DHS insider: It’s about to get Very Ugly

By Douglas J. Hagmann


“Everyone needs to reflect on the United States having become obsessed with national security, even to the extent of gutting our Bill of Rights and turning the country into a “surveillance society”. It is long past time that serious consideration be given to dismantling DHS and returning the organization of our government to its far saner past.”–Jim Fetzer

[Editor’s note: While I would like to believe that Douglas Hagmann is exaggerating, all the evidence is against it. From my point of view, it is astounding that the major media has said nary a peep about the critical report of the subcommittee of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Intelligence, which was released on 3 October 2012.

After a review of 680 “fusion center” reports from 2009-2010, they found NO INDICATIONS OF ANY DOMESTIC TERRORIST THREAT, as I have reported here at Veterans Today. NONE! ZILCH! NADA! NOT ONE!

That none of the major networks–ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, or MSNBC–has said a word about this tells me that the government’s control of the media is complete and comprehensive and that these seemingly interminable attacks at Sandy Hook, Boston and now Santa Monica are intended to create the FALSE IMPRESSION that we have a serious problem with domestic terrorism. Well, we do have a serious problem, but it lies in another direction, as Douglas Hagmann explains.]

DHS insider: It’s about to get VERY UGLY!


by Douglas Hagmann


7 June 2013: Something quite unexpected happened just hours ago, in the dark of night, during a two-day layover in Washington, DC. My son and I are scheduled to take part in a seminar outside of Raleigh, North Carolina this weekend, so we combined our travels to include a side-trip to DC for a business meeting we had previously arranged. It was during this layover that something seemingly ripped from the pages of a spy novel took place.

While I was in the middle of a perfectly good and well needed sleep in the very early hours of this morning, I received a message. I cannot disclose how I received this message, at least not now. The discerning reader will understand why, which, by the way, would make a very interesting story alone. The message was extremely clear and precise. I was to meet my high level DHS insider at a very specific location in Washington, DC at a time when most “normal” people, except third-shift workers are still asleep. And, I was to come alone and make certain that I was not being followed, and I was to leave any cell phone or electronic device behind.

Seriously? I thought, as I was still trying to make sense of it all. Is all this really necessary? Is this really happening? I considered waking my son to accompany me, but opted to follow the instructions to the letter. Besides, I thought, he?s not the most affable middle-of-the-night person. I left a hastily written but detailed note in my hotel room before my departure in the event something happened. I looked at the digital clock on my rental car (my personal car would never survive our long distance trip). It was 3:20 a.m.

The meeting


I felt like I was part of a spy movie set in our nation’s capital. A chill rose up my spine as I waited in the dark of a chilly, misty and foggy pre-dawn morning. I was to meet with my DHS insider source at a time when most of the nation is asleep, at a place I could swear was featured in the movie All the President?s Men. No one and I mean no one knows I’m here, I thought, as I could see one of the most recognizable national landmarks in the distance.

My source appeared out of nowhere, or so it seemed, and handed me a cup of coffee with the astute observation that I looked like I needed it. So tell me, I asked impatiently, why do we have to meet at this time, at this location, and under such specific circumstances? “Because this might be our last meeting,” he stated.

Maybe it was the lack of sleep, the time, the place, or the chill of the misty rain that caused my sense of foreboding. “Explain,” I asked in an almost demanding tone. So he did, without mincing words.

The details


“If anyone thinks that what’s going on right now with all of this surveillance of American citizens is to fight some sort of foreign enemy, they’re delusional. If people think that this ‘scandal’ can’t get any worse, it will, hour by hour, day by day. This has the ability to bring down our national leadership, the administration and other senior elected officials working in collusion with this administration, both Republican and Democrats. People within the NSA, the Department of Justice, and others, they know who they are, need to come forth with the documentation of ‘policy and practice’ in their possession, disclose what they know, fight what’s going on, and just do their job. I have never seen anything like this, ever. The present administration is going after leakers, media sources, anyone and everyone who is even suspected of ‘betrayal.’ That’s what they call it, ‘betrayal.’ Can you believe the size of their cahones? This administration considers anyone telling the truth about Benghazi, the IRS, hell, you name the issue, ‘betrayal,'” he said.

“We know all this already,” I stated. He looked at me, giving me a look like I’ve never seen, and actually pushed his finger into my chest. “You don’t know jack,” he said, “this is bigger than you can imagine, bigger than anyone can imagine. This administration is collecting names of sources, whistle blowers and their families, names of media sources and everybody they talk to and have talked to, and they already have a huge list. If you’re not working for MSNBC or CNN, you’re probably on that list. If you are a website owner with a brisk readership and a conservative bent, you’re on that list. It’s a political dissident list, not an enemy threat list,” he stated.

What does it mean?


“What’s that exactly mean, being on that list, that is,” I asked, trying to make sense of it all.

“It means that there will be censorship under the color of authority of anyone in the U.S. who is attempting to expose what’s going on in our name. It’s about controlling any damning information from reaching epidemic proportions. It’s damage control to the extreme. It’s about the upcoming censorship of the internet in the name of national security. The plans are already in place. These latest reports about ‘spying eyes’ have turned this administration and others connected to it into something very, very dangerous. They feel cornered and threatened, and I’m hearing about some plans they have to shut down the flow of information that is implicating them of wrongdoing. Time is short,” he stated.

“How are they going to do this? How is it even possible?” I asked.

“First, they intend to use the Justice Department to silence journalists like in the Rosen case, but they won’t stop there. They will use a host of national security policies, laws, letters, whatever to take out the bigger threats,” he stated.

“Next, they will use some sort of excuse, an external threat, and I believe it will be a combination of the economic collapse and a Mid-East war that will begin in Syria to throttle the information that is accessible on the Internet. And you know what? People will believe it!”

“Based on what I’ve seen, most of which I should not have seen, the DHS is co-ordinating efforts with other federal agencies to begin to threaten American citizens with incarceration for non-compliance. You know the old talk of color coded lists? Well, this is what they will be using. People exposing the truth about Benghazi, killing the U.S. Dollar, even those questioning Obama’s legal status and eligibility to be President are the current targets. And they’ve had five long years to get to this point. The ugly truth is that these policies and practices did not start under Obama, but long before. This is about the killing of our Constitutional Republic. The murder of our country and the stripping of our rights. While many have been preoccupied with one issue, few have seen the bigger issue. This is the ‘end game,’ for all the marbles,” he stated.

More to come


“Please,” pleaded my source, “get this information out while you can. Tell people what I?m saying, that we don’t have much time, that after the latest exposure of spying, Obama, Jarrett, Axelrod, and others, including members of Congress, have put their plans into high gear. This is about the Marxist [Editor’s note: Fascistic] takeover of America. This is about our country being able to survive another July 4th holiday. This is about a world war about to break out that will kill millions of people, all because of the agenda of this administration.”

“They are very dangerous and will do anything and everything to stop the onslaught of negative information that?s being reported by the main stream media. But only about one quarter of the real information is being reported. The other three quarters will be the game changer. But first, tell people what I’ve said. Let them know that more will follow but get this information out right now while the internet is still relatively free. Do it today.”

My source provided additional information, but I am abiding by his wish to get this much out. I am writing now to let people know that we are in for seriously dangerous times ahead. Deadly times. War, and censorship under the color of authority and under the pretext of of national security. It’s about to get a lot uglier. Stay tuned.

7 June 2013

Douglas Hagmann is the founder and director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, a multi-state licensed private investigative agency. Doug began using his investigative skills and training to fight terrorism and increase public awareness through his website. This article first appeared there.

Jim Fetzer

A former Marine Corps officer, Jim Fetzer has published widely on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and evolution and mentality.

McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, he has also conducted extensive research into the assassination of JFK, the events of 9/11, and the plane crash that killed Sen. Paul Wellstone.

The founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, his latest books include The Evolution of Intelligence (2005), The 9/11 Conspiracy (2007), Render Unto Darwin (2007), and The Place of Probability in Science (2010).

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  1. LightSaber  June 17, 2013 at 6:43 am

    I could not find my post I am repeating below – I believe must be technical problems, I do not suspect your site of censorship, that would be quite contrary to what you preach.

    I see some vindication of my opinions in the following news (an example of more and more “dirt” being invented to get rid of Obama as I predicted below): “Shock Interview: Chelsea Clinton’s Life Threatened By… Barrack Obama? | The Daily Sheeple”.

    Also Project Camelot has just reported something serious has happened to Doug Hagmann, roughly 2 weeks after Ricky Ray had a rare, EXPLOSIVE interview about NWO on his show.
    Professor Fetzer, I am sorry if you feel offended and that you see me as “a person of insufferable arrogance who claims to be the only one who actually understands what’s going on.” I assure you that I am far from being a know-it-all type and I wrote my commentary because I CARE about VT and its writers – presently one of the most important websites concerning current geopolitical affairs. It’s of utmost importance that it does not loose its credibility and only increases its influence. Unfortunately the piece on the “DHS Insider” undermines that effort. I am well aware about your excellent work regarding 9-11, JFK, Sandy Hook and I emphasized that at the beginning of my remarks – but your article about the “DHS Insider” seems to be an exception.

    For some unknown reason you do not allow such a possibility and call my evaluation “a fabrication”. I thought we all make mistakes from time to time and pointing them out in a civilized manner qualifies as “constructive criticism”. At least that’s what I have been attempting. Again – I admire your work and I am only concerned that such a prominent and influential figure in the “truth movement” (not jut 9-11) as yourself will follow something what clearly is a misdirection. It really seems that your reactions are dictated rather by fear than by careful evaluation as in your other investigations. I am sorry but that’s how I see it. Fear is never a good counsel.

    What Prof. Tarpley wrote about 9-11 and Israelis is irrelevant at this point – as many others before and after him he does not to have to be right all the time on everything.

    I presented an analysis that IMHO ties many seemingly unrelated issues together, including the goal of the anti-Obama campaign by Alex Jones and his “warnings” against Russian troops on American soil, false flag provocations like Boston, Adam Kokesh and his “march on DC”, attacking this butcher of Syrians Erdogan by the most disgusting war-mongers like Bernard Henri-Levy and neocons in order to replace Turkish premier by the powers of much worse Gul (from the Gulen sect and who’s been calling to arm rebels even more) when Erdogan finally seems to comply with the American-Russian agreement on Syria.

    I think that it is quite clear that the tools of the totalitarian rule that have been designed and made into law by the ruling elite can be used against them – it’s an inherent feature of that system. Therefore the elites had to make sure that their puppet would NEVER be able to just that. In organized crime circles loyalty is secured by collecting all kinds of “dirt” that the members have on one another. We have no reason to doubt that within the group being the pinnacle of the organized crime – international fascist cabal including elements of the USG – it should be different. They have to have guarantees before letting anybody into their ranks. I believe such “dirt” concerning Obama has already been presented to the public opinion in a veiled form and hung over his head to be used when necessary. Obvious example is his birth certificate, clear forgery, quite crude – yet the MSM let it slide. But the presstitutes can turn on a dime and start to dig deeper into this issue – when the orders come from above. I am sure there is more of “juice”, Wayne Madsen wrote a quite credible story about Obama’s connections to the CIA.

    Obama has been blackmailed but the blackmail is not working anymore the way it supposed to. The president has some hidden leverage apparently. Moreover he is afraid of his life as reported recently by a former CIA analyst Ray McGovern – well respected anti-war activist and vocal critic of Obama.

    Jeff Rense and others have raised some valid points recently about the credibility of the NSA whistle-blower and the whole story – why now? what is new there – independent media where reporting this for years? why in the MSM? why so much fuss?

    I believe that it’s too late to save the democracy in the US and democratic tools and methods are far from being sufficient to cut through the ubiquitous web of deceit, to get to the core of corruption, to cut the evil at its roots instead of removing just branches one by one. Democracy run its course, it’s time for tyranny – when your read Plato’s “Republic” you begin to understand that’s natural progress of things. “We the people” had the chance and blew it. It’s over. Just look around at the herds of brainless sheeple following blindly the lies of the “ministry of truth” presented by the MSM. They cannot be rescued from their hypnotic state by ordinary measures.

    Agreement with Putin re ME gives Obama and his team of “realists” a free hand to implement necessary reforms – but that would require giving him dictatorial powers and also a vast amount of public trust – that’s what he meant by ‘If You Can’t Trust Us, We’re Going To Have Problems”. There is nothing sinister about it, just stating a fact.

    “Obama – dictator”, that’s what the public has been for years incessantly, tirelessly programmed to be scared of by both the “official” Obama’s enemies and the controlled opposition (like AJ). “He’s a Muslim! He’s a Marxist!” – absurd claims by the same people who introduced the Patriot Act and the NDAA and now are all of a sudden pretend concern about the surveillance state.

    If I am not mistaken the ruling elite and their puppets will be more and more opposed against the police state they created realizing that they are loosing control over it and that it will be used against them. We will see intense coordinated campaigns all over the place warning against “Obama the dictator”, because it’s the worst thing that could happen in the US right now. Is it?

    • Jim Fetzer  June 17, 2013 at 8:37 am

      I think we agree on far more than we disagree. I had not seen this comment before, so I cannot account for why it has not been posted before. But my concerns are not rooted in fear but in the perception of a clear and present danger represented by DHS and its allies, which include the Zionist lobby in Congress, cheer-led by Sens. John McCain, Diane Feinstein and Lindsay Graham. I have published so many article about this threat that I cannot imagine why you would miss my motives. But be that as it may, thank you for taking the time to explain your position in such detail. You have made a very thoughtful response.

  2. LightSaber  June 17, 2013 at 6:15 am

    Dr. Fetzer – Glenn Beck seems to be fascinated by this story too. Maybe you two should join efforts?

