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WANTED – A psychiatric diagnosis of Nazi holocaust denial
Controversy or Insanity?
WANTED – A psychiatric diagnosis of Nazi holocaust denial
by Alan Hart
While I was reading some of the responses on various web sites to my last post (Understanding the real significance TODAY of the Nazi holocaust), the following question occurred to me. Does it really matter HOW Jews were exterminated in Nazi concentration camps? Even if you chose to believe that gas chambers were not part and parcel of the Nazi extermination programme, there is irrefutable evidence that Jews were shot, hanged, burned, injected and starved to death and, also, that many died from diseases that were only terminal because of the conditions of their incarceration.
That’s why I stand by my view that holocaust denial (and most aspects of holocaust revisionism) is evil on a par with the commissioning of the slaughter and the slaughtering itself. But repeating myself on that score is not the purpose of this short article.
It is to request that an eminent psychiatrist or two (or several) come forward to explain what goes on in the minds of holocaust deniers.
I can understand without assistance why many Jews deny the Nakba, Zionism’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine. They believe, wrongly in my view, that coming to terms with this truth of history is not in their own best interests. (In my view this Jewish refusal to acknowledge the terrible wrong done to the Palestinians by Zionism in the name of all Jews is the prime obstacle to peace based, as it must be, on justice for the Palestinians and security for all).
But why would anybody want to deny the Nazi holocaust when there really is so much irrefutable evidence that many Jews were exterminated? Some people apparently have a need to deny it. What is that need? What drives it? What do holocaust deniers think there is to be gained from and by denial?
Something else that puzzles me is why some holocaust deniers feel compelled to assert that I am Jewish when I am NOT. I quite often use the term “the Gentile me” to signal that fact. Obviously they have a need not to believe me.
And how about this… There are some holocaust deniers who assert that I am not what my writing (book and articles) and public speaking prove me to be – a passionate and fierce critic of Zionism’s colonial enterprise. In their view I am a clever propagandist for Zionism. In a rant on my own web site (you can see it in the comments below my last post), Kevin Boyle put it this way: “You are a gatekeeper. A covert supporter of the enemy that will destroy us all. You are worse than the transparent liars because you pose as one of us, an true enemy of Zionist.” (Kevin, your English needs correcting. I presume you mean “a true enemy of Zionism.”)
Are they simply crazy or what?
Unless they are Zionist assets, they have no understanding of the fact that holocaust denial only helps to reinforce Zionism in its evil ways.
In conclusion for now I have a suggestion for all holocaust deniers. Visit the BBC’s web archive Witnessing the Holocaust. (As my readers know, I don’t give it a capital H).
The two most moving and powerful archived pieces are the original eye witness reports broadcast by Edward Ward from the Buchenwald concentration camp on 1 April 1945, and Richard Dimbleby from the Belsen concentration camp on 19 April 1945,
I will not be at all surprised if some holocaust deniers assert that those two very well respected and much admired BBC correspondents were lying and that I am stupid for believing them.
On reflection it seems to me that some holocaust deniers, especially those who are driven by rabid anti-Semitism, are as deluded in their own way as Netanyahu and all support the Zionist state of Israel right or wrong are in their way. They deserve each other and I say, quoting Mercutio in Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet – “a plague on both your houses.”
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David Cole (an honest American Jew) investigates Auschwitz & uncovers myths:
**********http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1004&play=100#watch
Mr Hart – I think you will find that the origins of questioning jewish accounts of the so called ‘Holocaust’ goes back to real events following the FIRST World War. The doubt began with some observant people who had rather long memories.
There is an interesting book now on sale entitled something like ‘The first Holocaust’. This work details how jewish leaders in Northern America published a series of interlocking articles in the New York Times and newspapers across America during the early 1920s – making accusations that “Six Million Jews” had been murdered during the fighting in the First World War.
These articles horrified the Embassies of European countries that were involved in the fighting – from both the allied and German sides. Fortunately the casualty records kept by military authorities in those days were extremely accurate and correct down to the last bandage issued. They were able to comprehensively rebut the claims as being completely untrue.
