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9/11: Civil Court Finds Against Arrested “Dancing Israelis”

“Dancing Israelis” Arrested On 9/11 Later Sued The Govt, But Lost Their Case

 

By Martin Hill – LibertyFight.com

 


Martin Hill will be my guest on Truth Jihad Radio next Monday, November 12. Listen live 3 to 5 pm Central on AmericanFreedomRadio.com. -KB

Remember the Israelis who were arrested by New Jersey Police on 9/11/01 as the attacks occurred? They were arrested, interrogated, held for 71 days and eventually all sent back to Israel under suspicous circumstances.

Many researchers have documented this as evidence of Israeli complicity in the attacks. But did you know that the Israelis later sued numerous government employees for civil rights violations? This is not widely known.

More Arrested Israelis…With Explosives? (Ed)


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There is a lot of information which outlines the initial stories of the “Dancing Israelis”, including WhatReallyHappened and KillTown. The website 911Myths, while defending the establishment’s story, also has a lot of good information on the case. LibertyFight.com disagrees with 911Myths conclusions and analysis but credits them with providing links to some information that many other sites do not have.

This article will give an update on the “Dancing Israeli” situation, with new information which hasn’t been reported by anyone previously, to our knowledge. What has not been reported at all, either in the mainstream media or alternative media, is the conclusion of their civil case. The Israelis federal civil rights lawsuit was tossed out of court!

The viral youtube video “History they don’t Teach you In school” covers a brief history of Israeli false-flag terrorism operations. There is an amusing backstory about this. The video, made by ZionCrimeFactory, was the video that spawned a call to police by a Texas Rabbi in 2010. Rice University Jewish Studies Professor Shira Lander called the police after a Houston man e-mailed her a link to ZCF’s youtube video.

The Rabbi had advertised a public lecture series entitled “The History of Anti-Semitism” with a flier that asked “Why did some blame Jews for 9/11?” and the man simply responded to her question via e-mail correspondence. After that story broke, Dr. Kevin Barret invited Rabbi Lander, his academic colleague, to engage in some “interfaith dialogue” on his radio show regarding the matter, but she didn’t accept the offer for some reason.

Nevertheless, ZCF’s video features numerous mainstream news reports of Israelis being arrested by police that day, including footage of an interview with the New Jersey cop, Scott DeCarlo, who arrested the dancing Israelis at gunpoint. We will recap a bit here regarding the “Dancing Israelis”:

5 men in a van owned by URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS were spotted by New Jersey residents following the 9/11 attacks dancing, laughing, posing for pictures, smiling and exchanging high-fives. A woman named Maria called the police. New Jersey police officer Scott DeCarlo told of how he had to arrest them at gunpoint after they failed to comply with his orders. History Commons has an excellent detailed account of events involving DeCarlo that day with news links.

Ten years after the attacks, in September 2011, AmericanFreePress later conducted an exclusive interview with DeCarlo, now a Sergeant, who told AFP that this will be his first and last statement on the matter: 9-11 Cop Breaks Silence

The actual police and FBI reports were declassified and released in 2011, and can be read in their entirety through the following links. (911Myths notes that they originally retrieved the 6 documents from scribd.com.):

CBS reported “A truckload of explosives” and CNN reported “a ton of explosives” in a van stopped “near the George Washington Bridge”, with three men arrested and in custody. Later, CNN ran a press conference with Mayor Rudolph Guliani and Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik in which Kerik denied that any exposives were found. All three news videos can be seen at the very bottom of this page.