    ->Glenn Beck Discusses DHS Insider “It’s About To Get Ugly!”, June 14, The Hagmann And Hagmann Report

  3. homunculus  June 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    Interesting article from Webster Tarpley on the context of the recent attacks on Obama:

    • Jim Fetzer  June 14, 2013 at 12:36 pm

      Clarity from Edward Snowden and Murky Response from Progressive Leaders in Congress

      By Norman Solomon

      House Speaker John Boehner calls Edward Snowden a “traitor.” The chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Dianne Feinstein, labels his brave whistleblowing “an act of treason.” What about the leadership of the Congressional Progressive Caucus?

      As the largest caucus of Democrats on Capitol Hill, the Progressive Caucus could supply a principled counterweight to the bombast coming from the likes of Boehner and Feinstein. But for that to happen, leaders of the 75-member caucus would need to set a good example by putting up a real fight.

      Right now, even when we hear some promising words, the extent of the political resolve behind them is hazy.

      “This indiscriminate data collection undermines Americans’ basic freedoms,” Progressive Caucus co-chair Keith Ellison said about NSA spying on phone records. He added: “Our citizens’ right to privacy is fundamental and non-negotiable. . . . The program we’re hearing about today seems not to respect that boundary. It, and any other programs the NSA is running with other telecom companies, should end.”

      The other co-chair of the Progressive Caucus, Raul Grijalva, was blunt. “A secretive intelligence agency gathering millions of phone records and using them as it sees fit is the kind of excess many of us warned about after the Patriot Act became law,” he said. “Continuing this program indefinitely gives the impression of being under constant siege and needing to know everything at all times to keep us safe, which I find a very troubling view of American security policy.”

      And Grijalva said pointedly: “We’re being assured that this is limited, supervised and no big deal. When we heard the same under President Bush, we weren’t comfortable taking his word for it and moving on. I feel the same today.”

      The five vice chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus are a mixed civil-liberties bag.

      Judy Chu of California put out a vapid statement, calling for “release of unclassified reports by the administration on how FISA powers are used” and offering the bromide “need to strike a balance between clandestine efforts and transparency.”

      Rhode Island’s David Cicilline called the NSA spying on phone records and the Internet “very disturbing.” But he went on to merely state that “the federal government has a responsibility to both ensure our national security and maintain every citizen’s essential right to privacy.”

      Michael Honda, who faces a corporate challenger next year in his digital tech-heavy district in the San Jose area, had this to say: “I am deeply disturbed by the National Security Agency’s wholesale surveillance of phone and online activity of Americans without just cause. . . . I believe all Americans should be extremely wary of this type of large-scale data gathering of personal, private online data.”

      Sheila Jackson Lee of Houston, who sits on the Homeland Security Committee in the House, displayed her proficiency at national-security babble while sidestepping huge violations of civil liberties. She touted a need to reduce use of private contractors and “repair deficiencies in the security clearance system.”

      Jan Schakowsky, a representative from Chicago who’s a member of the House Intelligence Committee, put out a statement saying: “I have had longstanding concerns with the broad surveillance powers Congress has given intelligence agencies, including the National Security Agency.”

      But nice-sounding statements don’t cause big changes in policies.

      If the past is any guide, leaders and other members of the Progressive Caucus will periodically say things that appeal to progressive constituencies back home — without throwing down the gauntlet and battling an administration that has made clear its contempt for essential civil liberties.

      The potential and the problem are perhaps best symbolized by the Progressive Caucus whip, Barbara Lee of California, arguably the strongest progressive in the House.

      Lee provided a good statement to a local newspaper, saying: “The right to privacy in this country is non-negotiable. We have a system of checks and balances in place to protect our most basic civil liberties, and while I believe that national security is paramount, we must move forward in a way that does not sacrifice our American values and freedoms.”

      Yet a full week after the NSA surveillance story broke, there wasn’t any news release on the subject to be found on Congresswoman Lee’s official website. She had not issued any other statement on the scandal.

      If the most progressive members of Congress aren’t willing to go to the mat against fellow-Democrat Obama over an issue as profound as the Bill of Rights, the result will be a tragic failure of leadership — as well as an irreparable disaster for the United States of America.

      And how about speaking up for Edward Snowden while some in both parties on Capitol Hill are calling him a traitor and pronouncing him guilty of treason? Public mention of the virtues of his courageous whistleblowing seems to be a congressional bridge way too far.

      So, as in countless other moments of history, “when the people lead, the leaders will follow” — and only then. You can help lead if you sign the petition “Thank NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden” by clicking here.

      This article was published at NationofChange at: http://www.nationofchange.org/clarity-edward-snowden-and-murky-response-progressive-leaders-congress-1371220905. All rights are reserved.

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 14, 2013 at 1:35 pm

      Thank you for the link to that excellent Naomi Wolf article. My investment analyst friend spotted he was a plant right away from the absence of anything on the market rigging which is the 300 pound gorilla in the room.

    • cascadedavid  June 14, 2013 at 2:03 pm

      I thought that she made some good points. It’s starting to smell a little like Assange 2.0 to me. Nothing new of any value exposed, and all of the regular players beating their drums…

    • Jim Fetzer  June 14, 2013 at 2:10 pm

      Do you have any serious doubt that what he is says is basically true?
      All these attacks on him are intended to discredit what he says, but
      is there any good reason to doubt that what he is saying is correct?

    • cascadedavid  June 14, 2013 at 2:18 pm

      I’m pretty sure that it is correct, Jim. Is there anything that wasn’t already known though? Is the only real threat to future whistle blowers? Is there $ to be made by this?

    • cascadedavid  June 14, 2013 at 2:53 pm

      Like CoJonesGrandes mentioned, look what he didn’t say. We know how TPTB like to divide the masses, and they are on this. I’ll bet that you could sit down, and in a few minutes come up with a potential list of what might be gained vs what was lost.

    • shachalnur  June 14, 2013 at 6:11 pm

      What Snowden leaked is true, although known unofficially.

      How he got the info is another question that will come out later.

      I’m sure the most interesting stuff is what he didn’t leak (yet).

      He’s protected by China and will be used as a weapon against Obama.

      Pure blackmail–but organized by whom?

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 15, 2013 at 1:39 am


      Here’s another article from Rappoport on this NSA leaker

      “Still waiting to be uncovered? NSA spying to collect elite financial data, spying on the people who have that data: the major investment banks. NSA scooping up that data to predict, manipulate, and profit from trading markets all over the world.
      A trillion-dollar operation.”

    • shachalnur  June 15, 2013 at 10:25 am

      “magic thumb drive” or Israel (China and Russia).

    • cascadedavid  June 14, 2013 at 3:11 pm

      Having said that, if this does turn out to be a red herring, thinking about things in a “three card monte” sort of way, your expertise may be better put to use looking at what this might be distracting us from…

  4. CoJonesGrandes  June 14, 2013 at 7:19 am

    Now, WTF is going on with this exercise?

    At the end of this month, the Treasury, the Federal Reserve, The SEC, The Department of Homeland Security and major Wall Street Banks will simulate a cyber attack in a drill called Quantum Dawn 2.

    …… During the exercise, which runs from 9 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. in New York, participants will receive blasts of vague and confusing information about what appears to be a hacker attack on fake trading and information platforms that are not plugged into actual markets.

  5. CoJonesGrandes  June 13, 2013 at 7:39 am

    ….. agency employees are using various NSA data mining and surveillance systems …. to snoop on their wives and ex-spouses. In addition, some NSA employees have offered to sell such information to individuals outside of NSA …..

    …. The trafficking in NSA surveillance data for personal use and gain is known to NSA officials but they have made no move to curtail the abuses …. wives and ex-spouses who have complained to NSA …. have been met with harassment from NSA’s internal security force, known as the “Q Group.”…

  6. CoJonesGrandes  June 13, 2013 at 6:12 am

    In this video, the guy is talking about a Congressman (Republican representative Jeff Duncan of South Carolina) who noticed that IRS agents were training with AR15 assault rifles during his DHS tour.

  7. CoJonesGrandes  June 13, 2013 at 12:59 am

    Another article from Jon Rappoport – it’s s turf war between the CIA and the NSA

    Did the CIA give the NSA documents to Ed Snowden?

  8. shachalnur  June 13, 2013 at 12:04 am

    For Gordon,

    Just read your piece on PressTV.

    Half the piece is about Snowdon saying so little after “29 years in the CIA”.

    First of all Snowdon IS 29 years old.

    He worked in the CIA for four years.

    Might be better to go through it again,cause some of your conclusions are based on these errors.

    I agree with you that Israel is behind the leaks, but that Obama is the good guy and the victim?


    • shachalnur  June 13, 2013 at 12:06 am

      Oops sorry,

      “Are whistleblowers sometimes too good to be true”

    • Jim Fetzer  June 13, 2013 at 5:52 am

      Why are you making comments like this? There has been enormous interest in this article, which, as I have explained, appears to be to me true. I deal with complex and controversial issues. If you think he has something wrong, then SPELL IT OUT and explain why you think he is mistaken.

    • shachalnur  June 13, 2013 at 10:05 am

      Hello Dr. Fetzer,

      There might be some confusion.

      I read Gordon Duff’s article on PressTV just after it was posted.

      in short, amongst other things, he said Snowden was in the CIA “for 29 years”.

      One of his conclusions was a rethoric question, “Why didn’t he say anything about 9/11; he was there and knew it all?”

      I see today that Mr.Duff edited his piece and that the mistakes have been corrected.

      Eversince this leak was published, I’ve been waiting for Mr. Dean and Mr. Duff’s take on things.

      And now Mr.Duff writes a piece, but again it has various errors.

      Very uncaracteristic for Mr.Duff, who is usually spot on.

      Still, the piece has mistakes, since Mr. Duff asks the question how a CIA insider only leaks about the NSA.

      Snowden worked 4 years for CIA in Geneva years ago and was currently working for Booz Allen as a contractor for NSA.

      I just wanted to warn Mr.Duff for the errors in the article. It looks like this warning arrived, since it’s been corrected.

      But nothing from Mr. Dean yet.

      I feel this whole case has rattled commenters like Mr. Duff, since this story is contradicting most of the beliefs people like Mr.Duff hold.

      He also concludes this might be an Israeli operation, which is consistent with a prediction I made 6 months ago of a leaking war between Obama and Israel.

      This whole story shakes the foundations of his opinion of Obama and Russia working together and of Mr. Obama being the good guy. That’s gonna change it all.

      If it’s not this, then what is happening?

      China wants answers from the US. (Snowden has said that the US has been hacking China and Hong Kong for years) and that it will take years to process an asylum request.

      It looks more and more like Israel has turned on Obama and joined the BRICS.

      Obama (and GB and France) are contemplating weapons and no-fly zones for Syria. My guess is they won’t do a thing because Israel is blackmailing them.

      It’s BRICS+Israel against Rothschild-controlled US/Europe.

      Still, the mistakes in Mr. Duff’s article baffle me.

  9. Ann  June 12, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    Thank you for that response, Angus. Our country is indebted to you and others like you who try to unravel the viscous and treasonous attacks on our service personnel, the very ones in trusted with our defense. What a torturous twist of truth and honor when military officers, sworn to uphold the Constitution and defend us with their own lives, and who do so of their own free will for nothing but love of country, are in the end destroyed by venal and vapid traitors at the helm of governance who should in fact be secured in a facility for the criminally insane. Nevermind. One of these days the Augean Stables will be cleaned out but good and we will see the puppeteers for the hoodlums they are. They are using their hidden hand routine to create as much havoc as they can but it will not last, they have lost the cloak of invisibility and are now fleeing the ever expanding light like cockroaches.

    Those mentioned in TCA have long since gone to judgement and reward, and are rightly revered for their valor. It is imperative to keep their names familiar, and make their memories permanent on a school, military base or training facility, or something similar. Col. Cutolo must have been a man of extraordinary intelligence, integrity, and fortitude, to collect and organize all that information and keep it away from the malefactors who circled him like wolves every day and yet not slip once to draw attention from them. He must have known what would happen once the vermin noticed him separating from them, yet he continued, choosing to fall on his own sword rather than dishonor himself or his country. He was a classic Roman in every way. And yet the average West Point cadet has no idea who he was, nor Col. Rowe. That place has turned into a beauty parlor for showoffs. They are prima donnas with guns. Give me one good reason why it should continue as is.

    Do not withhold your thoughts and comments for the reasons you mentioned, you never know who is reading and who might be reached and changed by them. Perhaps some of those who have been lured into the matrix might read your response and return to the path of decency. And yes–Serva Fidem–I will keep the faith.

    • Ann  June 12, 2013 at 7:16 pm

      should be “entrusted”

  10. CoJonesGrandes  June 12, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    More from Tom Heneghan on the market rigging. I have no idea how reliable this info is.

    …. U.S. Military FLAG OFFICERS have fingered the …. NSA … along with …. Booz Allen and the multi million dollar hedge fund, the Carlyle Group, in using NSA technology to rig (on behalf of crooked worldwide banks) the entire global financial market.

    Carlyle Group (tied to the Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate) just bought an encrypted coded NSA trading platform from Booz Allen, which gives Carlyle Group and their crooked worldwide bank allies a five second lead time on all worldwide financial trading.

