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UPDATE 2: Malaysia Air Flight 370 Facts of the Flight and 10 Possible Scenarios

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Here is the #MH370 situation update. I will try to update this article as conditions change.

Let us first start with the basics. The statistics as initially reported are incorrect. Here are the stats for the flight.

The ADS-B transponder of an aircraft is transmitting data twice per second. FR24 saves data every 10-60 seconds depending on altitude. Data is normally saved once per 60 seconds. By analyzing all our databases and logs, we have managed to recover about 2 signals per minute for the last 10 minutes.

Time of departure: 16:41+-
Last position
Time UTC: 17:21
Lat: 6.97
Lon: 103.63
Alt: 35000
Speed: 471 knots
Heading: 40

This is less than one hour of flight, which is contrary to the reported duration of around 2 hours. This flight only lasted 38-40 minutes on radar. Coincidence: Pan Am Flight 103 was in the air 38 minutes.

Between 17:19 and 17:20 the aircraft was changing heading from 25 to 40 degrees, which is completely according to flight plan. Previous flights of MH370 on both 4 March and 8 March did the same at the same position. The last 2 signals are both showing that the aircraft is heading in direction 40 degrees.

We have heard reports in media that MH370 may have turned around. I have not seen this in the evidence from the tracking database. This could have happened if the aircraft suddenly lost altitude, as FR24 database coverage in that area is limited to about 29,000 feet.

There were no emergency squawk alerts for flight MH370 before coverage was lost of the aircraft. Playback for flight MH370 is available on the following page.

Click Here to see the radar screen of the flights in the area and what seems to be a huge Radar “Blink”

 

There is a clock rolling on the left legend under search 

You should pay attention to the following aircraft:

MAS 370     This is Malaysian Air 370 Departed at 16:41    You can find the airport from which he departed on the left
   mid portion of the screen under the word Malaysia.
 
KAL 672 Korean Airlines.  Flt 872 Departed at 16:14    This aircraft is flying north our of Kuala Lumpur. Very erratic flight.
   It disappears then reappears at the moment  MAS 370 disappears
 
UAE 419 United Arab Emirates  Flt 419    Overflies Brunei     
     at 16:39
   This aircraft enters from the middle right-hand of the screen.
   It flies across the ocean toward Bangkok. However previous flights
   are in a substantially different flight path from Sydney to Bangkok.
   This aircraft disappears and then reappears after FLT370 disappears.

Most recently investigators have moved the search area to the Indian Ocean. This move is based upon two clues.

  1. An unidentified military radar contact passing west over Kota Baru Malaysia to the  Malacca Strait. 
    (Here is my issue with this report. An unidentified aircraft entering the Malaysian Air Defence Zone would set off a set of actions which include sending up military fighters to intercept the aircraft. No such action was taken.
  2. Pings received from Rolls Royce engines. The pings supply no data, only 4 pings to the satellites each about one hour apart, indicating that a set of Rolls Royce engines were operating in the Indian Ocean.
    (There were 3 aircraft flying in the NW route at the time that pings were received. It is very possible any of these Aircraft were operating Rolls Royce engines.)

It is apparent that a huge radar “blind spot” that did not previously exist has occurred in the area. This Radar interference caused several aircraft to leave the radar screen in a 1 hour period — only one did not return on radar.

We are evaluating this information. There are several scenarios. Pandora, by Grumman Northrop Technologies can interfere with long distance tracking of aircraft, thus creating large areas where the transponders are unable to effectively communicate, and radar signals are blocked. The larger version of Pandora (APR 39B(V)) is found on AWACS Aircraft and other aircraft available to many governments.

Some of the possible causes for the plane disappearing include:

A CATASTROPHIC STRUCTURAL/MECHANICAL/ELECTRICAL FAILURE

Most aircraft are made of aluminum, which is susceptible to corrosion over time, especially in areas of high humidity. Given the plane’s long history and impressive safety record, experts suggest that a failure of the air frame, or the plane’s Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines, is unlikely.

More of a threat to the plane’s integrity is the constant pressurization and depressurization of the cabin for takeoff and landing. In April 2011, a Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 made an emergency landing shortly after takeoff from Phoenix after the plane’s fuselage ruptured, causing a 5-foot tear. The plane, with 118 people on board, landed safely. But such a rupture is less likely in this case. Airlines fly the 777 on longer distances, with many fewer takeoffs and landings, putting less stress on the air frame.

Taking into account the possibility of a massive electrical failure, one would think that it would have taken the Auto Pilot offline also causing uncontrollable flight and a dive or stalling attitude. This is negated by the report of Radar Contact 1 hour later over Malaysia heading WNW.

