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9/11 Debate Challenge deadline approaching!

 

by Kevin Barrett, Editor, Veterans Today

 

Was Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 remote-hijacked – just like the 9/11 planes? Check out my latest radio interview with David Griscom. Also see my brand-new Press TV article:

 

Malaysian plane disappearance linked to 9/11

 
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Dr. David Griscom is a highly-rated physicist – and a leading challenger to the official story of 9/11, which he says violates the laws of physics.

Dr. Griscom, together with the Association for 9/11 Truth Awareness (ANETA.org) and Truth Jihad Radio, issued a debate challenge February 20th via the most active anti-9/11-truth website, the James Randi forum. Any qualified physicist who actually believes the official story of 9/11 is invited to step forward and defend those beliefs – and try to win a $1000 prize!

Dr. Griscom can't find a single qualified physicist who thinks the 9/11 official story is compatible with the laws of physics


Dr. Griscom can’t find a single qualified physicist who thinks the 9/11 official story is compatible with the laws of physics

The debate was originally scheduled for March 15th, 2014 at noon Eastern time. We have been looking for a physicist with a Hirsch Index rating over 50 (i.e. a highly qualified physicist in the same league as Dr. Griscom). Unfortunately, there does not seem to be even one highly-qualified physicist in the world who can argue that the official story of 9/11 is permitted by the laws of physics!
 
The proposed debate question is:

Resolved:

1) The laws of physics were broken by the official story and we need a new investigation
or
2) The laws were not broken, and everything was explainable. The 9/11 Commission Report is fine as is.

The debate will be 2 hours with three 10 minute breaks every half hour for a total time of 1.5 hours.

The winner will be determined by audience vote and will receive $1000 towards the non-profit charity of his or her choice.

 

Also note that my own 9/11 debate challenge has been offering $1000 and later $2000 to any University of Wisconsin instructor who can defend the official story of 9/11. This offer has been up for several years, with no takers. Speaks volumes, doesn’t it?

 

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49 Comments for “9/11 Debate Challenge deadline approaching!”

  1. Howard T.Lewis III

    I have yet to see anyone separate from their computer long enough to research the demolition systems and defense lobbying efforts which terminated the demolition preset practice(lawful demolition system presets) throughout the U.S.after the Chicago Sears & Roebuck (Willis)Tower. I have been carrying this weight for over 44 years and it goes way beyond heavy. You pieces of fluff can’t even read a word of this. I am in a ‘The Truman Show’ scenario while you strut.

  2. YAISHUA MESHICHAINU

    I’d like to enter the debate contest. I am not a certified Physicist, but I do think I have an iron clad argument for the official version. I will even tell it to you in advance Based on Romans 13, we are told to submit to the ruling authorities, whom God has placed over us to rule for our benefit.

    Since the American rulers have formed commissions and published results confirming their verdict of the 9-11 attacks, we must simply bow our heads and accept. Believe even when science and reason say otherwise. Isn’t that what faith is all about?

    And if I lose the debate then I will simply phone up Dick Cheney and ask him to authorize a drone strike on the audience members.

    I am a graduate of the Founders’ Utterly Comprehensive Knowledge University, better known as F.U.C.K. U.

    • funniest comment on Veterans Today!
      Bless You.

    • Howard T.Lewis III

      I am not anti-authority. I do demand a higher standard. That was not God who wrote for all people to accept dominance of authorities flopping about on earth. That was Constantine who had that added to Scripture and he was a pagan until his death bed, when he decided not to take any chances.

  3. Danielnoel,You are confusing intellectual shortcomings with deliberate lies perpetrated by a hired traitor.

  4. I noticed a funny thing.

    People brainwashed by Holocaust stories believe the official 9/11 story, while a lot of Holocaust revisionists do not.

  5. 12+ years later, and you want to debate the physics behind the destruction of the WTC towers? Anyone can simply look at the videos and see they were blown to smithereens. Stop wasting everyone’s time and talk about something more useful related to 9/11. Why don’t you have a debate about the next 9/11, instead of misdirecting everyone’s attention, dwelling on the minutiae underlying the mechanics of the last 9/11.

    I’ll debate any of the editors here on VT, who are a bunch of disinfo agents and gatekeepers.

    • I just thought about asking you something, it must be telepathy that you are back.

      Have you heard that Hitler’s Third Reich lastet 4.444 days?