  11. cascadedavid  June 12, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Christine Mann This very odd story is ALL about China. Its about presenting China as the hero…the rescuer. They will rescue us from this global tyranny.Thats what they r prepping the masses to accept. China is being lauded as a champion of civil rights. R U F’ing kidding me?!!! “Whistle-blowing is a hot topic in China right now. So hot, in fact, that the country’s state-run TV broadcaster, CCTV, recently named online whistleblowers as its equivalent of Time magazine’s “person of the year.” This may have been an attempt to co-opt the increasingly popular practice of posting about local government corruption on social media, but the award certainly reflects a rising belief in China that the government can’t be trusted and that regular people have to hold them accountable by acting as citizen activists”. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/10/this-is-the-definition-of-heroism-snowden-lauded-in-china/

    Snowden lauded in China: ‘This is the definition of heroism’
    Web users in the country seem to see him as both a fellow activists against corruption and a repudiation of Western lecturing.
    Like · Reply · 1 · Yesterday at 1:50am

    Christine Mann as if the supposed whistleblowing in China is real…would the Chinese govt really ever allow that??? No freakin way. If ppl believe this we r n deep deep trouble.

  12. homunculus  June 11, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    An interesting take on the Snowden situation from former NSA, Jim Stone:


    • Jim Fetzer  June 12, 2013 at 9:04 am

      This exchange was posted on the LBJ thread but belongs here instead:

      June 12, 2013 – 7:48 am(Edit)

      Jim, with all of the msm attention given to this now, you have to admit that it’s starting to smell funny. Sorry it’s off topic, but I saw that you had just posted here.


      A friend made the observation that the US has been handed over to China with ease. Kissenger’s recent comments reveal that TPTB may already be running China by proxy.

      Jim Fetzer
      June 12, 2013 – 7:53 am(Edit)

      Why not post it on the right thread rather than here? And who has done more to draw attention
      to the massive surveillance program being run by the NSA than this guy? You are very naive if
      you think NSA would not (a) try to change the topic and (b) attempt to discredit him. UNREAL!


      June 12, 2013 – 8:14 am(Edit)

      I explained why.

      There have been lots of whistle blowers, and msm never say a word about them. Maybe it is you who is naive. I thought that you where open minded, and looked at things from all angles… guess I was wrong…

      Jim Fetzer
      June 12, 2013 – 8:35 am(Edit)

      The guy is an American hero! Do you know that a subcommittee of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Intelligence released a report on 3 October 2012 in which it explained that, after surveying 680 “fusion center” reports (where “fusion centers” merge federal, state and local anti-terrorism efforts) from 2009-2010, it had found NO INDICATIONS OF ANY DOMESTIC TERRORIST ACTIVITY? NONE. ZERO. ZILCH. NADA. And yet you would fall for the ploy of distracting attention from this MASSIVE SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM to attack the man who exposed it to the public? I am sorry, but that is not being “closed minded”. I simply disagree with you, which is not the same thing. Give this more thought.

      June 12, 2013 – 8:45 am(Edit)

      When China is lauded as the hero, and the protectors of free speech that we know that they’ve always been, then maybe we can take another look at it, sir.

      Jim Fetzer
      June 12, 2013 – 8:48 am(Edit)

      What in God’s name? China has nothing to do with this. What conceivable benefit derives
      to the national security state from exposing its massive surveillance program? I am about
      to move all of these posts–which are irrelevant here–to the other article about all this.

    • cascadedavid  June 12, 2013 at 1:33 pm

      I cant wait to see how this develops… http://www.boozallen.com/insights/insight-detail/chinese-cyber-espionage Follow the interests… Along Christine’s post that I pasted above there are a few reasons not to accept this at face value.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 12, 2013 at 9:30 pm

      For an alternative take on Doug Hagmann, who turns out to be more controversial than I had been aware, see http://ken-welch.com/Reports/Hagmann.html

    • Jim Fetzer  June 13, 2013 at 5:49 am

      This is stupid. Sources are not the basis for truth. When I encounter something interesting that addresses important subjects and that stimulates my thinking, I am inclined to share it. This article is a perfect example. That I post an article does not mean or imply that I therefore agree with everything it claims. This one has proven to be of enormous interest.

      When you have a bone to pick, you really need to make your case. Gratuitious smears like this one do not become you. It commits the genetic fallacy, which discounts a claim on the basis of its source. If you want to make a case, THEN MAKE IT, which you have not done even in this case. You are making too many cheap remarks like this one for me not to question your motives.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 13, 2013 at 11:31 am

      I am sorry, but you long since lost all credibility with me. I do not always agree with Gordon–and the response to this article suggests that I am right in this instance and he is wrong. If you had any good reasons for impugning my research, that would be something. But I have asked you to PRODUCE PROOF I AM WRONG and all you can do is cite others who may disagree with me, WHICH IS NOT EVIDENCE. I have explained that just because I publish something someone else has written does not imply that I agree with all of it. But the interest in this has been enormous–indeed, even truly profound!

    • cascadedavid  June 13, 2013 at 2:00 pm


      I’m not saying that you’re wrong. I have neither the resources nor the training that you have. That’s why I posted what I did to you. Stock trading experts can check for irregularities regarding Booz Allen Hamilton, The Carlyle Group, etc. If state owned media in China is backing this guy, don’t you think that it deserves more investigation? I think that Kissenger Is saying something important that maybe has something to do with this.

      My intention was to help. You’ve been helpful in the past, when I have asked questions. We have all been fooled by these guys many times, and will be again. They are masters of deception. It’s what they do.

  13. shachalnur  June 11, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Since nobody mentioned it;

    Glenn Greenwald said he’s got a lot more info that he’s gonna release “the coming weeks and months”.

    Why not now? Is this blackmail?

    Does Greenwald have huge balls, is he sick of life, or does he have very strong protection?

    There’s serious questions about how Snowden got so much info, considering his age, position and career.

    And now there’s much more.

    Who’s got Obama by the Presidential balls?

    PRISM is Verizon and Nerus, two Israeli companies.

    How deeply israel is involved you can read in Ha’aretz, Israeli newspaper, which is carrying 5 articles a day explaining Israel has been spying on US citizens.

    I’m not joking.

    Like I predicted 8 months ago, Israel and Obama are at war, and this will be fought through blackmail, leaks and Israel aligning itself with Russia, Iran and other anti-Rothschild forces.

    After Obama nominated Rice and Power, Israeli deputy defense Minister Danon told Kerry to take a hike.

    Right now, officially, Obama is contemplating arming Al-qaida and imposing no-fly zone in Syria.

    If he goes ahead, Greenwald will give him lot’s of reasons to reconsider.

    So it begins….

  14. CoJonesGrandes  June 11, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Got some intel on the 4th July false flag that they’ve got planned.
    Watch this video which has been posted on the Abel Danger website.

    Message from Field McConnell:
    3:07 mins
    Yeah, these guys with the playbooks.
    They screwed up 9/11, they screwed up Diana, they screwed up Deepwater Horizon, they screwed up Fukushima, they screwed up Aurora, they screwed up Cuterhee(?), they screwed up Sandy Hook, they screwed up Boston.
    And if you want to see the mother of all screw ups, just take a look at a road race in Atlanta on July 4th.
    And if anybody can post or put up the road race course about the 2.5 mile into this road race, you’re going to go past Peachtree Battle and either next or previous, was Lindberghs.
    Between Peachtree Battle and Lindbergh, there may be a [inaudible] pickle

    Here’s a map of the Peachtree road race:

    Everyone – go take lots of pictures and videos and post them pronto on the internet.
    Or better still, can the militia, constitutional sheriffs and posses please go arrest the crises actors etc

  15. Mike Kay  June 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Dr. Fetzer,

    I can’t help but notice an overriding theme in the Hagman piece. First off, let me assert that Hagman has it right, with one exception-its actually worse, way worse. Its also too late to play chickenshit, so maybe mommyplayer and their like would prefer to cobble together their internment camp bugout bags now. Like I said, this ain’t pretty, and what the PTB are pretending is that they will be insulated and protected from the chaos they intend to unleash. In the words of Mr. Duff, I wish them luck with that.

    Now that the background is out of the way, the overwhelming theme here is F-E-A-R.
    Fear is actually a great thing when you are in danger, it gets you pumped and ready to act, but it is a very poor adviser. Fear urges people to do stupid stuff, like agreeing for the zio criminals in “congress” to thieve more unalienable rights.

    Those of us who believe in peace, who believe in natural and common law, the Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights know that any attempt to subvert these by the back door machinations of emotional midgets is illegitimate.

    Unfortunately for these psychological cripples, their schemes will not deliver them what they want, mostly because their twisted vacuous evil is not capable of comprehending the big picture, so they can’t account for all the variables that weigh in on them achieving their goals.

    Unfortunately for the rest of us, they are thoroughly capable of destroying just about anything, and mistaking this destruction for real power. That means they will wreck everything they can, to prove to themselves and others how mighty they are.

    If you think this might be pathetic, well, you are RIGHT!

    The only question in my mind is if the emotional midgets will be able to wreck the underlying support mechanisms for life before the rest of humanity wakes up to this and slaps the living crap out of them.

  16. shachalnur  June 10, 2013 at 12:04 pm


    Qui bono?

    Is Snowden a lone wolf,or is he executing someone’s agenda?

    Why all these leaks now?Most of this has been known for years.

    Who benefits from paralyzing Obama?

    Who is the DHS-insider?

    Is the stream of leaks gonna stop?

    Why are all these leaks connected ,directly or indirectly,to Israel?

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      Obama: “If You Can’t Trust Us, We’re Going To Have Problems”

      The following is authored by Kristin Tate at mrconservative.com:


      After a speech in San Jones, California, President Obama took only one question from the press regarding national security.

      The White House has recently been engulfed in a number of scandals, including the IRS targeting conservative groups, Benghazi, the Department of Justice targeting reporters, the Environmental Protection Agency’s secret email addresses — and now, the National Security Agency secretly collecting phone records of thousands of unknowing Americans.

      Paying no mind to these scandals, Obama fed reporters this line:

      “If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here.”

      …Really?! Maybe the lack of trust is due to the Obama administration being completely power-hungry and non-transparent.

      Obama concluded by saying, “You can shout Big Brother or program run amok, but if you actually look at the details, I think we’ve struck the right balance.”

      Wow. This is ridiculous. The whole thing would be hysterical — that is, if thousands of Americans hadn’t had their rights violated and been lied to.

    • Emma Yacht  June 10, 2013 at 1:11 pm

      For which circle of hell have we “struck the right balance”?

    • shachalnur  June 10, 2013 at 1:57 pm

      The hottest part.

      The balance between the Farmer and the Cattle.

    • shachalnur  June 10, 2013 at 1:23 pm

      The NSA info was leaked on 6/6/6 (= 2+0+1+3)

      The same day “1984” was published, 64 years ago.

      During the Bilderberg meeting.

      Obama is just executing orders, and “something” is sabotaging it.

      Won’t be long untill even the biggest sceptics will understand who’s leaking and why.

    • Derek X  June 10, 2013 at 1:36 pm

      Read somewhere that Israel wouldn’t mind Russian troops in the Golan. Maybe you are not so crazy after all.

    • shachalnur  June 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm

      Putin wouldn’t offer it if Israel wouldn’t agree,he can station troops outside the demilitarized zone without permission any time he wants.

      It’s a message from Israel and Russia to the US.

      So are the leaks.

    • shachalnur  June 10, 2013 at 1:48 pm

      Anybody catch this?:

      Amir Oren, Ha’aretz: “The outcry over PRISM and the question over an Israeli connection”(8/6/13).

      “The (US) government is nefariously attempting to invade the privacy of its citizens, subjugate them and turn them over to the UN’s world government”.

      In your face.

    • homunculus  June 10, 2013 at 1:58 pm

      Shach, the quote you provide is well out of context.

      The article you reference calls the statement you quote above “conspiratorial” and goes on to say that the belief that the US government is attempting to subjugate its citizens and so on “is typical of the American right-wing fringe, located somewhere between the fringes of the Republican Party and the Tea Party group. In a country of 310 million citizens, such fringes can contain several million people. They are ideologically opposed to the idea of encroachment on the space of the individual, wary that the slippery slope will lead to a thought police.”

    • shachalnur  June 10, 2013 at 4:11 pm

      I’m aware of that, Homunculus.

      Google the article or go to the website and you’ll see you have to subscribe and pay to read the whole article.

      So they place only a few sentences and that’s what the majority of people will read.

      Israeli journalists are a lot cleverer than they seem, censorship being the cause.

      Conspiracy theory? Formulated this way? Is there anything in that sentence most Americans don’t agree with by now?

      Ynet had another one yesterday, but can’t find it.

      2nd in Defense Dept. Danon told Kerry to take a hike a few days ago and Kerry did.

      Yesterday, Nethanyahu’s new “Red Line” on Iran is “250 kilos of 20% LEU”.

      Israel is very pissed, and Obama had better duck–he’s out of his league.

    • homunculus  June 10, 2013 at 4:32 pm

      Actually the whole article is available : )

    • shachalnur  June 11, 2013 at 1:37 am


      You’re confusing the Rothschild Banker Cabal and Likud mad dogs.

      They’re not the same and are fighting with one another now.

      Rothschild wants to enslave you, Israel wants to survive.

  17. JS  June 10, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    Dr Fetzer, I carefully read your previous related article, Spy State Shock, but didn’t have time to comment. In the PRISM slides, Apple was the last major holdout, signing on with the government in Oct. 2012, just last fall, after resisting for 5 years. I note that this happened barely a year after Steve Jobs’ death in Oct. 2011. It bothers me that Jobs’ death was so convenient for the NWO. He died of pancreatic cancer in 2011, 7 years after he successfully dealt with cancer in 2004. The cancer, the second time (maybe even the first time) may have been induced.

    • JS  June 10, 2013 at 12:11 pm

      I forgot to add, the news this weekend was that 50 companies had signed on to helping with the spying. I haven’t seen a list of all those, but I assume that’s all the major players in hardware, software, ISPs, telephone and cable, cloud computing, etc. That makes Apple’s resistance even more impressive.

