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Understanding the real significance TODAY of the Nazi holocaust
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Understanding the real significance TODAY of the Nazi holocaust
By Alan Hart
I am writing this piece fully aware that it will result in me being reviled and condemned by some who read my articles on web sites other than my own (www.alanhart.net) and are fixated with Nazi holocaust denial and/or what is called “holocaust revisionism”, which is usually something less than complete denial.
Incidentally, I never use the term The Holocaust (neither a capital T for the definitive article nor a capital H for the noun) in any reference I make to the fate of Jews in Nazi Germany and Nazi occupied Europe. Why not? The holocaust experience – being the victims of genocide – is not a uniquely Jewish experience as Zionism wants and needs the world to believe, and as the capital letters (used by the mainstream media to avoid offending Zionism) imply it to be. Since the obscenity of the Nazi holocaust there have been more than 70 other genocides and there were more than a few before it – the elimination of most of the native Indians of America, for example.
Those who deny and/or revise the Nazi holocaust offer three main assertions in support of their case.
The first is that the Nazis had no official policy or intention of exterminating Jews.
In my understanding of real history there is what could be called a starter grain of truth in that assertion but only to this extent. Killing Jews in large numbers was not on the Nazi agenda when Hitler came to power in 1933. As has been well documented by others, there was on some levels co-operation between the Nazis and Zionism to empty Germany of its Jews and get them into Palestine. Killing Jews in large numbers only became behind-closed-doors Nazi policy after the 1939 British White Paper effectively repudiated the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and reversed British policy for Palestine.
(The detailed and documented background to what I am attempting to summarize here is contained in Britain Admits, Too Late, “We were Wrong”, Chapter 8 of Volume One of my book Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, which is sub-titled The False Messiah).
Six weeks before the White Paper was published on 17 May 1939, a committee whose members included the Lord Chancellor, Vincent Caldecot, reported that
His Majesty’s Government were not free to dispose of Palestine without regard for the wishes and interests of the inhabitants of Palestine (the majority of whom were Arabs).
The White Paper set out its stall by pointing to the ambiguity in the Balfour Declaration of the expression “a national home for the Jewish people” and “the resulting uncertainty as to the objective of (Britain’s) policy.” The indicator that there was to be no more ambiguity and uncertainty was this most explicit statement:
His Majesty’s Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish state.
Britain’s newly defined policy objective was an independent Palestinian state within 10 years, and to prevent it becoming a Jewish state, Jewish immigration was to be limited to 10,000 a year for five years, after which no more Jews would be allowed to enter Palestine without the consent of the Arabs (consent which everybody knew would not be given).
Zionists declared the White Paper to be a betrayal of Britain’s promise to them. And that in the proverbial nutshell was why Zionism in some of its in-Palestine manifestations turned to terrorism – initially to break Britain’s will to stay and implement the White Paper policy.
Britain’s new Palestine policy, in particular the limits on Jewish immigration which were enforced, was a problem for the Nazis, too. If they couldn’t make use of Zionism as an agency to assist with the removal of Jews to Palestine, what to do? The answer was, “Kill them.”
There is a great deal of documented and irrefutable evidence of what Nazi leaders said behind closed doors and wrote in their diaries on the matter of exterminating the Jews.
One of the responsibilities of Heinrich Himmler, the commander of the SS, was setting up and controlling the Nazi concentration camps. To a secret meeting of top SS officials on 4 October 1943, he said: “I also want to refer here very frankly to a very difficult matter. We can now very openly talk about this among ourselves, and yet we will never discuss this publicly.” What was the “very difficult matter”? In Himmler’s own words to his audience, “the extermination of the Jewish people.”
When Germany’s defeat was imminent and Nazi leaders feared they would be captured and brought to trial, Himmler instructed his camp commandants to destroy records, crematoria, and all other signs of mass extermination.
The Nazi leader who most frequently and explicitly committed his thoughts about exterminating the Jews to paper was Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda. Here, for example, are just a few of his diary entries:
5 February 1942: The Jewish question is again giving us a headache; this time, however, not because we have gone too far, but because we are not going far enough.
14 February 1942: The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now overtaken them. Their destruction will go hand in hand with the destruction of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.
18 February 1942: …We must show them no mercy and no indulgence. This riffraff must be eliminated and destroyed.
6 March 1942: … the greater the number of Jews liquidated, the more consolidated will the situation in Europe be after this war.
20 March 1942: …the Fuehrer is as uncompromising as ever. The Jews must be got out of Europe, if necessary by applying most brutal methods.
27 March 1942: The procedure is a pretty barbaric one and not to be described here more definitely. Not much will remain of the Jews. On the whole it can be said that about 60 per cent of them will have to be liquidated whereas only about 40 per cent can be used for forced labour,
29 April 1942: Short shrift is made of the Jews in all eastern occupied areas. Tens of thousands of them are liquidated
14 December 1942: Jewry must pay for its crime just as our Fuehrer prophesied in his speech in the Reichstag; namely, by the wiping out of the Jewish race in Europe and possibly in the entire world.
9 March 1943 … (Hitler) approved of my measures and specifically ordered me to make Berlin entirely free of Jews.
13 May 1943: There is therefore no other recourse left for modern nations except to exterminate the Jew….
The second main assertion of those who deny and/or revise the holocaust is that the Nazis did not use gas chambers to mass murder Jews.
I wonder how many of those who believe this and display in comments on web sites their loathing and even hatred of all Jews everywhere have ever met and talked with Jewish survivors of the Nazi holocaust. I have and I’ll quote just one of them, my anti-Zionist friend Dr. Hajo Meyer who survived Auschwitz.
He told me, and I believed him without reservation, that some of his Jewish “comrades” in Auschwitz were assigned the task of removing the corpses from the gas chambers and transferring them to incinerators for burning. He added that the smoke and fumes from the chimneys of the incinerators could be seen and smelled all over the camp.
The third main assertion of holocaust revisionists is that the figure of six million Jewish deaths is a gross exaggeration and that the real number was very significantly lower. That might be the case but even if it was, my response is still – so what! For the sake of discussion, let’s assume that only one million Jews were exterminated, would that be a rational reason to deny that there was a holocaust? Of course not!
As I note in Holocaust – Jewish Death, Zionist Life, Chapter 9 of Volume 1 of my book, holocaust denial (and most aspects of holocaust revisionism) is something I cannot get my Gentile mind around. It strikes me as evil on a par with the commissioning of the slaughter and the slaughtering itself.
