The Vatican and the German Holocaust (video)
Jeff Rense and Gordon Duff Discuss the Pope and the Destruction of Germany
By Gordon Duff with Jeff Rense
The video below was done by a reader. The discussion is a five minute segment of a recent Jeff Rense broadcast.
The subject, the German Holocaust, one we believe Pope Benedict XVI was planning to release documentation on, this and the real records of how the Third Reich actually managed their ethnic cleansing and slave labor operations, are discussed openly
There is no “Duty, Honor and Country” without truth.
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If the Pope had anything useful to say on this topic then he should have said it while he could with authority, in office, regardless of the consequences, and made sure the key documentation was released also, one way or another. Not to have done so (assuming the case) is useless, and there is not likely to be another chance.
Excellent interview by VT Senior Editor Gordon Duff who rips back the curtain and explains the mysterious resignation of the Pope and places this event in proper historical context. Often the oppressed becomes the oppressor and this is what happened in Germany at the end of WW2. The highjacking of Germany by zios and the treatment meeted out to the average German citizen after the end of the war was despicable and has never been fully exposed publicy like in this interview. Of course Ike also left 9,000 US Pows abandoned in Soviet hands who were transported to gulags and most died being used in despicable and strange medical experiments. One escaped and was only able to get this story out on some late night talk radio shows. Same thing done in Korea and even more in Vietnam conflict. And as Admiral Moorer stated, snipers were sent into kill POWs who knew too uch and when that failed, VX gas was delivered by specially equipped aircraft. This was High Treason and Henry Kissinger (codenamed “Bor”) was behind it. Kissinger described American Soldiers as no more than dumb animals to be sent to slaughter. And he was responsible for the murders of over 1 million on Myanmar. These are the kinds of scum the secret shadow govt elevates to run America.
same kissinger credited “cracking the bamboo curtain” for NAFTA-GATT later on..
the setup (conspiracy!) to treasonably sabotage our real working productive economy,
to MAKE the people desperate-terrified as excuse to usher in this police state..
add to that all the opium-heroin shipped into the US in military cadavers, Korea-Vietnam.
followed with Iran-contra, and the repeat with “fast-n-furious”, but hey “just say no!” of course..
(I sure do wish more people understood about what IS so hard to connect so many dots)
Thank you Guys, nice work that may need more discussion;
Hallo, Beste Grüße aus der Heimat;
Ahoi…Dobry Den!
Nice Diskussion startet here, I think i will have to add my opinion on this.
First of all I have to tell you that it can be very boring here, in the mountains.
Therefore I have to keep up reading VT, to see whats happening “In the real world”
Nowadays everybody is taught, that the Germans are industrial Perfectionists, building perfect cars so they need no speed Limit… etc
If you ask a person, where to travel- They tell you “Germany”-(maybe to ride the perfect cars on an Autobahn with no speed limit)…
But when it comes to morality issues, then everybody knows that they are cold blooded Killers, trying to annihilate all of their opponents.
And thats just a mild opinion.
Thanks Gordon, you brought it up with :”I won’t even go into what is said about Austrians.”
I am confronted with lots of people in any vacation I do, that think that I am a relative of A. Hitler, just because I talk as my mouth is grown…
And just as “Nova” brought up : “I´m an Austrian in the age of 32. It was not until 6 month ago that I´ve heard the story of the milion of german POW died in US camps on german soil. We are not allowed to know or to even talk about it! No, there`s no law, but everybody will anoying you if you dare to do so. Nobody can imagine what the jews have done to my beloved country and to my fellow austrian people. I don`t yell for revenge or even justice. All I want ist the truth coming out before I die.”
True Story
As well I have to repeat, that here, in Central Europe, its very necessary from which Country your ancestors came. Therefore its not that easy to call a german speaking person “German”…
Greetings to all my brothers here and in US, Ahoi to my Slovak&Czech Members
Thanks Gordon for standing for and defending the TRUTH.
The turmoil the world is living in today is directly linked to many created myths and lies related to WW I-WW II and 9/11, covered up by other lies and staged events to create a virtual reality, based on fables, the Mafia tries to adjust so they appears consistent with those horrible lies…
A couple of days ago, il consigliere Alan Derhowitz, interfering with the Vatican’s domestic Affairs as he is accustomed to do with the US ones on behalf of the Zion Talmudic Mafia, sent a letter to The Miami Herald Editor, as reported by Haaretz yesterday; Quote:
Alan Dershowitz says leading candidate for papacy is an anti-Semite
Harvard law professor says Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga of Honduras blamed the Jews for scandal surrounding Catholic sex abuse, and ˜compared Jewish controlled media with Hitler”.