“It’s not like this was Southwest Airlines doing 10 flights a day,” Hamilton said. ”There’s nothing to suggest there would be any fatigue issues.”

Cargo Fire (Updated 3/21)
The aircraft would have had to land immediately as per emergency procedures. In addition the Pilots would have had time to communicate with the ground. There again. Absent of debris filed, not likely. Even with a water landing. Those large engines would have ripped the wings off upon landing and probably would have cracked the fuselage providing a debris field from both cargo and passenger cabin.

BAD WEATHER

Planes are designed to fly through most severe storms. However, in June 2009, an Air France flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris crashed during a bad storm over the Atlantic Ocean. Ice built up on the Airbus A330′s airspeed indicators, giving false readings. That, and bad decisions by the pilots, led the plane into a stall causing it to plummet into the sea. All 228 passengers and crew aboard died. The pilots never radioed for help.

In the case of Saturday’s Malaysia Airlines flight, all indications show that there were clear skies.

PILOT DISORIENTATION

Curtis said that the pilots could have taken the plane off autopilot and somehow gone off course and didn’t realize it until it was too late. The plane could have flown for another five or six hours from its point of last contact, putting it up to 3,000 miles away. LOSS OF OXYGEN IS ANOTHER CAUSE OF A PILOT BEING DISORIENTED. THIS IS CALLED HYPOXIA. This is unlikely  But it’s too early to eliminate it as a possibility.

FAILURE OF BOTH ENGINES

In January 2008, a British Airways 777 crashed about 1,000 feet short of the runway at London’s Heathrow Airport. As the plane was coming in to land, the engines lost thrust because of ice buildup in the fuel system. There were no fatalities.

Loss of both engines is possible in this case, but Hamilton said the plane could glide for up to 20 minutes, giving pilots plenty of time to make an emergency call. When a US Airways A320 lost both of its engines in January 2009 after taking off from LaGuardia Airport in New York, it was at a much lower elevation. But Capt. Chesley B. “Sully” Sullenberger still had plenty of communications with air traffic controllers before ending the six-minute flight in the Hudson River. Even with engine loss, there would have been communications. Unlikely scenario.

A BOMB

Several planes have been brought down, including Pan Am Flight 103 between London and New York in December 1988. There was also an Air India flight in June 1985 between Montreal and London, and a plane in September 1989 flown by French airline Union des Transports Aériens which blew up over the Sahara. Good possibility given the circumstances, however no debris field tends to negate this for now.

HIJACKING/COMMANDEERING

A traditional hijacking seems unlikely given that a plane’s captors typically land at an airport and have some type of demand. But a 9/11-type hijacking is possible, with terrorists forcing the plane into the ocean. In today’s climate, there are other possibilities that include hostage-taking for political motives. 

The South China Sea is a muck with terrorists and struggling nations. The Radar abnormalities could indicate some advanced operation to take an aircraft from under the nose of controllers. In addition to this, it is a possibility that the aircraft was commandeered for use as a negotiating tool or warning.

PILOT SUICIDE

There were two large jet crashes in the late 1990s — a Silk Air flight and an Egypt Air flight — that are believed to have been caused by pilots deliberately crashing the planes. Government crash investigators never formally declared the crashes suicides, but both are widely acknowledged by crash experts to have been caused by deliberate pilot actions.

ACCIDENTAL SHOOT-DOWN

There have been incidents when a country’s military unintentionally shot down civilian aircraft. In July 1988, the United States Navy missile cruiser USS Vincennes accidently shot down an Iran Air flight, killing all 290 passengers and crew. In September 1983, a Korean Air Lines flight was shot down by a Russian fighter jet. Note: Vietnam had just taken delivery of an advanced Russian Black Hole Submarine with Ground to Air missile capability. Normal procedures for the acquisition of such a vessel include a series of training and certification runs.

The zone where Flight 370 was shot down was shallow enough to allow a safety net for secret training exercises. Relatively few aircraft fly the route at the time of the loss of Flt 370. Considering that fact, it would be fruitless to trust in any investigation information coming from Vietnam officials. Again- No Debris Filed, probability of accidental shoot down, unlikely.

DELIBERATE TAKE-DOWN

This differs substantially from any of the previous possible causes. Reasons for an intentional take-down could include intimidating a particular entity to align or fall behind certain politics of a civil or governmental/semi-governmental entity. Powerful organizations exist that will not hesitate at intimidating or assassinating at will. This would include hijacking or commendering the aircraft

Passenger Manifest

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It is my opinion, that there are far too many irregularities involved in this incident for it to be a simple aviation accident. Absent a debris field, the most likely scenario, in my opinion, is a commandeering. Toward what end remains to be seen. 

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29 Comments for “UPDATE 2: Malaysia Air Flight 370 Facts of the Flight and 10 Possible Scenarios”

  1. Interesting point from http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/#comments
    “…The pilot was, or claimed to be a fanatical supporter of Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim. He even attended Anwar’s trial just before flying. Anwar was being tried for sodomy. Anwar Ibrahim was an opponent of Mahathir Mohammad, and the latter was quoted as saying “He [Anwar] would make a good Prime Minister of Israel.” It is unclear whether this factoid is related to the case or is a diversion…”
    “…four days after the disappearance of MH370, a curious military exercise took place on the Southern-Eastern part of the United States coastline. Fighter jets were reportedly “escorting” a plane…”

    • Everything is far too after the fact. They didn’t lose the plane, that’s disinfo. One here says it was shot down, impossible without a debris field….unless of course it was technology unknown to the general public…Another say’s it’s on the ground somewhere….ah, but by whom and what to tell the families…..No…the first accounts are most accurate…it’s gone and to prove this just look to how many times this story has changed..They are concocting the narrative….will probably be found in a location of water very very deep as a better means of controlling this outcome..Thinking the task of finding a 777 in this day and age, is difficult, truly is impossible to imagine let alone believe.

      Raptor

  2. Chip, how many other aircraft were near to the vicinity when the plane was lost? What is the possibility of other pilots seeing a fireball? Is it possible that the plane is indeed in the shallow waters of the China sea?

    Why does msm keep changing their story? Who doesn’t want this found out? Who doesn’t want the plane to be found and it discovered that is was indeed shot down?

    After reading too many to count articles/opinions/un-named source BS. I’VE CONCLUDED THAT IT WAS SHOT DOWN….Not on land somewhere……what to do with all the passengers and to keep the families in criminal suspense….red herring pure disinfo… They concocted a bs story to send search parties away from the actual last know location….. This is too sad to imagine being real… Hopefully I’m wrong as are all the others who think the same thing..

    Raptor

  3. More info. Now they are admitting that this was indeed a deliberate act from someone most likely on board the plane, no mention of anything from a remote standpoint….Duff mentions jamming in his latest piece. Regardless any confirmed cell phone activity would indicate that the 777 is on land somewhere within a 6-8 hour flight time..

    The passengers are a big clue, especially those from Texas associated with the tech company, those who have been granted pattens on certain products assumed to be very valuable …

    The one thing I find impossible to believe is the reported fact that no one has a clue as to where it actually is, no one willing to say so anyway. A craft the size of a 777 goes dark and it’s like a big surprise to everyone near to or associated with this kind of business…..not buying it….Someone is covering for some reason..

    Raptor

  4. YAISHUA MESHICHAINU

    “ACCIDENTAL SHOOT-DOWN There have been incidents when a country’s military unintentionally shot down civilian aircraft. In July 1988, the United States Navy missile cruiser USS Vincennes accidently shot down an Iran Air flight, killing all 290 passengers and crew. In September 1983, a Korean Air Lines flight was shot down by a Russian fighter jet. Note Vietnam had just taken delivery of an advanced Russian Black Hole Submarine with Ground to Air missile capability. Normal procedures for the acquisition of such a vessel include a series of training and certification runs.”

    Why no mention of TWA 800?

  5. Now people are starting to talk about it being on the ground, that it was indeed hijacked and flown some place where it landed. Not sure any of this information is ligit. Getting weirder by the minute. Just for kicks I went back over some old notes on TWA 800, a few on Pan Am 103……this one is taking way too long to sort out…It’s starting to look like this plane didn’t crash in the sea. Looks like it ran the picket fence and the controllers all got caught watching the paint dry.

    Raptor

  6. Thanks all for being on top of this, much appreciated. Yep, this stinks all the way to Hell or Tel Aviv, whichever comes first.

  7. ****http //www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWJMCKp7fE****
    CONSPIRACY WSJ Corroborates Flight 370 Flew for Additional 4 Hours

    • Yes, unfortunately Malaysia Air opted out of reporting directly to Rolls Royce. The engines on the 777 are Rolls Royce and the pings of data may not be aircraft specific. The data could have come from any aircraft in the area with Rolls Royce Engines.There were a couple 777′s and Air Bus that have the option of using Rolls Royce engines flying in the same time period from Malaysia to Dubai, Amsterdam and various other destinations that could carry a western track. It is all guess work as the ACARS system is not giving position reports. The data being utilized is the last suspected radar contact and bearing from Malaysia in the military report.