      • maybe the word you are looking for is
        synchronicity

        which Jung posited to be God
        ;-)

      • Howard T.Lewis III

        I imagine to get that 4,444 number, the Nazi occultists consciously sacrificed others for their own occult purposes. I have known this certain dedicated Mormon who when he lies and cheats, believes it is not lying and cheating. When he steals, he believes it is not theft. I would never turn my back on this clown nor occultist Nazis. When things begin to go wrong, they panic and make mistakes, which they believe are not mistakes. (When you go fishing with a Mormon, always take two Mormons or he will drink all of your beer.)
        Like mainstream freshly caught crabs in a tub in the middle of your boat, they retreat into madness and drag others in who wish to escape, not seeing salvation just over the edge of the tub. We need to arrest some people or we are doomed as a nation.
        Jesuit black robes are inappropriate garb for an American judge. Do not be intimidated by them and do NOT lie to them regardless of what the judge wears in court. Freemasons may safely lie to Freemason judges. Otherwise, that is a quick trip to the steamer pot. We need to prosecute and win. We have the numbers.

  6. @ joe chuy-medina–

    ……that’s called CARTOON PHYSICS according to Ace Baker documentary which was one of the last videos linked on below page. & CARTOON PHYSICS is the science that the OFFICIAL 9/11 REPORT is based on!!!

    *******www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/27/the-jfk-war-the-dysfunctional-education-deep-politics-and-jfkfacts-research-forums/

    Dr. Barrett – please add Ace Baker’s $100,000.00 prize award to your list of prizes.

    In addition please add the $2,000.00 award of the guy to anyone who can prove nukes weren’t used on 9/11.
    If you need that link I have to find it again.
    thanks. -lc

  7. Sic Semper Tyrannis

    Not “officially”, but definitely unofficially according to his colleagues in the Senate as was in the case of Senator Paul Wellstone who was killed by Cheney with a high-powered microwave laser that fried his plane’s circuitry when it was approaching for landing at Duluth, Minnesota…

    http //www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-bmmpoDndw

    http //www.wellstonetheykilledhim.com/

    This assassination occurred on October 25th, 2002 – 10 days before the midterm elections. His death handed over control of the Senate from the Democrats to the GOP. He was well ahead of Norm Coleman, his GOP competitor.

    The NTSB could not investigate the crash as a crime because Bush’s Attorney General, Ashcroft, would not declare it a crime scene according to Dr. Jim Fetzer’s research. The fire took 7.5 hours to burn out!

    http //www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N882_77Ig4

  8. joe chuy-medina

    Mr Barrett like you, I have done some fairly extensive research, several hundred hours, and believe, from my information, that each plane had the transponders turned off far in advance of the strikes. The ATC’s were following blips on the radar. The commander of NORAD, Eberhardt, testified to the commission in April of 2004, that NORAD had control of the airspace that morning, so, how were any planes hijacked or even flown out of their assigned routes?
    There were no planes. This obviates any debate about how a plane could have punched through at least 6′ of vertical steel, plus several floors of horizontal steel grid under the concrete floors, plus 40-60′ of reinforced concrete 4″ floors. People see the nose of the plan jab through the steel outer walls like a knife stabbing a potato without realizing that the nose piece is fragile plastic.
    As Koestler said, people believe what they want to believe and see what they expect to see or are told to see. In August 2013 a UPS Airbus 300 crashed during slow flight landing, and was broken apart into many pieces when it struck some small trees short of the runway at Birmingham. You may have seen that in USA Today recently. We accept that such a “minor” crash could totally destroy the plane, yet watch the planes strike the Pentagon and the towers without blinking.

    • Howard T.Lewis III

      Several pieces of video footage produced for CNN by an independent contractor not willing to elaborate or cooperate with any interview confuse the plane/hologram issue with the added claims by an ex-CIA pilot that he has seen life-sized 3-d holograms and states his opinion without being present at the WTCs on 9-11-2001. Hundreds if not thousands of people saw jets hit the WTCs and stacks of photos and CDs hold video footage recording the damage to the impact zones of these structures. Holograms can not burst a child’s balloon.