By JTA | Feb.18, 2013 | 6:04 PM | 18
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In a letter to the editor of the Miami Herald, Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz said that one of the leading candidates to replace Pope Benedict XVI is an anti-Semite.
Responding to a list published last week after the resignation of Benedict, which identified Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga of Honduras as a possible successor to the current pope, Dershowitz wrote: “He has blamed the Jews for the scandal surrounding the sexual misconduct of priests toward young parishioners! He has argued that the Jews got even with the Catholic Church for its anti-Israel positions by arranging for the media — which they, of course, control, he said — to give disproportionate attention to the Vatican sex scandal. He then compared the Jewish controlled media with Hitler, because they are ‘protagonists of what I do not hesitate to define as a persecution against the church.’”
Maradiaga, in a May 2002 interview with the Italian-Catholic publication “30 Giorni,” claimed Jews influenced the media to exploit the current controversy regarding sexual abuse by Catholic priests in order to divert attention from the Israeli-Palestinian crisis.
At the time, the Anti-Defamation League expressed public outrage at the cardinal’s comments. In a later conversation with ADL™s national director, Abraham Foxman, Maradiaga apologized and said he never meant for his remarks to be taken as perpetuating an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory about Jewish control of the media, and promised never to say it again.
“The Vatican has rightly called anti-Semitism a sin, and yet an unrepentant sinner is on the short list to become the leader of the Catholic Church,” Dershowitz insists in his letter to the editor. “If that were to occur, all of the good work by recent popes in building bridges between the Catholic Church and the Jews would be endangered. This should not be allowed to happen.” Unquote
Any similitude of the modus operandi with the hetz against Senator Chuck Hagen’s nomination as head of DoD is “pure coincidence”…
btw.. following comments taking a poke back at ya for “trolling”, yeah, you asked for it.
your article about the subversion of the catholic church is a pretty good one, honestly!
I’m NOT a writer-historian-librarian who makes notes, bibliographies, or saves links to post to support statements to “defend myself”, and certainly didnt appreciate your personal attacks below with all of your name calling profanities. no apologies for dishing ya some right back either, it happened, no hatred about the crap flying either now. asking me for direct links to information I’ve read and remember aint gonna work, doesnt mean I’m some kind of LIAR or MORON… but if I’m invited to name calling games I sure dont have a problem with playing that silly game! (makes WHO look bad exactly?)
the link I’d posted of an article right here at VT prettymuch explains a lot of hitler being manipulated into a power seat, it’s near “common knowledge” among a lot of truthers about hitlers mom shicklegruber being a rothschild house-servant (aka illegitemate aka fatherless aka bastard child). rather than look into it yourself to verify or disprove, ya went after me with very personal attacks and called ME “childish”, LMAO!
I’m not someone who claims to be a writer or scholarly, ever..
MY “style” isnt YOUR “style”, is about what you’d demanded-expected of me, I’m not you..
demanding my real name trying to dismiss me for not complying, naaw, thats not power-trippin at all..
your using your real name doesnt automatically grant you credibility any more than my alias for commenting automatically dismisses everything I say as nothing but lies, you get that, right?
Is this to promote the pedo protector as someone good? Just so we’re clear, his resignation was to (attempt to) sheild him and the church from mass liability coming from covering up the pedophilia. No DIVERSION like ‘here I’ll give ya a scrap of truth so you keep chasing rabbits’ is going to do it. Dirty as the day is long, facts are facts. – copy to browser – itccs.org/2013/02/19/fiddling-while-rome-burns-the-pope-hides-from-sight-while-italian-church-and-state-feign-normalcy/ and
reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-pope-resignation-immunity-idUSBRE91E0ZI20130215
and americablog.com/2013/02/pope-resignation-update-ri-judges-ruling-forces-release-of-legion-of-christ-docs.html ——– Pedos pedos everywhere why do they never go to jail? search also – child porn 5200 pentagon. Vicious filthy POS pedos and their protectors running for cover.
Enjoy the chemtrails everybody. You’re being sprayed no matter where you are. aboutthesky.com Yes, that transhumanism should go well with the world o’ pedos.
Some people know but ignore. Others you tell and they pay attention. How many are in each group is the question of survival for humanity. Tick tock.
To late it has been censored already !
I mean the link posted by LC from Feb.17 at 5.15 pm
You are all wrong: Mao Zse Dong (something) was the best (no. 1): 60.000.000 Chinese starved to death by communist planning: working in the rice fields to learn the Cultural revolution! Mao loved the Chinese to death.