It transpired that the articles had in reality been an attempt to trick Americans into donating money to help the imaginary survivors of this imaginary massacre. The money was actually being raised to fund the jewish diaspora in Poland – and to equip the communist Red Army in it’s attempt to enslave Europe.
The people who had followed these events could perhaps be forgiven for their scepticism 25 years later!
I have no doubt that some jews died in the Second World War – just the same as did people from every other faith and race in far greater numbers. The end of the war saw the extremely successful campaign by the Royal Navy to prevent food getting into Germany to the extent that they could not feed their own soldiers on the front line – let alone camp detainees.
Jewish leaders outside of Germany did not help the plight of jews within Germany – after they declared war on Germany in 1933 – and urged all jews everywhere to attack the Germans and to boycott their economy. Jews may not have been interned at all if it were not for this. This is all a matter of historical record.
My revelations as to the Holocaust hoax came not from simply reading collections of information from “deniers” (which is such an absurd term). My husband, now deceased, had been a doctor and scientist. So many dates so many years ago were spent at university libraries as he taught me to help him do literature searches, much more time consuming than today with the internet. That is where I went and found much literature on typhus and medical issues related to war. Needless to say, medical articles on such topics have little to do with racism or anti-semitism. Biologists still class us all together as the same species. In medical research at that time, Typhus was one of the major issues of concern, not just in WWII but WWI as well, not simply for prisoners of war but for soldiers and the civilians as well. Did you know that typhus is what took down Napoleon in his march to Moscow? It was a major cause of death in WWI. Such infectious diseases have always gone rampant during wars due to hygiene issues, dislocations of peoples, destruction of infrastructure which includes farms, factories and food processing centers, supply routes such as railroads, etc, The majority of those 650,000 Americans who died fighting the Civil War actually did not really die fighting. They died from diseases and starvation. So entering WWII, there was intense effort to find vaccines and treatments. All that bizarre “human” experimentation Mendele did? Its there explained in the medical literature published at the time. Typhus was never a major issue in this country but it most certainly was for many many centuries in eastern Europe and western Russia, even in the absence of wars.
As to the lack of autopsies, I searched the medical books to learn what typhus and tuberculosis does to the body and what cyanide poisoning does. Go learn about that and then go back to all of those pictures of the dead at the camps taken by the Allied troops. You will not need autopsies because those pictures speak a thousand words.
Few of us living today have a clue of what ancestors endured because DDT eliminated the epidemics of such diseases when we were but infants. At that time, the Germans were on the forefront dealing with those issues far advanced to us. There was a point I realized that all those showers, shaving of heads, delousing of clothes etc. reflected the high care and regard of the Germans – not the reverse. Now as you insinuated, putting the Jews in the camps exposed them to the typhus. Possibly you are correct but possibly the opposite is closer to the truth. I would first remind you that they initially went to camps in the process of being deported to Palestine. The “final solution” was not devised until 1939 when immigration was closed. So possibly the Jews in fact, bought the typhus into the camps with them. The reason the Jews were forced into the ghettos in Warsaw was actually a quarantine because a typhus epidemic was already occurring. Fairly or not, Jews were associated with being unclean and carrying lice (the source of typhus). You likely have already read accounts of Patton’s regarding their hygiene. If not, check them out. I read another medical report by a doctor discussing adversions to bathing he experienced. These may be nothing but unfair racism but I doubt it. I suspect rather it more about different groups from different rural areas and is why the Zionists were picky as to who went to Palestine and who did not.
My last point to make is that the truth has nothing to do with racism or anti-semitism. It is to be found, not invented, what ever it is.
Thanks for that Mary. I feel though that Alan is set in his ways and is frothing at the mouth in a way I never thought possible with him before. His latest article is more of the same. Calling for us to see a psychiatrist. He has alienated his demography I feel by these revealing articles. Nobody can expect those they call insane to buy his work.
