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The Sandy Hook Massacre: Unanswered Questions
by Joe Quinn and Niall Bradley
“Truth wears no mask, bows at no human shrine, seeks neither place not applause, she only asks a hearing.” ~ Carl A. Wickland
When 20 children and 8 adults were murdered in the tiny Connecticut community of Sandy Hook we, like most other people, were shocked and horrified at what appeared to be a series of senseless acts of brutality. When a person experiences the tragic and untimely loss of a loved one, particularly in unusual or apparently inexplicable circumstances, the initial intense feelings of grief usually give way to a desire to understand HOW and WHY the tragedy occurred, in an effort to make sense of it and achieve some kind of ‘closure’. This is a very normal and natural human reaction. We have an innate need to understand the world around us and how things ‘work’. In our modern, technological world, most of what we understand about our world and how it works is provided to us by some authority or other. And most of us accept the conclusions of those authorities as being true. In some cases, those explanations are true.
In relation to the Sandy Hook massacre; while the HOW of the attack has been explained, as yet, there seem to be few authoritative answers as to WHY the massacre occurred. That is to say, WHY a lone gunman decided to walk into a school and murder 20 children and 6 adults. At this point, three weeks after the event, it seems that the world will ultimately have to accept the narrative that a lone, disturbed individual murdered those children because he was, well, disturbed. Specifically, it is claimed that Lanza had ‘Asperger’s Syndrome’, yet according to experts, people with this condition do not run a higher risk of killing others or themselves and indeed that they ‘rarely harm others‘. The ‘disturbed individual’ answer is, therefore, a rather unsatisfactory one, but it’s an answer nonetheless.
But here’s a question: What if the explanation provided by authorities about how something happened doesn’t make sense in any truly objective way? More to the point, what if you have reasonable cause to suspect that the official version of events may not be accurate? Logically, you’d think that the same desire to make sense of the tragedy and find closure would remain unsatisfied in such a case. But you’d be wrong to think so, because it seems that most people, particularly those affected most directly by a tragedy, will gratefully accept the first plausible official explanation that is offered to them, even if, as in the case of the Sandy Hook massacre, it doesn’t really explain WHY the tragedy occurred. The reason that most people react in this way is probably due to the same desire to find closure and ‘put it behind them’.
With that in mind, we’d like to state that our previous analyses of the Sandy Hook massacre were in no way motivated by any desire to ‘stir up some shit just for the sake of it’ (as several individuals suggested). Our motivation was, rather, to satisfy our desire to find a more satisfactory explanation of HOW and WHY the massacre occurred, a desire that really resulted from our inability to simply ignore the outstanding inconsistencies in the official story.
But first however, we’d like to draw your attention to some of the more outrageous and false claims being made about the Sandy Hook massacre.
Third Party ‘Actors’ and Conspiracy Nut-jobs
An alarming number of alternative ‘voices’ on Sandy Hook appear to have been taken in by (or are consciously spreading) suggestions that some or all of the child victims’ parents or school teachers are ‘hired actors’ and that the reason there have been no images of corpses in the press is because there were no corpses, suggesting, somewhat hysterically, that the whole event was staged and never actually took place. As far as we are concerned, this is a ridiculous contention with no basis in fact. Under severe emotional stress, ordinary people can and do react in what may seem to be strange ways. It is not uncommon, for example, for people under emotional stress that would normally cause them to break down into a blubbering mess, to burst out laughing. The commonly-used term ‘if you don’t laugh you’ll cry’ indicates a widespread understanding that human emotions are often oxymoronic in nature. Why certain internet media pundits have been unable to arrive at this logical conclusion is a mystery.
As for the lack of pictures of corpses; the reason for that should be self-evident and we find no reason to view it as evidence of any conspiracy.
The below photo of the black Honda civic that belonged to Adam Lanza’s mother has the registration number “872 YEO”:
Many internet pundits with impaired common sense have voiced suspicions regarding the vehicle’s ownership because of a segment of the emergency responders’ radio feed from that morning. At 30 minutes, 15 seconds in this supposedly “full-length” version we hear someone, presumably an officer on the scene, read out vehicle registration plates (“872 YEO”). This is followed soon afterwards, at 30 minutes, 50 seconds, by the name “RODIA, CHRISTOPHER A.”, followed by a date of birth of “August 6, ’69″ from another officer with a deep voice.
This has been presented as evidence that the car did not belong to Nancy Lanza but someone named Christopher Rodia.
But if you listen to the full audio stream from the original source at RadioReference.com, which includes all police transmissions on that morning from the entire Fairfield county, you realise that the stream includes police radio transmissions from police officers involved in the Sandy Hook shooting AND transmissions from other officers involved in traffic stops etc.
In the *real* full version of the transmissions, you hear a unit “272″ giving the 872 YEO license number to a dispatcher, and saying “possible suspect vehicle”. This is a reference to the car Lanza allegedly drove to the school and is obviously from an officer involved in the Sandy Hook shooting response.
About 20 seconds later an officer with a deep voice says “53 Edward, run the operator, he’s a Florida license and Connecticut as well. Last name is Rodia R-O-D-I-A, Christopher… August 6, 1969…” But about 5 minutes before this, this same officer with a deep voice is heard to say “33 headquarters, motor vehicle stop”. The obvious conclusion being that these were two intermingled streams that someone, without an ounce of discernment (like noticing the difference between two voices), decided was evidence that Nancy Lanza’s car belonged to someone else.
Throughout the audio other traffic stops with references to car makes and models can also be heard. There is therefore no reason to believe that the segment about Rodia is anything other than a traffic stop.
As it turns out, there is a Christopher Rodia in Connecticut, one who was arrested in July 2012 in connection with stealing copper piping. More to the point, we have personally seen publicly available tax records which show that Rodia owns a totally different car.
Many people have also speculated on the supposedly bizarre response made by Connecticut state police Lieutenant Vance to a question from a reporter:
To someone with a pre-formed belief that the Sandy Hook shooting involved some kind of conspiracy, the fact that Lt. Vance appears to stall for several seconds and then give an entirely irrelevant answer to the question about Lanza’s mother and her connection to the school, might seem like evidence of a conspiracy. The truth of the matter however, if you listen closely, is that Vance’s ‘stalling’ is due to the fact that he is listening to the question of another reporter. He then answers that question. At press conferences reporters from all angles shout simultaneous questions to the speaker. Lt. Vance is probably fairly well experienced at answering questions from the press and in this video does what most speakers do: point to one reporter and focus on him/her and listen to their question to the exclusion of others. The reason that the voice of the reporter asking the question can be heard above all others is probably because he is standing right beside the camera that is filming. In short, this video is evidence of nothing in particular.
These are just a few examples of the kind of blatant nonsense certain individuals have been spreading about the Sandy Hook massacre. The fact that so much obvious disinformation has been spread about this tragedy, not least by the mainstream media, does not however mean that we should ‘throw the baby out with the bath-water’. In fact, as we shall see, the very fact that the mainstream media got the details of the shooting so completely and repeatedly wrong brings up some interesting questions.
Having looked closely at as much of the details of the shooting as possible, we believe that there is sufficient evidence, (primarily in the form of unanswered questions) to suspect that the full truth about the Sandy Hook massacre may not have been told and that a full public inquiry is therefore warranted. There are those who would say that the ‘security’ forces and agencies that are investigating this matter are under no obligation to reveal any further information to the public, but we beg to differ. The public have been repeatedly encouraged (directly and indirectly) to reflect on the massacre and consider its implications. But any public reflection on this event without the full facts will be a futile exercise. Everyone touched by this brutal event at the very least deserves to be informed of the plain facts of the case.
Adam Lanza in Altercation at SH School on December 13th?
Initial media reports stated that Adam Lanza had been at the school the day before the shooting and was involved in an “altercation” with staff – three of whom were killed the next day.
That claim has since been retracted, with the CT state police stating that they did not know of any reports about any altercations at the school, but there has been no mention of who initially made the claim to the media and on what basis. If the police have this information, they have a duty to make it publicly available.