I just finished reading Stalingrad, Bevor 2001, and utterly boring and unreadable book. But the Russions won: 27.000.000 deaths, many Soviet soldiers were shot from behind by their own troops, ordered by Satanist Stalin, the no. 2.
Next book: The Gulag Archipelago from A. Solzhenitsyn. Must be fun: forced labour camps, like Hitler, like Stalin, like the US prison system.
Karl Marx was right: Religion is Opium for the poor people and Power is corrupting (mind and body).
Ultimately, this leads to the conclusion: we live in a Sadistic universe.
Kultur-Revolution – Red Terror – HOLODOMOR, what was You “no. 3″ again…? What about NAKBA or AGHET, the armenian Genocide? Jewish opportunists even dare to play soft on Turkey on that issue of AGHET because they need Turkey as an Ally…isn’t THAT interesting? Israel engages in HOLOCAUST-DENIAL if it fits their purpose.
And You’re wrong, “sadistic” would obviously mean that the Devil pulls the strings, but the “Truth” is, that God has either a peculiar sense for sarcasm or more probably it’s just all part of his grand plan we can’t understand.
The donmeh Jewish “converts” to Islam did the genocide of the Armenian Christians…one of the favorite torture techniques of the Jewish bolsheviks on the Russian Christians was “the Rat torture”: A rat would be encaged on the abdomen of an unfortunate Christian…hot coals on top of the cage..the ends of the rigid metal cage embedded into the abdomen…the rat is poked with the hot coals…his only way out? Begin chewing into/through the body cavity of the Christian victim…I’m sure the Jews derived much pleasure fm this…Want to see a model depicting this? It’s up at http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk now
sorting all the info can be difficult..
Austrian born illegit son of a rothschild hitler manipulated into power,
supported by the vatican that the rothschilds are bankster to, go figger?
most of the world not allowing German refugees about put them into “israel”,
the open campus concentration camp where warden and guards became government in 1948,
with rothschilds United NAZIons, kissingers mouth, funded by rothschilds, supported by the vatican..
the CIA formed with operation paperclip nazis, prescott bush busted funding hitler,
GHWB in at the startup of the CIA..
kissinger credited with “cracking the bamboo curtain” under nixon,
CIA bush-clintons ramming NAFTA-GATT through to hand all production and technology to China,
which has been about a “royals puppet show” ever since the opium wars..
treasonously sabotaging OUR real working economy, left US “terrified” of unemployment-homelessness.
-all of it, very relative!
before the District of Criminals illegally “legalized” domestic spying-espionage (warfare!) for themselves,
they treasonously hired Israeli to do it for em, with money they “national debt” us with..
if it was illegal for DC to do it how was it “legal” to spend OUR money, to hire that crap out?
I dont buy into the “Holocaust Official Story” anymore than I buy into the one about 911,
theres more holes in it than a block of Swiss cheese! not saying people werent killed on 911,
but WHO REALLY DID IT.. were all being investigated for treasonous economic sabotaging fraud,
WTC-7 investigations by the SEC and pending audit of the Pentagon,
werent any threat to some “sand ghost bin laden” guy that they keep throwing in our faces..
I’m not an admirer of hitler, but before things got crazy he’d done a lot of good for germany too,
jewish leaders declaring war or “sanctions” against germany isnt really ever mentioned,
gee, that might have something to do with how theyed be treated inside germany back when?
I dont agree with nazi led germany beating the snot out of other countries with its warpath either,
but I wouldnt doubt much of that being pushed-manipulated to happen in the first place!
look how they’re trying to shove Iran around nowadays, its the same “special” interests, by “special” I wouldnt mean inbred psychopathic bloodlines that have been in the real power seats for centuries nope..
theres so many details.. so easy to get caught up into about any of those details too, I have a tendancy to look at the bigger picture, what these inter-related working mechanisms are really doing..
describing a connecting rod between a piston and crankshaft without looking at the relationship of the combustion chamber and its valves, isnt gonna help in understanding how the engine puts the power to the pavement..
before WW1, germany was a JEWEL nation, full of inventors, artists, wealth for it etc and independant.
every nation that has allowed parasitic bankster scum in to “play” is destroyed economically,
about every nation that doesnt allow them in, is demonized and destroyed militarily first..
theyed sure done it to Germany with two “world wars”! they wouldnt ever make up stories to rationalize and justify what theyed done, propagandizing so that it’d be an “official story” never to be questioned..
we “know” because they “taught” us, financial fraud investigations and an audit of the pentagon for 2.3 trillion “missing”, was surely all about putting some bin laden guy from halfway around the planet into a prison cell where he belonged.. it makes perfect sense because thats what they tell us, right?
in the video, genocide of Native Americans is briefly mentioned..
it isnt widely known about “Wild Buffalo Bill Cote” slaying thousands of buffalo to starve the natives,
to later understand and regret what he’d had a hand in doing, and start up his “Wild West Show”.
his show was a travelling circus act with “bigger than life” portrayal of what govt had really done,
the show was shut down by govt for Wild Bill daring try to explain the truth to the masses..