Lest we forget:
Lest We Forget–Holocaust Liar Herman Rosenblatt–”I believed it was real in my mind’
***************http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HPzxTQ3t1wU#!
Hart,
Please tell us all why we white/European and kinsfolk people (Christians) should care about the already proven HOLOHOAX when the Jews have mass murdered us to the tune of 1 BILLION people since 1860?
Think that sounds crazy? Well, STOP the CENSORING of my posts so people might examine the evidence!
By Pastor V.S. Herrell
“Every white schoolchild in America has heard of the so-called Jewish Holocaust, in which millions of Jews were supposed to have been murdered by white Christian Germans during the Jew-instigated World War II. Yet, few, if any, could tell you of the true holocaust, or holocausts, of the last two centuries perpetrated by Jews against the White Race, which has resulted in the death of over one billion white people, as we shall prove hereafter” http://www.israelect.com/ChurchOfTrueIsrael/white-holocast.html
I recall some years ago that an American hospital equipment manufacturer claimed that it had invented a device that could detect ‘RACISTS’.
A scull cap that was used in EEC brain-wave monitoring could be used in conjunction with photographs of the various human races to detect those RACISTS wherever and whoever they may be! It involved observing the area of the brain that was thought to affect group survival traits. Some people – usually men – are naturally more inclined toward their own ‘same-group’ survival than others. This probably goes back as a group self-defence mechanism necessary for genetic survival. These same people were nonetheless labeled by the machine as RACISTS.
Interestingly sexual perverts and criminals have no empathy at all toward ‘same group’ survival whatsoever. (This might well be why the cabal crew routinely promotes such people to positions of power and authority over us Gentiles in modern society).
Just when everybody was getting excited about the new device a young law student pointed out that if ‘RACISTS’ could be proven to act the way they do out of a pre-programmed natural default – (i.e. a natural, physical condition) then they would need to receive massively reduced sentences for crimes that involved ‘racism’ – rather than increased ones as they do today. At that point the story was pulled and reportage of it fell silent.
What a surprise.
And if America is to be a great nation this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania!
Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado!
Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California!
But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia!
Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee!
Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.
And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, “Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!”
Who will this is not true?
What can one say? I have always been interested in history, and have often questioned the veracity of official history since my high school days in the 60s. The “Holocaust” as taught in high school (by a WWII vet) was the standard fare. My teacher challenged us to read all about Hitler’s “hate” in “Mein Kampf”. I was probably the only one that tried. My 17 year old brain gave up on it half way through – BOR-ing.
My journey started in the 1980s, when a school teacher named Jim Keegstra was charged and subsequently convicted, in a Canadian court, of a “hate crime”. His “crime” was to tell his class that they should question the official version of the “Holocaust”. Imagine, a teacher convicted of telling students to question the official version of history. Keegstra made no attempt to incite students to violence. My concern was not that he believed or disbelieved. My concern was that a court had essentially convicted a man of thought crimes.
Then came Ernst Zundel. He was charged for publishing false news, under an obscure Canadian law. He dared to re-publish a pamphlet “Did 6 Million Really Die?” Given that I knew newspapers and TV publish false news on a daily basis, I wondered how and why a charge like this would be pursued by the government. After all, governments themselves are the leaders of publishing false news. Zundel made no statements promoting hatred of violence against Jews. Again my concern was not what Zundel thought, it was the fact that he, and by extension me, was being told what to think.
It was at that time I was introduced to the term “Holocaust denier” through the news media. The term puzzled me. To pose a question – “Did 6 Million Really Die?”- turned into denial. Many of the citizens of Quebec, at that time, openly stated that the official version of France’s defeat in North America was false, and comments toward the English were quite derogatory. In fact, their school history books taught something else. No one was being charged with publishing false news or “hate”.
During Zundel’s trial, it became obvious that the prosecution’s star witnesses were being demolished by Zundel’s defence team. The “who’s who” of the official version, Raul Hilberg,, was being shredded and completely dis-credited on cross examination.