Guns
The official story is that, for some unknown reason, Adam Lanza, a 20 year old ‘nerd’ with Asperger’s Syndrome walked into the Sandy Hook Elementary School and, in a matter of 3-4 minutes, killed 26 staff and students and then killed himself. He did this, we are told, with two handguns and a AR 15 ‘Bushmaster’ semi-automatic ‘assault rifle’. There has however still been no definitive statement about the number and type of weapons that Lanza allegedly brought with him to the school. Police radio communications at the time include reference to a shotgun, for example, and one of the teachers in the school reported that the first shots she heard sounded like shot gun blasts. The official story however does not include any mention of a shotgun in the school.
What police sources have said is that a “mind numbing” quantity of spent cartridges littered the floor of the school. Eyewitnesses reported hearing “hundreds of shots” fired. The shell casings on the school floor were reportedly from a .233 Bushmaster rifle. The mainstream media reported that the Bushmaster rifle had been “found in the trunk of a car” on the morning of the shooting after police arrived at the scene. This was later changed to the rifle being found near Lanza’s body in the school. A separate ‘long gun’ appears to have been found in the trunk of the same car later in the evening (after dark).
Here is an image of the car allegedly used by Lanza to drive to the school. In this image, it has already been roped off:
The next video shows what we are told is another long gun being discovered in the trunk of Lanza’s car sometime in the evening of December 14th at the school:
Based on this screen capture from the video, the best match for the gun found in the trunk of the car seems to be a Saiga shotgun with an ATI stock:
The problem here is not that there is any clear-cut evidence of conspiracy, but rather that the mainstream media was reporting facts just a few hours after the shooting that would only be officially discovered many hours later by police. Specifically, that a gun was found in the trunk of the Honda Civic Lanza allegedly drove to the school. Our question therefore is: who told the media that a long gun (of any description) was found in the trunk of the car on the morning of the shooting when it seems that the car trunk was only investigated after dark?
The closest we can get to understanding why the mainstream media was peddling a large amount of inaccurate information about Sandy Hook massacre seems to be the following comment by Paul Farhi of the Washington Post:
An Associated Press spokesman, Paul Colford, said the news service got bad information from sources “we had no reason to disbelieve.” He added, “We were confident in our sources, and our sources were wrong.”
But that doesn’t really explain the apparent foreknowledge, so it would be helpful if police authorities investigating the case would attempt to identify these “sources”.
Adam Lanza’s Mother
Many initial media reports stated that Lanza’s mother was a teacher at Sandy Hook School. This claim appears to have been part of a broader story about why Adam Lanza chose to attack Sandy Hook school. The theory was that he was angry at the attention the school children were getting from his mother. These reports were repeated throughout the day by several news agencies until it became clear that Lanza’s mother was not a teacher and had no connection to the school. The WSJ reported:
“former school board official in Newtown called into question earlier reports that Nancy Lanza had been connected to Sandy Hook Elementary School, possibly as part of the teaching staff. “No one has heard of her,” said Lillian Bittman, who served on the local school board until 2011. “Teachers don’t know her.”
Despite this, the following video report cites the Sandy Hook school nurse as stating that she knew Nancy Lanza well and that she was indeed a “very experienced” kindergarten teacher.
Of course, the school nurse could have known Nancy Lanza privately, but again, it would be helpful if police authorities could clear up the question of whether or not Nancy Lanza was a teacher and if she ever had any connection with Sandy Hook school, because, as noted by W. Joseph Campbell, a communications studies professor at American University:
[The idea that Nancy Lanza was killed with her students] “is a narrative that does hang together and explains the story in ways the real story doesn’t. It’s hard for us to accept the idea that something so horrible was completely random. The idea that she had little or no connection to the school makes it harder to wrap your mind around such a horrific and senseless act.”
Lauren Rousseau’s Car
The mainstream media also reported on the fact that several of the cars in front of the school were ‘riddled’ with bullet holes. Here’s an image of the scene sometime in the afternoon of December 14th. You can see the Lanza car at the top of the image surrounded by yellow tape.
Below is a zoomed-in image of other cars that were also taped off:
The following video provides evidence that the green Honda owned by Lauren Rousseau was hit by bullets, so it is possible that the other taped-off cars were also hit. Lauren Rousseau, incidentally, was one of the school’s teachers, shot dead along with nearly all her pupils in their classroom.
It would be helpful if authorities could explain how Lauren Rousseau’s car was hit with bullets and if any of the other cars were also hit.
Lanza the Sharp-Shooter
The official story states that Adam Lanza shot his way through the entrance to SH Elementary school where he encountered the principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach, both of whom he shot ‘execution style’. Lanza then entered a classroom and shot dead 15 of a total of 16 children (the 16th survived by playing dead as she lay beneath the bodies of her classmates), their teacher Lauren Rousseau and a special-needs teacher, Ann-Marie Murphy. He then left that classroom and entered the classroom of teacher Victoria Leigh Soto and demanded to know where the children where. When Soto said they were in the auditorium, Lanza shot her, another special-needs teacher, Rachel D’Avino, and four of their students, who emerged from the cupboard in which they were hiding. Lanza then left that room and entered the office of school nurse Sarah Cox, who was hiding under her desk, only to leave again a few moments later. He then went to the classroom of music teacher Maryrose Kristopik and pounded on the door, yelling “Let me in”. Based on police audio transmissions (see below), Lanza did all of that in about 3 minutes. On seeing local police arrive, he shot himself in the head. End of story.
It would be helpful therefore if authorities could explain precisely how Lanza was able to achieve all of this in such a short period of time. It would also be helpful to hear their explanation of how someone who, according to official reports, had not engaged in any gun training prior the attack, could have achieved such proficiency and deadly accuracy with an assault rifle.
Second Shooter?
In the immediate aftermath of the massacre, many mainstream media outlets reported that there may have been a second shooter. Several of these reports made it clear that, at the time, this was a distinct possibility.
For example, the Washington Post quoted an AP report that “a law enforcement official in Washington said that the suspect was Ryan Lanza, that his younger brother was being held for questioning as a possible second shooter and that their mother taught at the school.”
ABC News stated authoritatively that “the massacre involved two gunmen”.
[...] The massacre involved two gunmen and prompted the town of Newtown to lock down all its schools and draw SWAT teams to the school, authorities said today.
One shooter is dead and a manhunt is on for a second gunman. Police are searching cars. One shooter was described as a 24-year-old armed man with four weapons and wearing a bullet-proof vest, sources told ABC News.
The ABC News report about a manhunt underway for the second gunman
While it is the responsibility of police authorities to tell the public who exactly provided this information about a possible second gunman, it seems reasonable for us to conclude that there was good cause for the police to believe that Lanza was not alone. Indeed, police audio transmissions at the time suggest this to be the case.
Lanza is alleged to have entered the school at about 9.35am. As soon as the first shots were fired, a teacher and the school nurse phoned the police. The first reference on police audio transmissions that day record an officer saying:
“Sandy Hook school, caller is indicating she thinks there is someone shooting in the building”.
2 minutes, 30 seconds later, the same police officer says:
“the shooting appears to have stopped, it is silent at this time, the school is in lock-down.”
45 seconds after that the same police officer says:
“I have reports that the teacher saw two shadows running past the building, past the gym which would be rear….. rear shooting.”
5-10 seconds later, another officer says:
“yeah we got ‘em, they’re coming at me down [inaudible] …. coming up the drive the left side”
1 minute, 45 seconds later, the same officer says:
“[inaudible] I’ve got a party on the [inaudible] I’ve got him proned out.“
5 minutes later an officer makes a reference to “the school” and “the party in custody” and “we’ll continue checking”.
What we can reasonably conclude from these audio transmission is that local police were on the scene very quickly, and that the shooting inside the school lasted little more than 3 minutes. We can also tentatively conclude that there were other ‘persons of interest’ involved and that police may have apprehended one of them.
Looking at an overhead image of the school, we see that the gymnasium is on the right of the building. The reference made by the officer quoting the teacher who saw “two shadows running past the gym” would suggest that two people were running towards the rear of the building past the gym, either before, or just as, police arrived on the scene.
In the following video we see police officers running along the back of building and then up the hill among the trees where, it was initially claimed by media reports, they had apprehended someone, although it is impossible to see much detail through the trees.
In this next video, we see police officers surrounding a house with guns drawn.
The house in question is located just behind Sandy Hook school and directly below the area where the police appear to chase someone into the woods. The house is circled in red in the image below, and the area where the police allegedly arrested someone is circled in yellow.