I’m saying this government has a long history of “Official Story” crap,
its the rationalizations and justifications of psychopaths, who about ALWAYS seek-obtain “power”.
(they about always prove themselves a danger to themselves and others, needing a rubber room!)
no I wont provide my real name anymore than I’d believe yours is really paul v sheridan.
I’m not a writer and youre not my English teacher to demand bibliographies from me,
and regarding your semantics to try to negate only suggests you have an agenda.
maybe you’re more concerned with nit-picking truths buried 7-8 decades ago,
than the results affecting us all today because of it by economic saboteurs?
the swastika is an ancient Egyptian symbol not “anti-communist”, you probably know plenty about the shicklegruber woman being a house-maid concubine that got knocked up, with many of her friends killed to keep the pregnancy under wraps, but you suggest she was related to rothschilds?
what part of “illegitemate SON” did you fail to understand, and why try to misdirect?
your questions about that is deliberately divided as if I’d made two seperate statements, it wasnt.
hitler being Austrian born, not German, sure made him a legit leader for Germany, right?
got any more BS to “spew” there “paul” ?
go chase yourself “paulie v”..
and while you’re at it try barking up this tree..
before hooting as if you have some kind of “win”..
veteranstoday.com/2013/02/17/american-genocide-john-hanke-revises-holocaust-revisionism/
I suppose the author of that is full of it, or is it YOU maybe?
coward? profanity?
ok you ingrown fisticulated butthair, have your profanity you piece of sh!t troll bastard..
happy now?
see for yourselves folks, have a look at the article I’d just linked,
decide for yourselves about who might be somewhat credible..
speaking of “not very bright”, seems to me that only a moron would try to discredit everything I’d said by trying to disect one little part as if it were multiple..
“Nor did we ask you for some meandering nonsense about “an ancient Egyptian symbol”
-who’s this WE, ya got a mouse in your pocket or do you represent a group somehow?
I’m a pea-brain for not being familiar with Bluffhane? then by the same standard you’re name calling shows you a double standard hipocrit regarding anything “profanity”, doesnt it..
putrid, cowardly, lacking charachter, not-credible, blatant liar..
-yeah, FU and the self important horse ya rode in on mofo.
I see right through your BS and so does anyone else reading your post
(have some of your own garbage right back)
“spews” typically means “spewing BS”, you started it..
asking my real name to imply I’m a liar, right out the gate and claiming your own “superiority”..
oooohhh.. but if its me typing “BS” I started all the profanity, right?
thats pretty darn comical.
reformation.org/adolf-hitler.html
theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/hitler_was_a_rothschild.htm
projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20996-Adolf-Hitler-Was-a-Rothschild–Proof-
over 488,000 results from “hitler son of a rothschild”,
yeah it’s debated, refuted, maybe inconclusive?
howabout you give me irrefutable proof it isnt the reality, oh, you cant and know it?
wouldnt that only show yourself as trolling deliberately? trying to discredit everything I’d said based on one very small detail of all that I’d posted? followed up with scads of name callings and slanders against my own charachter? trolling can be fun sometimes, I guess..
great way to impress your readers too!
Two thumbs up, Paul!
yes because writers attacking reader-commenters is always admirable..
If he really wanted to be the Pope of Truth why did he encourage or insist that Bp Fellay ( SSPX ) expel Bp Williamson? ( It certainly seems he did ) Williamson’s “set-up” interview w/the swedish “journalist” was agood opportunity for him to defend historical truth…www.inthissignyoushallconquer.com belongs to the priests resisting Fellay ( mostly concerning the terms/costs of “regularization ” )…
holy cow! i didnt know millions were liquidated after the war like that,,,you need to fill us in like how and where was it done?
so Zionist took over Germany after the war then they would round up nationalist and execute scores of them at a time? millions of them???,,how could this be hidden from the public,surely some Germans would have wrote books about the holocaust after the holohoax..
damn i wish the pope would go in front of the world and tell the truth,,people would listen to him and finally right history from its twisted myth..
they did
the books were burned and those who wrote them died in gulags or are still in german prisons
why do you think Ernst zundel was locked up?