The paragraph immediately above is my message to holocaust deniers and revisionists but transmitting it is not the main purpose of this article. It is to draw attention to the real significance today of the Nazi holocaust.
Its initial significance can be summarized as follows. Without the holocaust there almost certainly would be no Israel because prior to the unleashing of Nazi ant-Semitism there simply was not enough Jewish support for Zionism’s colonial enterprise.
The real significance of the Nazi holocaust today is in its use by Zionism and all supporters of Israel right or wrong as a card to blackmail non-Jewish North Americans and Europeans into refraining from criticising Israel or, to be more precise, staying silent when its leaders demonstrate their absolute contempt for international law and resort to state terrorism.
In a recent editorial even the New York Times expressed a measure of despair at the consequences of Zionism’s ability to shut down honest discussion and debate. It said:
“One dispiriting lesson from Chuck Hagel’s nomination for defense secretary is the extent to which the political space for discussing Israel forthrightly is shrinking. Republicans focused on Israel more than anything during his confirmation hearing, but they weren’t seeking to understand his views. All they cared about was bullying him into a rigid position on Israel policy. Enforcing that kind of orthodoxy is not in either America’s or Israel’s interest.
“The sad truth is that there is more honest discussion about American-Israeli policy in Israel than in this country. Too often in the United States, supporting Israel has come to mean meeting narrow ideological litmus tests. J Street, a liberal pro-Israel group that was formed as a counterpoint to conservative groups like the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (the Zionist lobby’s command and control centre), has argued for vibrant debate and said ‘criticism of Israeli policy does not threaten the health of the state of Israel.’”
Criticism of Israeli policy, the editorial concluded, “is essential.”
Question: What must happen if there is ever to be enough political space in America for informed and honest debate which includes criticism and condemnation of the policies and actions of Israel’s leaders?
In my view what is most needed is a president with the courage to say something very like the following to the Jews, not only his fellow Americans who are Jewish but the Jews of the world. “The persecution you suffered on and off down the centuries and which climaxed with the obscenity of the Nazi holocaust IS NOT A JUSTIFICATION FOR ZIONSIM’S PERSCUTION OF THE PALESTINIANS IN THE NAME OF YOU ALL.”
If I was drafting a presidential speech which contained those words or something very like them, I would add this. “It is time for all of us to say that we reject Zionism’s implicit assertion that the Nazi holocaust justified its ethnic cleansing of Palestine and still justifies its oppression of the occupied Palestinians, and that we are no longer going to be blackmailed into silence by Zionism’s use and abuse of the holocaust.”
Footnote
I am fascinated by the fact that some of those who display their loathing and hatred of Jews while denying the Nazi holocaust in the comment spaces of web sites, the Veterans Today site in particular, seem to be speaking from the same script. That makes me entertain the thought that the script they are working from was provided by Zionism, and that they are, in reality, Zionist assets. That’s by no means impossible because, as I have previously noted, Zionism needs anti-Semitism. The more anti-Semitism there is slurping around web sites, the less likely it is that Zionism will be called and held to account for its crimes. It would not surprise me if that is Zionism’s calculation.
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David Cole (an honest American Jew) investigates Auschwitz & uncovers myths:
**********http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1004&play=100#watch
Even in the standard literature there is no claim of extermination until late 1941, not 1939 as asserted here. In 1940-1 there were still attempts to make peace and ship the Jews to Madagascar or wherever.
Jim, if this is the reason I cannot post my comment (3 times), I would be very sorry, because I’m not one of those misfits, but I have something to say about the above statements.
There is one little thing, I would like to add to your historical picture. Generally, I don’t see those people as reactors but as actors.
To be more concrete, as we and our forefathers/mothers have been played with over a much too long time without our decisive agreement, the same thing happened to those, who call themselves jews.
As we are day to day, they also have to been asked: what did you do, when things went wrong?
I heard answers to this questions only on a personally basis. As a musician, I played with people of many countries – many of them a jews and that’s just fine to me as if they where christians, muslims or even agnostics. Everything, that really important is, are we (me included) honest, do we have real human feelings, can things get better?
One of my best jewish friends fled from Israel, when the ’67 war broke out. His simple statement was/is: Ididn’t want to kill Arabs for nothing. I think, that’s a statement, clear, honest and direct.
Could you please tell me, when the english people really suffered the most and explain the political circumstances?
Can it perhaps be, that the last time this occurred, was when they where betrayed by their own government – in collusion with some powerful companies/agencies from outside as well as from inside, who never gave a dime for any specific english, american, italian, german, israeli (yes included) or other national interest?
There you had this single word “national”, that makes so many people in power frightened. No, I have to correct myself, they are not frightened at all, because they always owned those nationalists, they played with them at their own tune.
Don’t ever tell me or other – because you are much too intelligent – that the present political situation is somewhat dangerous to the political, military and business elite in Israel. They like war, it’s their best business, it always was and it always will be.
You also know, that many, many other groups are just doing the same thing, looking for the next opportunity to wage another “real great” war. Yes, great for profits, great for power, great for unbelieveable pain and suffering for people, living in countries who don’t have that power.
Don’t ever tell me or anyone on this Website, that you are not aware of all the disgusting things, those secret services did and do, thereby utilizing many of their “synagoges” as fortresses for political and other not friendly muddling.
When the word holocaust is used today, it’s usually totally drawing out of it’s historical background. That not so nice background is well known to many of us, who dared to read books, including the bible.
I will never allow anyone to play with this subject in the wrong content and by totally ignory the historical relevance. The ned product of this mind boggling new wording was just the invention of the “HOLOCAUST” as a political weapon against those, who rightfully oppose ZIONISM as a new form of social and racial Darvinism. Behind all this (read H.G. Wells – I konw you did, Aldous Huxley and many more) you’ll easily find the degenerated aristocracy in your country (GB), in my country (D) and in many other european countries and their degenerated word view.
You talk about HOLOCAUST and don’t mention Prince Charles? What about Bill Gates – do I have to put the finger on his own made statements? Did you mention the creepy crowd of the Rockefellers, who never did any other thing as robbing and murdering? Are you perhaps friends with you now robber barons Rothschild (bomb, kill, loot, bomb…) and the wonderful Lord Sassoon (he’s the one who pretents to protect you money – what a joke, his granddaddy robbed the irake king and fled to India, only to begin massive drug deals with GB).