So that you can confirm that this is the house the police officers appear to be investigating in the video above, here is a screen shot of the house from Google Street View. The address is 6, Riverside Road, Newtown, CT.
Our questions relating to this information are:
- Did police on the scene have any reason to suspect more than one shooter. If so, why?
- Were the police chasing two other people in connection with the shooting?
- Was one person captured and “proned out” by one officer and did other officers chase another individual into the woods behind the school?
- Were police officers particularly interested in the house at 6, Riverside Road, Newtown, just behind the school and in the direction that the officers appear to have been chasing someone? Or was this just one of several houses/buildings that were checked in this way? If so, what reason was there to engage in such a search, if the details of the crime scene were largely self-evident: that a lone gunman had entered the school and shot 20 children and 6 teachers and then himself within a period of five minutes?
These are legitimate questions that authorities dealing with the investigation have a responsibility to the public to answer.
Precedents – The Sandy Hook Massacre in Context
The Sandy Hook massacre is one of many such mass shootings in the USA over the course of the last 20 years. The most notable of these shootings all have one thing in common: the official story claimed a ‘lone gunman’ was involved, yet eyewitnesses reported at least one other shooter.
Aurora Theater Shooting – July 20th 2012
Eyewitness reports from the Aurora, Colorado theater shooting describe a man seated in the front row of Theater 9 taking a phone call, getting up to open an emergency exit, then waiting for someone else into the theater. The police radio feed from that day indicates that, an hour after arriving on the scene, police were still pursuing at least one other suspect, while an officer can be heard to say, “Sounds like it was a coordinated attack.” The ‘lone gunman’, 24-year-old James Holmes, was arrested by police 1-2 minutes after the first 911 call was made because he was found – “totally out of his mind” according to the arresting officer – either inside or next to his car (this has not been clarified), which was parked next to the emergency exit of Theater 9. Holmes was reportedly wearing a gas mask and was equipped with ‘gas cannisters and ballistic gear’; and yet a second gas mask and ‘duffel bag with gas cannisters and ballistic gear’ were found hundreds of feet away from his vehicle at the other end of the parking lot.
Sikh Temple Shooting – August 2012
7 people were murdered two weeks after the Aurora theater shooting, on 5th August 2012, when a ‘lone gunman’ opened fire during worship at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Again we would like to know how eyewitness reports of a “very well coordinated” attack conducted by “four white males dressed in all-dark clothing can be reconciled with the official account of a solitary ‘white supremacist’ and “former US Army psychological operations specialist” being shot dead by police who responded to the 911 call.
Fort Hood Shooting – November 5th 2009
A ‘lone gunman’ is said to have shot dead 13 soldiers and wounded 31 more (including support staff) at Fort Hood US Army base in Texas. The perpetrator was identified as US Army Major and psychologist, Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim of Palestinian descent. To this day there has been no explanation for the initial reports describing up to three shooters in two separate locations on the world’s largest military base. Listen as US Army Sgt. Major Jamie Posten stresses to the media that he is only willing to divulge that which he knows for sure:
Another senior officer described to CNN the arrest of a second Fort Hood shooting suspect at a golf course 2.5 miles from the base:
What happened to this suspect?
Virginia Tech Massacre – April 16th 2007
‘Lone gunman’ Seung-Hui Cho is said to have shot dead thirty-three people (five faculty members and 27 students before shooting himself in the head) in a massacre on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia. Cho was a South Korean citizen with U.S. permanent resident status and an undergraduate at the institute. The massacre was the bloodiest school shooting in the country’s history. All of the victims were shot at least three times each; of the 30 killed, 28 were shot in the head. The official record of the event affirms that Cho acted alone, yet, on the day, police reported that they were “hunting for a possible second shooter”.
The testimonies of US military personnel, police officers and people who actually witnessed these shootings describing second (or more) gunmen or suspects being involved cannot simply be dismissed without being acknowledged and taken fully into account.
Ask yourself, what possible reason would there be for eyewitnesses or police officers to report more than one shooter if there was ‘absolutely no evidence’ of more than one shooter?
Three quarters of Americans believe there was more than one gunman involved in the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. This means that they do not believe the lone gunman narrative and implicitly acknowledge that a conspiracy took place, a conspiracy that, by definition, involves forces and a power that extends above and beyond the office of the U.S. president, supposedly the highest in the nation (and some would say the world).
If we reflect on it for a moment, we see that the end result of mass shootings like Sandy Hook serves to instill a generalized sense of fear in the American population and a concomitant tendency to look to authority for protection. Consider this video that the Alabama Dept. of Homeland Security produced in direct response to the Sandy Hook massacre. The director of the Alabama Dept. of Homeland Security wants to encourage people to “run, hide, fight”. The video begins with the words:
“It may feel like just another day at the office, but occasionally, life feels more like an action movie than reality. The authorities are working hard to protect you and protect our public spaces. But sometimes bad people do bad things. Their motivations are different, the warning signs may vary, but the devastating effects are the same. And unfortunately you need to be prepared for the worst …”
Gun Control?
The Sandy Hook school massacre was not a covert attempt to take away Americans’ ‘right to bear arms’ as defined in the 2nd amendment of the US constitution. Every time that a shooting of this nature takes place, the sale of guns across the USA increases dramatically. There is no evidence that the US government is planning to use the Sandy Hook massacre to justify an attempt to ban the private ownership of guns in the USA. Sure they’re talking about it, but talkin’ aint doin’. In any case, it would be almost impossible to enforce any such laws. The USA does indeed have a gun crime problem compared to other nations, so the root problem obviously isn’t the guns themselves but the people who use them. Why then are there so many people in the USA that use their guns against fellow Americans?
The answer most likely lies in the nature of American culture and society. There is a vast underclass in the USA that has, for many decades, been economically marginalised and abandoned by an increasingly ‘broken’ eduction system that turfs many of them out onto the street at 16 years of age, barely able to read or write and with job prospects somewhere between minimum wage and unemployed. At the same time, these people are encouraged by a relentless media and corporate campaigns to ‘consume’ and have the best of everything the American capitalist dream can offer. It’s not hard to see how many of these disenfranchised might turn to crime (which in the US often means gun crime because of the easy access and ‘right’ to guns) in an effort to secure their piece of the pie.
The knock-on effect of gun crime (and the media reporting of such crimes) for members of the more privileged middle class (particularly those in large cities) is a palpable sense of insecurity. Exacerbating this feeling is the obnoxious amount of violence displayed on American TV and Hollywood-produced movies. By age 18, the average American child will have seen 16,000 murders and 200,000 acts of violence on TV or in movies, and most of this violence is depicted as taking place on American streets. Such programming simply reinforces the perception that the streets of the USA are not safe; the human subconscious does not really distinguish between real and simulated violence.
This feeling of a pervasive yet vague and unnamed threat probably plays a significant role when it comes to average American citizens deciding whether or not to buy a gun. More importantly, people who sense that the society in which they live is not safe will be much more likely to accept the increasing militarization of their society and the forces of law and order and, ultimately, the destruction of their civil liberties because it is all being done ‘for their own protection’.
Indiscriminate and ‘inexplicable’ massacres like Sandy Hook (and dozens of others) are the ‘icing on the cake’ in this process – horrific mass killings that unhinge people even further into the downward spiral of violence; it is up to each to decide for him or herself whether or not that may be by design.
This article was first published on SOTT.net on January 7, 2013.
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We can now provethat the entire CT State emergency communications system was ‘hijacked’ and ‘unplugged’ on December 14th., 2012, per an elaborate frequency change plan implemented merely 5 hours in advance on that morning, effectively supplanting and replacing normal police and EMS with FEMA / DHS ‘shadow’ command center personnel.
All of this was a staged, canned, very treasonous HOAX run by the highest levels of Connecticut STATE PATROL, and FEMA and DHS who had total oversight over all of this in the nation on December 14th. 2012.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/30/the-nexus-of-tyranny-the-strategy-behind-tucson-aurora-and-sandy-hook/
Scroll 1/2way down the page to “CT State Emergency System Hijacked” heading.
I ran across a link at Jeff Rense to someone calling the Glen Beck show. He says he’s the father of one of the pupils there who wasn’t killed but he was a responder. He says he was there to bake gingerbread cookies. I don’t know if its the same guy they detained.