In spite of the evidence of Zundel’s defence witnesses, which included a former Auschwitz inmate, Faurisson, Leuchter, and a photographer Detleib Felderer, Zundel was found guilty. It became clear to me at that time, that in “emotional” trial matters, evidence didn’t matter. More on that trial can be found here. http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/falsenews.toc.html
Since then I have found massive amounts of information on “the Holocaust” that would make the official version questionable. If, in criminal matters, a crime cannot be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, then a conviction cannot be rendered. That is where the official version is today, Mr. Hart.
The official version contains now proven falsehoods such as skin lampshades, shrunken heads, soap from fat, death by steaming, and death by disintegration. If these events didn’t happen, then 6 million could not have died. According to you, Mr. Hart if I don’t believe any of these, I am a denier.
Who needs the psychiatric help Mr. Hart?
Try this on for size. http://onethirdoftheholocaust.com/
I think it provides reasonable doubt.
I’m Baaack.
Mr. Hart, are those that doubted Rubin Carter’s conviction of murder called deniers? How about the Birmingham Six? Were their supporters called deniers?
There are literally thousands of court cases throughout the world where people have been wrongfully convicted through false and/or manufactured evidence. No one is called a denier for questioning the veracity of the evidence.
In the case of the “Holocaust”, there has never been a criminal trial. There has been a Stalinist-type show trial, based on a protocal negotiated in London, that suspended normal rules of evidence, and presumed guilt. All, or virtually all, of the “confessions” were achieved through torture. The official version of the “holocaust” is built on this house of cards.
There are many articles here: http://www.cwporter.com/
Porter is very politically incorrect, so be prepared.
Mr. Hart:
What can one say? I have always been interested in history, and have often questioned the veracity of official history since my high school days in the 60s. The “Holocaust” as taught in high school (by a WWII vet) was the standard fare. My teacher challenged us to read all about Hitler’s “hate” in “Mein Kampf”. I was probably the only one that tried. My 17 year old brain gave up on it half way through – BOR-ing.
My journey started in the 1980s, when a school teacher named Jim Keegstra was charged and subsequently convicted, in a Canadian court, of a “hate crime”. His “crime” was to tell his class that they should question the official version of the “Holocaust”. Imagine, a teacher convicted of telling students to question the official version of history. Keegstra made no attempt to incite students to violence. My concern was not that he believed or disbelieved. My concern was that a court had essentially convicted a man of thought crimes.
Then came Ernst Zundel. He was charged for publishing false news, under an obscure Canadian law. He dared to re-publish a pamphlet “Did 6 Million Really Die?” Given that I knew newspapers and TV publish false news on a daily basis, I wondered how and why a charge like this would be pursued by the government. After all, governments themselves are the leaders of publishing false news. Zundel made no statements promoting hatred of violence against Jews. Again my concern was not what Zundel thought, it was the fact that he, and by extension me, was being told what to think.
It was at that time I was introduced to the term “Holocaust denier” through the news media. The term puzzled me. To pose a question – “Did 6 Million Really Die?”- turned into denial. Many of the citizens of Quebec, at that time, openly stated that the official version of France’s defeat in North America was false, and comments toward the English were quite derogatory. In fact, their school history books taught something else. No one was being charged with publishing false news or “hate”.
During Zundel’s trial, it became obvious that the prosecution’s star witnesses were being demolished by Zundel’s defence team. The “who’s who” of the official version, Raul Hilberg,, was being shredded and completely dis-credited on cross examination.
In spite of the evidence of Zundel’s defence witnesses, which included a former Auschwitz inmate, Faurisson, Leuchter, and a photographer Detleib Felderer, Zundel was found guilty. It became clear to me at that time, that in “emotional” trial matters, evidence didn’t matter. More on that trial can be found here. http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/falsenews.toc.html
Since then I have found massive amounts of information on “the Holocaust” that would make the official version questionable. If, in criminal matters, a crime cannot be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, then a conviction cannot be rendered. That is where the official version is today, Mr. Hart.
The official version contains now proven falsehoods such as skin lampshades, shrunken heads, soap from fat, death by steaming, and death by disintegration. If these events didn’t happen, then 6 million could not have died. According to you, Mr. Hart if I don’t believe any of these, I am a denier.