HOLOCAUST nowadays is done totally quietly. Allmost no one talks about it, it’s done for instance in Chicago by pushing the rice prices up, so that people in the poor countries starve to death. It has been done very effectively in the UN, when they decided that none of the grat wheet and rice producers should take real measures for food protection, so the modern HUNGER GAMES come into reality.
HOLOCAUST is done bit by bit, every step is well prepared and never will you hear any one in power talking about the real aim of their desastreous decisions.
Please, think of it again. Don’t simply put your anger in words, maybe there is more unfortunate truth outside your normal radar.
I have a feeling you may have used the word w/e/b/s/i/t/e in your posts. Have noticed posts disappear in nether land when that happens.
It is difficult to take anyone seriously who uses WW2 propaganda terms like “Nazi”. Neither Hitler, his Party or the general Deutschen People used the term other than in a derogatory way. What we know of “Nazis” is from Allied Propaganda, Hollywood & post engineered court historians. We know very little of the National Socialist, the way the Deutschen People of the 3rd Reich knew them. After the war the Allies starved, raped & exterminated the Deutschen People for their land, resources, technology & patents. In order to survive the Deutschen People had to believe that they where inherently evil, confess to their “Nazi” sins & welcome the Allies punishment.
The default interpretation today is that the “Germans” are still inherently evil therefore anything they do or did in the past, must be suspect of evil unless otherwise proven. This is called pre-judgment based on race. In other words RACISM. The argument that “critics” are only talking about a Party, does not wash. First of all, the Party was called Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers’ Party). The Party used the short form of National Socialist or NS not Nazi. Secondly the term Nazi is used in a general vulgar way to mean the Deutschen People the same way “Kraut” a 1st World War derogatory racist term is used to mean a Deutschen Person.
If so called Journalists & Historians can not get something so basic correct, like the word “Nazi” then we have to conclude that they are either intellectually challenged, propagandist or worse, antiDeutsch racists.
THE MAIN SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HOLOCAUST IS “FEAR OF THE SMEAR”, A NEW INQUISITION
It is hard to understand why the media allow to go unchallenged
the Israelis nuclear arsena,
or the attack on the Liberty,
or Johnathan Pollard’s treachery,
or the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians,
or the financing of pro-Israel members of Congress,
or the number of dual citizen US-Israelis in the Bush administration clammering for the destruction of Iraq,
or every other indication that Israel is a “Bad friend” of the USA,
unless you consider the effect of the Holocaust, and the smear of “anti-semitism”
It is a new Inquisition.
Do you get paid to post these comments?
Or are you just defending your parasitic tribe…like a good Jewish patriot
HE will never reveal that detail…
Thanks Mr. Hart,
Don’t expect to be reviled by anyone bright enough to be suspicious of “Members Only”, Profit Driven Hucksters who abhor the daylight of open and honest historical examination.
Please see:
“A Factual Appraisal Of The ‘Holocaust’ By The Red Cross;
The Jews And The Concentration Camps:No Evidence Of Genocide”
http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=18054
By the way, I’ve got 6 million bridges to sell but, how dare you ask to see them!…….. “Trust Me!”
I have difficulty understanding how historical controversy is relative to issues regarding policies and actions undertaken currently by the government of the State of Israel. To the extent that we debate the holocaust, however scholarly, substantive debate is upstaged.
Masters of narrative, regardless whether it is factual or mythical, understand that by framing the discussion, getting people talking about what they want them to talk about, means that people can be kept from talking about matters that narrators prefer not be discussed. Masters of narrative, descendants of biblical scribes, understand the political importance of mass media, particularly movies and television, given mankind’s semi-literate condition, in framing discussions.
Once one grasps this idea supporting evidence becomes abundantly clear. Hoaxes of our time can then be addressed and exposed. Only the most cynical and the most arrogant would refer disparagingly to a person who questions authority, and who seeks facts when presented with any story, as a “truther”.
Beautifully and concisely expressed Stewart Ogilby.
What is important is the dire situation America and EU are in, being their institutions and Govts infiltrated and hijacked by the most successful Mafia planet earth has ever known, the very same one that has created hundreds of myths and used them cunningly to dominate entire nations through bought proxies or blackmailed-manipulated fools, getting them to fight its wars, shower it with money and to do its bidding as docile lap pets.
As far as I am concerned Alan Hart is on a hopeless ‘damage control’ mission, using the two proven old horses “Nazi Holocaust” and Antisemitism, to put a brake on the New Consciousness of the People about who is responsible for their plight.
Those who are victims of the real HOLOCAUST are those tens of millions who lost their lives during WW I & WW II, both wars triggered by the Zion Talmudic Mafia and its Worldwide Network, the Palestinians, The Iraqis, the US-EU citizens, who lost their jobs-homes-savings, because of the phony Financial Crisis, provoked by the Mafia Banksters.
One problem that occurs with this issue is that people think they can redefine the “Holocaust” at will … to say in effect that because the German’s had certain anti-Jewish policies, ergo the “Holocaust,” ipso facto, is an established fact.
The “Holocaust,” as it is understood by the millions of brainwashed believers, means the alleged program whose aim was the annihilation of the Jewish people, principally by means of gas chambers, reportedly resulting in the death of some six-million Jews.
Arthur Butz, in his “The Hoax of the Twentieth Century” proved beyond any reasonable doubt that the “Holocaust” is a monumental lie.
Butz wrote, in the conclusion of his book:
“The Jews of Europe were not exterminated and there was no German attempt to exterminate them. The Germans resettled a certain number and these people were ultimately resettled again in accordance with Allied programs… The Jews of Europe suffered during the war by being deported to the East, by having much of their property confiscated and, more importantly, by suffering cruelly in the circumstances surrounding Germany’s defeat. They may even have lost a million dead. The ‘gas chambers’ were wartime propaganda fantasies… comparable to the garbage that was shoveled out… in World War I.”
Since Butz published his book in 1976, many other writers have appeared whose works provide abundant proof that the “Holocaust” is an audacious and outrageous lie.
Anybody who seriously considers the actual evidence and yet claims to believe the “authorized version” of the “Holocaust” story is either an ignoramus or a liar.
you don’t break down a wall of lies by painting the wall- you need a sledgehammer- this lie needs to go before they pass a law here against questioning it and don’t assume our free speech amendment is any protection at all!
jewish suffering in WWII was ordinary but for propaganda hype and ppl brainwashing.Anything extra paying homage to the jews here, plays for the zionists and jews- Alan would simply have his life made very uncomfortable if he were to show sympathy to the anti holocaustianity view-as many successful media pundits, supposedly alternative, would as well!