  18. Preston James, Ph.D  June 10, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Great article that if true has astounding ramifications for all Americans even those asleep at the wheel. A careful read shows that Prof. Fetzer does not claim that this report from an “alleged DHS insider” is Gospel truth, but that the background stories which have been published all over the net including some mainstream news create a secnario that could easily play out this way should the SSG decide to go that direction (all the pieces have been set in place if they decide to do so, but they have other options too and certain other world power factions are now at play which may affect any decisons to act.

    I see no reason for the snippy attitudes of those that feel certain that the pretexts presented in this article are way off base because they are not. If you think this cannot happen, say so or say nothing. Personally I am glad that Prof. Fetzer is willing to provide articles written by others which provide interesting claims and interpretations of current USG deviance.

    It does remain an open question whether or not the SSG will choose to fully utilize all these carefully instituted national security and intel collection mechanisms which can be used to institute a full blown police state with use of false-flags and provocations.

    • Raptor  June 11, 2013 at 5:53 am


      The reason for the attitude is quite simple, if you’re truly ignorant of it then I’m the Pope..It’s the marketing of fear based propaganda, an age old intel tactic, one apparently very much alive and well here at the VT..I find that part and parcel to all things you seem to despise only to end up defending…It’s why I say that you can’t have this both ways….so which is it?

      In essence what this article is ACTUALLY DOING is distracting via fear which is clearly being used as a diversion tactic..Why? Well my take is probably a bit to simple for the likes of such sophisticated bullshit psyop agents..Yes my opinion, sorry for leaving off the varnish.

      What none here are talking about is exactly what this piece is intended to cover up by using fear…so it is effective in that regard.

      Let’s talk about the law, the rule of law, that which is embraced by those making the rules by the light of day, yet IGNORED in the dark where they are at their most comfortable. Just WHO I ask has broken the law here? Who has abused the constitution? The person who came forward, or those with the multi billion dollar budget? Maybe those who call for his head on a Pike!!! What about them going public with their asinine call for justice in the media?

      How can this be ignored by those who claim to be opening a line for discussion, communication ETC.?? The idea is a simple one…..Give the citizen a choice..Do you follow? The choice of being like this 29 year old leaker who’s hunting down will play out on National TV, eventually ending up imprisoned or worse…OR by jolly…..accept a bit of inconvenience from Big Brother as they continue their assault on the thing Bush referred to as being merely a piece of paper!!!

      Which will the average Joe end up opting for? Surely we all know the real answer to this one.. So let’s discuss it…who’s the traitor? Who’s the real criminal ? Who’s really serious about the rights of free men and women?

      One last thing…..How is it possible for some blowhard member of Congress to stand up and shout ” I demand an investigation into this matter immediately ” only to sit on their fat ass and watch the person who brought this to light go down in flames while not even lifting a finger, or uttering one word on his behalf??????????

      I’d be interested in seeing someone with a bit of a following take on these questions in an open format..


    • mommyplayer  June 11, 2013 at 8:19 pm

      I am getting increasing fearful of posting on VT because of articles like this one, but there are other recent articles saying the same also. And now I know from VT what an ad hominum attack is as well. I guess I am just susceptible to it and it is exactly WHY I CAN SEE THE TRUTH OF IT too. To others more protected or more enured from years of awakening, the effect wont be there. But to a newly awakened one, alas I am facing a crossroads of giving up, a crossroads of futility in getting the masses to stick their necks out with me. How can we get the message out if everything is monitored and FEMA camps are in our back yard? This is a very vulnerable time to receive such information. Although I still cant believe the USG really cares about lil’ ole’ me, I do have an actual job.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 11, 2013 at 8:21 pm

      Good for you, mommyplayer. I am very glad you are willing to “stick your neck out”. That’s precisely what ALL OF US must do!

    • mommyplayer  June 13, 2013 at 9:52 pm

      The more of us that speak out the harder it will be to keep track. Our safety is amassing numbers. Putting all of us in a FEMA camp together alive might make an interesting mixture, a critical mass. So now I remember the mass graves they dug too.

      Well I guess I didnt shut up after all. I dont want to be a coward. I must have been motivated by the others speaking out on this blog.

    • Preston James, Ph.D  June 12, 2013 at 11:07 pm

      Yes, eliciting fear to paralyze the folks who are asleep at the wheel often only makes them more asleep and can make unstable folks agitated and more irrational and counterproductive. It can, however, wake up those who are starting to understand how the USG has been hijacked by dual citizens and foreign bankster interests working with a very large defense industry.

      If it draws new attention and stimulates folks to check things out for themselves and do their own research then that is good, even if they find out that such an article is a gross exaggeration of some minimally valid basic precepts.

      Gross exaggerations and confabulations of valid concerns into “immediate emergencies” is an old psyops trick used to create the effect of crying wolf too many times which can extinguish normal concern in folks.

      If Hagman is legit, fine; if not, that’s okay too, because everyone should compare his claims to the best available evidence and draw their own conclusions no matter what he is. But as always they shoud use any claims as working hypothesis to be evaluated interms of all the evidence they can reasonably gather.

      If psyops are used to make folks feel completely overwhelmed and hopless, this prevents action. Sometimes a situation can be closer to a critical turning point than many realize so getting paralyzed and stopping efforts to wake friends up is not constructive. But gaining a realistic view of what the situation is quite constructive.

      This is an article that should get us all putting on our thinking caps before we jump to any conclusions other than the fact that there are so many readers implies that this subject is of high interest to many who visit VT for articles.

  19. Yukon Jack  June 10, 2013 at 11:19 am

    There is a serious disconnect from reality with Hagmann-Quayle-Deyo-Jonestown “Christian” patriot alliance.


    I love these guys but there is a problem Houston. They are trying to have a rational discourse on the New World bankster takeover of America and framing it in terms of their literalist beliefs. This is a disaster for us getting a consensus on what to do.

    They are constantly fearing the NWO attack on Christianity yet can not see how their pro-Israeli sentiments are connected. What they do not understand is that most people are very tolerant of another’s religion but your faith becomes a problem when it is politicized. Americans are very tolerant bunch of renegades, we really don’t care which myth you choose so long as you keep it to yourself. Evangelical Christians are aligned with Israel in spirit but Israel is the enemy that did 911. If you can not name the enemy, or you refuse to discuss Israeli involvement in 911 then who’s side are you on?

    If Hagmann wants some credibility with us thinkers he better start talking about the Jews.

    Israel did 911, deal with it. Muslims are the framed patsies. Christians see this opportunity to destroy Islam in the current war, why should we tolerate Christianity if they do not tolerate another religion? All Abrahamic religions are based on myth, disproven superstitious ideas of judgmental sky gods. Joseph Atwill’s latest book “Ceaser’s Messiah” (www.caesarsmessiah.com/‎) seriously undermines the historical Jesus, he proves that he is a literary invention of the Roman ruling Flavian dynasty. The rock of Christianity just sunk beneath the waves of human conscious evolution.

    If Christianity is villified in the future it will be because of its political alliance with the murderous state of Israel and because its adherents willfully refuse to grow out of myth based consciousness, not because the NWO is after them. On the patriot boards everyone knows that the New World Order is really a Jewish World Order, a salient point that Doug Hagmann never states on his radio show.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 11:28 am

      Look. I am not endorsing his personal life-style, his religious beliefs or his choice of deodorant. I think what he is reporting here is on the mark and deserves publicity. It is stimulating a lot of thought right here/right now. So I make no apologies for republishing it here.

  20. Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 10:49 am

    What you tried to tell me and what he is telling the American people are the same.

    In fact, there is so much evidence that what he is staying is TRUE that I am at a

    loss as to why so many are now attempting to discredit him. IF YOU CAN SHOW



    In addition to the dozens of other articles I have linked below, here are yet others:

    NSA – Prism Created By Isreali SiSense – Linked to EMC Google Yahoo Facebook Spying On Citizens

    NSA outsourcing its domestic spying to Israel

    NSA, the secret AT&T spy room, 2 Israeli companies, and loss of American privacy

    NSA telephone, Internet spying data shared with British Intelligence — RT News

    A Child’s Guide to Why NSA Surveillance is Bad

    Surveillance USA

    Clapper denied NSA surveillance before Senate panel in March testimony

    NSA: Everyone’s a Terrorist | Breaking the Set

    Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?

    Ex-NSA Director – US Surveillance Expanded Under Obama

    Bush-Era Spying ‘Made Legal’ Under Obama

    DHS Insider – It s About To Get Very Ugly

    Obama: Mass Surveillance Protects Civil Liberties

    DHS Defends Suspicion-Less Searches Of Laptops, Cell Phones

    NSA, The Secret AT&T Spy Room And 2 Israeli Companies

    Obama Invokes Special Privilege To Stop Scrutiny Of Data Mining

    Obama Shamelessly Defended His Government Spying Program – Government Does Not Listen To Your Phone Calls – Ron Wyden Begs To Differ!

    Cavuto – ‘I’m Not Going to Play This Game with You! … Cut His Damn Mic!” | InvestmentWatch

    Unconstitutional US Data-Mining

    CISPA Will Legalize PRISM Spy Program

    Police Want ‘Kill Switch’ To Disable Smartphone

    Will Obamacare Mandate RFID Implants?

    The Singapore way of censorship: blogs must be licensed, license costs $39500

    The Government’s Identity Thieves » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

    Are Political Dissidents the Real Target of NSA’s PRISM?

    Are You a Transgenic Organism? (Mini-Documentary)

    CIA’s ‘Facebook’ Program Dramatically Cut Agency’s Costs

    One CT Scan Is Equal To 500 Chests X-Rays

    The Bushmeat Photographs Of Karl Ammann

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 2:25 pm

      Bush, Obama Long Denied Massive Data Trawling
      By Stephen Braun, Associated Press
      10 June 13

      or years, top officials of the Bush and Obama administrations dismissed fears about secret government data-mining by reassuring Congress that there were no secret nets trawling for Americans’ phone and Internet records.

      “We do not vacuum up the contents of communications under the president’s program and then use some sort of magic after the intercept to determine which of those we want to listen to, deal with or report on,” then-CIA Director Michael Hayden told a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in July 2006.

      But on Friday, President Barack Obama himself acknowledged the existence of such programs even as he gave the government’s standard rationale to ease fears that Americans’ privacy rights are being violated.

      “By sifting through this so-called metadata, they might identify potential leads of people who might engage in terrorism,” Obama said during an exchange with reporters at a health care event in San Jose, Calif.

      Obama’s comments marked the first time a U.S. president publicly acknowledged the government’s electronic sleuthing on its citizens. They came in response to media reports and published classified documents that detailed the government’s secret mass collection of phone and Internet communications.

      When top officials in the Obama and Bush administrations have been asked in recent years whether U.S. citizens’ communications were swept up as part of government surveillance, they’ve often responded with swift, flat denials. The denials were often carefully constructed to avoid any hints of the activities they were denying.

      Even Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, sidestepped what he described as a kerfuffle about his administration’s secret electronic intelligence-gathering.

      During a March 2006 appearance at the City Club of Cleveland, Bush described the NSA effort only as “a program that will enable us to listen from a known al-Qaida person and/or affiliate from making a phone call outside the United States in or inside the United States out, with the idea of being able to pick up quickly information for which to be able to respond in the environment we’re in.” He added: “I believe what I’m doing is constitutional, and I know it’s necessary. And so we’re going to keep doing it.”

      His vice president, Dick Cheney, was more blunt during a radio appearance, denying the government was engaging in domestic surveillance.

      “This is not a domestic surveillance program,” Cheney told radio host Hugh Hewitt, adding that “what we’re interested in are intercepting communications, one end of which are outside the United States and one end of which we have reason to believe is al-Qaida-related.”

      Technically, Cheney’s description of the program was accurate. His insistence that the Bush administration was not engaged in domestic surveillance is more debatable.

      Reports that first appeared in Britain’s Guardian newspaper and The Washington Post indicate that the NSA pulls in phone records, though not the actual content of the calls, from its secret warrants allowing it to collect data from major telecom companies. The program is aimed at detecting the calling patterns of terrorist suspects. A separate government program also collects massive amounts of data from at least nine Internet and electronic firms, pulling in everything from emails to photographs. Obama said Friday that the electronic data-mining is not aimed at American citizens or inside the U.S.

      Several top Bush administration officials adamantly insisted that the government was not engaged in mass data-trawling as part of its secret NSA programs.

      After a New York Times expose raised concerns about NSA targeting Americans’ phone records, Hayden told a National Press Club audience in January 2006 that there was no effort to cast a wide net over communications data.

      “This is targeted and focused,” said Hayden, the principal deputy director of national intelligence at the time. “This is not about intercepting conversations between people in the United States. This is hot pursuit of communications entering or leaving America involving someone we believe is associated with al-Qaida.”

      Bush’s attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, also minimized the reach of the NSA data-gathering, telling a Senate Judiciary hearing in February 2006 that “this surveillance is narrowly focused and fully consistent with the traditional forms of enemy surveillance found to be necessary in all previous armed conflicts.”

      Bush administration officials were repeatedly pressed by Congress about the NSA efforts in 2005 and 2006, as the Senate and House debated whether to extend the Patriot Act and many of its provisions that gave the government broad power to conduct surveillance and data collection. But once the Patriot Act’s main provisions were reauthorized and signed into law by Bush in March 2006, public congressional concerns over the NSA’s authority seemed to dissipate.

      A review of congressional transcripts shows that from 2006 well into Obama’s first term, top administration officials were rarely questioned publicly about the NSA’s data-gathering activities. Instead, the agency’s new director, Keith B. Alexander, was most often pressed about the NSA’s growing efforts in cyberwarfare and security.

      It was not until May 2011, as the Patriot Act again faced another reauthorization, that the NSA’s secret programs began to receive cryptic attention from two Democratic senators, Ron Wyden of Oregon and Mark Udall of Colorado. Hobbled by the classified nature of the secret programs, the two senators offered up only guarded warnings.