Who needs the psychiatric help Mr. Hart?
Try this on for size. http://onethirdoftheholocaust.com/
I think it provides reasonable doubt.
Irrational people do not so much question the Holocaust happened, they question anyone who does not BELIEVE. Anyone who questions the Allied version of history are Nazis, Fascists, Holocaust deniers & pathological. In other words heretics & traitors to THE TRUTH the way the victors see THE TRUTH. They must be jailed for denying THE TRUTH, institutionalized for some pathology of not seeing THE TRUTH or drugged because of some chemical imbalance that does not allow them to see THE TRUTH.
Rational people do not so much question the “holocaust” but question if the Allies at the Nuremberg Trials of 1946 have made their case. Tens of thousands of deutschen people where prosecuted under the Nuremberg trials. Many where either tortured to death or simply hanged. As each year goes by, the Allies version of history, that convicted these people is being REVISED by court historians & Shoah experts.
FOR EXAMPLE: The Hitler plan to exterminate the Jews is now REVISED by holocaust expert like Raul Hilberg to “not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus, mind-reading by a far-flung bureaucracy.” The shrunken heads, lampshades, bone ashtrays & bars of soap etc. paraded in the Nuremberg court rooms as proof of atrocities is now REVISED as false evidence. The Auschwitz figure of 4.1 million “gassings” is now REVISED to 1.1 million. The film evidence of gassed bodies is now REVISED to starvation & typhus victims. etc. Ad nauseam.
The witnesses, the Allies, over the years have become unreliable & therefore their testimony has become unreliable. In a court room it is not the burden of the defense to prove innocence but to prove that DEFENDANT HAS NOT BEEN PROVED GUILTY. How many innocent deutschen people where unjustly convicted by unreliable testimonies?
Alan – With all of 20th century Europe being literate why not publish a list of names of Holocaust victims and their geographic places of origin. This could easily be cross checked and rendered as fact.
One other question Sir. How many of the Jews expelled from Spain in 1492 were Zionists?
Ithink I’ve been pretty unique in pointing out that while we have all these testimonies from Jews who were there Speakers pass through the cities of the US- have beeon doing so for years- where are the non-Jews? For all these speakers and witnesses, why is that I never hear from a single person who is not Jewish? Great pains were made pointing out that Hitler killed millions of assorted Slavs, Gypsies, gays and other undesirables. Where are their testimonies?
I don’t think that Orthodox court historians even claim that there was any “death camps” in Germany, but they used to. What self-respecting German would want Jewish corpse smoke stinking up the Fatherland? Quite some time ago, the claim was that the death camps were in Poland. We all know there were camps. But not all the camps were death camps. Camp sites in Poland might well have been fabricated (gas chambers, that is) as pro-Soviet, anti-German propaganda. Katyn forest? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre Not long ago, that was blamed on the Nazis, but now that history has been erased. No record in Wikipedia anyway that it had ever been blamed on the Germans by you-know-who.
I think it’s clear though that the Germans killed countless Jews in Poland and Russia- killed them just where they found them. And of course they did that to lots of Russians and Poles too. Why would Germany (efficient and fastidious as they were) capture all these Jews, put them on trains and then in camps if they were only going to kill them anyway? Think of transportation and food costs. Hart himself pointed out that date of 1943 with what Goebbels was threatening at that time- and they’d supposedly not even begun to gas them yet! The war ended in spring 1945! They’d have had a very tough time gassing and disposing even a million corpses in less than 2 years- especially if all this dirty business was done in camps!
In places like France few Jews were killed, and that’s probably true of the rest of Western Europe. A civilized atmosphere had to be maintained- if only for PR purposes. Why would you allow the occupied to see you murder? I don’t think there’s a great deal of arguement on that- and it was likely those Jews who were shipped to camps. Eastern Euro Jews were just killed where they stood, it was only Russians and Poles who’d have to deal with corpse-littered countrysides- and isn’t that where all the commies were coming from?