Prose, even when it pretends to be lyrical, can’t and won’t succeed in covering up established FACTS and PUBLIC-NOTORIOUS TRUTHS:
1) Again Alan Hart is, in FLUENT-SUBTLE-MANIPULATIVE WAYS, trying to whitewash GB’s Govt DIRECT responsibility in the ILLEGAL creation of Israel, the tragic plight of the Palestinians, and the HIJACKING of America-EU by the Zion Talmudic Banksters.
2) Worst, he is labeling president Obama as a COWARD (quote:”In my view what is most needed is a president with the courage to say something very like the following to the Jews, not only his fellow Americans who are Jewish but the Jews of the world.”unquote), and in a most deceptive attempt, Alan Hart is trying to trick president Obama into a public declaration that the Holocaust is a FACT, that the Jews have known tremendous suffering and discrimination in the past, by wanting him to state these magic words: Quote: “The persecution you suffered on and off down the centuries and which climaxed with the obscenity of the Nazi holocaust…”unquote
3) Well, that Holocaust, Mr Hart wants so much to hammer-drill in our minds, the one that it is prohibited to doubt and KINJURU to investigate, the one the brethren uses to blackmail the Goyim with and he himself keeps diving at again and again, day in and day out, to make the Gentiles feel bad-guilty about, the one that has become The New Religion, IS YET TO BE PROVEN BEYOND ANY SHADOW of DOUBT.
4) Why should president Obama at all bother to address Jewish issues, talk to Jews of the world, when the most important issues are the Hijacking of America and its institutions by the Jewish Lobby? Why not ask the prime minister and Govt of “Her Majesty The Queen”or the Queen herself to say the Magic Words? They are the very same ones who have failed the Palestinians, when Palestine was under their mandate and keep failing the Palestinians now, collaborating with the Rogue State of Israel.
5) In one of your last articles, you told us that if president Obama tried in his 2º term to press the Palestinian issue trough, the Israelis would tell him: “Go to Hell”. What make Mr Hart think that they would listen to him now “if Mr hart was his speech writer and he said the words, Mr Hart wants him to say about the Holocaust”?… All those obvious contradictions do not make sense for any logical person, who bothers to analyze what Mr Hart writes and look at it with critical eyes.
6) Mr Hart seems to be oblivious to the Skye-Picot accords and the ever-existing collaboration between GB Govt and Israel, what came after: How the Middle East was divided in spheres of influence between GB and France, being GB the most aggressive of the pair… GB-F-IL attacked Egypt in 1954, GB was in charge of the No-Fly Zone in Iraq and collaborated FULL with Bush-Cheney-PNAC GANG, invading and destroying totally that country, on behalf of Israel.
7) Last but not least: Alan Hart wants us to MIGRATE from VT to his web site. Well, dreaming is free, insulting the intelligence of VT commentators is an offense.
During High School, one of my two best friends was the son of a “paperclip” scientist. Dad had his Luftwaffe uniform in a glass presentation case in the family room. On the wall was a Nazi flag. Dad was unrepentant, lamenting that the campaign against Jewish Bolshevism had not been joined into by other Christian nations. Dad said his job was to go to Auschwitz and other work camps, to ensure that those capable of work were well fed and utilized (I figured out a few years later what happened to those incapable of work). At Auschwitz, they made instrumentation for German aircraft, hence his job bringing him there.
I watched the effect of this upbringing on my friend, who grew increasingly uneasy with the black students at our catholic HS. While research has convinced myself that many holocaust stories are the product of Jewish Communist propaganda, it is undeniable that an undetermined number of Jews were, indeed, murdered because they were perceived as enemies. Of course, war is the murder of enemies, so I have difficulty passing judgement.
My friend’s family moved to Huntsville, Alabama. A few months later, I received a letter describing the new sport he had learned from the locals: “nigger knocking”. My friend fit right in.
What research has convinced you?
When were you in high school? As for your friend’s upbringing, what exactly was it that caused him to be increasingly uneasy? Perhaps “nigger knocking” was what white kids did in Huntsville, and he was just trying to make friends with other white kids. Today we have violent black flash mobs attacking whites. Do they have the same upbringing as your friend?
There were hundreds of Negros who volunteered to fight with Germany against the Soviets, and thousands of Arabs voluntarily fought against the Allies. Germany had a pact with Japan. Last time I checked, Japanese weren’t White.
The “race laws” 1930s Germany are no different than the laws Israel has today, and many Jews have practiced for centuries.
Alan,
You write that it doesn’t matter if the death toll was not six million. I disagree. The reparations paid to zionist organisations and Israel are based on the six million death toll so if the number of Jews who died was one million then you can see straight away that it is a gigantic ripoff. The war ended 68 years ago and Germans through their taxes are still paying out money even though the vast majority of them were not even alive at the time the confict was raging. The German government of 1945 surrendered unconditionally. This meant that the Allies could do whatever they liked including tell lies about the former government. The reparations based on the six million figure are extortion pure and simple. Check out CODOH which means Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust. http://codoh.com It is run by a Korean war veteran named Bradley Smith.
Mr. Hart,
What you “quote’ from the diaries are not quotes at all. The diaries are written in German.
What is translated as “exterminate”, is the verb “ausrotten”. While exterminate is now a popular use of the word, the word itself, has many meanings and also translates as root out, stamp out, wipe out, or exptirpate.
You also seem to ignore the directives, sent by Himmler to camp commandants, demanding that death rates due to typhus, be reduced. Camp records show that the death rates were reduced. If the plan was to exterminate, why would Jewish inmates be sent to camp hospitals to be cured? It makes no sense to waste valuable medical supplies curing people and valuable resources (coke for the crematoria) to creamate them.
If at least one camp commandant was investigated and executed for mistreating camp inmates, why would any of them engage in mistreating camp inmates?
If an German officer in Hungary was tried and executed for causing the death of a Jewish civilian, how likely is it that there were “orders” given to commit atrocities?
There is no doubt that Jews died in German concentration camps, just as Japanese died in Canadian and American concentration camps.The conditions in the camps were similar. Does that mean we should be scouring the diaries of Canadian and American leaders of WWII and interpret what we think their remarks mean?