The resignation of the German Pope has nothing to do with the Holocaust. Basically the Italians never liked this pope. If you go to Italy all of the souvenirs are of the previous pope not the current one that is about to stand down.
The Vatican started using the German bank because financially it is in better shape than the bank of Italy and the Italian economy and this cause a fracus with the Italian bank which then disrupted credit card payments accepted by the Vatican which caused the Vatican to lose money.
Until each of us faces the Nazi within, we will continue to look for the evil one because the delusion is that it is outside of ourselves. When the Dali Lama was asked on his first trip to the US why he didnt rally Tibet and the US and Briton to fight the Chinese take over he said that in ancient history the Tibeteans were very brutal to the Chinese and killed and tortured many of them. He said that to stop the wheel of Karma you have to stop killing if at all possible. There are no good guys in WWII. The whole thing is relative. One of the reasons that 3 million of us ended up in Vietnam killing those people was because after Ho Chi Minh was helped by our early special forces to kick out the Japanese during WWII, he wanted Pres. Truman to help him stay independent of the French and Chinese so they could have peace. Truman would not correspond with Ho and ended up arming the French to fight him and after that went south the corrupt leaders of the US sent me and Mr. Duff to do their dirty work of occupying and killing Vietnamese people for no good reason. My point is that I bought this line of shit and did not realize that I was the Nazi and the authorities didnt have to push too hard to get the American people to cooperate with this immoral war. Germany was brutal, the US was brutal, Ho was brutal, Russia was brutal, China was brutal, Japan was brutal. Are there any of us who have no evil Nazi or Zionist within?
Many of these subjects, the Dresden fire bombing, the forced expulsion of the Sudetten Deutschen from Eastern Europe, Prussia and elsewhere have been topics of agitation in classical neo-nazi literature for a very long time frame.
The neós are particularly impassioned with Dresden and the H events. The objectives, of which there exists a magnanimous number, are to weaken systematically through revisionism post WW2 via channeled secret conferences in small numbers and allow that to leak out by trusted 2nd generation and now 3rd generation offspring of those alt-nazis.
The sames applies for those German Americans residing in the United States, S. America and elsewhere.
What many commentators and journalists of this site promote results from long-planned disruptions to the mainstream version of events which transpired.
By repeating the same lie, as Hitler himself stated, often enough a new truth emerges. All dictatorships since 1945 have been modelled upon the Nazi´s. Many Juntas in S. America were directly supported by old Nazis such as Claus Barbie who unfortunately enjoyed protection from the government of Argentiana.
So the murdering never really stopped. It simply re-branded itself under new management.
What motivates continuation of this propaganda of the great jewish conspiracy is the refusal or obstinance of the far-right to accept defeat. The ideology has survived, the persons have changed as with the weapons.
Apparently the fascination with this period in history is carried like some torch of enlightenment yet without any compassion, human understanding or full human comprehension of the magnitude of suffering that occured in that time period.
Those followers of this belief are lacking basic human qualities such as empathy, concern or ability to comprehend the pain of those victims.
Stargazer.
Have you ever read of the murder,holocausts,genocides,incest,rape,pillage and plunder of the Tanakh or Old Testament?It is quite a diagram for such reprehensible actions all in the name of their god?Christians are just as guilty of said crimes based on “permissions” in the New Testamant coupled with the OT.Have you ever read the hate and murderous intent in parts of the Talmud?
This is where the jews jumpo up and down and scream out at the top of their lungs:
“AntiSemite”
If that is indeed antisemitism then I am proud to be in the company of many thinkers who are on the same wavelink.At least be honest and divulge your agenda.
Stargazer.
Have you ever read of the murder,holocausts,genocides,incest,rape,pillage and plunder of the Tanakh or Old Testament?It is quite a diagram for such reprehensible actions all in the name of their god?Christians are just as guilty of said crimes based on “permissions” in the New Testamant coupled with the OT.Have you ever read the hate and murderous intent in parts of the Talmud?
This is where the jews jump up and down and scream out at the top of their lungs:
“AntiSemite”
If that is indeed antisemitism then I am proud to be in the company of many thinkers who are on the same wavelink.At least be honest and divulge your agenda.
“Those followers of this belief are lacking basic human qualities such as empathy, concern or ability to comprehend the pain of those victims.”
Really? Go to any Jerusalem Post article comments’ section on “New anti-Semitism” or “Israel-critics” referring to Germany, claim Yourself to be a proud german Patriot, then enjoy a barrage of Hate that will hit You. They will wish You “more Red Army rape would have happened” and say that Germans are Jewhaters since the times of Martin Luther, they will applaude to the idea of Germany being obliterated and appreciate building memorials on “their” lands honoring the RED ARMY RAPISTS.