      • Wouldn’t Rolls Royce know when the plane they were tracking took off and when it landed, therefore, distinguishing which flight they were tracking?

        btw, I’ve seen aircraft disappear in the past. I still haven’t seen any substantial wreckage from 9-11… not even one of the massive 8 engines from the 4 aircraft. Maybe i missed it.

  8. Yes, but this was mentioned in a few places. It’s very strange that so many high level employees would be traveling together only to be lost with the plane. Also the problems with the basic information as outlined above. Very bad.

  9. I do not say that the following happened with MH 370, I only want to share what French-Israeli filmmaker Pierre Rehov, respected by neocons, wrote in a novel, White Cells, with the help of a tech guy, describing a scenario how to hide aircraft. He claimed that it is possible. In the novel there was a hidden base and the aircraft used faked data to simulate their official flight data while they actually were off their official route.

    Again, I do not believe that this happened with MH 370.

  10. Families of the passengers have made several calls to their cell phones. If the SD card is not under water, it rings. These phones, “all of them” ring.

    Unconfirmed as of yet are the 20? micro workers from Texas that presumably work on masking, or making targets disappear. Like planes.

    Plane went west after turning 270 deg’s back over the Mallaca straight. Intelligently controlled and only dropped a slight amount of elevation.

    Rolls Royce chimes in saying their satellites picked up 4 more hours of data from the engines.

    Something tells me that if the passengers on flight KL007 had cell phones, this would have happened then too. After all, many calls from “dead passengers” were made to family members over several years. Kind of like Mohamid Atta? Too bad Larry McDonald didn’t make it. But, hey, that’s who they were after in the first place.

    Let’s not forget how many of Dov Zhakeims workers were on flights on 9/11 either…..

  11. Good to see we are tracking the cabal’s movements surrounding unexplained ‘happy’ accidents. I see Jim Stone has a little insight into the disappearance as well. 3/11 once again, clowns in high places.

  12. It has been observed that all of the MSM news outlets are using the same fake photos in their “terrorist” propaganda. In both pictures, the two different persons have the same exact legs and bag. Even the type of shoes and the position of the legs, bag, and feet are identical. Clearly photoshopped.
    ***http //www.4key.net/psyops-propaganda/top-fake-alternative-news-outlets-purposely-avoid-the-obvious-truth-about-malaysian-airlines-flight-370/

  13. I suppose it’s possible the plane was hijacked via remote control such as the Mossad did on 911. It didn’t seem to crash into a building to blame Muslims, I hope we get to see the actual official passengers list.

    The plane may of just had problems.

    • In the event of a disaster of some sort, the ELT (2 on board) would dispatch signals. However if the beacon sank with the aircraft, the satellites would not pick up the signal and it would have to be found via surface vessels or very low flying aircraft within a couple miles.

      • Any explanation for the – alleged – cell phones still ringing……or is this just more MSM BS?

    • Brian,

      In the event of a crash or airborne explosion, there would have been some sort of debris field. Baggage floats, many components of the aircraft float. The problem is exaggerated when you can not find the correct area to search. There are simply too many abnormalities here, beginning with the report that the aircraft had flown for ywo hours prior to being lost off radar. It had only been airborne for 38 to 40 minutes. Someone can not get the story straight, causing a lot of mistrust.

      • Perhaps you agree, sometimes people behind the scenes intentionally put out conflicting information so people don’t know what to believe and discard alternative theories, this may have happened with the Sandy Hook murders. Perhaps it has not yet happened with the Malaysia plane event but we shall see what happens during the next few weeks.

        Thanks for the information in this article.

  14. Chip, What is the probability of the ELT not activating in an accident? Also, how often do radar operators not report radar abnormalities? Doesn’t the military fly around “dark” sometimes? Thanks!

    • In the event of a disaster of some sort, the ELT (2 on board) would dispatch signals. However if the beacon sank with the aircraft, the satellites would not pick up the signal and it would have to be found via surface vessels or very low flying aircraft within a couple miles.

  15. 103 has been said to have been an accident, one that the FBI was sent out to enforce during q and a’s with those who claimed to have seen a missile…

    If they don’t find a debris field, or receive a phone call soon, the conspiracy nuts are going to have a collective stroke. It seems one local contributor has already fired a shot across the bow of press tv.

    Raptor

  16. Yes, that would fall under the several possibilities I had listed in the article. There are so many possibilities that may exist if it is an Operation or Attack against someone or some entity, that I dared not list them all. It is very possible that this was an aviation accident, but I’m not buying it. There are too many irregularities.

  17. There were more than a few computer experts aboard.

    http //www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-airlines-plane-mh370-latest-conspiracy-theory-were-freescale-semiconductor-top-employ

    • Thanks for the link, if true it’s very interesting, however some people don’t completely trust Beforeitsnews a source in the article.

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