How many millions of German women and children died in the Churchill directed saturation bombing of German cities, Mr. Hart? Isn’t the deliberate bombing of German civilian targets genocide?
A one time contributor to this site, J B Campbell, believes “Understanding the real significance TODAY of the Nazi holocaust” is that it prevents discussion of the German economic miracle of the 1930s, which was achieved in great part through the issuance of debt free currency.
Then there’s the flip side of the coin:
Eisenhower’s German Death-Camp – Killed One Million Germans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uE7V9PLR9A
Alan. I can’t believe that you believe this crud. But, you obviously do…..
try this: grandoccident.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/wc1.pdf for your edification.
Mr. Hart was brought up in the jewish media and is having a hard time letting go!
THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY by: Prof. Norman Finckelstein (a truncated version)
****************http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres4/NFHolindustry.pdf
victor, as you know, elderly people die in course of time, even in concentration camps. that means to-day they got killed. it is so comfortable to be seen as a victim. it helped even in a law-court to get a dismissal. that is a fact. you should have heard the laughter of the defendant afterwards
& who gave birth to Norman Finckelstein after WW2 ???? a ghost or an angel ?????
Mr. Brian, you nailed it!
Alan Hart if you want some proof of death camps, check out this book:
“JAMES BACQUE’s CRIMES AND MERCIES – The Fate of German Civilians
Under Allied Occupation 1944-1950″
Spread the truth!
I haven’t read Bacque’s book, but it’s true that Eisenhower was no saint. Ordinary German POWs were dying, at the same time that the Paper Clip criminals were brought over to the US; both were crimes, IMHO.
Going back to Mr. Hart’s bottom line, one holocaust does NOT justify another one. If we think like that, there will never be an end to the business of war. Yes, it’s a business, a huge business. War profiteers need to be rooted out, and their filthy business ended.
If one takes recent DNA research into account, 90% of world ‘jews’ are not actually ‘jews’ at all, at least not in the semetic sense. Semetic jews make up around 10% of the current numbers of world jewry, the rest are a mixture of various Eastern European tribes including the Khazars who we were told were almost mythological just a few years ago, but now it seems that the Khazarian Empire of judaic converts was indeed a fact. Indeed, if we take this information to it’s logical conclusion there were no semetic jews in Europe in the early years of the 20th century, therefore the figures of 9,000 or 6,000,000 are a moot point, whether they were killed or not. What is certain is that they are no more deserving of special treatment than any other group that died as a result of political ‘ethnic cleansing’ or due to losses in war because they were not ‘semites’, but people of indeterminate race, much like the current population of Israel. If you want to meet a real semite, start up a conversation with a Palestinian, not with a white European ‘jewish’ coloniser…
The enemy is the ideology of Judaism, but the people who practice it need to be considered a “race” so they can accuse anyone who despises their ideology of being a racist. Unfortunately, it works. It’s mind boggling what this lowlife gets away with.
Of course, it’s just a lie, like everything else about Judaism.
It works because at the moment of potential exposure, the goyim duck!
WHAT WE NEED IS PROPER, UNHINDERED ARCHAEOLOGICAL INVESTIGATION, THE TRUTH
In many countries it is a cime to investigate, to even discuss, the deaths of Jews during WW2. Until proper investigation is ALLOWED we can never accept the official version.
If 600,000 is the true figure, instead of 6,000,000, it is still a tragedy, but not so great compared with Russian deaths at the hands of the Bolsheviks leaders, who were mainly Jews. No race/country was blameless in the 20th century. The least guilty were the Palestinians.
Jewish demands for special treatment (because of the holocaust) has caused anti-semitism throughout the world. Breathtaking double standards apply to Israel, eg land seizure on the West Bank, and nuclear weapons, In my opinion sensible Jews should make themselves heard and allow normal academic investigation of events that have had such a great effect on all our lives.
Can anyone here speak to the various operations (Bloodstone) in which Nazi crimes were intentionally exaggerated through various psy-ops, particularly with false documents, particularly just after the war. This is supposedly among the most guarded secrets of the government… and Russia was complicit in these various exercises of propaganda…
Funny how Hart tries to preempt criticism by playing the victim in the very first sentence: “….me being reviled and condemned.” Same thing the tribe does by singing the same old holocaust victimhood song.
For a clear and critical analysis of the age old SOS problem and a God fearing and all powerful Christian response to it one would do well to examine the stunning new book Synagogue Rising: A Catholic Worldview of Anti-Christian Judaism and Counterrevolutionary Resistance. http://www.catholicactionresourcecenter.com/synagoguerising.htm and http://www.synagoguerising.com
James B. Phillips
As an American child I was repeatedly subject to the terrifying stories of the German Holocaust of the innocent Jewish people, in school, movies, and tv, culminating in the epic Schindler’s List.
I never heard a single word about the Bolshevik massacre of between 30 and 50 million Russians until doing my own, adult research, where the Bolsheviks leadership was 90% Jewish.
So Mr. Hart, which story is more accurate: that elite Jews, while controlling all relevant finance and media in the US and Europe for 100 years, were the irrational targets of an insane Hitler regime with the resulting millions gassed and incinerated, or that Jews are the champion mass murderers in European history (only exceeded by Mao)?
Read the words of a top shelf journalist who was in London, Moscow, Berlin in the 1930′s: Douglas Reed. Then branch out to Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together. Then figure out who Bernard Baruch was, and his place in history. Then keep doing your “job”, and enjoy the fan mail from an audience more educated than you are.
Well said Matthew…..it’s gotta be true.
OK Alan – suppose 1 million were “exterminated” as you want to claim. Is it a tragedy? Sure, most Jews are innocent and brainwashed from birth by the Rabbis although these days more and more are escaping this mind control. Is it the greatest tragedy ever told? Hardly. It is used as a cudgel against the goy to justify stealing Palestinian land that does not belong to them and to which they have no legal claim.
As a contrast I would like to point out the the Bolshevik Jews unleashed a real holocaust on Russia. 40 million plus killed by JEWS. It was especially brutal on Christian and educated Russians. Does the world hold any kind of remembrance of the very real horror? NO!