An Irish news agency also ran the story ‘Three arrested with van full of explosives’ (see video above that debunks retraction..Ed) but later ran an update, ‘Police confirm arrests but deny explosives find’. There is contention about whether the van with reported explosives was the same van with the five Israelis. However, as we will discuss berlow, note that the Jewish publication reporting on the civil lawsuit on 9/14/04 ran the headline Israelis detained on George Washington Bridge on 9/11 sue Department of Justice.
The Owner of Urban Moving Systems, an Israeli citizen named Dominick Suter, left the country immediately following the arrests, and abandoned his business entirely:
State Granted Access to Moving Company’s Storage Facility

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
December 13, 2001
“NEWARK- The State Division of Consumer Affairs (“Consumer Affairs”) is asking all citizens who have goods stored at Urban Moving Systems’ Weehawken warehouse to immediately contact Consumer Affairs, Attorney General John J. Farmer, Jr., and New Jersey Division of Consumer Affairs Director Mark S. Herr announced today. The State on Wednesday obtained a court order giving inspectors from Consumer Affairs access to the facility allowing consumers access to retrieve their goods and belongings. The State, at the same time, filed a lawsuit in Hudson County Superior Court against Urban Moving Systems and its owner Dominick Suter alleging violations of both the State’s Consumer Fraud Act and regulations set forth in the Public Movers and Warehousing Licensing Act. According to the complaint, on or about September 14, 2001, Suter departed from the United States and left no one acting as an agent for Urban.”
On September 15, 2001, ‘The Record’ of Bergen County, NJ), reported FIVE HIJACK SUSPECTS HAD LINKS TO N.J.; ‘MATERIAL WITNESS IN CUSTODY IN N.Y.C.; THE INVESTIGATION, which read, in part. “An employee of Urban Moving Systems, who would not give his name, said the majority of his co-workers are Israelis and were joking on the day of the attacks. “I was in tears,” the man said. “These guys were joking and that bothered me. These guys were like, ‘Now America knows what we go through.”
ABC’s TV News Program 20/20 did an episode on the matter June 21, 2002,: “Five Israeli men arrested soon after 9/11 might have been working for Israeli intelligence, but likely did not know beforehand about the attacks”.

They also ran a news story titled The White Van. ABC’s 20/20 interviewed a former CIA chief for the segment:
“Vince Cannistraro is a former chief of operations for counter-terrorism with the Central Intelligence Agency. Now he’s a consultant with ABC News. He says many in the US intelligence community believe that some of the men arrested in the white van were in the US working for Israeli intelligence. They speculate that Urban Moving was being used by Israel as an intelligence front.”

I suggest reading the entire transcript of the 20/20 segment because it is very interesting and gives a lot of details. The five Israelis were eventually released after lengthy interrogations: “Sources tell 20/20, after high-level negotiations between Israeli and US government officials, a settlement was worked out.” ABC interviewed two of the Israelis, brothers Paul and Sivan Kurzberg. Paul is quoted as telling 20/20 “(Through translator) I went to work over there because, I don’t know, the situation here is not the best.” Sivan Kurzberg said “(Through translator) They took away two months of my life. During that time I was supposed to be on a trip that I had planned when I started my military service.”
20/20 transcript excerpt:

MILLER: (VO) This is Kurzberg’s younger brother, Sivan, who was one of the three men on top of the van that morning. Although Paul and Sivan would not talk with us about the incident, Sivan and two of the other detainees did go on an Israeli talk show after their return. Oded Ellner denied they were laughing or happy that today.
Mr. ODED ELLNER: (Through translator, from Israeli talk show) Nothing of the kind, the fact of the matter is, we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.”

The mens’ defense attorney Ram Horvitz, who was also interviewed by 20/20, denied all wrongdoing and denied the men were Mossad agents: “This story about the five boys being connected with Israeli intelligence is the most stupid and ridiculous story that I ever heard, and it is nonsense. I don’t know who invented this story.” Mark Regav, the spokesman for the Israeli embassy in Washington, also spoke with 20/20 and denied any Israeli intelligence connection to the five men, claiming “The story is simply false.”

Channel 4 in the UK later produced a documentary called “The 9/11 Conspiracies”. They interviewed Maria, the woman who initially called the police on the men, and also interviewed three of the Israelis. While the Israelis didn’t talk to 20/20 about the incident in June 2002, they did speak about it in the UK documentary. It is an excellent must-see segment and can be found towards the bottom of the page here.