Now, understanding all the cautions and warnings in the above article, I’m going to make a few observations here. I know, that’s how we loony conspiracy theorists are, but, I can’t help myself, I’m loony, remember? First, the guy was very convincing. Hell, he may be the “real deal” (but I don’t think so), I’ll tell you why:
Early he gives a little rant about conspiracy theorists (sorta like our authors here, only worse).
Then he goes to great pains to explain he’s a volunteer FIREMAN. For you other nutters out there who know something about mind control, you may recognize the “trigger words”; fireman = HERO!
Later he mentions he’s a CUB SCOUT LEADER and after the event they all went down there IN UNIFORM. Two “trigger words” this time: “Cub Scouts and UNIFORM”. Who would DARE question this guy? The very IDEA!
He says he didn’t see any bodies but the cops did. He said they were “wise” to keep them out (for their own good). He knows people died because he attended the funerals. He delivered quite a rant about questioning the rendition of the events and mentioned how hard this was because of the difficulty of the investigation. He painted quite a picture verbally.
Now, the reason I’m suspicious isn’t that he doesn’t like people questioning this or The 9-11 Movie. It was simply too slick. The fact that people get all weepy at the mention of fireman or police or boy scouts bothers me. There is no logical reason to believe that their veracity is superior to anyone else. He was also “out of town on business” which is quite convenient in case Beck wanted to interview his son or wife. He also said that a 6-year-old saw the whole thing and survived and related everything she saw to him but he isn’t allowed to discuss it?
So, all I get from this is a desire to silence anyone who questions the account. Nothing new is added in the way of “proof”. Lots of subliminal nonsense designed to shame people into acceptance and anger them against any “non-believers” (evil doers?) who DARE to ask questions about anything their rulers wish them to believe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnoMKzX7Tdc&feature=endscreen
You may see this differently. That’s fine.
Also, there was one perp who was scheduled to appear in court the morning of the shooting which was, of course, delayed.
Has anyone else looked at the court dockets. In November and December 2012, at least two major distributors and PRODUCERS of child pornography were arrested in Newtown. Looking at some of the pleadings, unfortunately, some of the children involved would now be approximately 6-7 years old (the ages of the victims). Anyone think there could be a correlation?
Gentlemen, perhaps I’m being naïve, but why are there no ballistics reports for any of these occurences ? I remember a time when any “newsworthy” shooting was being reported by the press we were flooded with calibres and “bullet-case-weapon” comparisons. There must be a lot of .223 spitzer bullets be to dug out of the walls etc., if that was the weapon used. Are not registered handguns required to leave a fired slug and spent case at the time of registering, or is that just in some states? Of course that data would be easy to manipulate, but even so, no mention has been made of it.
As an aside, if it were a false flag operation, and I believe it was, it all seems to be so haphazard that it crossed my mind that maybe the general population is being goaded to provoke a violent reaction, enabling the authorities to install martial law and take total control. In which case it doesn’t appear to be working !
Ballistic reports? Hey,if they can spirit the “bodies” away in the middle of the night in “a refrigerated van” to the basement of the looney bin with no one going to the hospital right after the event and expect us to believe that why would they bother with “trivia”. Proof is a meal best served “hot”. By now they could prepare a scene to make us believe they were attacked by Mongol hordes.
Of course the story line (if you discount the authorities who wrote this article) would like you to believe the rounds were all .223 “assault rifle” ammo. Maybe they were, who knows (that’s the whole point). It wasn’t a “false flag” it was a “media hoax”. That doesn’t mean anybody wasn’t killed. What it means is that they are conditioning people to be capable of writing articles like the one above.
Blind acceptance of the “official story” is to be the rule. Sure, the gun grab is convenient and they will always use anything at their disposal to disarm their adversaries. But the real “psyop” part is precisely what we are being counseled against right here. The lesson is “even in the most horrendous of circumstances, WE make reality”. “You have no right to question us”. I think that’s pretty obvious.
All of your questions are easily answered. Why aren’t they? Instead they are calling people names. “you’re either with us or…….”. It’s conditioning.
I think for anyone old enough to have experienced life before the 9-11 Movie, its safe to say that this standard of reportage would not have worked. The marshall law is probably coming but it may be unnecessary based on the fact that the sheep (Hseep?), seem incapable of outrage. I actually think this talk of “zombie apocalypse” is an insider joke describing “The Eaters”. This is working better than even they planned.
Hey, if you’re not careful they’ll call you a “conspiracy theorist” or an “anti-semite”, ooooh! You wouldn’t want that to show up in your file now, would you?
Funny how the Social security death index shows Adma Lanza dying December 13, the day before….
Here is the link to a discussion about it at the “lets roll forum”
http://letsrollforums.com/adam-lanza-died-day-t29005.html?t=29005
Jesse Ventura says you are imagining this. What I am asking….is why someone would do something so stupid.
Heard you reiterating some of your latest VT gun-grab rant on Short End of the Stick today.
Jesse Ventura says you are imagining gun confiscation couldn’t happen here-
@1:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxNenz7q_eY
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/24/enemies-scamming-america-on-gun-confiscation/
Last week he said the opposite.
He needs to decide.
The site I saw wasn’t the SSDI. It was some other “heredity” thing. I tried to see where they get their information from but no luck. It also had New Hampshire as the place of death.
Yeah, NH. is the registry sited because both of them signed up for SS in NH. The Lanzas were originally from NH.
In other words, it does not indicate the state where the death took place, but rather the state where the deceased registered under Social Security.
The date however speaks volumes. It also falls in line with Jim Fetzer’s theory.
The SSDI instrument also qualifies the fact as “proven” in the bottom entry.
I initially assumed that the perps ran into a SNAFU and couldn’t circumvent the requirement of the necessity of veracity within the SS records system. Later I heard reports of this index being at times in error of the correct date.
It would be enlightening to know exactly how the SSDI came by this information.
Thanks for the information. I wasn’t aware of any of that. At this point I’m just watching it. I know that SSA has been known to make errors. Still, it would be interesting to know on what date the information was reported, etc..
I wasn’t aware that they recorded “place of death” as the state in which you held a card. That seems strange. People move. My relatives were listed at the place they died, not at the place they first received cards.
I also don’t know what criteria is required to be “proven”. A death certificate? Is that “frozen” too?
The listed the age down to the day. Of course, if they had bad information that would follow.
One thing of note, my “guess” is that they use the death certificate. If that was issued in a big hurry in a case like this it is pretty suspicious in its own right. There has to be a cause of death.
I’m not saying it didn’t happen as described, there’s just nothing to base that on other than “belief”. We don’t know (if it even happened as described) if gun fire was exchanged. Was the fatal bullet traced to the gun he carried, etc..? There have been a raft of these suspicious pronouncements in the past. It shouldn’t be too surprising that people are skeptical. Don’t they convene a court of inquiry on things like this? Doesn’t the judge pronounce on guilt or innocence? Since day one they’ve been spewing certain details fully-formed that couldn’t possibly be proven without an investigation and findings. The reluctance to produce evidence either means that it isn’t as described or they are pushing for acceptance of the official line as normative (or both).
Oh no, another “convenient” error, like all those fund-raising websites being set up before the “fact”.
“Early in the morning and late one night,
Two dead boys began to fight…….”
False leads. In right in the play book. You know they “train” these mutts. Of course, you can explain it to ‘em but you can’t UNDERSTAND it for ‘em. Somebody is “cook booking” their way through the operation and got to the “false lead” chapter.
It plays nicely with the cars and the guns and the bodies, etc. ad infinitum. This is Stage II of the drill. The part where they evaluate how far they can push bogus information.
This article is annoying and illogical. First there is the sort of pandering the MSM that implies some duty to believe them as a default and that anyone who questions them is obviously a loony conspiracy theorist. Then it goes on to provide some possible explanations for “misconceptions” on the part of questioners as though all this is “common knowledge” and has been proven beyond a doubt. If there are any “inconsistencies” left it is purely the result of “sloppy reporting” not an organized attempt at spreading disinformation. I’m sorry, I’m methane intolerant and this makes my nose itch.
The article then goes on to describe a series of shootings where it is obvious that a cover up is in play. I guess those are merely “sloppy reporting” as well. And, last but not least, there is no intent to use this as a ploy to attack the Second Amendment. Wah?