      “When the American people find out how their government has secretly interpreted the Patriot Act, they will be stunned and they will be angry,” Wyden said during a floor speech in May 2011. He added: “Many members of Congress have no idea how the law is being secretly interpreted by the executive branch, because that interpretation is classified.”

      Still hamstrung by the programs’ security classification in 2013, Wyden pressed National Intelligence Director James Clapper at a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing in March about the NSA. “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?” he asked.

      “No, sir,” Clapper replied. He added: “Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect but not wittingly.”

      This week, after the new revelations about the NSA’s massive data haul, Clapper acknowledged the existence of both of the agency’s secret operations and denounced the media disclosures as “reprehensible.”

      When contacted by the National Journal about his earlier exchange with Wyden, Clapper stood by his earlier comments denying that the NSA is collecting massive troves of data.

      “What I said was, the NSA does not voyeuristically pore through U.S. citizens’ emails,” Clapper said. “I stand by that.”

    • Jim Fetzer  June 11, 2013 at 7:33 am

      Tomer, Thanks for the clarification. I agree with everything you say about Obama–and have made most of those points on my radio show and during interviews. He is also STANDING BEHIND this massive surveillance program. He is betraying the Constitution and his oath to defend it.

  21. Yukon Jack  June 10, 2013 at 10:47 am

    Douglas Hagmann is a frequent quest on Alex Jones disinfowars radio show, “its the Nazis”. The Hagmann group (pro Israel Christians that never mention Jews or Zionists) seem to have lots of secret advisors and informants, just last week close associate Steve Quayle interviewed “guerrilla economist”. lol A double top secret economist who going to tell us from his hidden underground lair that the system is ready to implode and we should buy silver until both hands bleed.

    Steve Quayle who’s on Hagmann’s show weekly is known for his literal Biblical beliefs and is the number one promoter of giants, giant humans 36′ tall.


    The obvious question is that can you trust pro-Israel Bible thumpers information stream?

  22. adamevenson  June 10, 2013 at 10:08 am

    @ burntwood: You are the first and only commenter I have read since I began using the Internet before when Win 95 had been upgraded, that seems to know the tiny details that I know. I have been living in the world you touch on since at least the early Sixties. At this point in my life I have been zeroed in on so thoroughly that I don’t believe I come close to any individual in my walk-a-day life that doesn’t gather intel on me and report to somebody in a chain of command. I take it for granted that I am being filmed, recorded and scrutinized 24-7, and even more, I am constantly fending off attacks against what I consider my ordinary thought processes. If I assert, “This is that,” somebody close to me will reply, “Not it’s not. You are wrong.” Then he or she will propose some wacky concept that I have to dismiss entirely. For example, I have logged a large number of individuals that came into my life whose sole purpose seemed to be to convince me that it was impossible that 9-11 was an inside job, that the government is good and great and will endure forevermore, and that I should just kick back and support whatever government is in power at the moment. There is virtually not another soul close to me that believes the truth about what is actually going on, such as Veteran’s Today reports on. It is as though a whole geography of people have quietly moved in close to me with one agenda: convince adamevenson that the United States is as it always has been and always will be, which is calm, collected, well-ordered, honest, true and all-powerful.

    At the grocery store I began noticing a checkout clerk, a woman, that seemed itchy to speak with me about realities alternative to the normal Stepford Wives variety that exist around me (physically) as far as my eyes can see. She was quite hungry to hear me say, “There is a darker reality here than meets the eye.” But once she had penetrated me to that point, and I said, “In fact, it’s more than only dark, it is the darkest of the dark and if I were you, I’d try to be prepared for heavy disruptions of my ordinary, taken-for-granted realities, especially those regarding government,” it was as though I had touched her with a hot iron. Now she behaves as though she is a little bit afraid of me. Associates that are close to her avoid meeting my gaze now, as though they have all gotten together and discussed my “pathology” and adopted a herd defense against me.

    I wouldn’t doubt that the government has implants in my dog that monitor me. Thus, if you folks think you have it bad, come live with me for a little while.

  23. Serious Dad  June 10, 2013 at 9:27 am

    First: Good job, Jim. Keep it coming – and always watch your six.

    Second – quote: “War, and censorship under the color of authority and under the pretext of of national security. It’s about to get a lot uglier.”

    This scenario is playing out exactly after the playbook for the takeover of Germany by the Nazi-Party in 1933 – I know, because I am german and have studied recent german history in-depth.

    What is needed now is a second Smedley D. Butler, to take America back from Obama and his minions-in-betrayal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

    Again: Yes, I am german. But I am deeply concerned, that Germany’s last-century’s infamous history is about to be repeated in the USA under the disguise of “security”.

    The stinge of fascism coming from Washington stinks to the high Heavens, actually.

    PRISM, anyone?

  24. haroldsmith  June 10, 2013 at 6:57 am

    Apparently the “DHS” is the contemporary “American” version of the mostly-Jewish Cheka.

    As Bro. Nathanael Kapner points out (here ……http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=809), many if not most of the top offices in DHS are held by Jews. (And as “government” excesses and atrocities get worse and worse, they will need a Jewish majority in lower-level positions too, as they will be increasingly unable to rely on traitorous Goy opportunists to do their dirty work).

    So, we have large ammo purchases, internment camps, false-flag operations on a regular basis, thinly veiled attempts to confiscate guns, massive, unprecedented spying and eavesdropping on the sheeple, etc., etc., etc., and to put it all into Historical context, we have this:

    “Well-informed observers, both inside and outside of Russia, took note at the time of the crucial Jewish role in Bolshevism. Winston Churchill, for one, warned in an article published in the February 8, 1920, issue of the London Illustrated Sunday Herald that Bolshevism is a “worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality.” The eminent British political leader and historian went on to write:13

    There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate, Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek — all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combatting Counter-Revolution [the Cheka] has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses

    Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people.

    David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”14

    The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, made much the same point a few months later: “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”15

    “The Bolshevik Revolution,” declared a leading American Jewish community paper in 1920, “was largely the product of Jewish thinking, Jewish discontent, Jewish effort to reconstruct.”16

    As an expression of its radically anti-nationalist character, the fledgling Soviet government issued a decree a few months after taking power that made anti-Semitism a crime in Russia. The new Communist regime thus became the first in the world to severely punish all expressions of anti-Jewish sentiment.17 Soviet officials apparently regarded such measures as indispensable. Based on careful observation during a lengthy stay in Russia, American-Jewish scholar Frank Golder reported in 1925 that “because so many of the Soviet leaders are Jews anti-Semitism is gaining [in Russia], particularly in the army [and] among the old and new intelligentsia who are being crowded for positions by the sons of Israel.”18

    Historians’ Views

    Summing up the situation at that time, Israeli historian Louis Rapoport writes:19

    Immediately after the [Bolshevik] Revolution, many Jews were euphoric over their high representation in the new government. Lenin’s first Politburo was dominated by men of Jewish origins

    Under Lenin, Jews became involved in all aspects of the Revolution, including its dirtiest work. Despite the Communists’ vows to eradicate anti-Semitism, it spread rapidly after the Revolution — partly because of the prominence of so many Jews in the Soviet administration, as well as in the traumatic, inhuman Sovietization drives that followed. Historian Salo Baron has noted that an immensely disproportionate number of Jews joined the new Bolshevik secret police, the Cheka And many of those who fell afoul of the Cheka would be shot by Jewish investigators.

    The collective leadership that emerged in Lenin’s dying days was headed by the Jew Zinoviev, a loquacious, mean-spirited, curly-haired Adonis whose vanity knew no bounds.

    “Anyone who had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the Cheka,” wrote Jewish historian Leonard Schapiro, “stood a very good chance of finding himself confronted with, and possibly shot by, a Jewish investigator.”20 In Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history.21 (Beginning as the Cheka, or Vecheka) the Soviet secret police was later known as the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD and KGB.)

    In light of all this, it should not be surprising that Yakov M. Yurovksy, the leader of the Bolshevik squad that carried out the murder of the Tsar and his family, was Jewish, as was Sverdlov, the Soviet chief who co-signed Lenin’s execution order.22″

    Above is from here: …http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

  25. Raptor  June 10, 2013 at 4:49 am

    This is a bullshit chicken little kind of article. Not worthy of further comment, Period.


    • gerryhiles  June 10, 2013 at 5:23 am

      Neat story line for a novel though … “I felt like I was part of a spy movie set in our nation’s capital. A chill rose up my spine as I waited in the dark of a chilly, misty and foggy pre-dawn morning.”

      Enter 007 stage left.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 5:27 am

      Which of the following are also wrong, in your opinion?

      “Turning America into Gaza”

      “Spy State Shock: ALL Social Media sharing with NSA”

      “Senate Betrays Constitution for Israel: Commitment to attack Iran”

      “US Government preemptively Gears Up for your Demise”

      “Boston Bombing: New Hampshire vs. Jim Fetzer”

      “Obama violates US and International Law in Pakistan”

      “DHS Whistleblower: War on Terror a Charade”

      “Welcome to Amerika: No More Truth, Justice or American Way”

      “Winner Take All: Why DHS is gearing up for War”

      “Why gun control is bad for America”

      “Homeland Security: The Unanswered Questions”

      “Scorecard: How many rights have Americans really lost?”

      “The Nexus of Tyranny: The Strategy behind Tucson, Aurora and Sandy Hook”

      “Sandy Hook: Huge Hoax and Anti-Gun ‘Psy Op'”

      “Homeland Security: Preparing for Massive Civil War”

      “Fusion and Fear in America: The non-existent ‘terrorist threat'”

      “From America to Amerika: The End Game”

      There is quite a lot more. Do you detect a pattern here?

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 6:59 am

      Commentary: America’s New Normal: Mass Surveillance, Secret Courts and Death to Whistleblowers

      June 10, 2013
      By John W. Whitehead

      “The administration has now lost all credibility. Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive branch will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it.” ­­– New York Times editorial board

      “Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten – and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state.” – Edward Snowden, alleged source of NSA leaks

      There is a deep and abiding sense of unease permeating American society. From the IRS targeting politically conservative groups to the Department of Justice targeting journalists for surveillance, from the revelation that the National Security Agency (NSA) is tracking the telephone calls of most Americans to the public spectacle of whistleblower Bradley Manning’s trial, in recent weeks there has been no shortage of evidence that the new “normal” in the United States is not friendly to freedom.

      The America we learned about in school, the one celebrated in songs and poems, the one to which our ancestors flocked in hopes of starting a new life based upon promises of wealth and liberty, is getting harder to find with every passing day. As I document in my new book, A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State (available at Amazon.com), the American ideal of freedom and civic involvement is being replaced by a technocratic nightmare in which government bureaucrats and their allies in the corporate sector rig the rules of society in order to protect the power and privilege of a select few politicians and businessmen. All the while, the majority of the American people are kept in check via debt, imprisonment, and a vast surveillance network which keeps us monitored, controlled and marching in lock step with the government’s dictates.

      If any of this sounds fantastical, it’s only because people haven’t been paying close enough attention. Why, in the past week alone, the government has doubled down on its attacks on individual liberty, government transparency, the rule of law, and basic human decency.

      On Wednesday, June 5, it was revealed that the NSA has been systematically collecting information on all telephone calls placed in the United States via the Verizon network. Based upon a top-secret order handed down by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) in April 2013, Verizon has been forced to hand over its records to the NSA on an “ongoing, daily basis.” While the government insists that the content of telephone conversations are not recorded, they acknowledge that telephone numbers, location data, call duration, and other unique identifiers are sent to the NSA for analysis. The NSA collects information on about 3 billion phone calls per day.

      Immediately following the revelation of the secret court order allowing the NSA to record the telephone activities of Verizon customers, The Washington Post released a top-secret document outlining a project code-named PRISM, which involves the NSA and FBI “tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio and video chats, photographs, e-mails, documents, and connection logs that enable analysts to track foreign targets.” These companies include Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple.

      PRISM was born at the tail end of President Bush’s disastrous program of warrantless surveillance. It depends in part on legislation passed by Congress in 2007 and 2008, the Protect America Act and FISA Amendments Act, which provide immunity to private companies that voluntarily cooperate with government efforts to collect private data on users. Government officials are increasingly relying upon PRISM for data collection as the program has become the “most prolific contributor to the President’s Daily Brief” and nearly one in seven intelligence reports rely primarily on information extracted via the program.

      While shocking to some, these revelations are par for the course for our out-of-control government. Relying on secret orders handed down from government officials and the courts and emboldened by members of Congress with little concern for protecting the rights of the citizenry, government agents are now able to flout all safeguards to privacy while still claiming that they are technically acting within the bounds of the law.

      This is no trifling matter. Senators Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Mark Udall (D-CO) have warned that Americans are the subject of a surveillance program that knows no bounds. As Udall has warned, “there is nothing to prohibit the intelligence community from searching through a pile of communications, which may have been incidentally or accidentally collected without a warrant, to deliberately search for the phone calls or e-mails of specific Americans.” For his part, Wyden has asked NSA staff to disclose the number of Americans whose communications have been collected, but NSA officials continue to stonewall, even going so far as to suggest that estimating the number of Americans whose communications have been collected would violate their privacy rights.

      In full damage control mode, the government wants us to believe that the surveillance is primarily directed at communications coming from foreign sources and that “reasonable procedures [are] in place to minimize collection of ‘U.S. persons’ data without a warrant.” However, as we are learning, the government rarely tells the truth.

      In typical fashion, intelligence officials spent the week attacking journalists for reporting on the NSA’s secret surveillance programs, with Director of National Intelligence James Clapper calling the leaks “reprehensible” and vowing to prosecute whomever chose to leak the information. On Sunday, former CIA employee and NSA contractor Edward Snowden came forward as the source of the NSA leaks. Speaking from Hong Kong, Snowden insisted that the information needed to be seen by the American public, in part to “send a message to government that people will not be intimidated.”