In 2004, four of the Israelis, Paul Kurzberg, Silvan Kurzberg, Israelis Yaron Shmuel, and Omer Gavriel Marmari filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against Attorney General John Ashcroft and wardens of the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The four were represented by New York attorney Robert Joseph Tolchin and Israeli attorney Nitsana Darshan-Leitner. They claimed that their detention was illegal and that their civil rights were violated, suffering racial slurs, physical violence, religious discrimination, rough interrogations, deprivation of sleep, and many other offenses. The lawsuit also stated “As Israelis and as Jews, plaintiffs themselves are sworn enemies of al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden.”

Regarding the “dancing Israelis”, 911Myths.com notes “One curious footnote to this story appeared three years later, when four of the Israelis filed a lawsuit against the Department of Justice. We’ve not yet discovered what happened to the case, and the lack of information suggests it never reached court. Still, bringing the case at all is hardly what you’d expect if these really were Mossad agents somehow connected to 9/11. Surely three years on they’d want to keep their heads down, not re-open the whole affair?”

There are three archived news reports on the lawsuit from September 2004. The first is an Kokhaviv Publications IMRA Newsletter titled “Israelis detained on George Washington Bridge on 9/11 sue Department of Justice” dated September 14, 2004. The 2nd is an archive of a Jerusalem Post article titled Four Israelis sue Ashcroft dated September 14, 2004. The 3rd is from the Jewish news weekly of Northern California, titled Four Israelis sue Ashcroft, FBI director over 9/11 treatment dated Friday, September 17, 2004.

The Public can access Federal Court records by registering with a system called PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records) at pacer.gov. There is a fee for this service and a charge for each paid viewed. Sometimes, litigants or others may choose to post legal documents from civil cases for the public on other sources outside of the PACER system, on their own sites or websites such as leagle.com.
LibertyFight regularly reviews various legal filings and writes about interesting cases, such as the case involving the Oregon man who sued the police for falsely arresting him after he flipped them off (he won), the woman who was arrested for allegedly avoiding jury duty in Colorado, the lawyer from Los Angeles who beat her red light camera ticket, or the U.S. Department of Justice’s letter to the cops outlining the people’s right to film police.

In the case of the Israelis arrested on 9/11, some of the documents have been made public on leagle.com. The case is KURZBERG v. ASHCROFT 619 F.3d 176 (2010). The document is from the United States Court of Appeals, Second Circuit. The Docket No. of the case is 07-0542-cv. It was argued on November 17, 2009 and decided on August 30, 2010.

To put it plainly, the case was dismissed not because of any of the issues involved or merits of the case, but because the plaintiffs failed to serve the defendants properly as per the rules of the Federal Court. Because the plaintiffs sued Attorney General John Ashcroft along with many others working for the government, as the appeals court put it, “the plaintiffs were required to serve process on both the individual defendants and -because the individual defendants were sued for acts or omissions occurring in connection with their performance of their duties – the United States.”

Ashcroft early in the proceedings actually waived his right to be personally served, but the plaintiffs had to officially serve the U.S as well. As the court explained, “by its plain text, requires service both upon the individual defendant and upon the United States officially; one will not suffice for the other.” They actually gave the plaintiffs numerous chances to accomplish this, which was literally as simple as going down to any post office and mailing a certified letter! As the court further explained in their ruling,

“In order to serve process on the United States, the plaintiffs were required to deliver a copy of the complaint to the United States attorney for the district in which the action was brought and also send a copy of the summons and complaint by registered or certified mail to the Attorney General. Here, the plaintiffs failed to comply with Rule 4(i) because they did not effect service on the United States. The plaintiffs failed to do so despite receiving repeated reminders from the defendants that left the plaintiffs with sufficient time to complete service.”

The court also noted:

“The time period for completion of service extended under Rule 4(m) elapsed without the plaintiffs serving process on the United States through service on the Attorney General by registered or certified mail. They did, however, attempt to serve the United States three days before the time period expired by sending a copy of the summons and complaint by first-class mail to the mailing address for the Attorney General at the Department of Justice; the attempt was insufficient because it did not make use of registered or certified mail.