At first I thought it was satire. They think there might be a teensy-weesy reason for a better explanation? They don’t think actors were used? They know that is Nancy Lanza’s Honda? The police KNOW Adam shot his mother? How?
I’m really not so interested in the “why”, I’m more interested in the “how” and suspicious of the ‘why’ I’m supposed to believe a contrived load of manure like this. I would love to be able to say “I always believe the media because they never lie to us” but, alas, I can’t. Does it take something bigger than sky scrapers being demolished to convince some people that things are not as they are told? Does this story have “the ring of truth”?
Yeah, there’s a LOT of explaining to do. The list is virtually endless. How did these “sloppy journalists (ha!)” get these bits of information in the first place? Who made himself the “self-appointed” minister of truth and said that THEY would decide what was suitable for print? Joe Friday would have been proud of the Connecticut authorities. These guys are FAST! To heck with “48 hours”, they arrive, and the story sprints fully-formed within minutes. Of course it has a rather high “trust factor” associated with it. Sort of like those Vegas acts where they pull a quarter from your ear.
I’m still trying to understand how this story begins with a dismissal of reasonable suspicions and ends with a shopping list of obviously unanswered questions from past events. Why, in the writer’s minds, are those “legitimate” and the others “silly”? Did I miss something with the car? It isn’t Chris Rodia’s so, it’s Nancy’s? Well there ya’ go.
Not a tear or any sign of angst and that’s just “normal” behavior. I guess their selling of the anti-gun agenda is just another understandable sign of distress as well. Well, what do I know? What I do know is that I don’t feel any more enlightened for having read this. I think they must be “coincidence theorists”. Nothing ever happens on purpose. “Nothing to see here, move along”.
Why Stephan, you may be right! Let me go to “Wellaware(whatever)” and check that out. I thought I saw Prager too. He was worshipping a statue of Lt. Vance….
Impressive, in the heat of battle he worries about the extra “o”
Hey Bozo, the zionists have already proven themselves capable of all kinds of heinous crimes….. LIKE 9/11, REMEMBER?
If you’re to dumb to understand that a WELL REGULATED MILITIA is the only thing standing between US and absolute tyranny, that’s the GOOD scenario. The other one is that you’re one of THEM.
meant “too dumb”
“An alarming number of alternative ‘voices’ on Sandy Hook appear to have been taken in by suggestions that some or all of the child victims’ parents or school teachers are ‘hired actors’ and that the reason there have been no images of corpses in the press is because there were no corpses…”
Hard to believe that this article is from the same author who posted: “Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control” on December 20th.
To reiterate some salient comments from the FB section above:
1. NOT ONE hysterical parent, filmed, reported, iphone’d, etc. in the hour and hours after the ‘shooting’.
2. NOT ONE tear. No ‘water’ from the eyes of ANYONE connected with this ‘real’ event.
3. NOT ONE bloody little body taken to an ambulance TO A HOSPITAL/CORONER in the first minutes/hours of the ‘event’…are we to believe that EVERYONE that was shot breathed their dying breathe before first responders got to the scene?
etc, etc, etc….
Look again at Robbie Parker getting ‘into character’ in his video and notice the suspicious photo-op with Obama after the murder: ****http://www.henrymakow.com/is-this-deceased-emilie-parker.html
Or Gene Rosen’s creepy interview. And what about his connections to Freemasonry? Or Noah Pozner’s mother’s smiley countenance as she preaches against assault rifles in her phony interview. Other examples of no-real-tears interviews abound. Does your GUT tell you that these people are all being truthful?
Also note, that Emilie Parker allegedly drew a picture of an owl (with Masonic blue wings) which was held up by Anderson Poofter and ended up at the White House. The OWL is often used as a symbol for Molech, God of child sacrifices and Bohemian Grove references and is present in the street layout of Washington DC…along with inverse pentagrams.
This drawing of an owl, for those with eyes to see, is pretty much a “signature”…in the same way that Bush’s reading of a story about a pet GOAT on the morning of 9/11 was. WTF is going on? All we want is the truth…and in pursuit of that, there can be no compromise.
“Plane must hit Steel!”
Troll much?
hey dumbass- do you know what my quote is from ?
No tell me. And what relevance does it have here?
That’s what the kids were told to say by the teacher while the towers were coming down in front of Bush! Google it!
Well I’ll be dipped in sht…I had never seen that. No fkn way.
But it’s true: ****http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=15922
Good catch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEIpb6agqFg
damn, good show, Raptor!
Re the “Guns”-
Do either of these appear to be the type of firearm Nancy or Adam Lanza might have used for “target practice”?
(Can anyone picture Nancy or Adam handling the recoil from a Saiga with a 12 gauge round?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5o2u_4Z2SE&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Did Nancy Lanza even have a permit for any gun? Not according to TIME-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2CJVaYHqBw
Maybe Nancy and Adam just left “the long gun” in the trunk after target practice with the hanguns, right?-
(Carver’s “long gunman” theory) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CDHLBfKusU
How does anyone know that all the guns belonged to Nancy if they can’t even find any permits?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRqWw1rmW2s
Survivalist? Prepper? on a quarter-million alimony per annum?
Dream on, Bradley, (and don’t mind me, I’m just another one of your “Conspiracy Whack-Jobs”.
Ok, Joe Quinn. Now I get it. So you’re mostly responsible for this piece. Why share all the glory with Bradley? Does it give you both a little more plausible deniability? I ran headlong into your blog when I was trying to locate Nancy Lanza’s consolidated tax record, just to firm up the title on that Honda Civic. You said it could be found “near the bottom”, but all I’m finding is one for Rodia’s granny or somebody. What gives? The only thing else I’m finding is a lot of cheesy mission statements disguised as mottos- For instance-
“Most Conspiracy Theorists Can’t Think”…or “Will the bullshit artists quit their yapping and spreading of disinfo now? Unlikely. It’s a nutjob’s job to spread disinfo and ignore facts”.
Okay Joe, I’m done already. Nailed me in one shot. Can’t wait until you bin me, along with all the rest of those Sandy Hook crackpots and tin-foil mad hatters out there. Bullshit artists and conspiracy whack-jobs like me should all be banned from the web, along with all their guns. Why stop at the 2nd amendment, when you can wreck the 1st? Maybe you can both team up on a new website with Jeff Prager, and call it Debunk.com!
Until that happy occasion, I guess we’ll just have to make do with a shill site like this: http://joequinn.net/
About that Honda Civic… http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/26/sandy-hook-hoaxes-and-the-terror-of-the-situation/
Grazie, Bradley, for running that down for me.. I never really bought into that Rodia thing anyway, (those police transmissions are even more hilarious than an old episode of Car 54, Where Are You?)
My beef is with Quinn. When Quinn the Eskimo gets here, everybody’s gonna jump for joy.
So now, is that conclusive proof that it belonged to Nancy Lanza? I couldn’t care less about Christopher Rodia other than trying to figure out what he might be doing there. If he wasn’t, that’s fine with me. I hardly think that makes all the rest of it null and void.
That’s about as inclusive proof as we’ll ever get on the Civic, I reckon. They need to tie it to somebody, and if they can’t tie it around Rodia’s neck, then it’ll eventually have to be Nancy’s. She had to have some kind of a second car, if Monsignor Weiss was out tooling around in her Beemer on a consolation tour. Hell, they can’t even show us a driver’s license for Adam. WTF?
Garibaldi, you’re so finicky. Why now that the whole matter with the lawn blower thief is cleared up, what’s left? Monsignor must have another gig. That or Nancy used to let him tool around in her ride. Nosiree, nothing suspicious about the rest of this. I heard they’re having a barbecue over at Gene’s. Wanna go? You can bring the kids.
Ok, Joe Quinn. Now I get it. So you’re mostly responsible for this piece. Why share all the glory with Bradley? Does it give you both a little more plausible deniability? I ran headlong into your blog when I was trying to locate Nancy Lanza’s consolidated tax record, just to firm up the title on that Honda Civic. You said it could be found “near the bottom”, but all I’m finding is a sheet for Rodia’s granny or somebody. What gives? The only thing else I’m finding is mostly a lot of cheesy mission statements disguised as mottos- For instance-
“Most Conspiracy Theorists Can’t Think”…or “Will the bullshit artists quit their yapping and spreading of disinfo now? Unlikely. It’s a nutjob’s job to spread disinfo and ignore facts”.