I experienced it myself, and honestly, I now know about jewish “Empathy”, Israel hasn’t earned Germany’s friendship, they don’t appreciate that german High-Tech Dolphin-Class subs are what their whole M.A.D-strategic concept relies upon, I say “they” – that’s a generalization of course – but still…..Israel builds RED RAPE-memorials, Germany ruins our cities with TOMBS of false Holocaust™-Worship – Do You see the PERVERSION in it…?
Israel doesn’t deserve having Germany as it’s friend, I’m deeply ashamed about german VOLKZERTRETER that pose as VOLKSVERTRETER. Traitors.
Hitler “the dictator”, leader of the minority NDSAP party, was elected Chancellor by the majority of the Reichstag. The Nuremberg rallies provided the local party delegates to shape the party policy. Pretty much like political parties in “democracies” operate.
The “dictator” Slobodan Milosevic was elected by more than 50% of the minimum 60% of voting Yugoslavians.
The democratically elected G.W. Bush was: 1) elected by the majority of 9 people on the Supreme Court; 2) received less than 50% of the popular vote of the less than 55% of voters; 3) received less than 50% of the popular vote in 2004.
The democratically elected Tony Blair was the leader of a party that received 43% of the popular vote but 63% of the seats in the UK’s House of Commons in 1997, and thereby formed the Government. In 2005, his party received 35% of the popular vote, but 55% of the seats and thereby formed the Government.
Democracy is an illusion.
@Curmudgeon – Very good Querdenken, miesepeter, made me remember a Goering-interview he gave in captivity shortly before his death:
Goering: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Gilbert(Psychologist Nuremberg): There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
I wonder how many of my [distant] cousins could have been part of that “holocaust,” perpetuated via Ike. Ike certainly deserves no place on Mt. Rushmore. He is as bad as F.D.R. (if not worse). It is looking more like Ike is as honorable as that druid — Churchill. There is a special kind of Hell (vs. special place in) reserved for folk like that…
On the topic of Vatican secrecy:
“The Vatican is impenetrable, we were warned, the very inventor of the term “above top secret.” As the world’s oldest-running bureaucracy, it is an amalgamation of secrets, vaults, and esoteric traditions dating back to the Dark Ages. Steeped in complexity and guarded by a procession of popes, cardinals, and multileveled priests, it is obsessed with maintaining “the need to know.” When spokesmen for the Church do tantalize the outside world with commentary, it often turns out to be duplicity designed to keep researchers running in circles and in the wrong direction…
…the Jesuits (described as “the cerebral cortex of the Church”) dealing with the knotty moral, theological, and organizational issues surrounding a papal proclamation and the seed of Satan…”
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/vaticana13.htm
Holocaust Revisionism will more than likely “die on the vine”. Ahmadinejad and Putin have now agreed not to challenge the “Official WW2 Narrative”. Yes, they have been put in place.
I´m a german in the age of 52. It was not until 6 month ago that I´ve heard the story of the milion of german POW died in US camps on german soil. We are not allowed to know or to even talk about it! No, there`s no law, but everybody will anoying you if you dare to do so. Nobody can imagine what the jews have done to my beloved country and to my fellow german people. I don`t yell for revenge or even justice. All I want ist the truth coming out before I die.
I work with a 54 year old German who didn’t know that Britain invaded and occupied Iceland during WWII, and that the German invasion of Norway way in response to the British invasion of Norway.
BTW, the word holocaust is defined as “death by fire”!
Right, or “completely burned” and this is why GERMAN SELF-HATING TRAITORS remembered the Nazi-victims last week on the DRESDEN-commemorations instead of their own fallen, on that day on which nearly 70 years ago approximately 35.000 innocent women and children were burned alive.
If You speak the Truth about allied strafers shooting at refugee-columns and civilians, or assume that the historical documents about Dresden show that maybe even 75.000 people were slaughtered that day, a german Historian will call it into question and accuse You of politically motivated manipulation of History, he will minimize and relativate any number and causes of german victims, but if You ask “Did 6 Million really die?” he will make You a leper and call the prosecutor to put You in jail.
John Sholtes the “Holocaust Narrative” is all about their religion. They believe that “their own messiah” will not come until 6 million Jews are sacrificed by “death by fire”. This is why they use the number of 6 million and cause of death by ovens. They will not accept any revision on those 2 counts.
The Holocaust was a very real, just as the revenge taken on German people due to that. Neither should have happened.