Furthermore over 100 million gentiles were killed in WI and WII. 100 million goy sacrificed by the Zionist power brokers so the Zionist Jews could steal Palestine. WWI wrested Palestine out of the hands of the Ottoman empire and WWII destroyed Europe as a home for the Jew to justify Zionist goals of stealing Palestine for themselves and filling it with the refugees of Hiltler. The Jewish God is the UN because they caved and gave them a foothold to wage a war of terror against the lawful and peaceful arab inhabitants. That unjust war continues to this day. The US is unwittingly burdened with this crime. Thanks to the Scofield bible most Christians seem to think killing Muslims for the Jews is a good idea and this will lead them to salvation because they are “blessed.” I do not think Yeshua would agree. I don’t see any blessings pouring out on the US since 1948. “Beware the leaven of the Pharisees” The reality is we are cursed by the crimes we support. “For it must needs be that sins come of the world but woe unto him by whom the sin cometh.” What goes around comes back around and it wont be pretty as it is not pretty today for a bankrupt nation.
dittos SHed all of this talk totally ignores the massive crimes of the Rev2:9 and Rev 3:9
Synagogue of Satan alas what about the slave trade to America? The Civil Wars I dont think Yahshua was just whistling dixie when he said the following.
, And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31, So that ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the sons of them which killed the prophets.
32, And ye, fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33, Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how can ye escape from the judgment of hell ?
34, Because of this, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35, So that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous one unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the Sanctuary and the altar.
36, Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation(I,E, Race).
Good article. In one of his 9/11 articles, G. Duff made the point that intel is not that concerned with HOW an event occurred, so there is little discussion of how the WTC buildings were brought down. The focus is on WHO and WHY. If we apply that thinking to the Holocaust, then the “HOW” of extermination is not that important, whether it was gassing, starving, overworking, whatever. What does matter is, was there a policy of extermination? I will answer that briefly with Yes, and then 3 phrases: Wannsee Conference, Wannsee Protocol, Wannsee Memorial. People can do their own homework if they want to know more about that.
As for myself, I am not intel, and I figure it’s a miracle if I ever find out the WHO or WHY. So I look at the WHAT, WHEN, WHERE. Those are difficult enough to ascertain. With 9/11, the WHAT is still being debated. What happened, is becoming clearer. How many died on 9/11? Good question.
The bottom line, though, is, to paraphrase what Mr. Hart said: Since when is one holocaust a justification for another?
Well, we know 3 buildings came down, and not by airliner. Where it gets sticky is, how many people died? I don’t know, and I don’t spend all my time figuring that out, as I have a family to take care of. I’m not hung up on any particular theory. Dr. Fetzer’s working on it. As for WHO did it and WHY, it might take a while before we get that part wrapped up. Like OKC on steroids, 9/11 involved cutouts, layers of them.
Incidentally, now that I think about it, Duff’s comment that I referenced, might have been part of one of Dr. Fetzer’s 9/11 articles. I remembered the comment, but not exactly where I saw it. My bad.
Alan love your articles and I am not reviling you but sorry to say the numbers do not add up.
French Jewish historian Dr. Roger Dommergue Polacco de Menasce , wrote in an open letter to Elie Wiesel & Steven Spielberg: “No Sir, you will not find ONE witness who saw 6 million Jews slaughtered. You will not find ONE witness of Zyclon- B- gas chambers to exterminate 1000 or 2000 people at a time, close to the crematoria. See my ‘Shoa Sherlockholmised’ herewith: it is the summary of 20 years study on the subject. The 6-million-gas-chambers myth is an arithmetic and technical nonsense.”
Nakba. The term used for the HOLOCAUST against the Palestinians starting in 1948 and continuing to this day. I seriously doubt the Muslims would ever use such an atrocity to gain money through sympathy. It takes a sick mind to cash in on human misery and suffering.
Or any gentiles for that matter. Do not forget 90% of Palestinian Christians are waiting to go home too languishing in refugee camps.
This is a discredit to this site. Numerous items disproved the holocaust. We had broken the German code and read their daily transmission of deaths and causes; and, the on site representatives of the Red Cross also kept meticulous records of births and deaths (with no genocide and no gassing); and the daily aerial photographs during later period of the war showed no vents for the alleged gas chambers, no lines and no mass of bodies. Numerous scientific studies and investigations refuted claims of gassing and genocide.
The myth of holocaust and six million dead was published during World War One (and before). When Speilburg shows a video shot of a “shower head” in a holocaust related movie, it can be justified because there is such a myth. Even the Jewish/Israeli head of the 9/11 Commission had a specialty of “myths” and the “power of myths’.
Pat Buchanan wrote a major article decades ago pointing out that Jews were relocating many of the truly institutionalized insane from the WWII German camps to the Los Angeles areas and encouraging them to make up false stories about the holocaust (like throwing babies into air to land on pitchforks or burning people alive); and he commented how dangerous and irresponsible that was. This is harmful to humanity because it is truth in history that is the basis for fairness and justice. [Note the irony that the truly institutionalized insane were not killed (when they would have been the first with any murderous intent)—–in the same way that Elie Weisel and his dad when offered the right to await liberation by the Russians or flee with his German captors— and chose to flee with the Germans (hardly a choice for an alleged murderer).
Jewish neoconservatives as a matter of published philosophy believe in telling lies to the rest of us; and that is what we have today: fake news, orchestrated events blamed on others to support their agenda for war and profit and power. And they recognize their historic mission is to destroy everything—as they are the great destroyers.
Noam Chomsky says we do not want to know who did 9/11 or who killed JFK (because he knows where the evidence points); and has said repeatedly in the past that the holocaust is about telling as many lies persistently as one can and hopes that some stick.
AntiZion, by William Grimstad, (free) dispassionately and without rancor chronicles the views of luminaries throughout history on Jews, including Jews and non Jews, and many view them as the biggest liars and fraudsters on earth; or views consistent with those told above. Example: Napoleon, their great friend, said humanity needed to be protected from them, that ordinary laws were insufficient, and that they were not real citizens of any state. Expulsion and torture is a large part of Jewish history following extreme arrogations of wealth and power, when it is reversed. This site knows the truth on 9/11 (and the holocaust).
“…and many view them (Jews) as the biggest liars and fraudsters on earth…” ??
Gee I wonder why? Could it have anything to do with their synagogue-approved license to LIE to the goyim known as the ‘Kol Nidre’ prayer? This nullifies any oaths, promises, etc they may have sworn to during the previous year. I’m not making this up. It’s fact.