Okay Joe, I’m done already. Nailed me in one shot. Can’t wait until you bin me, along with all the rest of those Sandy Hook crackpots and tin-foil mad hatters out there. Bullshit artists and conspiracy whack-jobs like me should all be banned from the web, along with all our guns. Why stop at the 2nd amendment, when you can wreck the 1st? Maybe you can both team up on a new website with Jeff Prager, and call it Debunk.com!
Until that happy occasion, I guess we’ll just have to make do with a shill site like this: http://joequinn.net/
Joe who? I though Cass Sunstein wrote this. My mistake. You know, ever since I started engaging in questioning the veracity of the press and/or their motives I just “can’t think”. Maybe its one of those “directed ray” things (oh, there I go again).
This whole thing is perfectly understandable. Its those “others” at the end that need looking into. People smile when they’re sad and vice versa. I get it. Where have I been? If Gene isn’t acting they would have never let him out of that loony bin he used to work at.
I must have slipped off into an alternative universe or something. The very IDEA of questioning our designated mouthpieces–oh the humanity! What next, challenging authority? Where will it end?
Yes, its nice to see such “level-headed” analysis. This is obviously all clear as a bell and totally supported. Now, those OTHER examples, you know, at the end. THOSE could be suspicious. But, if you decide to look into any of that remember, never challenge the MSM. They are your friends. Unless you’re a filthy conspiracy theorist, that is.
“Now, those OTHER examples, you know, at the end”. So sorry to hear you read the whole thing!
Thanks. Shows you how addled I am (must be all that “conspiracy” stuff!). I was waiting for the punch line, you know, the part that says “gotcha, heh, heh”, but it didn’t come. Instead, (almost as oddly as this whole hoax), they list OTHER media hoaxes that deserve closer inspection. Go figure. Just like drills going live is the new norm, inconsistent logic is the new reality. “War is peace…..you get the idea.
“Don’t criticize the press, except if I say its OK”. Glaring inconsistencies are merely “minor reporting errors”. Wildly unorthodox behavior is “stress”. Actors are people too. “What drill?”.
“We don’t show dead bodies unless we’re running a dead Osama contest”.
I know, its just me. I’m sure, on a planet far, far away, this is perfectly understandable. But here on planet Earth, I’d say clarifications remind me of an old Winston Churchill quote; “yes madam, I am drunk. But tomorrow I shall be sober, and you’ll still be ugly”. Sorta like the logic in this piece. People tell me I’m old and that they don’t teach logic in schools any longer. Maybe they’re right.
You missed your true calling in life, LoPhatt. You should have been a gag writer for Gene Rosen.
WTF is up with every one chiming in with the new dumbed down politically correct lingo now being used for a rifle, a “long gun” ?
Now we begin touching nerves. Despite being by design, this is not wise, especially when one thinks of that which is actually at stake. One should never underestimate the anger this event has generated, some seethe in private while others are more vocal.
To say that there are not OBVIOUS ACTORS within this event is an absolute insult. Actors being deployed to sell the official narrative are a given, THIS DOES NOT IN ANYWAY MEAN THAT NO ONE ACTUALLY DIED…Careful suggesting such simply because you’re now playing the looney tune alien invasion conspiracy nutter card…or using the DEATH by associated form of attack, that too has run it’s course.
Easily explained…..the tag you elude to on the civic/accord/honda/ WTF ever owns it……RUN THE DAMN THING…..Have it run…………….who IN FACT does it come back to? If it indeed comes back to Momma Lanza than you’re a leg to stand on and all the other clowns in Alt media are immediately compromised……………….Only Duff says LE has told him and his associates that it comes back to Rodia.
As for the weapons in question……………….This has all been clarified over and over again and again…
In school…Glock 10 mm—Sig P226 9 mm…Bushmaster .223 xm15-e2s
Trunk of Black car….Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge
You, like everyone else, continue to ask the wrong questions….I KNOW THE REASON FOR THIS….and you do to if you’ll ball up and admit to it.
Proper questions are LOGISTICS…..TARGET ACQUISITION IF….and that’s a big f,ing if…the AR was semi-auto and not modified to FULL AUTO……………..You do know what this means do you not?? It means what has been said is absolutely impossible IF THE AR WAS REAL LIFE FIRE SEMI…………..IMPOSSIBLE………………The answer to this being semi as reported TRUMPS ONE 110 LB SHOOTER as being solely responsible……………..also voids the ” HUNDREDS OF ROUNDS BEING SPENT” casing laying everywhere yada yada yada…..Impossible,,,,,,,,,,,,,,trust me, any LE Officers, SWAT, Military—————–KNOWS BEYOND ANY DOUBT that this is 100% accurate opinion….OPINION…WHY? Well hell you know that as well………..
…IT’s WHY they refuse to show photos or video or give any evidence as to the actual NUMBERS OF SPENT CASINGS… If they did then opinion would prove to be fact within seconds of examination either by amateur wannabe or seasoned pro, or even by, EXPERTS……………..Guns and crime scenes are NOT ROCKET SCIENCE……………Yet why do some want everyone to believe the contrary?????????????? Pisses me off royally ..
Last question:…..If what was told is the truth………..then why the dog and pony show when it comes to presence of force? Do you understand where I’m going with this? It takes ( what exactly ) to secure one shooter who’s opted to take his own life?
Off duty from everywhere, obvious military, FBI…Atf..b….Plain clothes carrying the latest 3-k a pop weaponry, saw a few decked out in full bomb recovery and disposal gear WTF??????? Then Vance says they stood down and used proper entry protocols when accessing the schoo, .clearing the school..WTF. Who was the commanding officer who was in charge of STAGING OPERATIONS??????????? This takes real time real effort….but Lanza was long long dead with a self inflicted head wound!!!!!
Then to handle the weapon in the trunk by light of FLASHLIGHT…LOL…
Just how damn dumb do you think most of us really are…?
You may be a bit out of your element here…sorry bout that but reality can be a real bitch.
To that posted above….What is the difference between .40 cal handgun casing vs .223 rifle casings??
Ray Charles can spot that from the cheap seats……no offense intended but this is exactly what those pissing misinformation rely on, count on….. It’s easy to believe stories when one is ignorant of the facts.
Raptor
Spot on raptor. The reactions of the parents strongly suggest actors.
I have seen some smiles at funerals when reflecting on the funny times in life but that’s for someone who’s lived a long life. I’ve also known parents who lost their child and its heart crushing. The parents NEVER get over it. In the sandy hook show every parent that I saw displayed strange reactions.
Agreed completely with your version raptor.not so the above article,disinfo misinfo,propaganda whatever ya wanna call it .there needs to be a intelligent mature discussion/Investigation about the gross inconsistency’s,not bullshit piled on bullshit.
Never make Excuses for anyone involved in this whole scenario….
I too agree with Raptor. If all the rounds they say were fire it would be full-auto. Also, is it a little hard to believe that they would have the “suspect vehicle” taped off in front and walking around it all day and wait until nightfall to see what’s in the trunk? Somebody was trying to add some drama. In the Aurora thing the first thing they did after securing the building was to sweep the parking lot. There were hardly any vehicles there (oddly!), so how hard could it be?
One last thing, Garibaldi linked to a video of the firehouse and school. On one of the commenter’s suggestion I singled out one older kid in a yellow sweatshirt. He was going in circles. An “extra”. I watched it several times and they had the same people going in one door and coming out another over and over. I counted exactly two kids (including the one in the sweatshirt). This was where they were supposed to be picking up all the others. Also, if you were doing an operation at the school would you deliberately block the entire road with vehicles? What if you had an officer who needed help or something?
These are the things we’re either supposed to ignore or are being billed as “bait”. Either way, it is impossible to reconcile with the official version of events.
“As for the lack of pictures of corpses; the reason for that should be self-evident and we find no reason to view it as evidence of any conspiracy.”
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Really? They didn’t mind showing us Saddam Hussein’s corpse, or those of his two sons, did they? They showed us Muammar Gaddafi’s dead body. And somebody floated some pictures of a dead person falsely claimed to be Osama bin Laden, so we know that they have no compunction against showing us gruesome pictures (when it serves some agenda).
And btw where are the lawyers and lawsuits? Should some of the bereaved families by now be poised to sue the school district?
Good point Harold……
And they do not even need to show us the actual murders. How about showing Adam walking up to the school and shooting out the window or walking through the hallway with his Bushmaster and handguns? They won’t show it because it doesn’t exist.
They are counting on the attention deficit disorder of Americans. Most people don’t even seem to care for the truth.
agreed, author, that was weak,I need you to do better!
There you go again, questioning the MSM. You all must be flakey “conspiracy theorists” or something. If they tell you a murder happened its your civic duty to believe. Faith-based “journalism”, just like the authors say. I feel so ashamed that I actually entertained skeptical thoughts (thoughts are almost as sinful as actions, you know?). This is what we needed here all along. “Maturity”. That’s right, none of that childish demanding proof stuff. Oh ye of little faith!
If your duly appointed CIA/journalist (having served an official internship and all) tells you a purple gorilla attached a gaggle of nuns who are YOU to feign disbelief? Do you possess the requisite training to know “truth” from “error”?
Yours is to pray, pay and OBEY (heavy on the pay), and they’ll take care of all the information you’re entitled to know. It’s better this way, trust me. Don’t you feel better already? Once the absorbsion is complete you’ll be at peace.
I just don’t know what the world is coming to. There were PEOPLE IN UNIFORMS explaining all of this. What more proof do you need?
Outstanding Wit!
I especially shine on, “There were PEOPLE IN UNIFORMS explaining all of this. What more proof do you need?”
Even if it turns out that Adam Lanza was involved in shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary school, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t being controlled and/or assisted by “the” “government”.
Consider the case of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the so-called underwear bomber. There’s simply no way he got on that flight from Amsterdam to Detroit – without a passport and without going through any kind of security check – without assistance from “the” “government”.
(Presumably the video from the Amsterdam airport’s security cameras would’ve revealed how he got on the plane, but of course we weren’t allowed to see it. Instead we got TSA’s porno scanners).
Moreover, what serious would-be bomber would make and deliver any kind of “bomb” without doing any kind of testing on a prototype? Especially a would-be bomber who was supposedly trained by “Al-Qaeda”? And they would have us believe he was able to get (or synthesize) PETN, but couldn’t get or make a detonator to that would initiate it? That’s simply ridiculous.
In fact PETN is relatively easy to detonate, and is used in detonators for that reason. There are several patents out there for detonators that use no primary explosives per se but instead use a fast burning thermite composition which causes DDT in the adjacent PETN. A little research on the internet will show how to detonate PETN, but “Al-Qaeda” can’t do it?
In light of this, it’s obvious that somebody wanted Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab on that plane with a realistic looking “dud”.
Thus our Masters have a credibility problem, and people that have a credibility problem, have a credibility problem, and should have no expectation to be taken at face value. So I’ll say it again: As a threshold issue, let’s see the video from the school, or we’re being lied to.
The Underwear bomber was a Mossad operation.
According to Mr. Haskell, a lawyer who got on the plane, the Nigerian bomber forgot his passport. The sharp dressed Indian man who took the Nigerian bomber into another room and then got him on the plane was highly likely a RAW (Indian) agent. RAW collaborates with the Israeli intelligence agency the Mossad.
According to the mainstream media the Al Qaeda Yemen trained the Nigerian bomber and gave him a bomb. Al Qaeda Yemen is controlled by the Mossad.
This happened in 2008: Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence. “A terrorist cell was arrested and will be referred to the judicial authorities for its links with the Israeli intelligence services,” Mr Saleh told a gathering at al-Mukalla University in Hadramawt province.
The bomber’s PETN needs a shock, thus a blasting cap, not a fire and Muslims would have known this. Real Muslim terrorists, if there are any, would have blown up the plane. Mossad just wanted to blame Muslims and ruin their reputation.
This is why the Mossad, chose the Schiphol, Amsterdam airport and why Muslims would not have chosen it for the Nigerian bomber:
“El Al has its own security force at Schiphol,” Heijboer told AFP. “But
they don’t work for El Al they are all from Shin Bet (Israeli secret
service) and are paid by the Israeli embassy. The Israelis run the
airport like a little Haifa.”
Dutch Attorney General Vrakking testified on Jan. 29, 1999, that the
El Al security detachment at Schiphol was a branch of Mossad.
“Schiphol has become a hub for secret weapons transfers,” charged
Henk van der Belt, an investigator working with the Bijlmer survivors.
“Dutch authorities have no jurisdiction over Israeli activities at the
airport.”
So perhaps the Nigerian bomber is a version of an Israeli secret weapon that was intended not to work properly.
“The Underwear bomber was a Mossad operation.”
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Well of course it was. Almost everything that happens is a “Mossad operation” in some sense. The point is, the operation was a false-flag opation supported by “our” “government”, was used against us to further infringe our rights, and may have similarities to the “Sandy Hook massacre”.
And while we’re on the subject, I should say I also believe that mass-murderer Anders Breivik was a mind-controlled Mossad asset.
Yes he was a Mossad stooge, the Norway Massacre was a Mossad operation with help from Freemasons, especially form Eastern Europe. Breivik was brainwashed and perhaps drugged.
James Holmes seemed to be brainwashed and drugged, I wonder if his neighbors heard people speaking with an Israeli accent in his residence.
Excerpts from a January 10th 2013 article:
CENTENNIAL, Colo.— James Holmes’ two-door hatchback was full of items indicating he might have planned to flee after allegedly shooting up an Aurora, Colo., movie theater in July.
Tire-puncturing devices, a canister of tear gas, a .40-caliber handgun, ammunition, Holmes’ iPhone and various backpacks were found in the car, police testified this week.
A photo presented in court showed a half-dozen caltrops in the car’s front seat. The low-tech, anti-personnel weapons—also known as “spike stops” or “road stars” because they can disable a car’s tires—are sometimes fashioned out of nails and, when thrown or dropped, are designed to land with a sharp spike facing upward.
Brian: He parks his car right next to the emergency exit to give it maximum exposure, not a great getaway plan. He also easily gives up to the authorities.
Brian, you don’t just sound like a broken record, you ARE a broken record. Every next time you shout “IT WAS A MOSSAD OPERATION”, you break your own previous world record for how many frackin’ times has anybody ever shouted- “IT WAS A MOSSAD OPERATION!
Thanks again, Brian, but yes, WE BELIEVE YOU! WE KNOW, IT WAS A MOSSAD OPERATION!!!
(and… along with all his old Mossad buddies, Duff must really LOVE you a WHOLE LOT, Brian.
all this stupid shit so one small group can rule over the unchosen-do you know that the renaissance coincided with the expelling of the jews? Must of been a coincidence
What ever happened to “Umar Fizzlepants”? The last I heard the lawyer couple who saw the whole security dodge was suing. I’m a little surprised they didn’t try to say that Adam had a fuze. Maybe that was Rodia. So many actors, I get confused.
Stephen, yes, those things are usually done “pre-production”. Hence, the BBC “problem” with reporting WTC 7 before it happened and the “issues” with the charity sites posting ahead of schedule. It may take a while to bring us a full-blown Hollywood assault with explosions and smoke and all. Probably have George Lucas working on it as we speak.
A good article, but new and huge evidence is arriving daily. Did you mention the SSDI death report on Lanza establishing his date of death as the 13th? Did you mention the FEMA drill, practicing its response to children’s needs during an armed assault, at a school 15 miles away and carried out on the same day and time of the Sandy Hook event? It has been confirmed. And as a coincidence of that magnitude is simply not possible, that is a SMOKING GUN. The government has not even covered its tracks on this! And the fact that footage from that drill was mixed in with Sandy Hook coverage indicates the MEDIA’S COMPLICITY in the event. The point for us researchers is that the evidence is now clear: it was beyond a shadow of a doubt a GOVERNMENT OPERATION. Case closed on that.
I would say a minority of researchers are convinced no children were murdered, and there is certainly evidence supporting their argument: no hysterical parents, actors involved (confirmed–there was a call for actors), etc. I am still thinking along the lines of the majority of researchers that it was a massacre. But this does remain the essential open question.
same day drills seem to be an MO of false flag ops
The drills are certainly interesting. As is the SSDI death report dated December 13th.
“I would say a minority of researchers are convinced no children were murdered.”