Then there is the scientific particulars of gas chambers- not easy technology, especially if you are trying to do it on mass scale. Hart like many others must like that gassing story so much that is simply must be hung on to despite evidence to the contrary…
Oh well. It’s a period of history that will be endlessly debated but never concluded.
Zionists are the biggest Holocaust deniers imaginable.
The lie about the 6 million,organized extermination,was already there right after ww2.
Right there and then some European Jews started telling the truth,my grandmother among them.
The official holocaust lie was carried by ADL,Israel and anybody who profited from it.
Jews questioning the official version were demonized and left Judaism because of this.
As long as Jews refuse to face not only what really happened before the holocaust,but also during and after,the 6 million extermination lie will ultimately damage Jews more than non-Jews.
Israeli’s have no clue what the holocaust is,any questioning the official version carries heavy punishment.
Most older European jews know very well that the official version is a lie,shutting up being their only option.
Mr. Hart has been living in Israel for many years,had acces to many mayor players in Israel.
He knows the nuances far better than most commenters here ,who read books and parrot the results.
Try talking to ww2 survivors as well.
Mr. Hart means well,he’s someone trying to connect people,instead of ripping them apart.
In the end ,Jews were singled out for being “Jewish” and mostly handed over to the Nazi’s by their neighbours,put in camps and many died,with the Zionists collaborating enthousiatically.
That’s the main story line,because a persecution like that in Europe hasn’t been seen since the Inquisitions and the witch hunts.
And the unnuanced ,hatefull way most commenters express themselves ,will make a repeat of such a persecution very likely.
Only be aware you are on the menu of the bankers as well,this time.
Direct your hate at the perpetrators of the alleged crimes,not at the ones trying to find solutions in a more nuanced way.
He lives in “Israel”?
As a confirmed “Truth Seeker” for at least 40 years now, it gives me great pleasure to see the quantity and quality of other (what I prefer to call) anti-Zionist’s arguments here in this marvelous VT forum. I do sincerely hope that Alan Hart will take these comments and facts that are presented here to heart… pun intended. Some have noted above that this ‘era’ seems to coming to a close. Oh, if that were only so. I can only hope, but what gives me pause is that some truly influential and patriotic Americans have been pointing out these facts about the Zionist plague on humanity for a long, long time. Charles Lindburgh, Henry Ford, just to name two amongs many others, yet here we stand, still under their vile and unscrupulous control. It will take more than words to undo the wrongs they have done, but words, nonetheless, help to ease the pain. I am a proud holocaust denier and anti-Zionist. I suggest that whenever you hear the term “anti-semite” you immediately interject “don’t you really mean anti-Zionist,” so we can at least begin to change that misconception. The phrase itself is so wrong on so many levels.
Peace.
Here’s my “diagnosis”: Declaring the Truth is more important than telling the Pharisees what they want to hear and/or allowing the lies they use to batter us proliferate!
The Bush crime family and the banks enjoyed the war as much as the children of Goebbels family, jews that made a billion off the wars. In fact the jewish banks and jewish corporations were the war.
As British General Horrocks put it in the World at War “what happened to the Jews was just a side-show”.
Kevin Boyle put it this way: “You are a gatekeeper. A covert supporter of the enemy that will destroy us all. You are worse than the transparent liars because you pose as one of us, an true enemy of Zionist.” (Kevin, your English needs correcting. I presume you mean “a true enemy of Zionism.”) – that’s just the kind of supercilious remark I expect from a Jew Mr Hartstein as it’sobviously a typo.
Mental illness is a Jewish issue that we must address
*******http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/18638/mental-illness-is-a-jewish-issue-that-we-must-address/
And — What are the odds? — minutes ago I photoshopped a nice cabal logo:
*******http://criticomblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/system-inc-very-limited-liability-company.jpg
Lewis Carroll might have been thinking about “Holocaust” believers when he wrote:
“There’s no use trying,” said Alice, “one can’t believe impossible things.”
“I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen.
“When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day.
Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
– Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland