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The Ugly Truth about Michael Collins Piper, Cass Sunstein and Sandy Hook

By Jim Fetzer

 
mcp11Given the extraordinary attention that has been devoted to dissecting the sensational events in Tucson, Aurora, Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing, I would have thought that those who deny that they were “false flag” or staged events orchestrated by elements within the federal, state and local governments are either unfamiliar with the evidence or cognitively impaired.

Imagine my astonishment to discover a new book, False Flags: Template for Terror (2013)–featuring images of Lee Harvey Oswald, Osama bin Laden, Timothy McVeigh, Adam Lanza and Dzhokhar Tsamaev on its cover–in which Michael Collins Piper argues instead that those who believe Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing were false flag events are not simply wrong about the facts of the matter but are implementing the program of “cognitive infiltration” advanced by Cass Sunstein as tools of the government.

I have done research of my own on most of these subjects, including Cass Sunstein in “Birds of a Feather: Subverting the Constitution at Harvard Law“, which was first published and available at OpEdNews until its editor, Rob Kall, made it unavailable, apparently because I was submitting articles about 9/11 implicating Israel in the plot.  Since no lesser an inside authority than Steve Pieczenik has confirmed that Sandy Hook was a false flag event, I was floored by Piper’s stance.


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I suppose I should not have been surprised, therefore, to discover that he also targets Alex Jones, who interviewed Pieczenik, as another Sunstein stooge.  Piper claims that those of us who are implementing Sunstein’s plan (by infiltrating JFK, 9/11 and other “truther” groups in order to sow dissension and controversy and thereby disrupt and discredit them) focus excessively on the question of HOW these events were done (such as the number of shooters that were fired in Dealey Plaza and where JFK was hit) rather than WHO was responsible and WHY.  As his book promo states,

All sorts of misleading “theories” and phony “research” muddied the waters, redirecting attention away from WHO was responsible and into focusing instead into endless competing and distracting arguments about HOW the assassination was carried out. As a consequence, truth seekers got bogged down in complicated discussions about how many shots were fired, where those shots hit JFK and how many assassins were involved. The same type of thing happened after the Oklahoma City bombing and then with 9-11 and it even took place during the past year in the wake of the tragedies at Sandy Hook and Boston. There has been a plethora of theories relating largely to inconsequential details about how these conspiracies were orchestrated and the consequence has been that much of the independent research has become bogged down in forensic and scientific debate (much of it actually ill-founded). The result is that even many Americans who suspect there’s something wrong with the U.S. government’s “official” versions of “what happened” in these cases begin to reject the idea that real conspiracies were behind these events. The truth seekers are dismissed as “nuts.”

But it appeared to me that no one can sort out what really happened WITHOUT nailing down “the details”, which are therefore ANYTHING BUT “inconsequential”. I discussed this odd and unexpected stance by Piper with John Friend, who maintains a blog about these questions and who–along with so many others–agrees with me that Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing are OBVIOUS “false flags”. So he suggested that Piper and I might have a debate about Sandy Hook, which he would host during his own radio show. He wrote to Piper and we set up the debate to occur Wednesday, 8 January 2014, from 11 AM-1 PM/ET.

The First “Debate”

 
Imagine our astonishment when we received an early AM email from Michael Collins Piper tells us that he was experiencing physical problems with his foot and leg and could not participate in the scheduled debate. So John notified his readers that Piper had withdrawn in this statement:

The Realist Report, 8 January 2014

He and I proceeded to have an extended, two-hour discussion about Sandy Hook, covering most of the issues,

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which, to judge from comments about our conversation posted on his blog–apart from those distracted by the question of how the video footage of Flight 175 hitting the South Tower were faked–implied that we had rather thoroughly dismantled the Piper position and that there was really not a lot left to discuss. Piper, however, was enraged by John Friend’s use of the word, “backed out”, which offended his sense of fair play and justice.  Of course, he HAD withdrawn (or “backed out”) ostensibly on the basis of medical problems, which EXPLAINED why he had withdrawn but did not alter the fact of the matter.  This led to a series of extraordinary emails from Piper in which he viciously and irrationally attacked both John Friend and me, which, in my opinion, display a remarkable loss of mental balance and great emotional instability.  These emails, which were originally sent to the editors of American Free Press and of the web site, “The Ugly Truth”, which apparently is managed by Mark Glenn, Keith Johnson and Piper, are so completely disgusting that, were he to engage us in a lawsuit, as he has threatened, his attorney would move to exclude them on the ground that they are inflammatory and would bias a jury against him:

The email exchange

As you can see from this graphic, there were quite a few, more than 30 in the first set and then another 40 or more in subsequent exchanges, in the three categories (or subject lines) provided here.  The upshot, however, was that Piper insisted he still wanted to debate me over Sandy Hook, so we rescheduled the debate to be hosted by the web editor for American Free Press, David Gahary, this time on Thursday, 16 January 2014, now from 3-5 PM/ET.

The Second “Debate”

 
Imagine my surprise when “The Ugly Truth” published a story with the following headline on Tuesday, 14 January 2014, two days before the rescheduled debate:

Michael Collins Piper hospitalized following what cardiologists have described as ‘massive’ heart attack

 

It is with great worry and personal distress that I bring to the notice of the readers of TUT the news that our dear friend Mike Piper has been hospitalized following what cardiologists have said was a ‘massive’ heart attack.

 

It occurred last week in the middle of the night and lasted for several days afterwards. At this point he is undergoing a battery of tests to determine the extent of the damage done to his heart. I spoke with him just prior to his being taken to the emergency room yesterday and have just finished speaking to him now. He is obviously very worn out but as of this moment is in the best place he can possibly be.

Needless to say, I was not surprised. This announcement was accompanied by a blast at John Friend and me for having observed that Piper had backed out of the earlier debate, which of course was a fact. Piper had already told others that the doctors had no idea what was wrong and were going to run more tests. So I took a day to absorb the situation and then, on Wednesday, 15 January 2014, posted the following comment: My fist comment on TUTIt was predictable that I would be savaged by his supporters, but I did not expect to read comments from those more knowledgeable about cardiac issues to add their opinions to the mix,

Comment from nursing expert

which Mark Glenn dismissed with the back of his hand, remarking, “I tend to think that a cardiologist working at one of the nation’s top hospitals is slightly more qualified to make a medical diagnosis on this matter than you are.” But thenursechronicles called his bluff:

Second nurse expert comment

We have a nice encapsulation of the ethics and integrity of Mark Glenn in running “The Ugly Truth”. When I had initially express skepticism that Michael Collins Piper had suffered “a massive heart attack”, Mark Glenn had responded, “Everything that has been stated is fact as opposed to the fantasy-based stew which you spew ad nauseum. ‘Apparent mental instability’? ‘Under stress’ because of an upcoming debate? ‘Stress-induced angina’?” But his miraculous recovery in just two days offers convincing evidence that I and thenursechronicles had it right. For a study in duplicity and the credulity of their followers, just read this blog with care.

The Third “Debate”

 
Because of the stress Michael Collins Piper was under and Mark Glenn’s refusal to engage in a debate in his stead, it fell to their “Number 3″, Keith Johnson, who agreed to debate me on Thursday, 23 January 2014, from 8-10 PM/CT, with David Gahary as the host. It was announced on the American Free Press web site as “Date with a Debate: Jim Fetzer vs. Keith Johnson”, on 21 January 2014, and became the most read article there. For the first time, I actually had an opponent to debate, where our exchange–the debate itself–is archived here.

The response was rather telling. Even on a relatively neutral web site where Michael Collins Piper, Mark Glenn and Keith Johnson had considerable pre-debate support, their fans were dismayed:

One comment on debate

Another baker’s dozen or more comments about the debate can be found at the AFP web site, “Date with a Debate: Fetzer vs. Johnson”, which features a post by Wolgang Halbig, the expert on school security, whom I cited toward the end of the debate and whom I also mention again below. It seems to me that he is the single best-qualified expert in a position to address these Sandy Hook questions, where I am especially glad that he surfaced in time for me to cite his research, which is on-going. James Tracy has now published a blog about him, “Retired Cop and Educator Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook Investigation”, which includes an hour-long interview with me for “The Real Deal”.

Assessing the Outcome

 
Reflecting on our exchange, I think there are several reasons — apart from his obvious lack of preparation — that Keith Johnson did not fare well. One is that he never responded to the points I made right off the bat about the suppression of information about the deaths of the alleged victims. I had expected him to raise the issue of the Social Security Death Index (SSDI), which lists their names, but where it would have been the most obvious records for the government to have fixed in a case like this, where local, state and federal elements appear to be involved. I was therefore going to explain why that would be most easily fabricated evidence, which for that reason should be given the least weight.

He also never made one of the points I had anticipated by attempting to debunk the portable sign, “EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN”, and the name tags on lanyards. I had gone to the trouble of contacting a former Gold Shield NYC Detective about this, where I asked him if that was standard practice or if he had ever heard of it being done a crime scene, which he answered with a simple, “No.” He is a very stand-up guy, who actually arrested one of the assassins of JFK, Frank Sturgis, when he came to New York to kill Marita Lorenz to make sure she did not testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations when it reinvestigated the case in 1977-78. She did testify and gave it boxes of supporting evidence, which it simply ignored.

Some of the most powerful evidence I adduced concerned the strange behavior of the alleged parents and relatives of the victims, including Gene Rosen, who played a key role in confirming having heard shots from the school and comforting six of the children who survived by providing them orange juice and allowed them to play with stuffed animals. Because I found his testimony incredible, I contacted the former head of the FBI’s Rapid Response Psychiatric Unit, who confirmed what I had suspected in spades. While his analysis of the problems with Rosen’s testimony would have come to Keith as news, since it was not included in “Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an Elaborate Hoax”, he should have been prepared to deal with the other points I made, most of which were taken directly from that article.

In addition, I introduced new evidence from a former Florida State Trooper and school principal, Wolfgang Halbig, who is a nationally-recognized expert on school safety and related issues. He was so troubled by the “official account” that he has made many inquiries about an FBI investigative report on Sandy Hook, which has been sent to President Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder and former Director of the FBI, Robert Mueller. He has been rebuffed and told it is “classified”, but why in the world should that be the case? It ought to have been included with the “final report” from Connecticut, not withheld from the public. Because of Wolf’s inquiries about Sandy Hook, two Lake County, FL, homicide investigators showed up at his home and, on behalf of the Connecticut State Police, threatened him with prosecution should he continue to ask questions about Sandy Hook. “Why would they classify an FBI report about a school shooting”, he asks, “if it was on the up-and-up?”, which I regard as a very good question. None of this makes any sense unless we are dealing with the on-going cover-up of an elaborate hoax.

The Poll Results

 
I am not suggesting that my performance was flawless. During the final segment of my presentation, I cited the case of Alicia Hannan, who is a special technician for the FBI and whose husband and daughter were with her. I was sent a link about her by Keith Johnson himself, which I found very plausible. He claims to have located “Alicia”, who is actually a resident of Sandy Hook. I find that very peculiar but, if he is right, then he “snookered” me. I am more impressed by Sofia Smallstorm’s observation that, if Emilie Parker was on Obama’s knee, then she cannot be the older child who sang at the Super Bowl, which means one of those identifications must be in error. And James Tracy thought that I “lost points” by a direct exchange with Keith toward the very end, to which I plead, “Guilty!”.

But those lapses, such as they may be, do not compensate for the quality and the quantity of the evidence I advanced, where most of his responses committed one or another of the three fallacies I expected he would employ and defined at the very beginning, the straw man, by exaggerating my position to make it easier to attack; special pleading, by citing on the evidence favorable to your side and ignoring the rest; and the ad hominem, which he employed again and again in an attempt to discredit the arguments made by Mike Power, for example, where he simply ignored my own confirmation as an expert who supervised recruit training and marksmanship as a commissioned officer in the US Marine Corps.

Nevertheless, the poll results were strongly in favor of Keith Johnson. While they were initially running 3-1 in my favor over the first 120+ votes cast, the trend would later change, where a comparison of these two snap-shots is rather instructive:

The last report I have about their current totals is that Keith Johnson has around 1200 votes and I only 700, which is quite remarkable. American Free Press has determined that the poll was flawed because, simply by refreshing the page, you could vote again and again. I encourage everyone to listen to the debate and draw their own conclusions about this, since my expectation would have been — given the comparison between the earlier and later results of the second poll (about AFP doing more on Sandy Hook) — I would have expected the first poll results to have been approximately proportionally the same.

NOTE: The latest (corrected) poll results have now been published and they appear to be accurate as follows:

Final Jim Fetzer vs. Keith Johnson poll
 

Interpreting the Outcome

 
The chat room was very active during the debate, but so was Mark Glenn, who made repeated efforts to bias chat room participants negatively toward me and in favor of Keith Johnson. Here is a sample from the final stages of the debate only for the purpose of illustrating the role he took in attempting to influence opinions:

[21:53:58] DaveGoldsmith : Mark is fizzling out and running out of ammo
[21:54:04] mark glenn : HAHAHAHAHA
[21:54:08] mark glenn : another funny one
[21:54:13] Guest5806 has logged out.
[21:54:14] Guest10343 has logged out.
[21:54:18] AnnaSmith0 : It was I suppose the best they could do but it did not demonstrate an effective investigation
[21:54:22] mark glenn : what whit
[21:54:32] mark glenn : ok
[21:54:36] satanicjewsclues911 : Fetzer kicked Da-Nuts..
[21:54:48] mark glenn : then if it is not accurate, then AHY are you citing it?
[21:54:51] mark glenn : WHY
[21:54:51] satanicjewsclues911 : What a Wimp…
[21:54:53] Guest10422 has logged in.
[21:54:57] TuLe0 : fetzner is a joke
[21:55:00] AnnaSmith0 : No suspect statements..the dismissal of potentially relevant evidence
[21:55:06] mark glenn : ok
[21:55:10] mark glenn : again
[21:55:23] mark glenn : WHY are you citing it
[21:55:29] AnnaSmith0 : It’s all they gave
[21:55:34] Fake War : when fetzer is debunked by accurate Boston Bombing and Sandy Hook investigations/documentaries – he will be shown up as the puffed out fool he is
[21:55:37] mark glenn : to ? what Keith is saying?
[21:55:46] mark glenn : no FW
[21:55:47] AnnaSmith0 : You can’t make it up
[21:55:48] Guest10437 has logged in.
[21:55:50] mark glenn : he won’t
[21:56:00] Guest8442 has logged out.
[21:56:09] Fake War : he ought to be
[21:56:10] mark glenn : arguing with people like Fetzer is like debating someone who beieves the moon is made out of swiss cheese
[21:56:15] Guest10443 has logged in.
[21:56:15] Guest10437 has logged out.
[21:56:17] mark glenn : how do you reason with someone like this?
[21:56:23] Fake War : someone should shut him up
[21:56:24] DaveGoldsmith : What is Keith contributing?
[21:56:24] Guest10331 has logged out.
[21:56:27] TuLe0 : FW… I think all this has been debunked… 911, boston, sandy,
[21:56:29] mark glenn : listen
[21:56:34] DaveGoldsmith : What garbage
[21:56:44] satanicjewsclues911 : What a Ignoranus.
[21:56:47] mark glenn : Keith has provided hard evidence
[21:57:11] mark glenn : if your brains worked you would be following up on these items
[21:57:12] DaveGoldsmith : You mean he is a blowhard!
[21:57:14] mark glenn : but you are not
[21:57:18] mark glenn : for one of 2 reasons
[21:57:20] satanicjewsclues911 : Keith sound like he is going to cry.
[21:57:31] mark glenn : either you are under the spell
[21:57:35] mark glenn : or you are shills
[21:57:39] Guest6528 has logged out.
[21:57:41] DaveGoldsmith : Give Keith a suppressant. He has lost it
[21:57:48] mark glenn : No he has not
[21:57:51] mark glenn : Keith was a cop
[21:57:53] satanicjewsclues911 : Shills? What Dat?
[21:58:01] mark glenn : he was an investigator
[21:58:05] mark glenn : for almost 20 yeaaars
[21:58:07] mark glenn : years
[21:58:12] mark glenn : he did this for a living
[21:58:18] satanicjewsclues911 : Big Deal, more reason not to Trust him
[21:58:36] mark glenn : oh, so we trust Fetzer instead?
[21:58:39] mark glenn : yeah, makes sense
[21:58:40] DaveGoldsmith : He wants more “stuff”. Man, Keith’s intellect does not reach Dr. Fetzer’s ankle.
[21:58:42] Guest10240 has logged out.
[21:58:42] mark glenn : congrats
[21:58:43] Guest10526 has logged in.
[21:58:48] mark glenn : you get the idiot of the night award
[21:58:52] mark glenn : after Fetzer of course
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[21:59:32] DaveGoldsmith : Dr. Fetzer won hands down
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Let me add that I bore no ill-will toward any of “The Ugly Truth” crowd before I discovered their support for the “official accounts” of Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing. In fact, I interviewed both Mark Glenn and Michael Collins Piper on “The Real Deal” in the past,

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30, 2010

Mark Glenn
USS Liberty

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MONDAY, OCTOBER 4, 2010

Mark Glenn / Denis Rancourt
What’s up with Obama’s Staff? / The 9/11 Movement

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WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 1, 2012

Michael Collins Piper / Joshua Blakeney & Mimi the Syrian Girl
THE NEW BABYLON / The Syrian Situation

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FRIDAY, AUGUST 10, 2012

Michael Collins Piper
FINAL JUDGMENT: Israel’s role in JFK’s assassination

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Perhaps even more strikingly, during the Santa Barbara 50th Observance event, “JFK: The Assassination of American”, during my keynote address and following, I cited Michael Collins Piper’s work on possible Israeli involvement in taking him out, especially because JFK was butting heads with David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel and its principal founder, over Israel’s desire to develop nuclear weapons. I explained that, while Israel appeared to be among the SPONSORS of the event–along with the CIA, the Joint Chief, the anti-Casto Cubans, the Mafia, the Eastern Establishment (in relation to the FED) and the Texas oil men–I could only identify one of at least six shooters who could be tied back to the Meyer Lanksy crime syndicate, which Piper posits as the key–but not exclusive–connection to Israel. The FACILITATORS were LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover, where I have discussed THE MECHANICS–the shooters and their supervisors and coordinators–elsewhere.

So I have not only shown no animosity toward Michael Collins Piper or Mark Glenn in the past, I have actually supported them by featuring them on my show. I am now inclined to agree with him about the Cass Sunstein strategy of infiltrating “truther” groups in order to sow dissension and embarrass the movement in ways that contribute to the public perception of us as “crack pots” and as “mentally unstable”. Piper is pushing for another round with John Friend and me, which may take place as early as Monday, 27 January 2014. On the basis my experience with “The Ugly Truth” thus far, however, I am also convinced that he has pointed us in the wrong direction, where his own views on Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing are so woefully inconsistent with the available evidence that they cannot be qualified as rational beliefs. And this, I believe, is the reason why, when we turn to their public persona, we find so much that is ugly and so little that is true.

Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth.

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46 Comments for “The Ugly Truth about Michael Collins Piper, Cass Sunstein and Sandy Hook”

  1. Jim – you might be right that The Ugly Truth (TUT) is a MC Piper cult but I am inclined to believe it is even worse than that. Having listened to Piper and his lead head-kicker Mark Glenn ramp up his hysterical and vicious attacks on Sandy Hook dissenters you would have to conclude that they are taking orders. And it hasn’t just been the viciousness but their willingness to use Sandy Hook to 1) advocate for gun control 2) embrace the msm (Newsweek) on SH, 3) declare that pesky ‘details’of such events are unimportant. Taken together these positions makes TUT look like something more than just a cult. A lot of people will find this hard to swallow but I can hear Dianne Feinstein saying that: “look, even a virulently anti-Israel group like The Ugly Truth thinks that we need to get rid of guns, so who other than completely insane and irresponsible people would be against gun control.” Remember the freshman Jewish student who was found to be responsible for defacing her own door with swastikas in order to get sympathy? I’m starting to think that TUT is just an elaborate version of those swastikas. Certainly, nothing from Piper, Glenn et al this week has suggested that they have the thinking or writing skills to be the authors of the serious works that have their names on them.

  2. I listened to the debate yesterday and today among Michael Piper, Jim Fetzer and John Friend, and must say I was disappointed for several reasons. There was too much debate about the name-calling that was done on prior occasions and too little talk about those little details that cause people to believe or not believe that there was a massacre of 20 little children and 5 or 6 adults at Sandy Hook. I thought that John Friend was good and said some important things, but more could have been done in setting forth all the reasons and details why there is no evidence that a massacre happened that day. When I say evidence, I mean forensic evidence. All we have to show that a massacre happened at Sandy Hook is that the media and the state authorities in charge told us it happened, but we have no evidence that it happened. We have witnessed nothing more than a large gathering of all sorts of people at a firehouse, with “check-in” neon signs, and with many people with tags around their necks, and porta potties on site with refreshments (stacks of cases of water) being served. Otherwise, there is nothing but concealment, inconsistent statements and inappropriate behavior by all the persons involved. And that is why I do not believe the media and the authorities when they say a massacre of little children happened that day. It was very obvious to me that Michael Piper performed no careful scrutiny of the matter, and that is OK because he is not obliged to do any careful scrutiny of Sandy Hook, but he should also not be the person to debate or otherwise hold himself out as a person w/ knowledge of this subject.

    • Anastasia, we started a thread on ‘The Information Underground’ about the Sandy Hook production job the day it started, before John Friend, VT et al: ‘You can search it there under “Connecticut State Police…’

      In any case, my conclusion is that Sandy Hook was a production of ‘Dept. of Homeland Security Video & Film’, and cost them, at the very most, between $750000 & 1000000…This include film editing, actors, bribes, payments to ‘funeral parlors’, the whole shebang…CNN was probably paid separately under their yearly contract.

      Local facilities may have been used for editing: A little known fact is that one ‘Gene Rosen’ was the director of the local Newtown Public Access TV station, which has top notch video and audio editing facilities.

      Of course, absolutely no forensic evidence of any kind was produced, all purported evidence was SEALED by the State of Connecticut, and the existence of a person named ‘Adam Lanza’ has never been established, other than his surprising appearance on the SS Death Index the DAY BEFORE THE SO CALLED SHOOTING.

      Video seen by the public was simply edits of various DHS drills which occurred in the Newtown area shortly before AND ON THE DAY OF THE EVENT.

      To stay on the present topic, it always amuses me to see ‘the experts’ engaging in extended pissing matches over ‘the truth’.

      Thank you.

      • Hey Frank! Great to see you here. If you have another forum, please leave a link.

        I’m also very suspicious of the TUT crowd. I used to listen to TUT shows, but stopped because they repeatedly accepted the official narrative for false flag shooting events (Batman , Giffords, and Sikh Temple). I wasn’t surprised by their stance on SH, but I was shocked by the immediate nastiness of the attacks on those of us questioning the official story. MG took it to the gutter level, by repeatedly calling the rest of us lunatics and crazies.

        As for these debates, what became overwhelmingly clear is that KJ, MCP, and the rest of the TUT crowd were barely familiar with the facts and evidence. It was quite astonishing to see that neither could take the time to read “Top Ten Reasons Sandy Hook was An Elaborate Hoax,” which summarized the evidence for JF and JF’s position. At least KJ attempted to do some research, but it was clear that MCP didn’t bother at all. In fact , instead of focusing on whether SH was a hoax, MCP repeatedly brought up JFetz’s earlier article about a Mossad hit team, which he already indicated was no longer his position.

        What has become overwhelmingly clear about MG, MCP, KJ and the rest of the of the TUT crowd, as well as Spingola, who recently indicated she believes the official version of SH (and went so far as to cry on her radio show ), is that they are not interested in the truth about SH. It certainly looks as though there is another agenda at hand.

  3. Another peculiar thing about SH is that not one parent brought a lawsuit for the failure of security at the school. The school looked run down; the security, as told by the press, was questionable. The legal standard for school security was set after prior school shootings. Not one parent was asked a question about security,nor did any parent question the security in the many interviews with them. Not one parent looked for a lawyer? not one could find one? not one lawyer offered to take the case? The press tells us that there were cameras; the next story is that they did not have cameras; the next story is Adam Lanza walked in through the doors; the next story is that broke through the glass; the next story is that the police had broken the glass; the next story is that glass was not broken; and the final story is the photo of the broken glass (without saying who broke it). Another peculiar thing is if you look closely at the camera going through the Lanza home, there is not one photo that could be recognized as Adam Lanza. All the recognizable photos appeared to be Ryan Lanza; when they got to the bedroom that was suggested as “Adam Lanza” bedroom, we see a bed that had not been slept in; a bed with no blanket on it in the middle of December; a closet with no boys’ clothes only boxes; a armoir with unrecognizable clothes stuffed in but folded neatly. Without the taped up windows, it truly looked like the room of a boy who was away at college or who had moved out of the family home.

    • ariel photos of the school by google earth showed the school EMPTY a few weeks before the supposed event while other schools a few miles away had cars parked allover the place. SH was not listed in the state annual roster of actively open campuses either.

  4. My head was bitten off by Mark Glenn because I simply said, after saying that I liked Mike, and thought he was a fine person, that it did not sound like Michael Piper had a “massive heart attack”. What was so awful about telling Mark Glenn that he could have been mistaken about the diagnosis? Why was he so defensive? The story told simply did not sound as if Mike had a “massive heart attack” Anyway, I do not think it is fair that Michael Collins Piper gets a trial run in a debate with you via Keith Johnson. Neither does that statement say anything about Michael Collins, because I am not insinuating anything about his culpability for that state of affairs. I simply don’t think it is fair in the contest of a debate..

  5. I will always be in your debt Jim, but this is by far the most pointless article you have ever written in the several years I have been reading your work. This is complete nonsense, childish nonsense from both sides. Policy debates, even robust ones are beneficial, name calling achieves nothing.
    In politics, disunity is death, all the bickering, name calling and denouncement as Government agents achieves nothing positive so why bother? Everything I have written applies equally to all the participants from the Ugly Truth. I

  6. I listened to the “debate”, and to MCP’s “response”. I have to say I’m extremely disappointed.

    Keith Johnson was so hysterical he bordered on the psychotic. And, most disappointing, Michael Collins Piper was also bordering on nuts. Long on attack, short on anything else.

    Not sure this debate furthers anything. Although Prof Fetzer did try to stick to the issues, it was frankly awful. I realize he has no control over his opponents actions, but as the old saying goes, never wrestle with a pig.

    • Who would have thought? I came to the same conclusions as you and the anti-Fetzer side was so bad, so condescending, so divisive, it’s really hard to understand what’s going on.

  7. Nice work Jim! Until I see credible evidence to the contrary, I can only conclude based on what information is currently available to the public, Sandy Hook is a total fiction.

  8. As long as I type something crazy I seem to be able to say anything true without being bothered. Cool. Love you all. Good day! Eureka….I have just discovered VT’s formula. hahahhaha And the rest of the alt media, eh Bambi?

  9. Yup! My mamma told me a million times to quit exaggerating. I type about 100 wpms but make about……MANY mistakes. har har yak yakity yak. I spelled plane, plain……… ooops. Hope the grammar and spelling police are busy promoting Obama care or gatekeeping for another psychopathic judeomasonic crime in step with the Protocols of Zion and Albert Pikes 3 WW letter. By the way, Pike was born to Benjamin and Sarah CHASE. It’s not Pike…that’s made up….It should be Chase. Anyway……have a nice day! By the way, Booth was part of an all Hebrew acting company. He had lunch with head of ………. the morning Lincoln was shot. I guess Ford, Voltaire, Twain, Michael Jackson were right….History is lies written by the bankers and held up by their media and Hollywood and school books. Gotta go. I don’t know if what I typed is true….I was just bored and started typing. It probably is true though…but I don’t have time to go back and look at it because I’m doing the dishes with my left foot and dusting the Encyclopedias with my other. By now. I love you all dearly. IF I WERE KING OF AMERICA….I WOULD MAKE THE REST OF THE WORLD BE STATES AND EVERYONE RECIEVES 30,000 YEAR BASE, AND ADD TO THAT PER YOUR DUTY. 30 HRS A WEEK. YOU HAD TO PASS BASIC TESTS TO REPRODUCE. THE JUDEOMASONICS GET OFFERED 100% REPRIEVE BY ME….THE KING…REMEMBER. AHHAHAHHA THEN THEY WILL FALL AT MY FEET AND KNOW THAT I HAVE LOVED THEE. A GREAT LEADER CARES ABOUT HIS PEOPLE.

  10. You showed many no plane talks proving you talked about no plane. But I also saw how many years it was after 911. hahahha ALSO, HAHAHHA Look out for my also’s….hahahhahaha, I CAN GIVE YOU 100 SHOWS ABOUT 911 POST THE ONES YOU REFERENCED WHERE YOU NEVER MENTIONED A WORD OF IT. NOT EVEN A PEEP. AT EVERY CONFERENCE IF YOU JUST SHOWED ON FILM, PLANES THAT HAVE COASTED INTO AIRPORT TERMINALS CRUSHING THE FRONT OF THE PLAIN AND NOT EVEN DENTING THE FLIMSY SMALLER AIRPORT BUILDING. SHOW THE SIZE OF THE BEAMS (36″ THICK INT./14″ EXT. WALLS THAT THE 1/8″ SHEETS OF ALUM WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE SLICED OUT REMINISCENT OFF A COOKIE STAMPER. HAHAHHA. I SAW WHERE A 12″ WOODEN TELEPHONE POLE CLIPPED OFF A LARGE AIRLINERS WING LIKE SCISSORS AND PAPER. THE POLE DIDN’T EVEN BREAK I THINK. HAHAHHA. THIS IS THE SMOKING GUN LIKE NO OTHER. THIS IS THE TICKET. FOCUS OR BE THE KNOWN DRONE. RHYMES AND EVERYTHING…BE PROUD. This is the biggest wave of 911, it will crash the beach in the near future….make sure your guys are on top of the wave when it hit solid ground. Did they tell you how dangerous surfing is. 80 million angry male sharks are swimming in the water your “team” is whizzing in. You aren’t THAT fore thinking…….are ya there…..Prometheus? hahhha I’ve read every book ever written.

  11. Hells bells, go full tilt. ADAM LANZA WAS RYAN. THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE YOU DOPES. HAHAHHAHA Jim, you don’t even realize that Adam and Ryan are the same. Remember the couple from NYC who got arrested. She was pregnant. They had explosives used in 7/7. It’s on the web. They didn’t even get into real trouble. They had illegal weapons, literature to frame white supremacists groups, that don’t even exist, only in the propaganda of Potok and the like. Mark P’s granny was a gulag master back in the day of the Bolshevik slaughter of the decent people. Remember that? You are the one representing Sandy Hook hoax and you go with the official word on Adam and Ryan being two different people? Good grief. It almost seems like you’re systematically attacking everyone who is a thorn in the judeomasonic sides. Shack and Piper. I don’t take anyone seriously. I listen and watch and then check their backgrounds and their work and then I weigh it. My scales are not bent. Every mass murder is by them. ALL OF THEM. youtube: Nixon and Graham discuss Jewish press in America. As I say, it was only after the no plane got bigger, and only then did you and your group mention no planes. Then you sort of…..COOPTED IT A BIT….BUT ONLY NOW AND THEN. OTHER TIMES, YOU DIDN’T EVEN MENTION IT AT ALL. ONLY WHEN THE TIME WAS….RIGHT? HAHAHA peek a boo. I see yew. hahahahha!

  12. @ Cyprian Crawford

    VERY interesting stuff you write. But mostly complicated especially when you get into numerology.

    Last year I heard some people talk about USSG plans to split the Madrid Fault which would split this country almost in the middle!!! Then I checked YouTube & Google & surprisingly found tons of stuff about the subject.
    Do you know anything about this???

    • Greetings LC,

      I do not have anything specific to add about a deliberate attack on the New Madrid fault line, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least, because of the proximity of Memphis, TN and St. Louis to the North. St. Louis is definitely a target, and St. Louis has the fleur-de-lis prominent on the flag. Always pay attention to any fleur-de-lis or lily references, and the context. Memphis, TN is associated with Memphis, Egypt, and there is a massive pyramid there. Cairo, TN is also not far from the New Madrid fault line, and Heliopolis, the ancient “city of the sun,” is a suburb of modern Cairo, only a handful of miles away. Heliopolis is associated with the phoenix and Ra the Egyptian sun god. So all the pieces of the puzzle are there. I just don’t have any specific info on a certain date. However, they are planning multiple earthquakes around the world this coming April, so everyone in the entire world, including New Madrid, should be making preparations for an extend period of no electricity and running water, food, etc. Begin stocking up on bottles water, food, candles, fuels, a 1500-2000 watt inverter, deep-cycle batteries, etc. right now.

  13. Cass Sunstein is just another vapid Marxist pest.

    http://home.uchicago.edu/~csunstei/celebrate.html

  14. As Chandler posits, watching brings the answers. People given to watching soaps and the general fare on the telly easily drift off into never-never land and no doubt compare the event at Sandy Hook with one of their previous fantasy programs, hence they find it all too easy to go along with the events that transpired in Newtown. In a sense, the psyoppers used mass psychology methods to ensnare shallow thinkers who are “too busy to learn the facts”. In the United States now, people are being knocked over like bowling pins on all the major issues like Common Core, the war on Terror, global warming, etc. I get the feeling that everything is working well for the perps and we are struggling to get out the word. Our audience is too small, we have no centralized planning, we are essentially all loners doing our individual thing.

    • “. In a sense, the psyoppers used mass psychology methods to ensnare shallow thinkers who are “too busy to learn the facts”. Right on Bahmi. They think they are too busy when in reality they don’t have the mental strength to turn away from bread and circuses and read and listen to truth. Also by keeping up with the latest deliberately planted trash, they have ready conversation topics at the office, on forums with friends, etc.

  15. Sandy Hook was about the planned tsunami 4/19‒4/20. Superstorm Sandy’s “Hook” was about the tsunami. The Navy Yard was about the tsunami. The Jersey Shore 6/13 tsunami was about the tsunami. Boston was about the tsunami. Chelyabinsk was about the tsunami. Aurora was about the tsunami. Norway was about the tsunami. Costa Concordia was about the tsunami. BP Deepwater (on the) Horizon was about the tsunami. Chile 8.8 M was about the tsunami. Haiti was about the tsunami. Virginia Tech was about the tsunami. Sumatra was of course about the tsunami. Space Shuttle Columbia was about the tsunami. Bali was about the tsunami. 9/11 and 3/11 (both Madrid and Japan) were about the tsunami. Columbine was about the tsunami too, and many more.

    Until one understands this, one doesn’t truly understand much of ANYTHING about Sandy Hook or any of these other false flags.

    Everything else is just diversionary noise…

    • I forgot to add Benghazi, which was also about the 4/20 megatsunami. As long as we are on the subject of Libya, I could add Operation Odyssey Dawn—that was about 4/20 also. Oh, and I forgot the Colorado 9/12 flooding, that is about 4/20 too. Sardinia (cyclone Cleopatra) was also about 4/20. Recent flooding in Venice too. Shall I go on?

      Every single one of these events are connected, and I am fully willing to share with Mr. Fetzer and the VT readership how, but there is too much childish bickering over useless minutiae.

      While you have folks bickering over whether Sandy Hook is a hoax or not, or whether nukes were used to make the WTC towers disappear, the sinister cabal behind all the attacks I listed have been planning (for several decades) worldwide flooding of truly apocalyptic proportions. If God does not spare us, and allows this impending cataclysm to come upon us, many of you won’t even be around to debate these finer points, or at least you will not have electricity to conduct your trivial radio/Internet debates.

      • Please bear over with me if you think I am somewhat dense, but are you saying here that there will be a Tsunami somewhere on 4/20/2014?

        • Greetings Dodd,

          As a Christian, I recognize that God is sovereign over His creation, and that the devil and his minions have no power against us, unless it is given from above. So I make a distinction and say the Zionists have been *planning* (for decades now) tsunamis (plural) on 4/19‒4/20 (2014), but only God knows if it will come to pass. Furthermore, I am not suggesting they have been planning eruptions/quakes/tsunamis/flooding just anywhere, but they are very specific with their targets. Sydney and San Francisco for example are very frequently shown to be targets, not just Boston, NY, and the Eastern seaboard.

          Indications are that these are worldwide tsunamis, à la the apocalyptic film 2012, which is all about 4/20. I am willing to explain how the film 2012 relates to all of this if people have had a chance to watch it.

      • This is a bold assertion Cyprian, and I would be interested in hearing more about your thesis and how the dots are connected. Is it time to buy beachfront property in Arizona? Do you think that this coming 4/20 is the one?

        “The “future maps” of the United States Navy, which is now according to some insiders, operating under the procedural protocol that the United States will be permanently split into two separate parts, with the Mississippi River being between 35-400 miles wide (depending on which maps – probably due to different estimates of the projected flooding), from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico. The U.S. Navy, according to some of these insiders, has reportedly already been preparing for this since around the time of the BP oil rig disaster.

        If that happened, it would be the fulfillment of the prophecies of Edgar Cayce, Gordon Michael Scallion, and other such seers that have foreseen the United States permanently split into two pieces, due to a cataclysmic earthquake that causes a massive flood from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico. Many confirmed psychics have had similar such visions.”
        ***http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread698569/pg1

        That article seems to dovetail with what you are saying. For example: “The BP oil rig disaster caused 11 deaths. 11 is an incredibly important Masonic number. These 11 deaths were a satanic sacrifice and homage to the beginning of the false flag kill event.

        • Greetings wolf,

          I would not make such bold assertions if I did not have literally thousands of data points supporting my point of view. You mentioned the BP oil-rig explosion. This was deliberate. It was specifically chosen to occur on 4/20. It was in the Macondo Prospect. Read Wikipedia entries for Macondo Prospect and the novel “One Hundred Years of Solitude”. There you will find the Colombia connection to 4/20. (Colombia, named after Christopher Columbus is known for drugs and marijuana, also associated with 420). Then you will see the connection to 4/20 Columbine. Then you might notice the connection to the Columbia, MD mall shooting yesterday on 1.25.2014, which totals 4/20 backwards. Then you might also notice that the shortened form of the date, 1.25.14, totals 10/12 or Columbus Day, backwards. Then you might connect this to the Columbia Shuttle disaster on 2.01.03, which again, makes 4/20 backwards.

          If I was limited to choosing just one film as a showcase for how false-flags are subliminally embedded into all Hollywood films, I probably would choose the film Knowing (2009), with Nicolas Cage. Not only is foreknowledge of the BP Deepwater Horizon oil-rig explosion deliberately embedded in this film, but also the 3/11 Japanese tsunami, the Boston Marathon, and most importantly the grand finale, their Phoenix-themed 4/19‒4/20 attacks I speak of.

          • There are also multiple 666’s hidden in this film (typical for a Nicolas Cage film, who is an avowed and unabashed satanist), as well as masonic symbols and such.

            If you don’t have an objection to watching demonic Hollywood films, I suggest everyone obtain a copy of this film, and then I will explain what they have hidden.

            By the way, the reason they chose the name “Deepwater Horizon” was to send the subliminal message that “Deep water is on the horizon”. In other words, Louisiana, and the Gulf of Mexico, deep water is on the horizon for you. That is why they had the blackout at the Louisiana Superdome for 34 minutes. 34 minutes times 60 seconds is 2040, or 4/20 backwards. The state of Louisiana and the Saints’ helmets have the fleur-de-lis, the stylized lily flower. Lilies are associated with Easter, which is on 4/20 in 2014. The opening game of the NFL season, the Broncos/Ravens game in Denver was delayed due to lightning until 7:14 PM. 7:14 PM is 19:14 military time. 19:14 totals 4/20 backwards. Same story for the San Francisco/Seattle game on SNF, and the New Orleans/Tampa game also interrupted by lightning strikes. Those were numerically tied into 4/20. None of this lightning was coincidental, but rather Tesla-based HAARP technology at work.

            P.S. Edgar Cayce was a false prophet.

          • Egads…and here I am living on the Columbia river…hmmm

            Cyprian, maybe you should post a full article at VT. Call it ‘Numerology for Dummies’ and make it simple (so I can understand it better). You seem to be picking up where Captain May left off and many believe that his exposure thwarted more than one false flag event.

            And I’m real curious about your take on Edgar Cayce. In reading about his background and uncanny success in diagnosing and prescribing treatment for patients he had never met etc, I got the impression that he was quite sincere and suffered the greatest mental and emotional shock of his life when he discovered that his subconscious information declared the ancient mystic religions to be true and acclaimed Jesus as their crowning glory.

      • Cyprian-In my fog I am not so sure why everything is tied to the tsunami. Could you explain. I do not bicker, I would just like to know what in the world you are talking about? Please don’t ell me JFK assassination is tied to the tusnami. I am realizing by sticking with VT’s articles and readers’ comments, I am rather dense-please, I m not stupid, just amazed I have made it this far in life knowing so much inaccurate information. What in the world are you talking about? Fetzer is impeccable, and I value greatly what he writes. But what about this tsunami cionnection?

        • Greetings Chandler,

          All these worldwide false flags are carried out by the same international criminal cabal. The first WTC bombing was 2/26/93, and (2+2+6) / (9+3) is 10/12, Columbus Day. Columbus Day commemorates 10/12/1492, the day Columbus is said to have reached land. 10/12/1492 totals 9/11. L to R: (1+0+1+2+1+4) totals 9, leaving (9+2) remaining, which totals 11. So you see, the date chosen to perpetrate the first WTC bombing contained hidden foreknowledge of the date selected for the 9/11 WTC bombings.

          The year prior to 9/11, Al-Qaeda was credited with the USS Cole bombing in the Gulf of Aden, on Columbus Day, 12 October. 12/10/2000: 1+2+1+0 = 4/2000 i.e. 4/20. At the beginning of 2000, there was the botched Al-Qaeda attack on the USS The Sullivans, also in Aden, 3 Jan 2000: 03.01.2000 totals 4/20. Also in the year 2000, was the supposed Kursk submarine “accidental” sinking, 12 August 2000. 12.08.2000 totals 10/12, or Columbus Day, backwards.

          Foreknowledge of the Kursk disaster was subliminally revealed more than 10 years prior in the film The Hunt For Red October. Note the “October” in the title. At the end of the film, Capt. Ramius (Sean Connery) says: “And the sea will grant each man new hope as sleep brings dreams of home: Christopher Columbus.” Alec Baldwin replies “Welcome to the New World, sir.”

          You have to narrow it down and pick one. Which event is most important or familiar to you? 9/11, 3/11, Sandy Hook? Boston? Aurora?

  16. “Piper claims that those of us who are implementing Sunstein’s plan (by infiltrating JFK, 9/11 and other “truther” groups in order to sow dissension and controversy and thereby disrupt and discredit them) focus excessively on the question of HOW these events were done (such as the number of shooters that were fired in Dealey Plaza and where JFK was hit) rather than WHO was responsible and WHY.”

    I think that Piper makes a valid point here – this quote is an accurate description of the ongoing debate in the truther community about whether Nano Thermite or Mini Nukes brought down the WTC buildings. The results? 1. Energy wasted on infighting and division between people who should be on the same side working for the same outcome. 2. More ammunition to ridicule barking moon bat conspiracy theorists.

    The false dichotomy of Thermite vs. Nukes is a distraction. The only hard facts in the argument are physical evidence of nano thermite in the WTC dust, raised Tritium levels in the water tested under the WTC, and some vehicles near the WTC buildings were strangely half burned. That’s all folks, we don’t know HOW it was done.

    We need to be better at keeping our eyes on the road, and apply a little more rigor toward separating fact from theory if we are going to find the perps (WHO).

    • Dodd….Could not agree more.

      I have previously argued exactly that in posts with Mr Fetzer who became quite abusive in his responses when I suggested he should devote his copious energy to solving who rather than how.

      If we really want a genuine campaign to bring perpetrators to justice, than I suggest a concerted effort on maybe one front with focus and energy, might bring better results. This is how law enforcement acts in say a murder case. Motive first and then how. The fact infused shot gun approach adopted by Mr Fetzer does not appear to have gained any traction over the years in bringing anyone closer to apprehension, and I dare say his audience is struggling to disseminate the myriad of information Mr Fetzer presents.

      For mine, the excellent work by Michael Collins Piper, with his book on JFK, “Final Judgement” sets out everything that is needed to be known to start action against criminals. “that is if the book were not banned”

      I wish Mr Collins-Piper a full and speedy recovery. I trust Mr Fetzer will do the same although from the above article it does not appear the case.

  17. As I have said elsewhere, audit the burials of the supposed child victims. Just who was buried exactly where? Almost all else can, and will, be fabricated.

    It’s a ‘pay-attention’ world these days. Beer-induced dozing in front of the telly is not citizenship enough.

    • I had done some reading about non-destructive methods to investigate gravesites and found a contact person in the federal bureaucracy. I emailed the person who had done some recent research on analysis of gravesites with new instrumentation and thought I was going to get some cooperation, at least in discussion. Wrong. When I told them what my interest was, I was disconnected at the speed of light. They didn’t want to hear that some nosy person was intent on seeing if such technology would unearth, no pun intended, if there were actual bodies in the graves or just cheap, tough cuts of beef. The responsive government is a total fallacy.

  18. Preston James, Ph.D

    Obviously, Sandy Hook is another major litmus test for being “clean” or “dirty’, legitimate or somehow compromised. Once again Professor Fetzer shakes loose the wheat from the chaf and exposes the chaf for all to see. He does this with great skill and regularity.

    Anyone who is not legit had best refrain from debating Prof. Fetzer, because he will shred them publicly and fully expose them. I have personally seen Prof. Fetzer shred manytwisted ones and for this he is unmatched. He smokes ‘em out one by one and has blown the cover on many.

    Good work Dr. Fetzer, very good work once again. The most convincing “compromised” psyoppers like Chomsky project serious truth followed by an occasional very bad payload. It takes a very informed expert to smoke ‘em out. Piper has delivered a very bad payload and one that is obviously false with his wrong conclusion about Sandy Hook.

    That’s right, no dead kids, no dead teachers, no dead Lanzas, in fact no verified evidence that any Lanzas ever existed. Sandy Hook was a virtually created illusion/delusion major psyop false-flag attack on the Second Amendment using actors moved in two years before. They got their big payouts and are all moving on. Nobody knows their real names except for the psyop planners in DHS and the FBI. Great work, Prof. fetzer.

    • Well Said Preston, I am in full agreement.