Indeed, but note how loud that minority is. These boys must be busy: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
Watch what you’re saying, Bradley. You’re blowing all your implausible deniability.
What you really need is a good disclaimer- http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/March_23.pdf
Still personally find it hard to believe that some of these people in front of the cameras were not bit part actors. Unusual to see an acknowledgement in a VT article that ‘The USA does indeed have a gun crime problem compared to other nations…..’ The explanation given by the authors is totally plausible.
“A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that……” Alan Ladd (Shane – 1953).
articles are censored at VT to meet a prescribed doctrine or belief- I know, everywhere else does that censoring thing
I meant “not censored”
Absolutely, probably one the most uncensored sites in articles and commentary, which is what makes VT so thought provoking. Just hadn’t seen that position on US gun crime taken by a VT writer, so it stuck out like a sore thumb ( ! )
Good work gentlemen,
I agree with the authors, if Sandy Hook was a black op I don’t think the goal is gun control, the goal is getting Americans to except the militarization of society including armed drones in order to keep safe. Statistically, kids have a higher chance of getting killed by a bolt of lightening than getting killed at school.
According to NBC federal and state officials said four handguns were recovered at the school and apparently only handguns. This report was provided on January 18th,
Supposedly they found a lot of casings from a Bushmaster semiautomatic rifle. I nothing about guns, I have to wonder if casing from a semiautomatic handgun may look like the casings from a Bushmaster, if not well the authorities have some explaining to do. They did not find a Bushmaster in the car, those who know guns believe it was a shot gun.
By the way most law enforcement high ranking personnel from large and medium size U.S. cities go to the militant Israel for training, most of our FBI agents receive training from the ADL. I’m sure high ranking people in the Israeli government would cherish seeing the militarization of the United States. If Sandy Hook is a black op (I don’t know if it is) Israel is the #1 suspect.
Here is the link to the NBC video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oJkvB9goPAA
If gun control is not a major objective of our Masters, then what was “fast and furious” all about?
Fast and Furious has not brought about gun control, most Americans have never heard of Fast and Furious or know very little about it.
Even if Obama goes back to the laws which banned assault rifles, the laws had loopholes which allowed gun manufacturers to continue to make and sell them in the United States.
Many U.S. cities are now legally eligible to use drones and some have asked if the drones can be upgraded to carry tear gas, tazers and other types of weapons and the answer is yes.
A couple more Sandy Hooks and most Americans will welcome drones with weapons to keep children and others safe. Once drones with weapons are commonplace, you’ll see soldiers welcomed by the American people as part of the domestic security force. However, perhaps Sandy Hook was actually done by Adam Lanza, we need more information.
I want to hear from the two surviving adults who had bullet wounds to their legs, I want to know if their description of his height, weight and mannerisms match those of Adam Lanza. Schoolmates describe him as nervous and fidgety, which fits the description of many of those with Asperger’s Syndrome. The typical person with Asperger’s Syndrome is a bit clumsy, if the murderer was well coordinated perhaps it wasn’t Adam Lanza.
‘Fast and Furious has not brought about gun control…”
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No because they got caught. But apparently one of their intentions was to use the consequences to tighten gun regulations, no?
“ATF officials didn’t intend to publicly disclose their own role in letting Mexican cartels obtain the weapons, but emails show they discussed using the sales, including sales encouraged by ATF, to justify a new gun regulation called “Demand Letter 3″. That would require some U.S. gun shops to report the sale of multiple rifles or “long guns.” Demand Letter 3 was so named because it would be the third ATF program demanding gun dealers report tracing information.”
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Harold, good point. If they are willing to run guns (no doubt in exchange for drugs), to Mexican cartels for use against their own agents, why would anyone question their ability to do things like this? Holder was there recently working on a scam to inflame public opinion. What could that have been?
how are drones going to stop intel op false flag events-they don’t connect-even if it was real, they don’t connect
the object is to pass so many law prevention measures that the ppl become enslaved without realizing it- they’ve been doing that for awhile-certainly got a boost when they created the fed-apparently their getting nervous cause they just keep having one after the other, like the need to get it over with
“The Sandy Hook school massacre was not a covert attempt to take away Americans’ ‘right to bear arms’ as defined in the 2nd amendment of the US constitution.”
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Says who? I could just as well say that “9/11 was NOT an act of false-flag terrorism intended as a pretext for a fraudulent ‘war on terror’ used to effectively overthrow the rule and begin a long-standing war of conquest against the independent world”. But that would obviously be incorrect.
The fact is, neither you nor I know exactly what happened at Sandy Hook. We do know however that “Obama” and his Jewish-supremacist handlers have an anti-American agenda and despise the U.S. Constitution; we do know that they have no problems killing children en masse; and we do know that government officials – at all levels – lie to us on a regular basis, and that when given a moral choice, most apparently prefer to do what they’re told rather than risk their careers and pensions or whatever.
Don’t tell me that the monsters that murdered 3000 people on 9/11/01 wouldn’t murder 28 more at Sandy Hook (or anywhere else for that matter). Treachery and mass-murder are the coin of the realm for this evil empire.
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“Every time that a shooting of this nature takes place, the sale of guns across the USA increases dramatically.”
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Even if true, so what? What’s your point? Most people probably know – at some level of consciousness – that “their” “government” generally does not act in good faith with their best interests in mind, so you can’t blame people for being proactive.
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“There is no evidence that the US government is planning to use the Sandy Hook massacre to justify an attempt to ban the private ownership of guns in the USA.”
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LOL! That’s ridiculous. Did you just recently start paying attention to the news? Just to clue you in, they use a technique called “incrementalism”. They chip away at their target a little at a time. They push hard, gain some ground, and then maybe back off a little bit when there’s some resistance. Then they wait for the next pretext and do it again; and again and again and again. They’ve been doing it for a long time.
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Sure they’re talking about it, but talkin’ aint doin’.
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ROTFL! Well the pretext only happened last month. At least give them a little time, will ya? They’re working on it. Have some patience.
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“In any case, it would be almost impossible to enforce any such laws.”
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The trees seem to be blocking your view of the forest. Obviously they know they can’t completely disarm us. What they’re apparently trying to do is wear us down…to generally do anything and everything they can to reduce they amount of effective firepower available to Joe and Jill Sixpack – over time – so that when the average person finally one day realizes that he has nothing left to lose, and a day of reckoning comes, there will be simply be less hardware available to fight with. That’s all. You disagree? Then explain to me the necessity of the Hughes amendment to the “Firearm Owners Protection Act” of 1986, for example.
Put simply, what they’re doing with “gun control” is the domestic equivalent of the “sanctions” they apply to their international victims – intended to weaken them – prior to a physical attack. Do you follow?
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The USA does indeed have a gun crime problem compared to other nations, so the root problem obviously isn’t the guns themselves but the people who use them. Why then are there so many people in the USA that use their guns against fellow Americans?
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In part because, in order to gain control over “our” “government” they way they have, our Masters first had to corrupt our morals, destroy our culture, turn our schools into indoctrination centers, dumb us down, etc. So now here we are with corruption and manifest social injustice everywhere, what should we expect?
Oops. I did only a quick reading and did not notice these points. Good observation.
I am not sure which way you are leaning here… Are you saying what we have been reported is accurate, or not?
This is another excellent article and it does make a strong case for an independent investigation. The exposure of the absurd “lone gunman” narrative consistently cited in connection with the referenced murderous events points toward official complicity in media narratives if not in the deeds themselves. I was taken aback by the author’s off-hand dismissal of evidence of actors employed to relate obviously scripted narratives to the public. In the Sandy Hook case, how else does one comprehend the appearance and absurd performance of Eugene Rosen, among others. It is true that traumatized witnesses may contradict themselves. It is also true that eager reporters may make mistakes. When such gaffs consistently serve to embed an official but unconfirmed narrative in the public psyche one must raise the question of media conspiracy. Combine that with “lone gunman” and other implausible narratives spun by, or reported to having been issued by law enforcement and other official sources. It is not unreasonable for many intelligent persons to feel they have, as the article’s last line suggests, grounds for strongly suspecting these horrible events, and their surrounding narratives, to have been created by design.
There is only one problem: how do you deliver this to the ignorant masses touching not a single book in their hole life, listening only to pop style news.
Wow! Spellcheck, if you are going to attack someone for not reading….