      Snowden’s actions speak to the need for greater citizen action and transparency in government, two qualities sorely lacking in America today. Typical of Beltway politics, however, rather than holding the government accountable for its systematic and illegal surveillance of American citizens, they’re looking to shoot the messenger. Indeed, the heads of both the House and Senate Intelligence committees, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI) and Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) have already come out in favor of Snowden’s prosecution.

      This is par for the course for the Obama administration, which has relentlessly pursued whistleblowers intent on exposing government crimes. Just ask Bradley Manning, whose court martial is underway. The government plans to call over 140 witnesses to the stand in an attempt to prove that Manning knowingly “aided the enemy” when he released hundreds of thousands of diplomatic cables outlining various government and military abuses to Wikileaks.

      If the government’s case succeeds, not only will Manning face life imprisonment, but whistleblowers and journalists alike who dare to hold a mirror to the bloated face of American government will find themselves targeted for censure and prosecution by government agents. Yet as veteran journalist Walter Lippmann once declared, “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.”

      Frankly, we should all be doing our part to shame this particular devil.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 11:21 am

      This is a gratuitous, unwarranted smear. Most of those articles are ones I myself authored. They are thoroughly sourced with ample links. I dislike the commission of elementary fallacies like yours here.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 11, 2013 at 7:53 am

      It dumbfounds me that an otherwise intelligent man cannot see the writing on the wall! I have given links to DOZENS OF ARTICLES, many of which I have authored myself (often in collaboration with others), which are well-sourced by multiple references. The content of this message is SO CLEARLY CONSISTENT WITH THOSE STUDIES that I am flummoxed that you persist in making these indefensible posts touting your own SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE AND INSIGHT. I agree that the presentation has a certain dramatic flare, which he may have adopted to make his message more accessible to a dim-witted audience. But for you to continue to TRASH THE CONTENT makes me think that ONE OF YOU may actually be disinfo!

    • Jim Fetzer  June 11, 2013 at 8:04 am

      A new article by Gordon Duff offers a glimmer of hope that Obama may actually be striving to make things come out right (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/31/306374/1st%2Dsupergovernmental%2Dworld%2Dwar%2Dbegins/). I hope he is correct:

      Sarajevo 2013, 99 years later

      The realities of today’s world conflict, one fought both “cold and hot,” false flag terrorism, staged revolutions, economic holocaust and a mounting list of casualties, now in the millions, is closer to that of August 1914 than many realize.

      That was a Rothschild war, pure and simple. The machinations of colonialism, central banks, debt-based currencies and key government officials, bought and sold much as they are today, brought us our first world conflict.

      The war today is, in actuality, a continuation of the world conquest begun then, moving from stage to stage, communist revolution, the obliteration of Germany, the new “soft colonialism” and an unending “low-intensity conflict,” the war on terror, theatrical, scripted and phony.

      Perhaps the world may be ready to learn the lessons of history that ignorance has brought to endless repetition.

      It seems a few, a brave few, a “band of brothers,” may face down the narrative of victimization mythology and corruption.

      What we see now, watch the controlled media, is desperation.

      This war began at 2:30AM on May 2, 2013 with the sinking of an Israeli manned German Dolphin submarine that was supporting commando infiltration off the Syrian coast. The sub was spotted, submerged to 150 meters and was hit by a sophisticated guided torpedo.

      Syrian helicopters remained over the site of the naval disaster until a Russian flotilla arrived, escorting a salvage ship to secure the nuclear-tipped Tomahawk cruise missiles onboard.

      In retaliation, Israel began an artillery bombardment of Syrian positions outside Damascus on May 4. During that bombardment, an Israeli submarine off the coast of Lebanon launched a nuclear cruise missile. High resolution video from fifteen miles away clearly identifies the massive flash, the telltale mushroom cloud and the lightning, leaving no doubt that this was a nuclear attack.

      The explosion was picked up by American Vela satellites and confirmed.

      Why the White House now stands with Russia, Syria and Iran

      Russian President Vladimir Putin then contacted American President Barak Obama. Putin confirmed that Russia would not allow any further nuclear attacks without responding in kind against Israel and that, under the circumstances, the United States would be advised that “Israel has made her bed, and, if she chooses, she will die in it.”

      The Obama administration agreed to stand aside. As partial recompense, America bought Russian helicopters for the armed forces of Afghanistan and agreed not to actively oppose installation of an S-300 air defense system in Syria, one that makes Israel’s air superiority over the region but a memory.

      The May 23 Obama “bomb”

      On May 23, President Obama spoke for 48 minutes, outlining American policies. The speech, one of epic importance, was misquoted, lied about and eventually censored from the press. Why? What did Obama say?

      – America’s rendition program is a war crime and that prisoners are being illegally kidnapped and “tortured.” Yes, President Obama called rendition “illegal “and waterboarding “torture.”

      – All drone attacks (outside Iraq and Afghanistan) were authorized by Congress and that further drone attacks require oversight. Obama admitted that many drone attacks were wrong and that there was inadequate accountability and that drone attack policies were wrong and irresponsible.

      – By presidential order, no armed drone could ever be flown over the United States.

    • epieye  June 10, 2013 at 8:53 am

      Yep, not worthy of the space.

  26. Ken Rechtstein  June 10, 2013 at 3:17 am

    It got ugly on Dec. 23rd 1913, and uglier on 9/11. The Patriot Act ratified the 9/11 assassinations on American soil, the FEMA-NIST phony report delivered the coffins and the creation of DHS was the green light to bury the cadaver AMERICA, victim of the Zion Talmudic Mafia Greed, helped by Traitor Politicians and a legion of Sayanim.

    Anything forthcoming will be either COVER UPS to hide the truth and make sure that the culprits stay free from prosecution, FALSE FLAGS and/or REPRESSION of the American People to push forward the criminal agenda and finish the take over of USA-EU by the Zion Talmudic Mafia, based in Tel Aviv.

    What, in my view, makes Douglas Hagmann’s story less than credible is:

    1) The way the meeting was sat up by the “DHS Insider” and ACCEPTED by the author of the article : +++You do not text messages if you want to pass info that can cost you your life to somebody and ask him to make it public on top of that+++ It could have been a trap. Nevertheless Doug Hagmann allegedly WENT to that meeting,

    2) Douglas Hagmann was involved in the phony war on terror. He made a living out of it, he didn’t, as far as I know, denounce it as a war artificially created to promote The Zio and Neocons’ Agenda,

    3) He focuses (his alleged source focuses) on the DHS, put the finger at the US Administration, blaming Obama-Axelrod and the DoJ, when we ALL know that a parallel Govt. is pulling the ropes out there and that Traitors-Prostitutes in Senate and Congress are the ones responsible for America being hijacked-enslaved and pushed over the cliff.

    Now, one might ask: “What would be the motives for D. Hagmann to make up such a story?”. Sincerely, I have no answer for that, I just do not believe it, because those who are really to blame for everything negative that has happened in the last century in the USA, and elsewhere, are NOT mentioned with one single word. The veiled attack targets ONLY Obama and his Administration, leaving out the real culprit, i.e. The ZionTalmudic Mafia and its Sayanim in Congress and Senate.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 7:34 am

      Military told not to read Obama scandal news

      President Obama has said the outrage over the federal government’s decision to monitor citizens’ phone activity is all “hype.”

      He might want to share his opinion with the Air Force, which is ordering members of the service not to look at news stories about it.

      WND has received an unclassified NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) that warns airmen not to look at news stories related to the data-mining scandal.

      The notice applies to users of the Air Force NIPRNET (Non-classified Internet Protocol Router Network), which is the only way that many troops stationed overseas and on bases in the U.S. are able to access the Internet.

      The last line of the executive summary states:

      “Users are not to use AF NIPRNET systems to access the Verizon phone records collection and other related news stories because the action could constitute a Classified Message Incident.”

      Cindy McGee, the mother of an airman stationed in the UAE, spoke with WND.

      “The fact that our government is attempting to censor our service members from the truth of what is happening here at home is truly frightening and disheartening,” said McGee.

      Her son received the same notice.

      McGee continued, “I am outraged that our government is attempting to censor the information from our military that every citizen in this country is potentially being targeted by our government in a massive overreach of their constitutional powers by unconstitutional surveillance of all Americans and storage of that data.”

      There have been a multitude of reports already on the latest exploding scandal of the Obama administration.

      Last Wednesday, The Guardian broke the news of the top-secret court order requiring Verizon to hand over all of its call data on an ongoing basis to the National Security Agency.

      On Friday, the Washington Post reported that the NSA and FBI are gathering data from the servers of nine U.S. Internet companies.

      Then reports came out that there are 50 companies from which the government is collecting data.

      During a press conference, the president dismissed what he called “hype” over the surveillance programs.

      But concern over this broad surveillance is causing legislators to look into what they can do to enable more oversight of these operations.

      The latest news detailing how the government keeps track of this massive amount of data and its origins was posted by The Guardian, for everyone in the world to read, except members of the Air Force.

    • epieye  June 10, 2013 at 9:02 am

      The source for the Guardian story is suspicious. You may want to read this thread.

      Look at http://swampland.time.com/2013/06/09/four-things-to-know-about-surveillance-leaker-edward-snowden/?iid=ent-main-mostpop2

      Claim 1: Snowden was previously a technical officer for the Central Intelligence Agency and worked at the National Security Agency (NSA) as an employee of Dell, a private contractor, before being hired by Booz Allen as an infrastructure analyst for the NSA in Hawaii.

      My response:
      This is the CIA’s requirements for technical operations officers, which Snowden claims to have been: (see https://www.cia.gov/careers/opportunities/science-technology/technical-operations-officer.html)
      Minimum requirements include a bachelor’s or master’s degree (PhD highly desired) in: various engineering disciplines, computer science, physics, mathematics/statistics, chemistry, biology, or material science with a GPA of 3.0 or better on a 4.0 scale; as well as initiative, creativity, integrity, technical excellence and strong interpersonal and communication skills. A self-starter attitude, the ability to work independently and in a group, strong computer and internet proficiency, domestic and overseas mobility, demonstrated initiative, and writing/briefing skills are also required.

      Experience in one or more of the following areas is essential:

      Programming (C, C++, Internet, Windows 3.X/95/NT applications development, interrupt processing/service routines, device drivers, RS-232 communication applications)
      Internet/Web technology
      Systems engineering
      Network security
      Network engineering
      Voice/data communications (satellite, RF, wireless and telecommunications networks)
      Electromagnetic fields, antennas and propagation
      Fiber optics and cable communications
      Digital design and circuits
      Analog design and circuits
      Signal processing
      DSP design and programming
      Video design and circuits
      Audio design and circuits

      Now remember that this guy is a high school dropout with a GED and a couple of uncompleted computer courses. The CIA has thousands of applications from people who exactly meet the needs of the Agency because the job pays over $60,000 a year. They don’t need to hire someone like Snowden to do their work because they can get what they want really easily.

      Claim 2: that he believed Obama was going to put an end to “some of the surveillance practices,” and “got hardened” after Obama continued the policies.

      My response:
      Okay, this shows intent. IIRC the guy claims to have gone into the Agency not realizing they spied on Americans, found out they did and decided to blow the whistle. Now it looks like Snowden hooked up with Booz Allen with very specific intent to steal at least this document.

      Claim 3: Snowden told The Guardian “I had full access to the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all around the world.”

      My response:
      NO ONE has that kind of access. The intelligence community uses a process called compartmentalization.

      Assume the CIA has an above-Top Secret program to monitor the marijuana farmers in Colombia, and it relies on covert agents. They name the program BUTTERMILK. (Special Access compartments have names totally unrelated to what they do so people can’t figure out what the project does just from the name, which is why they wouldn’t name the program SINSEMILLA or something else pot-related.) All the reports from this program would be classified TOP SECRET BUTTERMILK and only people read on to project BUTTERMILK would be able to get those reports. The number of people read on to this compartment would be kept to the absolute minimum – for reasons which at this point should be more than obvious.

      What trips Snowden up is that an infrastructure analyst for Booz Allen wouldn’t be on the need-to-know list for any of these weird compartments.

      He also claims to have been able to shut down this entire system in an afternoon if he’d have wanted to – which sounds very much like an idle boast.

      I wonder a few things here, namely who is this guy? I’m hearing all sorts of weird conflicting shit. He was a Special Forces candidate but he doesn’t have the educational background for it. He was a technical officer for the CIA but he DEFINITELY doesn’t have the educational background for that. I saw something that said he was a security guard at NSA; that’s possible but Fort Meade doesn’t have a real strong history of retraining security guards as analysts. This piece says he was an “infrastructure analyst” which to me indicates he was there to work on their computer systems, but Fort Meade’s computers are designed so you have access only to the things your job requires, and an IT guy doesn’t need to have the ability to open intel files. So was he an IT guy or an intel analyst?

      There is a particularly odious form of humanity called the Wannabe. The Wannabe dreams of having been a hero when he was in the service but he didn’t want to put in the pushups to get there, so he just tells people he was a SEAL or a Special Forces Commando or an Airborne Ranger, and people go all gushy over him until someone figures out he’s full of shit. Snowden seems to be a wannabe to me, from the way he’s talking.

      Now for the big one: if he really is a wannabe, who’s he working with that can gin up a fake record good enough for the security screeners to believe? Standards have eroded since Bush entered the scene, but they still crawl so far up your ass when you put in for a clearance as high as Snowden had that they can see how good the doctor who removed your tonsils was.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 9:10 am

      You have serious doubts about what he is reporting when we have massive indirect confirmations that that is indeed the case?