After the time period granted by the court had expired, several of the defendants, including Ashcroft, moved in the district court to dismiss the action on grounds of improper service of process, including failure to serve the United States through service on the Attorney General by registered or certified mail. The district court (John Gleeson, Judge) dismissed the case with respect to all of the defendants, including those who had not raised an improper service defense by pleading or motion. See Kurzberg v. Ashcroft, No. 04 Civ. 3950, 2006 WL 2738991, 2006 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 68680 (E.D.N.Y. Sept. 25, 2006)…

…CONCLUSION
“Serving process on the United States through service by registered or certified mail on the Attorney General might seem, from a practical standpoint, to be nothing more than a formality inasmuch as the Attorney General, who is charged with determining whether the United States will provide representation to individual defendants, was himself an individual defendant in this lawsuit. That does not, however, excuse noncompliance with the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. The district court did not err in so holding. For the foregoing reasons, we affirm the judgment of the district court.”

This seems like an unbelievable and absurd thing to happen when there are at least two professional lawyers handling the case for the plaintiffs. It might be understandable if a person was trying to wade through the courts and represent themself. Federal court rules can be very complicated and burdensome to the average person not versed in the legal system. Many times, cases are thrown out even when plaintiffs do have attorneys, such as in the case of when Jesse Ventura tried to sue the TSA or the ridiculous case of when Ron Paul tried to sue a youtube user (that case was rightly tossed out).

Many times, the court will dismiss a case based on what seems like a “technicality”, such as “standing”, “jurisdiction” “Venue”, failing to respond on time, etc. Fred Rodell, Law Professor at Yale University, wrote a classic essay in 1939 on the fraud and pig-latin type jibberish used by lawyers and judges. It’s titled WOE UNTO YOU, LAWYERS! and is an excellent, must-read treatise. (The phrase is from Luke 11:46:“But he said: Woe to you lawyers also, because you load men with burdens which they cannot bear and you yourselves touch not the packs with one of your fingers.”)

But for a team of international lawyers in a high profile case, to let the case be tossed out literally because they failed to serve the U.S. Attorney general properly? According to press reports at the time the case was first filed in 2004, the plaintiffs’ lawyer Nitsana Darshan-Leitner said:

“The infamous arrest of these young Israelis on 9/11 has been used by anti-Semites worldwide as ‘proof’ of Israel’s involvement in the World Trade Center attack. Our clients are seeking compensation for the harm they suffered in the MDC by prison officials. In addition, the law suit will serve as an important public forum to debunk the lie that Israel or the Mossad was behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It will show that there was no Jewish conspiracy as the Arab world continues to claim and put an end to this racist blood libel.”


If it were so important to have a public hearing and “debunk the lie that Israel or the Mossad was behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks”, why would the lawyers allow the lawsuit get tossed out for such an absurd and avoidable reason?! In 2004 when the suit was filed, many people across the U.S. and the world were researching and finding out the truth about 9/11. Could it be that the lawsuit was filed at a time to deflect attention away from Israeli complicity and paint them instead as the abused victims?
It was tossed out for not sending a certified letter. Do you know how simple it is to send a certified letter, with a return reciept? You can do it at any U.S. Post office for usually less than $5 bucks. Strange days indeed.
At the bottom of this page in the green section are some relevent excerpts from the Appeals Court’s 2010 ruling.

Martin Hill is a Catholic paleoconservative and civil rights advocate. His work has been featured on LewRockwell.com, WhatReallyHappened, Economic Policy Journal, Strike The Root, ZionCrimeFactory, FreedomsPhoenix, Rense, Infowars, PrisonPlanet, National Motorists Association, WorldNetDaily, The Orange County Register, KNBC4 Los Angeles, Los Angeles Catholic Lay Mission Newspaper, KFI 640, The Press Enterprise, Antiwar.com, IamtheWitness.com, BlackBoxVoting, and many others. Archives can be found at LibertyFight.com

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28 Comments for “9/11: Civil Court Finds Against Arrested “Dancing Israelis””