Have a look at what the German lead EU does currently in Greece, or that the German leadership is one of the best allies of Israel (the zionazi connection), or that Angela has been the best ally of the Bush family.
Dont try to glorify the Nazis just because you are rightfully upset about the Zionists. They are both evil.
And visit Austria Mr. Duff, and have a lot of contact with the locals, and you will get an understanding why certain people can´t stand Germans (I´m writing from neighbouring Slovakia).
As the kids say….”Hitler was German and Mozart was Austrian.”
I live part of the year in Germany, have family there including grandchildren. I spend part of the time in Austria where I have an apartment on St. Stephen’s Platz.
I have many friends in Austria including family in Vienna.
I have good friends in Czech including the owners of the Podvokan Brewery, the only Jewish owned brewery in Czech.
If you would like lessons in your own history, I can supply.
As for hating Germans…most Germans hate other Germans.
You probably don’t know much about Germany…I could teach you.
Not all of what you say is wrong but things you say that are beliefs not based in proven facts are simply that, things you choose to believe. You must be religious.
As for Germany…I was always taught not to trust Bavarians.
I won’t even go into what is said about Austrians.
I did learn one thing…Slovakia has bad roads and dumb police.
“If you would like lessons in your own history, I can supply.”
yeah, another arrogant American who thinks he knows everything better
Greetings to Slovakia from Germany, slovak friend!
Germany did nothing to Greece but paying, greek cleptocrats, communists and Goldman Sachs brought it onto them AND us.
Austrians love us, Slovaks do too, german Patriots had much hope in the brave slovak anti-Bail-Out fighter Richard Sulik recently…
Duff is right, most Germans hate themselves and eachother, who wouldn’t if You’re made to believe that Your Grandparents were the sons of bitches from hell who cooked soap out of Kids’ corpses that were not thrown alive into giant flamepits (Elie Wiesel) but just gassed in air raid shelters, shacks and morgues. (Robert van Pelt)
There was a holocaust, yes, it is called WORLD WAR II – as for the 6 supposed remaining “Death-Camps” in Poland, and the mass-shootings on the eastern front, You might ask Yourself why nobody ever taught You about TYPHUS, Gaschambers for Delousing, “jewish bolshevism”, The Wallstreet/ CityofLondon-Zionists’ involvement the likes of Samuel Untermyer or Chaim Weizmann, and why You obviously was teached very little about the brutality of Partizan-Warfare from all sides in that unnecessary war…
JOSEF TISO was a great man, they murdered him. Nobody is gloryfying the NAZI, senseful and reasonable people just won’t take the post-WW2-propaganda-portrayal of NAZI=EVIL Hollywood-style anymore. My Grandpa was a Tankdriver in the Waffen-SS, a young boy, a brave soldier, not a Killer, yet still people are taught every Waffen-SS combat soldier was a Baby-Murderer.
Read a David Irving book for once, slovak Patriot!
In America, the German language was pulled from the public schools during the war periods. It was part of the deep-sixing of the Deutsch culture, echoing the tensions between the English and German settlers during the 17th and 18th centuries in the Northeast colonies, when in those centuries there had been some talk about making German the official language. I may be slow, but I’m beginning to see a pattern.
… Sachertorte after a night at the Staatsoper with the lights of St. Stephen’s Platz glowing in the early morning fog. Beautiful area & the people are gracious.
This definitely passes the smell test. Thanks, Gordon. I hope we get to see whatever the Vatican has in the files before we die. Looks like the bad guys would rather kill us, however.
As Napoleon once said, “history is a collection of fables written by the victors”!
Thank you for this article Mr. Duff. My parents were from Germany and my mother and her family were from the east and were among the over fourteen million Germans expelled from their homes so these territories could re-populated by non-Germans. She was born in Memel, a German city taken by Lithuania, her family had a home in Konigsberg, a city taken by the Soviet Union and she was expelled from Brieg (near Breslau) a city given to Poland. All these cities had been German since their founding in the middle ages.
What Germany did has been distorted and exaggerated for profit and sympathy and for politics – so Israel can do anything with impunity. And what was done to Germany has been covered up and lied about by Germany’s former enemies and with the complicity of the German government.
I am amazed, as I am sure most people are at was is coming out about history thanks to your website and others. But while I am open minded, it’s important to have factual information. I am an admirer of the man I consider the most important historian in the last 100 years; the British historian David Irving. He bases his books entirely on primary sources (archives, diaries, interviews). What evidence is there that Pope Benedict was going to release information about the so-called holocaust?
My family is from the same region.
Well then, Viele Gruesse aus der Heimat from Hannover to You both, my Grandmother fled the Red Army from Tilsit, East Prussia together with her 2 toddlers.