So when Alan says: “I wonder how many of those…blah blah blah…have ever met and talked with Jewish survivors of the Nazi holocaust. I have and I’ll quote just one of them…”
I have to wonder if this guy ain’t using his God given right as a Jew to tell an untruth…just like proven LIAR Elie Weasel. There’s no business like Shoah business ya know.
Reminds me of the incubator story that was used to start war with Iraq. Maybe its a standard practice to use vulgar, graphic, and seriously disturbing stories to get the old heart strings going.
The fallacy of proving the holocaust happened because Germans said so, as quoted by Mr. Hart is that the translations from German are about as honest as the translation from Farsi that Iran “will wipe Israel off the map”. The actual verified translation is “the zionist regime will disappear from the pages of time”
The German word generally translated as “exterminate” ” (ausrotten also means to “root out” (from Latin[ extermināre to drive away, from terminus boundary] FromOnline Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper . {
This was the Final Solution to the Jewish problem – to forcibly to remove Jews from the German territories. And remember this policy was conceived long after the start of the war and really long after “Judea declared war on Germany” in 1933 – launching a worldwide Jewish economic boycott of Germany (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_Declares_War_on_Germany).
It is only because the Germans have been so demonized and made into insane monsters by the historians of the Victors that we can be lead to believe this meant to kill them all.
It takes a lot of study of original documents to begin to understand how much of a deception WWII was and continues to be.
One example: In William Shirer’s book, the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”, once the “Bible” of WWII history , the author says that at one meeting with his Generals Hitler got so angry he fell down to the floor and “chewed the carpet”. This to show what a complete lunatic Hitler was. As it turns out “to chew the carpet” is a German slang expression meaning to get very angry. However in Shirer’s shameless propaganda history he provides a literal meaning to the words.
Why is my comment awaiting moderation after 2 days??
“Spielberg’s cabal doesn’t want you to see these “survivor” interviews. That’s why they banned me (Eric Hunt) from Stanford University after sharing these, along with Irene Zisblatt’s criminal “testimony” with the world.
“Holohoax Survivors Who Tell the Truth” has really hit a nerve. It’s shocking to hear Auschwitz inmates tell about their elaborate stage, with curtain rings and a grand piano, where they had plays and other musical performances. It’s shocking to see video of children in Theresenstadt juxtoposed with a woman telling about costumed children’s plays, in their Auschwitz block, with beautiful murals painted on the walls. According to the official Holocaust narrative, all children were immediately gassed upon arrival.
“Testimony” such as this is extremely important to cast doubt on the “factory of death” Holocaust promoters push.
Auschwitz and Buchenwald inmates speak about being paid for their work in special currency, using their currency in camp cantinas and at the camp movie theater, receiving and sending postcards, and playing in well organized soccer tournaments.”
****http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8UmMuRSSw
Hitler was not a real Christian. He was a half Jew occultist pagan who used many truths about the Jews to stir up righteous indignation against the elite Jews so as to take power under the false premise of saving the Germans from the “Jews”. Hitler was controlled opposition. Roosevelt was a Jew. Churchill and Hitler were half Jews and Stalin was a Jew. See, they controlled all sides of the war to bring about the second phase in destroying white Christendom. Hitler was on their side all along and this is what many do not understand. He facilitated the destruction of Christian Germany but he was not overtly anti Christian to the masses. He facilitated the Zionist Jewish goals for a foothold in Palestine as a place for a future world government through the transfer agreement of 38 while he built their infrastructure and rounded the rest up for transfer in the camps.The holocaust is mostly all a lie, a lie that has been used to facilitate a Jewish world goverment while obtaining false sympathy from European Christians while instilling a false guilt complex among their greatest foes to boot. Today, This lie is akin to calling a car wreck that killed two people a 1000 car pileup caused by mad lunatic who then set off a bomb murdering everyone within 20 miles.The so called holocaust is still used for the same purposes today as we can see the “Jews” use of it to justify their slaughter of Muslim and Christian Pals in the ME.
Why we white Christian peoples should even being entertaining this nonsense is beyond me. It is not like the so called Jews didnt murder over 66 million of our people in Russia alone while admitting they have murdered 100′s of millions of our people by starting practically every war over the last 500 years!
Sheesh..to put it in “Jewish” terms “Holocaust-Schmallocaust”
The problem with Alan’s assertions is that he offers truth and honesty to a political and social struggle for survival and conquest. In the history of the world this has never been successful, and despite the fantasy of “modern” civilization, Constitutional Law, International Law, Human Rights, and a hundred other such things, it will never come to pass. The world’s resources are shrinking just as population is continuing to grow. The water levels are rising, no matter what you believe is the cause, and mass immigration to survive is going to occur. You will have a choice some day if you live long enough, and it will be to line up on the side of whoever offers you membership and protection, and truth be damned in that. It’s going to be just like John Candy said in JFK: “Kennedy’s as dead as that crab meat. The government’s still breathing. Now you wanna line up with a dead man?” — Or look at the fantasy another way: Some high official in the Allied command says to Hitler: “We’re going to beat you because God is on our side.” — And Hitler replied: “You come at me with your beads and prayer books and I’ll bring my tanks and guns, and we’ll see who wins.” — And so, is Alan expecting the Zionists to play fair? To accept his offer for everyone to fully accept the holocaust in return for them dropping the phony anti-semite charges? Well, no, they won’t unless they get a much better deal, given that they’re holding a winning hand and collecting lots of real money. And that’s the name of that tune.
I don’t think Alan is implying that the Zionists will ever play fair dalethorn….rather he is saying that the starting point is for Obama and (hopefully) Hagel to stand firm and move the dialogue in a direction that will change the consciousness of the American population who have been subject to Zionist conditioning for 70 years. That applies in virtually all countries, not just the USA by the way.
Actually I empathize with Alan. I spent 2 days in Dachau in the 1960′s. Unfortunately for people who like to have someone on their side, I empathize with nearly everyone. I have a pewter ’60′ hanging in my car I got at the Maltz museum. I’ve been accorded honorary Jew status during my years in Encino and Beverly Hills. Yep, been a lot of places. Even Carto’s IHR. I empathize with him too. Most people will never see the other guy’s point of view. I can see nearly everyone’s, as long as they don’t derive their passion from blind ignorance or allow themselves to be compromised by hate – the kind of hate that’s self-destructive. But that’s empathy, and then there’s reality, or practicality. We are animals after all, and our highest programming is survival – the will to live. The purpose of life is to live. I am unable because of the combination of my ancestry and culture in America to be a separatist such as many or most Jews are. Perhaps it is more than just convenient or beneficial for Jews to not assimilate – perhaps it’s necessary. I don’t know. But their particular brand of separatism in America and elsewhere makes them a target of suspicion, if not envy and hate. That’s not a bias, just an observation. And regarding the holocaust – what exactly do you think concentration camps would look like on the day they’re opened by the victors, after the losers had been losing for quite a while and sending fewer and fewer rations and supplies to the camps? Would they look like Andersonville or several other Civil War POW camps in the U.S.? — I have never, ever read a discussion of that. For example, if the Germans were not exterminating their prisoners, what would you expect those camps to look like when no food and supplies were provided for a time? I’ve always wondered. In the U.S., except for a handful of Civil War examples (rarely ever broadcast), we have never had to deal with that question.
Alan, shame on you for suggesting commentators at Veterans Day who don’t believe a Holocaust happened to the Jews are Zionists assets. Perhaps you have not seen the comments from some of these people including myself about the Mossad did 911 and how we despise the stranglehold Jewish Zionists have on the United States.
From the article:
He told me, and I believed him without reservation, that some of his Jewish “comrades” in Auschwitz were assigned the task of removing the corpses from the gas chambers and transferring them to incinerators for burning. He added that the smoke and fumes from the chimneys of the incinerators could be seen and smelled all over the camp.
Brian: That’s ridiculous, scientific experts have reported they would have died from the gas in the room and from carrying the bodies. Alan you need to read the detailed analysis by experts on the subject.
Regarding the Goebbels diaries, from David Irving, essentially called one of the best historians by the Jewish New York Times, article titled Goebbels’ Diaries & the Final Solution excerpt from the article:
Nothing in Goebbels’s diaries changes this situation. As Irving (1996: 388)7 observes, “Nowhere do the diary’s 75,000 pages refer to an explicit order by Hitler for the murder of the Jews.” On the contrary: we find repeated and consistent reference only to expulsion and deportation.
Another excerpt from the article:
Again, particularly so in this case, as many traditionalist writers are anxious to portray Goebbels’s language—which ranges from benign to ambiguous—in as ominous a light as possible.
Read the entire article to find out the true nature of the Goebbels’ Diaries.
Alan I could provide a vast amount of evidence which clearly indicates the Holocaust is a lie, the people died from disease and starvation, I already done it at Veterans Today several times and I’m not going to do it again for somebody who indirectly calls me a Zionist asset. I don’t think you’re a Zionist asset for promoting the official Jewish version of the Holocaust I just think you’re extremely uneducated about what really happened in the intern camps.
As I mentioned in your recent article please show me one autopsy of anyone who died form being gas in the intern camps and please show me one German document seized by the Allies which shows the Germans had a plan to gas the Jews and exterminate them, you won’t be able to provide them.The documents show the plan was to force them out of Europe if they refused to leave.
Alan, what would have happened at the Nierenberg trials if Christian Germans accused Jewish people of gassing Christians Germans to death, yet the lawyers and the expert witnesses for the Christian Germans couldn’t come up with one autopsy showing a Christian German died form being gassed and they couldn’t find one document out of a large number of documents showing the Jews had a plan to exterminate Christian Germans?
In a real court of law the case against the Germans would have been thrown out of court and the judge would have berated the prosecutors from bringing a bogus case to the court.
NO AUTOPSIES OF PEOPLE GASSED TO DEATH.
Oops! Should be Nuremberg trials.
By the way, from the scholarly revisionist Robert Faurrison:
He started answering by saying how Churchill, in his memoirs, had denounced the Nazi atrocities. I pointed out that never had Churchill mentioned the “gas chambers” and that such was the case as well with Eisenhower, de Gaulle and others of their stature.
Dr. Faurisson: I could cite the case of Jean-Claude Pressac. For years, that protégé of the Klarsfeld couple had presumed to state he’d discovered proof of the “Nazi gas chambers’” existence. A book of his, in 1993-1994, was laden with praise throughout the big media. In 1994 I replied with a booklet that earned me new criminal proceedings. Happily I got Pressac subpoenaed to appear at the trial. This was in May 1995, in Paris. His collapse under examination was spectacular. He never got back up again. To her credit, Valérie Igounet, a French historian hostile to revisionism, reproduced in her 2000 book Histoire du négationnisme en France a sort of act of surrender signed by Pressac. The latter, in effect, had ended up admitting that the dossier on the German concentration camps was “rotten” – his word, that – with too many lies. He even added that a definitively “rotten” dossier had been got up around wartime suffering that was all too real and – in his own phrase – that dossier was “bound for the rubbish bins of history”.
You’re well aware that Raul Hilberg, at first (in 1961)?, had the nerve to write that Hitler had given two orders to exterminate the Jews.
He added that this extermination had been carefully organised from top to bottom within the chain of command. However, in 1983, under the revisionists’ pressure, he had to admit (and later, in 1985 at the first Zündel trial in Toronto, confirmed under oath)? that there hadn’t been, after all, either an order, a plan or a budget. Then he fell back on the most pitiful of explanations: according to his new analysis, all had been done without an order and without a plan through “an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus-mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy”, the bureaucracy of the Third Reich. I call that “invoking the workings of the (Jewish)? Holy Spirit”.
Brian…..what about Himmler’s recorded speech at Posen, which you don’t discuss above ?
What about no autopsies showing one person died from being gassed were provided at the Nuremberg trials?
Excerpt from an article:
Browning testified that the Posen speech contained explicit references to exterminating the Jews. Historian David Irving testified, however, that those portions of the original manuscript of the Posen speech which dealt with “extermination” had been tampered with; they were written in a different typescript using different carbon paper and were numbered in pencil. Irving also pointed out that the Israelis had Himmler’s private diary but refused to allow any historians to have access to it. If Himmler’s diary supported the “Holocaust”, Irving said, the Israelis would be the first to release it.
I think that Alan is just making a reasoned argument that some of the more vehement commentary on VT may ‘unwittingly’ play into Zionist hands. Personally Brian, I wouldn’t really include your comments in that category, but when one sees some of the stuff that goes up on the boards here, that possibility is at least worth calm consideration from us all.
We have always had problems with shills seeding the site with material that could be quoted with the usual, ‘look at the types of people who do to VT’. This shilling and seeding happens on websites all over the Net. The Zios have an industrial machine set up to do it..
That is simply all he is refering to. We have covered this problem for a decade.