  1. The 5 “dancing israelis” were detained after residents complained they were celebrating the first plane strike.
    There was also a van with explosives in it, pulled over near the George Washington Bridge with two more Israelis in it.
    There was also a van with a mural of the attack , stopped on King street. Police transmissions say it exploded and the men were arrested after they tried to escape. This van was a diversion and the event was whitewashed with no mention of an explosion. There were also reports of truck bombs at the base of the towers. An anonymous caller told Police “Palestinians” were mixing junk and Heading for the Holland Tunnel.
    This, combined with False images of celebrating Palestinians shown on news networks was an attempt to not just blame Muslims for 9/11, but Palestinians specifically. The Israeli drivers first words out of his mouth when they were pulled over were “We are Israelis, we are not your problem, the Palestinians are the problem”. Because of the fine police work in catching all these suspects, I believe they had to forget about the whole Palestinian frame up job and not go with any truck bomb angle. Truck bombs combined with planes would have been a more credible excuse for the towers destruction, but instead they had to go with just planes (that’s just speculation of course)

  2. Howard T.Lewis III

    Leviticus 20:4-5 Israel’s boss is the same shack as the Skull and Bones Bush cabal and freemasons. The City of London and queen lizard. Find a better name for the overpaid brat than David Ickes has and I will change my view. Bush41’sskull and Bones name is ‘Molloch’. Homwework time.Then talk to the experts on whether Thermi(a)te can instantly vaporize steel 1/4of an inch thick.

    • Howard T.Lewis III

      At least two of ‘The Dancing Israelis have been reported to be back operating in the same turf in the past few years. Worth a Yahoo! search or two.

  3. Thanks Dr Barrett for posting this article of high content, related to the 9/11 tragedy and its consequences that costed millions of innocent people’s lives, thousands of young American soldiers’ lives, both women and men, gone or maimed for life, the destruction of dearly acquired infrastructure (Airports-roads-bridges-power plants-hospitals-schools-houses-Adm. buildings -museums with their artifacts stolen) with the stable social fabric of Iraq gone for ever.

    This is, not to mention the genetic-biologic disasters affecting all forms of local life, caused by the criminal use of mini nukes and amo made of depleted uranium, effects from which American soldiers did not escape either.

    The fact that the dancing Israelis managed to get out of jail, and OUT of the country, is by itself most disturbing, when one knows that an American mother can be jailed for protesting against the way a TSA controller is patting her teenage daughter… or her newborn baby…

    This means that any Israeli, even when committing a serious offense in the country, is ABOVE the LAW, has achieved a special status in the USA, not even given to the Brethren by Jehovah in Occupied Palestine or Khazaria…

    This ought to provoke an OUTRAGE among every US citizen, but it doesn’t, thanks to the HIJACKING of America by the shrewd and cunning Zion Talmudic Mafia. On top of that they have the nerve to sue, trying to see if they can get more Shekels out of the Dumb Goyim… who permit all this to happen.

  4. I imagine they were treated much better in custody than Shin Bet treats Palestinian prisoners.

  5. I would like to have seen them dancing if it had been at the end of a rope. Flanked on each side by nuttyyahoo and Barak.

  6. Charlotte NC Bill

    Not that I respect much the K of C or the Malta boys-every part of the Church has been corrupted…But corrupted so as to be complicit and controlled by the enemy…the Synagogue of satan, the illuminati bankers…the “masters of the universe” as they think of themselves…

  7. DANCING TERRORISTS should have been shot on the spot (execution style) next to their explosives just as they massacre innocents for fun: ****http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nDUFiuZLhc

  8. I believe suter was going to be questioned a few days after. I did, however, read somewhere that an El AL 747 was allowed to take off from JFK Airport about 4 in the afternoon on 9/11 itself, under DOD supervision. From what I understand, the Mayor Of Jerusalem was in New York on September 10th, and was back in Israel on September 12th; seems a little fishy to me. All the talk has been about the bin laden family being whisked away as soon as the air travel ban was lifted, but I find an Israeli plane being allowed to leave on 9/11 much more disturbing

    • Franklin Ryckaert

      Bin Laden was the patsy, but the Israelis were the perpetrators. Drawing attention on Bin Laden’s family flying out of the country but ignoring the Israelis, such as Michael Moore did in his film Fahrenheit 9/11 was part of the misdirection.

  9. How was Dominick Souter able to leave the country while no one else (except for the bin Laden family) was able to fly?