Keep up the great work, Mr. Duff, Your piece about Press TV is a sweeping blow unveiling the hyprocisy and bigotry of the US media, I might add that even RUSSIA TODAY (RT) does reporting that is often more objective and unbiased than the celebrated “Free World’s” News-TV…
Gruess Gott from BW!!
Yes, it is time the Germans wake up and learn the other side of WWII.
However, just as the Bible says, those who live by the sword will die by the sword.
Germans have a very violent history, even the romans mentioned that they are constantly at war, with eachother. Tribe against tribe, even 2,000 years ago.
It is important to keep the balance, in a war they are all guilty, regardless who fired the first shot.
You are not told the truth, the government is dictated by a zionist group, jews rob you blind. If they are cought, back to Israel they go.
Please notice, I said jews, not The Jews, as there are good people amoung them, too.
Jesus Tomer you have swallowed some myths. All ancient tribes fought each other sometimes, but the Romans were the top aggressors of the lot, they also attacked the Germans first. German history is no more violent than anyone in their circumstances, surrounded by many nations, from 1815 to 1914 German states attacked no one, except Denmark (in alliance with Austria) over some disputed land, and some colonial skirmishes. The other fights were started by someone else. Most of the other powers launched quite a few wars in the same period by comparison. Same goes for some earlier (and later) periods. And who started it is crucial, you are not ‘equally guilty’ for defending yourself.
Two great books on this subject are:
Freda Utley, ‘The High Cost of Vengeance’
James Bacque, ‘Other Losses’
Tragic. May the German people soon awaken.
Thanks John:
I think Germans know this quiet well but they’ve become totally colonized by Zio-Satanists headed by the House of Rothschilds which took off from Frankfurt 250 years ago. Germans are so much under the gun that they aren’t even allowed to declare the amount of undisclosed trillions of dollars they have been paying to Rothschild’s terrorist mercenaries (aka: Israel) under false pretext of “Holocaust Reparations”!!!.
++ here are both above books you cited in support of VT & Gordon Duff & Germany:
THE HIGH COST of VENGEANCE by Freda Utley
***************http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/unsorted/thcov.pdf
CRIMES AND MERCIES The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation 1944-1950. By: JAMES BACQUE
************http://www.pdfarchive.info/pdf/B/Ba/Bacque_James_-_Crimes_and_Mercies.pdf
I recommend you save both pdf files to your computer
LC, your second link for the Crime and Mercies book doesn’t work.
I get the error message from Adobe Reader saying: File does not begin with ‘%PDF-’
I tried a search through their index but got the same error message.
Sadly, I think the censors got to the book before me
Not YET !!!
Try the live link: http://www.pdfarchive.info/pdf/B/Ba/Bacque_James_-_Crimes_and_Mercies.pdf
Its still there. Try again.
LC, thanks. It was my browser that was at fault. I was using Firefox which couldn’t view it. No problems downloading it with IE.
Very interesting Gordon, and it makes sense, the German born Pope wanted to exonerate his people from this hideous Zionist exploitation of Germany. The irony is the Catholic Church is the number one institution that uses guilt to control vast amounts of people, the Church teaches its flock that people are born in original sin and are getting a automatic free ticket to hell unless they believe in their religious doctrine.
I talked to a German national recently and he said the real death toll from the Dresden fire bombing was close to 400,000 because the city was packed with refugees. That figure is far higher than Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Add to that the Germans deported after the war and soldiers starved in Einsenhower POW camps and we get a completely different picture of who was genociding who.
The real Holocaust was the one done to Germany and Europe by the central bankers, the real Holocaust continues as the world piles up unpayable debt that results in mass poverty within the underclass as they struggle to find money in order to pay inflatable prices caused by this debt bubble. America has millions of homeless while millions of debt inflated expensive homes sit empty. Rothschild usury is harming our people.
So the next question, is the next Pope the last Pope like Tom Horn asserts in his book Petras Romanus?
I would like to see the Vatacan used for its real purpose, A Temple to the Sun. Get rid of the Popes and put up stauues to the Roman Gods like in pre Christian Rome. Get rid of Christianity altogether. They need a Great Emperor who brings back Rome. A unified Europe.
I’m assuming you have your tongue planted firmly in your cheek while making that statement.
Getting rid of the Catholic Church and bringing back Sun worship would remove all the pedophilia and corruption? Any cursory study of Roman history would tell you otherwise. There really isn’t that much difference between the two.
I am with you, but all organised religions should be forbidden, not just christianity.
However, I pity all those 50 million born again christians, are they waiting for nothing?