      Have you read–or even scanned–the dozens and dozens of articles I have linked here that strongly suggest that he is right?

      I am wondering a few things about you: Who is this guy? Why is he trying so hard to discredit this source? What’s going on?

      Are you implying that he has been set up to announce this massive surveillance program in order to shoot him down?

      But even President Obama has confirmed it and Diane Feinstein has defended it. How much sense would that make? None?

    • DaveE  June 10, 2013 at 10:13 am

      epieye makes some valid points, this doesn’t smell right. Lies are always coated in enough truth to make them believable and we’ve known for years that NSA has been collecting our phone records. Just because Snowden states things most people believe to be true does not mean he is who he says he is.

      I think there’s another agenda going on, here, the most obvious motive being to create outrage directed at Obama. Not that that requires a PhD or that he doesn’t deserve it. Really, all this latest “scandal” did was bring something intelligent people already knew into the TV sets of sheeple who take the New York Times seriously. Obama is the most obvious target.

    • epieye  June 10, 2013 at 4:36 pm

      Jim, I’ve listened to most all your podcasts, I’m not questioning the message … but I have to question Snowden’s qualifications. Snowden was uneducated, unaccomplished, and untested, yet somehow leaps from security guard at NSA to CIA IT specialist. How? I’ve been arguing for privacy over security since the Patriot Act, but something about the timing of this doesn’t pass my smell test. I’m just looking for an explanation.

    • epieye  June 10, 2013 at 9:48 am

      And then there’s this … Mr. SnowDem?

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 10, 2013 at 12:41 pm

      epieye, you’re not the only one questioning the Snowden story. My investment analyst buddy calls him a plant because he said nothing at all about the market rigging which incidentally, I noticed Tom Heneghan has flagged up:

      NSA is being assisted by an Israeli software company Narus.

      Narus is a specialist in computer generated algorithms that are used in this illegal espionage to use phone voice inflection to create a dragnet of phone monitoring.

      Narus uses these computer generated algorithms in concert with the U.S. NSA and crooked banks like the Bank of Israel to script and rig worldwide financial markets

      two master NSA computers, one in Langley, Virginia and the other in Haifa, Israel, are in possession of ALL U.S. citizens’ personal and financial banking information…….

      NSA, along with crooked worldwide banks, are using the aforementioned computer generated algorithms (tied to Project Echelon) to get a 4-5 second lead time on all worldwide financial transactions in stocks, commodities and foreign currencies.

      Last Friday the U.S. NSA, along with the U.S. Fed and their crooked banks, sold off the U.S. bond market in conjunction with massive illegal electronic front running of Japanese yen and precious metals futures aka writing naked call options with the assistance of a Japanese company called Japan Softbank Inc.

      Japan Softbank Inc. is tied to the U.S. banking giant JPMorgan Chase and is currently in negotiations to buy U.S. phone company Sprint.

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 11, 2013 at 10:25 am

      There you are, Jon Rappoport is onto the real dirt on the NSA which Snowden just so conveniently omits to mention:

      “For years ATS [substitute NSA] had been using its technological superiority to conduct massive insider trading. Since the early 1980s, the company had spied on anyone and everyone in the financial world. They listened in on phone calls, intercepted faxes, and evolved right along with the technology, hacking internal computer networks and e-mail accounts. They created mountains of ‘black dollars’ for themselves, which they washed through various programs they were running under secret contract, far from the prying eyes of financial regulators.

      “Those black dollars were invested into hard assets around the world, as well as in the stock market, through sham, offshore corporations. They also funneled the money into reams of promising R&D projects, which eventually would be turned around and sold to the Pentagon or the CIA.

      “In short, ATS had created its own license to print money and had assured itself a place beyond examination or reproach.”…..

      More at link. Pay no attention to all those juicy titbits in the gutter press about lonely pole dancing girl friends. There’s a very big story which is not being revealed to the public.

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 10, 2013 at 12:45 pm

      epieye, Jon Rappoport also raises some question over Snowden

      As my friend said – this guy is a plant.

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 10, 2013 at 12:48 pm

      My earlier comment may have evaporated in cyberspace but I was referring to Tom Heneghan’s latest article which confirmed what my friend claimed – that Snowden is a plant because he is silent about the financial market rigging by the NSA

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 1:11 pm

      If this was the post that “disappeared”, I simply had not noticed it wasn’t already up. There is a chorus who want to attack the messenger, when it is the message that matters. I am fairly taken aback. I cannot attest to his integrity, but he looks to me like “the real deal”.

    • homunculus  June 10, 2013 at 1:45 pm

      Jim, the context in which the “message” occurs also matters, because it impacts the message.

      The context here, with all the concurrent scandals, as well as the situation in Syria, suggests a
      possible strategy to demonize this administration. IRS targeting, NSA surveillance abuse – this stuff has been going on for years. The American public takes its cue from the media and other authorities as to when something is a “scandal” and an “outrage” or not.

      The media has made scandals of these events. They are scandalous, but that is not the point. The question is why have they done this (and why now).

      Examining the messenger can sometimes be helpful in a challenging overall context, in determining the purpose or strategy behind a message. I happen to think this guy feels himself to be a genuine whistleblower, but that does not mean he isn’t being used.

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 11, 2013 at 7:11 am

      Jim Fetzer, if this guy is the real deal, why did he run off to HK? Surely somewhere like France would be a better choice seeing as to how it has no extradition treaty with the US?

      Also, the MSM is all over this story like white on rice. This should be a strong indication that something else is happening which they don’t want us to know. Ben Fulford’s latest report says that the real story is the meeting between Obama and the Chinese leader

      “The recent cabal controlled corporate media frenzy of “disclosure” about things like NSA eavesdropping, politically targeted IRS tax investigations and the Bilderberg meeting are signs of full blown panic. All these disclosures seemed to be timed to distract public attention from last week’s pentagon and US agency supported love fest summit meeting between US President Barak Obama and Chinese leader Xi Jinping.”

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 11, 2013 at 7:15 am

      I posted this comment in the NSA spying article:

      I found this comment but can’t verify it as I have never read Catch-22:

      Can’t miss the symbolism in the Snowden reveal. “Edward” literally means “wealth guardian”; “Snowden” is a character from Catch-22 whose death marks a turning point of awareness about the futility of the bureaucratic system. And he goes to “The Guardian” to break the story.

      Can anyone verify this?

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 11, 2013 at 1:14 pm

      Jim, you asked “why are his revelations creating such a sensation?”
      It’s creating a sensation because the MSM wants to make a sensation out of it.
      It’s just another “look this way and don’t look at anything else which we are not telling you about”.
      As Clif High likes to say – look for what is absent.

    • mommyplayer  June 11, 2013 at 6:04 pm

      Snowden in Catch 22 is a victim. A wrenching scene where he is wearing the allegedly protective flack jacket and laying in the back of a plane while others tell him he is going to be OK, Only later he feels ever so cold, that cold of death. Quite a dismal finding for our hero that Snowdens guts are blown out and he is dying. Snowden is an innocent victim with a riveting death in Catch 22. Not a bad read, that death scene stayed with me 30 years.

    • Jim Fetzer  June 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm

      If what he is telling us is “things we already know”, then why are his revelations creating such a sensation?

      And what is there “he is telling us” that is unsupported or wrong? It all looks to me accurate and true.

  27. Chandler  June 10, 2013 at 1:15 am

    Obama was once a fairy decent fellow. I bet he wishes he never got involved with the people he did. How can anyone with any sanity order or permit the slow undoing of a great nation like this?

    I am sure they are underestimating us, and our abilities. They have children too, they are fathers and mothers. They are not without families. Many of them are planning to turn coat when they see what is being done, and the tide will turn.

    We are Americans, and not pushovers. Obama never served our military like Bush, and Clinton. Many of them will come to their senses and realize their errant ways, and the 180 will foil their plans.

    We have ties between us even we do not quite understand. We will truly be the last standing. and all the big families of Bilderberger, CFR, Trilateral, Skull & Bones, will scatter back to what once was their homes, and they will lose everything. Then they will see what they lost which is far more than many of us.

    We the People are held together by many bonds despite our differences. Not just big talk people, not just empty hopes. 300 million people many who are armed and ready? Against a miniscule ragtag group of hired hands? Russia? Israel? More will come to our aid than they could ever imagine.

    People like the American people. The commoners just like them outnumber the thugs who are being so misled by their propaganda. Many people from many nations will come to help us defend our nation.

    If they screw up their own hoax events, what makes any one believe they won’t screw up their own takeover attempt?

    You never cease to amaze me Mr. Fetzer.

    This Republic is filled with patriots They know that for it has been 23 years since we were told we had to accept this new world odor. They will be” successful” said Poppy Bush, with a smirk.

    I have already been in conversations with many Marines who say, when the time comes, the few, the proud will take action and turn the tables, and entire decades of planning this silliness is going to blow up in their own faces.

    • gerryhiles  June 10, 2013 at 6:02 am

      Are you being serious?

      Back in 1776 barely 10% actually fought for independence from London … and with nearly all of them duped by the elite “Founding Fathers” who opposed King George for collecting taxes they could not have.

      It all reminds me of the infamous Magna Carta, whereby the robber barons of England united against King John to grab their share of taxes.

      Neither the Constitution, nor Magna Carta were ever about the rights of ordinary folk.

      OK from about 1950-1990 us common folk imagined that we could have a fair deal, justice, etc., but it was all an illusion.

    • stephanaugust  June 10, 2013 at 11:58 am

      “Neither the Constitution, nor Magna Carta were ever about the rights of ordinary folk.”

      You are right because the God mentioned in the Constitution is not the Christian God. It is the God of the Freemasons.

  28. LightSaber  June 9, 2013 at 11:38 pm

    Prof. Fetzer – so far you’ve been doing an excellent job presenting and disputing the evidence re: JFK assassination, Paul Wellstone, 9/11, Sandy Hook.

    But in this case you’ve been clearly duped. This fake is a hit piece aimed at Obama – as all are that include absurd “Obama = a Marxist” claim. It’s been done by you know “who”.

    I saw this disinfo plant at other “alternative media” places before but to see it here at highly respectable VT website is quite disappointing.

    I consider much more IMHO probable scenario aimed at violent overthrow of Obama’s rule – a murder of prominent alternative media host, like Mr. Duff, Mr. Rense, or somebody of that importance. Done blatantly, “in your face”, carelessly, so that the conspiracy would be obvious. Such an aggressive, hardly covert act would enrage the followers of the alternative media in practically unstoppable way. Thus there is no need to worry about the cover up or being subtle – the goal is the civil war, meaning that anything that leads to it would not matter much once the war started.

    All other known provocation methods have been pretty much revealed and any attempt to use them can be quickly defused.

    So to all alt-media hosts – watch your back!

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 7:06 am

      The “Obama = Marxist” comment, which I suggested should be corrected to “Obama = Fascist”, may have been motivated by identifying Communism with Totalitarianism, which I have found to be a fairly common mistake from the point of view of those who want to draw more subtle distinctions. I would guess that you would be less inclined to dispute “Obama = Totalitarian”, where the situation we are discovering we are in is very painful to contemplate.

    • LightSaber  June 10, 2013 at 12:49 pm

      Dr. Fetzer, I will try to be vague for the cause (peace, prosperity, respect for human rights), but you are forcing me to lay it out in the open:

      1. Again, this tripe by Mr. Hagmann is a pathetic attempt (not sure if fully deliberate) to discredit Obama, make people run around scared of him, to portray the president as a threat to them – and he isn’t. I find it quite disappointing that you – being such a prominent example of reason, logic, cool analysis – fell for this deception. You seem to be very afraid of Obama – but you should not be. You should beafraid of the people who direct spreading of such disinformation like this hearsay.

      2. I was elated when Obama was elected in 2008. I hated him when seeing Libya being destroyed and the police state being implemented further and fuerther in the US. Now I realize that he’s one of very few people preventing nuclear WW3 being orchestrated by neocons, synagogue of satan, izraeli/jewish extremists, House of Windsor, House of Bush, wahabbis andthe rest of that satanic cabal.

      3. Please read Thierry Meyssan’s articles from a half year ago explaining the alliance between Obama and Putin aimed at taming the Beast from the Middle East, giving Obama much needed space to put the US house in order (“Russia has allies in the US system”). This plan has been being implemented slowly, but steadily facing mad, fierce opposition from “within”, UK, France, GCC, Israel. Recent military victories by Syrian government are largely THANKS TO Obama – if it were Romney wthere would be aready large regional war in the ME escalating fast towards WW3. The amount of the real aid for rebels from the US governtment is much less than advertised.

      4. Please read recent EXCELLENT Prof. Tarpley’s piece on how the Bilderberg group and the rest of the gang have been scheming to place Petreaus in Obama’s seat – one way or another. They have very good reason for that – their puppet is out of control. Probably out of the self-preservation instinct Obama’s new team of “realist” refuses to follow the orders and reaches to Russia for help. The situation very much resembles 1863: president Lincoln facing civil war, Great Britain and France ready to invade the US, Russian tsar coming to rescue. What we are observing right now is a “character assasination” of Obama – a necessary step before the real “hit”. And like some times before the attack started in the UK – there is a reasonfor that. There is no “IRS-gate” or other recent “gates” – at least nothing new that would justify that outrage from left to right against Obama – even from the NYT (the last place I would suspect of any good intentions).

      5. Erdogan has been rightly called by the Syrian government a “buther” of Syrian – but he agreed to comply with the US-Russia plan for the peace conference. As Lew Rockwell soberly pointed out all of a sudden fervently supporting departure of the disgraced Turkich leader and protests are war criminal Bernard Hnri-Levy, neocons, NYT – something’s fishy here. They want to replace him with Gul, who’s much worse. That’s just another attempt to violently overthrow current chessboard where the situation is moving toward the total deafeat of the cabal.