    Curious,
    Infidel

  10. On various sites I have seen pics of at least two seperate vans with murals of a plane and the Twin Towers painted on the side, one large and one small. There is mention of such a mural on a police radio transcript.

    The woman who rang the police about the ‘Dancing lsraeIis’ does not mention a mural in the interview.

  11. Brilliant work, by the Jesuits and Knights of Malta! Explosives in the vans were unrelated to the WTC demolition, which was done with micro-nukes. A false trail toward Mossad was laid, leaving out that nearly all of the non-Jewish perpetrators of 9/11 were Knights of Malta!

    • I’m sure all 7 of them were delighted.

    • itsafreeman

      The Knights of Malta painted the murals on the Mossad vans ???

      Or what ?

    • Charlotte NC Bill

      What’s with you “it’s really the Jesuits” people? The Jesuits control Mossad? The Jesuits planted the micro-nukes in the Towers? Not the “Urban Moving System people? The Jesuits profited fm Silverstein’s insurance fraud? Silverstein gave the Jesuits access to the complex-especially during the power-down the weekend before? Not his Mossad pals? Dov Zakheim of SPC fame..a Jesuit? There was no “false trail” pal..the evidence trail leads to Mossad, it’s agents and assets on the ground, bc they did it….Michael Hariri even bragged about it….so give it a rest..

      • maybe the Jesuits/Knights of Malta were working with the DVD, stringing along patsies like Chertoff and Zakheim to make it look like the Mossad were involved. if you look at the full transcript of the Israeli TV show, you’ll notice that the guy who said “we were there to record the event” was actually talking about a cocktail party which was held later on 9/11 by Silverstein and Guiliani and billed as a Jewish-Italian friendship evening – it was attended by a glittering list of Hollywood celebs all heavily disguised and sworn to secrecy. the fact that there is no video record of this gathering is explained by the wrongful arrest of the dancing Israelis who had been assigned to film it.

    • Howard T.Lewis III

      More apparently,the monarchies of Europe have lost 95% of their slaves since WWII and have been systematically gutting the U.S.and relaying money through offshore banks in British protectorates.Freemasons and Skull and Bones’ leader is the same, the queen of England, Elizabeth II, who STILL is a very powerful person and exercises grandiose treacheries on a regular basis(ie, NATO,NAFTAin Canada, etc.). The Knights of Malta have had a member as leader of the CIA since it began.This group is an established link between the Vatican and City of London,with a mutual objective of destroying the U.S.. Ask about what Abraham Lincoln thought.. He said the same thing long ago. John Wilkes Boothe was a freemason with a cabal.

  12. They sure as hell can lie, but can they really DANCE?

  13. Franklin Ryckaert

    There is an explanation for this “curious” behaviour. The whole thing is a PSY-OP intended to impress on the public mind the idea that these Israelis were indeed innocent otherwise they surely wouldn’t have gone to court. But because during such a process embarassing evidence might come forward implicating their guilt, they themselves sabotaged it by omitting a ridiculously simple procedure (sending a registered letter) which at least their lawyers must have known of. They always can say : “We tried to sue (and that proves our innocence) but due to some technicality it failed.” So there is no “chutzpah” involved as the first commenter says, it is a public relations ruse, a PSY-OP as I call it.

  14. I guess they didnt want to get into why one of them was spotted in the Doric tower the day before 9/11, and lied to two men in an elevator that he was a construction worker. Or why that same guy, who was a map maker in Israel, had maps of New York with the trade centre and the Doric tower highlighted. The Doric tower is, of course, where they were seen filming and celebrating the first plane strike; it gives a great view of the North side of the north tower which is where the first plane hit. And I guess they didnt want brought up how dogs reacted to their van as if it had explosives, all the passports they had, and the fact that CFI searches found two of them to be known Mossad agents. It’s all just anti semetic gibberish I guess.

  15. Wow the chutzpah of these mass murderers is something which would make satan proud, or blush, or both. Michael Chertoff went to New York City in 2001 & used federal legal power to secure the release of these “five dancing Israelis.”

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