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Ron Paul says US likely hiding MH17 truth


 

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 US ‘likely hiding truth’ on downed Malaysian Flight MH17

…from  Ron Paul         …with  Russia Today

 

[ Editor’s note:  Either Ron Paul has been reading VT a lot, or he has some good sources. He is proving to be quite valuable working out of this foundation in DC, as it is impossible to ignore there. It is a shame that more retiring Congressmen do not do this when they are unencumbered with official duties and obligations.

Not only has the US gone quiet on their early charges of “the Russians were responsible”, but the US, EU, NATO and Ukraine are stiff-arming Russia’s questions, which are the ones the world wants to have answered. It is like the West has decided to flip the bird at the whole world. Did we all become Russians by degree one night that I missed… and that means we can all be treated as “potential enemies”… Jim W. Dean ]

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Ron Paul on the attack...asking the questions the others should be

Ron Paul on the attack…asking the questions the others should be

Former Congressman Ron Paul said the US knows ‘more than it is telling’ about the Malaysian aircraft that crashed in eastern Ukraine last month, killing 298 people on board and seriously damaging US-Russian relations in the process.

In an effort to inject some balance of opinion, not to mention pure sanity, into the ongoing debate over what happened to Malaysian Flight MH17, Ron Paul is convinced the US government is withholding information on the catastrophe.

“The US government has grown strangely quiet on the accusation that it was Russia or her allies that brought down the Malaysian airliner with a Buk anti-aircraft missile,” Paul said on his news website on Thursday.

Paul’s comments are in sharp contrast to the echo chamber of one-sided opinion inside Western mainstream media, which has almost unanimously blamed anti-Kiev militia for bringing down the commercial airline. Incredibly, in many cases Washington had nothing to show as evidence to incriminate Russian rebels aside for references to social media.

We’ve seen that there were heavy weapons moved from Russia to Ukraine, that they have moved into the hands of separatist leaders,” said White House spokesman Josh Earnest. “And according to social media reports, those weapons include the SA-11 [Buk missile] system.”

In another instance, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told reporters “the Russians intend to deliver heavier and more powerful rocket launchers to the separatist forces in Ukraine, and have evidence that Russia is firing artillery from within Russia to attack Ukrainian military positions.”

When veteran AP reporter Matthew Lee asked for proof, he was to be disappointed. “I can’t get into the sources and methods behind it,” Harf responded. “I can’t tell you what the information is based on.”

Lee said the allegations made by the State Department on Ukraine have fallen far short of “definitive proof.”
Just days after US intelligence officials admitted they had no conclusive evidence to prove Russia was behind the downing of the airliner, Kiev published satellite images as ‘proof’ it didn’t deploy anti-aircraft batteries around the MH17 crash site. However, these images have altered time-stamps and are from the days after the MH17 tragedy, the Russian Defense Ministry revealed, fully discrediting the Ukrainian claims.

In yet another yet-to-be explained event, Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet approaching the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. No acceptable explanation has ever been given by Kiev as to why this fighter aircraft was so close to the doomed passenger jet moments before it was brought down.

“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” Russian Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov demanded days after the crash.

Paul has slammed the United States, despite its arsenal of surveillance technologies at its disposal, for its failure to provide a single grain of evidence to solve the mystery of the Malaysian airliner.

“It’s hard to believe that the US, with all of its spy satellites available for monitoring everything in Ukraine, that precise proof of who did what and when is not available,” the two-time presidential candidate said. “Too bad we can’t count on our government to just tell us the truth and show us the evidence,” Paul added. “I’m convinced that it knows a lot more than it’s telling us.”

Although no sufficient evidence has been presented to prove that the anti-Kiev militia was responsible for the downing of the international flight, such an inconvenient oversight has not stopped the United States and Europe from slapping economic sanctions and travel bans against Russia.

Moscow hit back, saying it would place a ban on agricultural imports from the United States and the European Union. Russia’s tit-for-tat ban will certainly be felt, as food and agricultural imports from the US amounted to $1.3 billion last year, according to the US Department of Agriculture. In 2013, meanwhile, the EU’s agricultural exports to Russia totaled 11.8 billion euros ($15.8 billion).

After the crash, Ron Paul was one of a few voices calling for calm as US officials were pointing fingers without a shred of evidence to support their claims. Paul has not been afraid to say the painfully obvious things the US media, for any number of reasons, cannot find the courage to articulate.

“They will not report that the crisis in Ukraine started late last year, when EU and US-supported protesters plotted the overthrow of the elected Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych,” Paul said. “Without US-sponsored ‘regime change,’ it is unlikely that hundreds would have been killed in the unrest that followed. Nor would the Malaysian Airlines crash have happened.”

Paul also found it outrageous that Western media, parroting the government line, has reported that the Malaysian flight must have been downed by “Russian-backed separatists,” because the BUK missile that reportedly brought down the aircraft was Russian made.

“They will not report that the Ukrainian government also uses the exact same Russian-made weapons,” he emphasized.