      6. Kokesh’s ridiculuous armed, lock and loaded “March on DC” was another attempt.

      7. You seem to be very scared the constitutional repubulic is coming to its end – well, that ship has sailed. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. “Obama the Dictator” seem to be not the bad thing – actually the only one that can save the US now. It seems that all other less radical methods would fail against the satanic cabal. Of course they predicted possibility that Obama will take completely over in alliance with Russia and China – that’ why ALex jones has been for years incessantly pre-programming his audience against such scenario: “beware of russian troops on US soil!”.

      8. The elite forced its puppet – Obama – to sign documents introducing the totalitarian regime in the US calculating that they are safe from Obama turning that sword against them – they were wrong, they made the president sign their sentences. NDAA and the PAtriot Act can and will be used against the real traitors – in the Congress and in the fascist corporations ruling the country. Apparently whatever “dirt” they have on him – a necessary condition to become a president is to allow the ruling elite have it on you – stopped working. Moreover the Congres – as Mr. Duff righlty pointed out – is fully complicit in the outrageous acts of murder, torture and other crimes against humanity perpatred throughout the world by the US.

      9. The “satanic elite” is cornered, desperate, running out of time and ideas on how to overthrow their former puppet that is out of control. That means that they can be really dangerous, mad, crazy. One of not yet applied methods of incting violence would be a murder of an honest, highly respected, widely liked alternative media host without attempts to cover it up – to provoke immediate, emotional, violent response. Other possibilities are of course nuclear blackmail, nuclear attack, biological attack and so forth. Sandy Hook, Aurora, Boston are the failed attempts so far.

      10. Expect more terrorist plots and smearing campaing against Obama. Unfortunatley I see otherwise legitimate and productive media host like Mike Rivero falling for that trapped and being a “useful idiot” in the anti-Obama campaign. Eeriliy the scenario in the US now had been used over and over by the ruling oligarchy elsewhere “The main mechanism of the « color revolutions » consists in focusing popular anger on the desired target. This is an aspect of the psychology of the masses which destroys everything in its path and against which no reasonable argument can be opposed. The scapegoat is accused of all the evils plaguing the country for at least one generation. The more he resists, the angrier the mob gets. After he gives in or slips away, the normal division between his opponents and his supporters reappears.” http://www.voltairenet.org/article160764.html

      I hope this helps!

    • Jim Fetzer  June 10, 2013 at 1:04 pm

      Where do you come up with this rubbish? What makes you think I am supposed to be “scared”?

      I am doing my best to expose corruption in government at the highest levels in relation to

      JFK, 9/11, the death of Sen. Paul Wellstone, Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, and much more.

      So you are offering an interpretation about me that has no basis in fact: it’s a fabrication.

      That leads me to infer that what you are saying about a courageous whistleblower is also false.

      It is ironic that you cite Webster Tarpley, who is in a state of denial about Israel and 9/11.

      If that’s the best you can do, I have difficulty taking you seriously. And Obama himself says,

      Obama: “If You Can’t Trust Us, We’re Going To Have Problems” (during just the last day or two):


      You appear to be a person of insufferable arrogance who claims to be the only one who actually

      understands what’s going on. But the evidence contradicts that stance: you don’t understand me;

      you don’t understand Webster Tarpley; and you OBVIOUSLY do not understand Barack Hussein Obama.

      I would be relieved to believe that Obama is keeping us from nuclear war in the Middle East. But

      your suggestion that the Patriot Act and NDAA will be used against THE REAL PERPS is ridiculous.

    • DaveE  June 10, 2013 at 2:08 pm

      I tend to agree that the IZCS is setting up Obama, but this could mean several things:

      1.) They just hate Obama and want him gone, your thesis.

      2.) They want to create a faction of the US public that despises Obama even more than they already do, in order to create a mass rebellion, civil war, chaos, anarchy….. one of the main tactics of the IZCS.

      3.) They know that Obama is still “their guy” and want to create the illusion of him being “persecuted”, which will rally his supporters to support him even more.

      I’m sure there are more. All I know is, things are never as they seem when dealing with our zionist masters.

  29. thorshammer1999  June 9, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Now I’m finished laughing at “weenies” being used, I’ll just say
    “let them F%#@ing try”. I’d rather it happen sooner than later. I’d say they will underestimate their opposition.

  30. PallMall  June 9, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    The link in this paragraph is not working:

    “After a review of 680 “fusion center” reports from 2009-2010, they found NO INDICATIONS OF ANY DOMESTIC TERRORIST THREAT, as I have reported here at Veterans Today. NONE! ZILCH! NADA! NOT ONE!”

  31. shachalnur  June 9, 2013 at 10:07 pm

    “Doug Hagmann tells seminar three major crisis events are imminent”

    9 June 2013,Canada Free Press

  32. Yukon Jack  June 9, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    Douglas Hagmann is to be commended for alerting us, well to the obvious. I have a question, why doesn’t he ever use the word Zionist to describe the enemy? I’ve listened to his interviews with Steve Quayle and they remind me of Alex Jones, they have this aversion to pointing out the obvious connections of the Israelis/Zionist Jews to the criminality in DC.

    Why is it Christians have this incredible difficulty saying the obvious?

    • shachalnur  June 9, 2013 at 7:45 pm

      Because the “DHS source” is a message from Israel.

      Israel is trying to take Obama down.

    • DaveE  June 10, 2013 at 9:50 am

      Because they can’t admit they were/are dead wrong and have been supporting Satan’s kids all these years.

  33. homunculus  June 9, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    The cloak and dagger stuff doesn’t work anymore. This DHS source has an agency agenda. If “they”
    were worried about Doug Hagmann, they’d be tracking him in D.C., beyond doubt, along with his source, who in previous assignations with Mr. Hagmann was known by the ridiculous nom de plume, “Rosebud.” That’s not to say what Mr. Rosebud says isn’t largely true. It is pretty obviously true enough. However, as the Poison song goes, “every rose(bud) has its thorn.”

    And there is a political agenda pretty clearly in play here – demonization of Obama – “this administration,” and parsing of the problem along political lines – as if it is really those with a “conservative bent” who need to be worried. As if Obama is largely responsible for the police state, and as if the police state has all that much to do with left-right politics in this country, or Obama himself. The police state is an attack on all of us. Changing administrations by itself won’t do much, if anything.

    And truth be told, Obama isn’t really responsible for it. That is not to say he has been a great leader, far from it. He’s gone along with the plan far too often, and been used as a tool by the nefarious forces that first got him elected. And who knows, perhaps he actually believes the NDAA 2013 bill, which he signed, and the Patriot Act, which he reauthorized, are good for this country.

    But now Obama seems to have pissed off some of the wicked ones, and I take this tentatively as a somewhat favorable sign, though truthfully I am not optimistic that even a most competent leader with the best intentions could really change things all that much. The President in the past has needed the backing of the establishment to truly function effectively. Perhaps, however, with all the in-fighting currently going on, this is changing a bit in that the President has aligned himself with a dissenting faction from a formerly more cohesive deep state, and thus is acting in concert with that interest. Perhaps this faction is our best chance, currently, to change things for the better – which in itself, perhaps, is not the best of news.

    • shachalnur  June 9, 2013 at 7:41 pm

      “Obama seems to have pissed off some of the wicked ones”.

      Ha’aretz yesterday “The outcry over PRISM,and the question over an Israeli connection”.

      “The (US)government is nefariously attempting to invade the privacy of its citizens,subjugate them and turn them over to the UN’s world governement”.

      Could it be Obama has pissed off the Isaeli’s?

    • burntwood  June 9, 2013 at 7:43 pm

      Yes. Here’sa great aricle: Britain, France prodding Obama into attacking Syria


    • epieye  June 10, 2013 at 7:14 pm

      Interesting, and there’s this: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/06/nsa-leaker-edward-snowden-community-college-computers

      Apparently, Mr. Snowden took no computer security classes, even though, the community college offered an NSA sponsored curriculum.

    • burntwood  June 9, 2013 at 7:42 pm

      Great post. yeah the article is very pointed. Looks like the french and brits who did the guardian piece on obama spying (because he didn’t attack syria) are also discrediting him in the eyes of truthers using half truths, PS the means of contacting someone which he couldn’t disclose … even though likely a fictional event ,.. could have been using microwaves. They can give people information in a dream state and then play music in their head to wake them (remembering the dream). Or simply use voice to skull technology and tell him. You got to mix in truth with lies to sell it. But if it was a real piece wouldn’t the DHS guy have mentioned they are recording all calls, gangstalking, suiciding and microwaving dissidents etc.

  34. mommyplayer  June 9, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    So the subtext or take home message here that I should be more afraid of speaking out? We already know internet freedom of speech is threatened. I dont understand why a 3 AM meeting occured to emphasize how easily betrayal is defined. In case I missed something, can someone translate the article for me?……

    • Jim Fetzer  June 9, 2013 at 6:15 pm

      Well, since email, phone and every other mode of communication apart from DIRECT, PERSONAL CONTACT is under surveillance, possibly the contact felt the need to have DIRECT, PERSONAL CONTACT. I am sorry to say it, mommyplayer, but this is really not your most intelligent comment.

    • mommyplayer  June 9, 2013 at 6:54 pm

      Well I regret that post. It is scarey to think that speaking out could actually affect me and so I feel a bit paranoid. And I do want the word to get out. The urgency is the main message of the article.

    • burntwood  June 9, 2013 at 7:49 pm

      if you are effective enough at propagandizing truth you will get gangstalked. The aim is to make you paranoid and so you get committed/fired/commit suicide etc. Traits to look out for:

      missing but worthless items in your home

      dreams where you awake hearing music

      lasers shone through your window

      burning sensations

      being followed

      people who seem ‘off’ (eg. they appear to have a mental illness) will get jobs in shops you frequent.

      definately read up on it. But at the same time, by not speaking out, are you damning everyone to a worse fate? tough call…

  35. Ann  June 9, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    Oh, well. At least now we know for sure that the weenies don’t have the smarts to cash out and retire, and that they’d rather duke it out. Which they really can’t do because weenies can’t fight, so they have to get other dupes to do it for them. So the question is, who will the weenies use, and if they are Americans are they sure of their loyalty? Do they really think we are as duped as all the other targets since the English Revolution? And assuming the weenies get away with it, how long can they hold on to power?

    Even the Romans understood the difference between taking and holding ground, but then they weren’t weenies. They understood governance, and the weenies don’t. That’s how they built and kept a mighty Empire for so long. Weenies will turn tail and run at the first sign of power loss and danger, and leave the dupes behind.

    Hey dupes–are you reading this? Don’t think you’ll get paid no matter what the weenies say. They just need your muscle but they’ll get rid of you too because they’re paranoid, and the fact that you can fight will always leave them uneasy, so you’re all goners when the job is done, don’t kid yourselves. Do the right thing. Read the Constitution. Look to our heroes, Rowe, Yeakey, Sabow, Tillman, and so many others, and ask yourselves what they would do. They defied the weenies, who then unleashed the Beast upon them, but they will be forever men of honor, their names hallowed in our history. Our country and its defenders are better than anything the weenies could imagine.

    • jamesjohnson  June 9, 2013 at 6:08 pm

      good one , ann, i wish VT had an up vote button.

    • shachalnur  June 9, 2013 at 8:10 pm

      up vote that too

    • Serious Dad  June 10, 2013 at 9:36 am

      I am sorry to contradict you, but Carl Rowe is no hero.

      In fact, he’s part of the cabal – only from the other side of the aisle.

    • Ann  June 10, 2013 at 10:33 am

      I was referring to Col. Nick Rowe. Read his book, “Five Years to Freedom” then tell me he’s not a hero. That book should be required reading in every American high school, and mandatory for West Point admission. Furthermore, he was a good friend of Col. Edward Cutolo, another great hero. Please read “The Cutolo Affidavit” where both of them got too close to the Beast, which then sent its flying monkeys after them.

    • Angus Alexander MacLeod  June 10, 2013 at 7:36 pm

      Ann, I have read many of your posts here and definitely salute your stance and scholarship. I rarely comment here anymore, not out of fear by any stretch, but feel too often I am either repeating myself or having nothing new of substance to offer. However, I deeply appreciate your references above to these great American patriots, having done considerable work on the Tillman “hit” and I had the great honor of first making the Cutolo Affidavit (which, btw, was never properly notarized) widely public via LTC(ret.) Bo Gritz more than 20 years ago. Like you, I have immense respect for all four Army Cols. referenced therein, particularly for Col. Rowe, who tried so damn hard to get that story in front of the US public, as I did, also, for some years.
      I thought you might like to know that while returning from a “fact-finding” trip to Baghdad in ’92 after the first Gulf War, I spent time in London and environs digging deeper into Col. Cutolo’s demise in a “car accident.” Long story, but the final upshot, given directly to me by a fairly well-known former Agency “wetworks” specialist and “garbage collector” after I returned to Florida, was that Cutolo was “suicided” by decapitation by a rope tied round his neck before his vehicle was forcibly accelerated. Can’t say that I am certain this was the case, but as a former law-enforcement officer and investigator, all the evidence I was able to amass (similarly with Tillman’s execution) certainly points in that direction, and the source was “dead-on” in too many other instances over the years, as well… With even the head of the FBI openly declaring US military veterans the “#1 Terrorist Threat” facing America, the deaths of all four of those men certainly remains as graphic proof of the lengths these slime will go to to cover up their ongoing mayhem against us all. Keep the faith, Sister…

    • Ann  June 12, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      Oops! My response ended up at the top of the page.

    • JS  June 10, 2013 at 10:47 am

      Serious Dad, that is Karl Rowe.

    • shachalnur  June 10, 2013 at 6:36 pm

      Karl Rove

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