      Well done Jim, you have risen above the disgusting ad hominem tactics of Piper and his cronies and thoroughly refuted their stance, exposing them as the agents of disinfo they surely are.

      Until this debacle, had held MCP in quite high regard, not last for Final Judgment, which I felt added a significant aspect to our understanding of the murky world behind the JFK assassination. I now have to thoroughly re-examine my thoughts on this matter.

      Dennis Cimino might be right in his assertion that MCP doesn’t write his own books and rather, they are the product of the intelligence services.

  19. In medicine you are taught to learn the normal first before getting concerned with learning the abnormal. In using four of your five senses (exclude taste,) you can examine a patient. Once you learn the normal, you can easily detect when something is abnormal. This works in most anything in life. In being very acquainted in the business I am for 40 years, I am keenly aware of how authorities can handle a case being used to their benefit, and how they are covering up evidence and information that would work against them (as they do in getting you to seek vaccines.)

    The one single segment of the Sandy Hook hoax, everyone should listen and watch the unprofessional, unethical, and morbidly comical behavior of the coroner trying so explain something obviously not true. His actions are sadly the most tell-tale example of the hoax. For the lack of knowing the normal legal, ethical, and moral boundaries upon a coroner is such a disastrous situation, the mere chuckling, and over-explanatory effort he is exhibiting is the most glaring example of the hoax in and of itself. Watch other coroners with real-life tragedies during press conferences, then watch this clown. His ethical behavior should be reported to his licensure board. He has tarnished his own profession. His charlatan performance was cheap and grossly unprofessional. Thanks Mr. Fetzer. Great stuff!!

    • After seeing the performances (and that is what they were) of Carver, Parker and Rosen, who wouldn’t smell a rat?

  20. Greetings Tyron,

    Thank you for the kind words of encouragement. Examining the cabalistic numerology behind all these attacks is helpful in establishing how they connect one attack to another to send a specific subliminal message, forming a coherent narrative. But for those who are overwhelmed or cannot absorb the numerological aspects, it is still possible to form word associations or make connections based on certain concepts, familiar to all.

    Take 9/11 for example. How is this related to 4/20? Setting aside for the moment the numerological connections, of which there are many, let’s examine some mythological connections. The outer portion of the WTC towers were constructed with many steel trident columns. The trident was given to Poseidon by the one-eyed race of giant Cyclopes. You can see how the Illuminati, who are always planting single-eyed (all-seeing eye) symbolism everywhere in the media, might think of themselves as a single-eyed race of giants.

    Now, lots were cast, and Poseidon was given dominion over the sea, and came to exercise dominion over the famed lost continent Atlantis. The occultist and Rosicrucian Sir Francis Bacon is involved in all of this, writing a book called “New Atlantis”. America is the “New Atlantis,” and as Plato relates, Atlantis was destroyed in one night and one day [4/19‒4/20], by earthquakes and tsunamis. Poseidon (Latin: Neptune) possessed the power to stir up the winds and causes storms and tidal waves with his trident.

  21. Responses are limited to 1500 words, and I just noticed some of the tail portions of one of my messages was cut-off.

    01/12/2010 also totals 4/20/10, connecting the attack on Haiti to the future attack 88 days later on the BP Deepwater Horizon oil-rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Columbus discovered the island Hispaniola (present day Haiti/Dominican republic) on his first voyage. I wrote a message beneath one of the recent articles here on VT detailing how the James Bond film Quantum of Solace was embedded with subliminal foreknowledge of the Haiti HAARP attack. There are 4/20 references in this film too.

  22. A sidenote: the trident is the national symbol of Ukraine, which is in the news at present, and it appears on their coat of arms, and this is related to all of this, but I digress.

    They took a couple massive trident pieces left over from the rubble of the WTC and featured them prominently in the 9/11 memorial. They are putting them right there in our faces, under our noses, seeing if we will pick up on the subliminal message they are sending.

    The WTC twin towers metaphorically represent the twin pillars or columns of Herakles, (Latin: Hercules), and this is related to Poseidon and his dominion Atantis, because the lost realm of Atlantis was said to be situated beyond the Pillars of Hercules. So, if the WTC towers on the island of Manhattan represent the Pillars of Hercules, then beyond these pillars (westward), must be (New) Atlantis, i.e. America.

    This is all tied to Christopher Columbus, who sailed from Cádiz, a province of southwestern Spain, on his second and fourth voyages to the Americas. Notice that Hercules and his twin pillars appear on the coat of arms of Cádiz, and the twin pillars of Hercules also appear on the flag of Spain, along with the fleur-de-lis, connecting all this to the Easter lily.

  23. See the Wikipedia article on “Torres de Hercules” in Cádiz, their highest buildings, twin towers, with Poseidon’s tridents hidden within the lattice-work pattern of these buildings. These twin towers were deliberately designed and built subsequent to 9/11, to cement the connection between the Towers of Hercules in NY, (1WTC and 2WTC), and these in Spain.

    All these attacks are tied into Christopher Columbus, which is why the first WTC bombing was on 2/26/93, which simply totals 10/12 or Columbus Day. 10/12, or 1+0+1+2 equals 4. Total 9 and 11 and you get 20. So the combination of the two WTC bombings makes 4/20. There were 4 “events” or (alleged) hijackings on 9/11. 4/9+11 = 4/20.

    The Illuminati/Masons deliberately chose 911 as the national emergency call number back in 1968, knowing full well their intention to carry out attacks decades later on September 11, 2001.

    As with the case of 911, the European 112 emergency number, adopted by approximately 80 different countries worldwide, was ritualistically unveiled in 1991 to provide further subliminal cues to future attacks.

    On 112, i.e. January 12, 2010, Haiti suffered a devastating H.A.A.R.P earthquake attack at the hands of this sinister international cabal, with estimates of casualties approximately 250,000.. The 112 attack in Haiti is tied into 10/12, the traditional Columbus Day, and 01/12/10 also makes 3/11 backwards, connecting the attack to the tsunami water-ritual attack on Japan.

  24. The association between 420 and marijuana did not arise spontaneously or by happenstance, as the speculative legends about its origin would suggest, but rather was a deliberately implemented psychological operation put forth by Jewish-Masonry and the Illuminati.

    If we total the 1+1+2 for the European emergency number we get 4. If we add 9 and 11 together from the North American emergency number 911, we get 20. So the combination of the 112 and 911 gives us 4/20, the day the Illuminati has chosen decades ago for their diabolical plot to flood much of the world on Pascha/Easter.

    I have some obligations to attend to, so I will have to continue this later.

    Warm regards and best wishes to you and yours.

  25. Cass Sunstein is married to Samantha Power.

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For over 60 years, US Taxpayers have been funding Israel, Palestine and Middle East. Are you happy with return on investment or would you prefer those monies be invested at home instead?

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