      • They were jet powered, all right. But they were not manned and they were not passenger jets, but looked sort of like passenger jets with bulges under each one that concealed a bunker buster whose uranium penetrator came out of the back of one tower burning bright orange, the spectral signature of uranium. The floor that the missile hit (It was a missle with wings like a buzz bomb or drone.) was used for computer back up batteries and 3 weeks before the batteries had been replaced with thermite in large quantities, not to mention the wiring for demolition and beam cutting with explosive bolts installed that took a minimum of three weeks to accomplish. There were more witnesses killed after the event than victims killed during the event. A little over three hundred sacrifices to Moloch on 9/11, and about three hundred more because they saw detonations in the basement, etc.(The JFK assassination required them to kill about as many witnesses.) This type of grandiose lie is very Talmudic in nature like the inflated figures given by these crypto-jews for the deaths of genuine Jews during the Holocaust. They think we are stupid, that is their weakness, hence CBS still is promoting the “magic.bullet” that supposedly killed JFK and Governor Connaly.

      • There are large scale holographic projection units possessed by the Government, but they weren’t used in 9/11. They will use them to create the “second coming of Jesus” while the HAARP transmitter fills the citizen’s heads with “divine bliss” and the voice of “Jesus”. Then the faithful will be inspired to attack the enemies of “divinity”. This is very real technology, and it’s ready for deployment.

        • Howard T.Lewis III

          In 1988 I witnessed a 2-D hologram image projector in action over central Seattle at about 6PM in October. A Boeing video production employee informed me shortly thereafter that it was them. Weirdest thing I had ever seen. Simple orange ovals a few thousand or less feet straight up over the freeway and NE45th.
          Most of the demolition systems in the WTCs I, II, and 7 were installed during construction, including nukes in the basements. This should be intuitively obvious. This quite obviously was an insane mandate, unless death and war were the desired outcome. That was the outcome. The New York Times and Seattle newspapers covered this and the lobbying which terminated the procedure( as a legal procedure). I documented this in 1969 so my father could bail out of the project. I was about 16 and have carried sharp steel ever since. Things got tough. Nobody would listen then either. Retelling this never attracted women, at all. Getting anyone in these comments columns to respond is near hopeless. Go to therealdeal.com with Dr. Jim Fetzer for a two hour interview on my experience as the systems were introduced and completed. Add to this chat the use of exploding bolts and the cessation of the practice of welding together adjacent perimeter panels about 5 floors up. Dr. Neils Harritt, Dr. Ed Ward, MD, Jeff Prager, Chris Bollyn, et al have contributed much beyond my personal experience which is well enough documented and proven by laboratory science to accept. Ordnance updates occurred.

      • Howard T.Lewis III

        The steel was(surprisingly) only 1/4″ and 7/16″ thick where impacted. Please examine the spech sheets. At least one spot impacted was occupied by a Bush cabal member who manufactured different grades of thermitic material. All indications are that this opportunity for a quick buck was taken and a Mossad crew painted the stuff on or rerigged the initiators.
        The director of this cabal company played hookey from a 9AM business meeting where the jet hit so he could be across the street at CNN to be first on the CFRtv to shape the public’s perception of the attacks. We are not dealing with geniuses here. Just overpaid punks and sheeple suitable for service to the Crowned genetic slag of the EU.
        So nice to see the first report of Flight 370 crashing was totally devoid of truth and from the present day edition of the Bush cabal’s Zapata oil. The apple does not fall far from the tree.

  9. Howard T.Lewis III

    1) Substitute jets
    2) 1/4″ and 7/16 thick structural steel wall panels prepared with one or more different types of thermitic ordnance applied during construction and initiated by the jets’ electrical fields
    3) At least three nuclear fission or fusion devices installed beneath the basements to provide a directed energy propagation directly up into the WTCs I and II melting and sublimating steel while incinerating the resin based cement. The pits of Corium also served to melt the collapsing upper structures.
    4) Likely updated fuel and perhaps mininukes to further limit the potential for damage to surrounding person, structures and property
    5) Both Bushes, Harari, Silverstein, et al, walk due to endemic corruption and an American public hypnotized by cat toys, the CFRtv, boobs, and lying pedophile priests.

    • The Russians could blow the doors off the PNAC neo-con conspiracy by producing the PNET declarations for the nuclear demolition devices under the WTC. Khalezov says he has seen them.
      Seems like now is a good time to put up!

      • Howard T.Lewis III

        Yup. Those documents ARE out there somewhere. So are the notes recording the moment the Rockefellers specified “ALCHEMY” as the means by which the exterior aluminum siding was to be attached to the underlying steel perimeter panels. As a commonly known observation (among the builders and the French), the WTCs had begun to shed this exterior aluminum and the WTCs I and II had to come down right on schedule. What did Raum Emmanuel say “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” Now the fellow holds the fuse to the Chicago Willis Tower(nee Sears & Roebuck Tower) after Silverfish bought and sold it to a rabbi buddy back in 2004. The Willis Tower was loaded like the WTCs I, II, and 7, and the UN Bldg. during construction. I documented those also during installation in the early 1970s. The UN was done before the others. About the same time they put the Fukushima reactors on the beach in a tsunami zone, storing all the spent fuel on top of the reactors. Few cared much. I am smarter than that.

        • Howard T.Lewis III

          People still do not care. I do. We are being irradiated by an entity that believes they need to drag us into the afterlife with them when they die. I refuse this involuntary recruitment as I really enjoy life here on earth. I have been carrying this info for 44 years. I told two or three congressmen but they did not believe it. They still act like they don’t. They get reelected to ignore it.

  10. Next 9/11?

    Is this a possible candidate?

    “Its maximum length is c.9,000 mi, and its greatest width c.11,000 mi”

  11. The official 9/11 narrative is nothing but a farrago of wild implausibilities and physical impossibilities, held together with the chicken wire of public ignorance and the spit of corporate media collaboration.

  12. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A 911 CONSPIRACY WAS REALLY EXPOSED?

    I think that without the internet the official line would have been accepted. In the 12 years since 911 things have changed. If it really was a monstrous false flag event, then the perpetrators got their timing wrong. They could not have seen the coming power of alternative media.

    I am 90% sure somebody is very worried about the outcome, and all the money and influence in the world is not going to protect them. Only a totalitarian state will be able to do that. Is that where we are heading?

    • Its seems the 911 conspiracy has already been REALLY exposed- Building 7 is the elephant in the room. At this point it doesn’t matter if we get a real investigation in my opinion and that could actually add to the diviseness and do more harm than good (Though I’d still like to see an investigation happen deep down inside lol). I mean look at all the JFK divisiveness, More controversy, more wiggle room for the perps.

      The blatant hypocrisy going on now or the rapid influx of people seeking the truth on a wide range of topics on the internet, or the widespread disapproval of congress and Eric Snowden (Wiki pysops), or even the Palestinian cause- all reactions because of the 911 catalysts- the internet truth/ justice seekers.

    • Have any Senators or Representatives expressed doubt about 911 oficially in Congress?

      • Whatever happens in the world, all politicians are on auto pilot. Same for the mass media. The rest of the world knows the truth.

  13. They won’t accept the challenge because they can’t. Buildings don’t commit suicide and turn into a fine dust for no reason, and anyone with normal IQ knows this. You don’t need a physicist to understand this, you need someone with a room temperate IQ or better.

    Which of course leaves out Onmi-**** and his band of sloped foreheads. Not certain what perverse joy he derives from annoying normal people with his display of ignorance, but perhaps he’ll move on when he realizes that adults post here.

  14. Ahhh, the Great James Randi, a magician proving that the magic used by David Copperfield is only legerdemain.

  15. The official narrative of 9/11 is America’s own “Mini-Holocaust”, i.e., an officially irrefutable dogma which cannot be challenged or investigated with any degree of impartiality because this, of course, would constitute an “insult to the victims’ memory”. It is a useful, Sorelian myth which serves as an ideological underpinning for a bellicose foreign policy, the formation of an ever more intrusive (and lucrative) “security state”, the exaltation of Israeli brutality and intransigence as “being tough on the terrorists” and the erosion of traditional rights to privacy and the rule of law.

    Like all such historical mythology- such as the so called “Holocaust”, it is based on being seen from afar, placed on a dogmatic pedestal and characterized by a dreamlike suspension of the laws of reason and simple common sense. It cannot bear the scrutiny of open and honest investigation or debate.
    Tragically, as long as it is kept “sacred and inviolable” in the public imagination, i.e., that preponderance of the public whose event horizon does not extend beyond the “American” entertainment cycle of Super Bowls, Grammys and Oscars- it will be safe.

  16. But the 9/11 planes WERE NOT hijacked by remote control! I don’t understand how my friend and associate can be demanding a 9/11 debate when his own position in relation to the planes is completely indefensible

    (1) Flights 11 and 77 were not even scheduled to fly that day (as Gerard Holmgren was the first to observe);

    (2) FAA Registration data shows the planes used on Flights 93 and 175 were not de-registered (or formally taken out of service) until 28 September 2005;

    (3) How can planes that were not even in the air have crashed on 9/11? and how can planes that crashed on 9/11 have still been in the air four years later?

    (4) Pilots for 9/11 Truth have established (on the basis of air/ground communication records) that Flight 93 was in the air that day but that it was over Champaign-Urbana, IL, after it had allegedly crashed in Shanksville; and,

    (5) Pilots has also established that Flight 175 was also in the air that day, but that it was over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, PA, LONG AFTER it had allegedly hit the South Tower.

    See “9/11 Truth will out The Vancouver Hearings I”, for example, or, more recently, “The Midwest 9/11 Truth Conference, Part 2″ (YouTube), which are easily accessible on line.

    • David Griscom’s hypothesis is that 11 and 175 were (remote?) hijacked and landed as remote-controlled drones crossed paths with them and flew into the Towers. http //911blogger.com/news/2010-12-07/david-griscom-phds-analysis-911-flight-path-anomalies This hypothesis is compatible with all of the above five points, at least until more information about what “not scheduled” entails emerges, which might raise questions about point 1. Scheduled or not, the FAA tracked all four flights from their takeoffs, and 11 and 175 “just happened” to cross paths over an Air Force base – the perfect opportunity for a switcheroo and landing, as Griscom explains.

      • Hey Omniputz.. I thought you were “always polite” here? No, you’re not. YOU are the unmitigated asshole here. How about YOU prove something for once instead of playing the “prove it even more!” game. Everyone here sees through your game. Your shill game ain’t workin, sport.

        Here ya go.. Cry us some big tears for all these little Johnnies and Joanies. Try to debunk this you ass clown — more proof of Sandy Hoax (and Boston Hoax and Colorado Hoax, etc) http //www.dcclothesline.com/2014/03/10/sandy-hook-deception-associated-press-stories-photos-predate-massacre/

    • Howard T.Lewis III

      I would think that with so much recorded data and interviews out there confirming the existence of aircraft reported to have been used for the 911 attacks actually being in service at later dates and times, one would feel shamed in denying their existence and should instead INSIST on being fed this mountain of proof with a spoon. Search engines are the freedom to learn or disprove. Actually being present also is an edge.

      • Howard T.Lewis III

        Should he deliver the AA officials and schedules directly to your home or perhaps at a conference in the Bahamas where you could be provided a suite of rooms after first-class seating with the airline of your choice. Pilots for 911 Truth are a no nonsense group. And not nearly as time consuming to contact and learn from. They might even hang up on you. When specifying “required”, who do you quote?

  17. Ok, sorry everyone, I went into my account on the Tube and although “safety” was off, I turned it on and then back off and I can see the comments again. Sorry again for the false alarm and posting it here but this is the first place I thought of to report this. This CRAP sucks. Now I know a 10th of what the poor North Korean people experience!

  18. Not to change the Topic but this is important. It looks like someone, or entity, has disabled comments on YouTube. Been down for over an hour now, and you can’t even see the old posts. Either they have revoked my freedom of speech, which, I guess I don’t have anyway, or they shut down everyone as it was getting pretty damned heated. Anyone else having trouble or is it just MY computer?

  19. WTC7 COLLAPSE, NO ENGINE MARKS ON THE PENTAGON…………….

    The official story is not believable, and you don’t need to be a professor to see that.

    • Howard T.Lewis III

      See the U.S. Coast Guard Report pre Janet. Numerous photographs of A-3 Skywarrior and Global Hawk cruise missile parts outside and inside the pentagon. This is the report that Major General(ret) Albert Stubblebine based his final decision on as to WHAT hit the pentagon Obviously it was not a 757 or 767. Also quite obviously, there are some highly ranked military/nonmilitary individuals with personal problems holding America hostage. Whoever directed nuking Fukushima needs a shrink badly. Qui bono?

  20. Yeah, one wonders how the big lie promulgated by the Party can remain in place at all. James Randi, interesting fellow, a professional illusionist (magician) who is also a major player in CSI (Center for Skeptical Inquiry). CSI was founded by Dr. Paul Kurtz (now deceased), a former philosophy professor at SUNY-Buffalo, of jooish ancestry, and clearly a CIA asset. These folks are propagandists who paint themselves as ‘free thinkers’ (skeptics) but they are never skeptical of official government positions. Down with professional magicians and their illusions.

    • The Magic castle in Hollywood is a center of evil. It’s membership consists of professional magicians. There is something rotten generally about that profession.

  21. Commentators?

  22. In the video I have, number seven falls down evenly from end to end. “Rationalists”, huh? More like N.S.A..

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