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28 Responses to "Ron Paul says US likely hiding MH17 truth"

  1. Friar Newborg  August 13, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Yet another story – this from Simon Parkes

    MH-17 was redirected away from KL towards a Russian city.MH-17 was redirected away from KL to a Russian city.
    It was shot down to prevent a “dirty bomb” situation in that Russian City.
    There was a bomb onboard, and the idea was to detonate that, and spread the contents
    far and wide. That’s why it was not taken out with a missile.
    It was taken out with fire to ensure the plane would crash and go down, and the
    material would be maintained within a smaller area.

    ( Source about 50+ minutes in )
    https //www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4WQty5e7Cc

    Parkes confirms what Preston James has said
    Putin and Russia are now working with a different group of ET’s, no longer with Reptilians.
    The new group are said to be “more human.”
    The US is (apparently) working with Reptilians (or maybe Raptors).
    And the Chinese are working with a new group, “not part of the club.”
    The Reptilians and Mantids both want to advance, to higher dimensions, along with humans.
    Humans are still mostly “service to self”, but are trying to move beyond that.
    The Mantids are ready too. But the Reptilians do not want to give up what power they have,
    though they mostly know they will have to change if they want to advance.

    In dealings between America and Britain, in relation to ET’s, America has the final say.

    This started with Operation Paperclip. But the Americans are careful to consult the British.

    American hegemony is now being challenged.

  2. Chandler  August 11, 2014 at 10:10 am

    To Stephen and OrdinarySerf below on August 11th; Laughter over this kind of news since it is not be appropriate but, I must say I got a huge chuckle and immense laughter over the comment of Stephen as well as the follow-up of OrdinarySerf. Looking at them both, I have a gut instinct that Stephen put it exactly as many Americans feel but hesitate to type it here. The follow-up is the identical and immediate reaction I had but could not have penned it so eloquently as was done. Only on VT. Now stop and think…Huckleberry Clinton could very well become our next president if we do not awaken and take heed to her betrayal of American dignity and purpose. After Bush/Clinton/Bush/Oblunder, haven’t we had enough traitorous activity in OUR White House?
    Both of these writers should get some sort of award. Both left brilliant comments!

    • Stephen  August 12, 2014 at 8:47 pm

      ~ ”Why THANK YOU, but I AM only telling it like it is, or should I say how it is going to be one day soon, hopefully much sooner then way later, however I can NEVER agree with arresting PARASITES, like these things, why should WE THE PEOPLE waste the Court systems’ time, or better yet U.S. Tax-payers’ Funds, running them through the INJUSTICE JUSTICE SYSTEM, that more then likely WILL FIND FAVOR, with these CAREER CRIMINALS, 6 feet under is where they ALL BELONG, soon than later would be all the better, for ALL OF US” ~

    • Stephen  August 12, 2014 at 10:48 pm

      ~ ”Let ME also add this, this PC Speak is utter bullshit, what needs 2 be said MUST BE SAID, WE can rest assure that, whenever TPTB are holding their talks, in their INNER SANCTUMS, they aren’t always speaking with SUNSHINE & LOLLIPOPS, in regards to thinning out the herds, as WE can see how some of their DIABOLICAL NEW LAWS / POLICIES, are HELLBENT, & AIMED directly at WE THE PEOPLE, even the REPTILIAN MOB BOSS, daddy bush said that, he wished that the Electorate was more informed regarding the political process, now maybe he was just speaking out of the R side of its’ mouth, I remember growing up 2 things were TABOO, DO NOT SPEAK ABOUT RELIGION OR POLITICS, & by not doing so, has brought America / its’ people, to where WE as a Nation / People are now” ~

  3. Ivan Ivanov  August 11, 2014 at 7:26 am

    Can’t be sure this is genuine but they claim it is from the hacked account of Kolomoysky’s assistant
    http //colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1723665.html

    there’s a link to the translated message exchange
    http //en.voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2793-kolomoyskiy-assistants-facebook-account-hacked-the-boeing-downed-by-junta.html

  4. Bente  August 11, 2014 at 3:24 am

    We need to send letter to Dutch PM Rutte why he is being silent? Why he is not telling us what he knows. Does 193 dead Dutch people mean nothing to him as Dutch PM… We need to push him to talk… same with Malaysia… why are these people not talking? Why are they not asking USA publicly to release their data which THEY HAVE…. next if they don’t do this WE have to ask them what did USA say or do to keep them from not talking. We can send letters to them, and send letter to the press, and get courageous people to speak out etc etc…

  5. James Robertson  August 10, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    http //crimesofempire.wordpress.com/2014/08/08/mh17the-life-and-death-of-a-psyop

  6. captain obvious  August 10, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    not a fan of ron, he could have stopped this machine years ago telling us multiple felon hillary is ineligible for office and appointing her secretary of state was-is criminally impeachable. his campaigns red listed his voters who he burned saying 911 an inside job was preposterous. VT has shown it nuked, so what now ron?

    • Charlotte NC Bill  August 10, 2014 at 7:26 pm

      Mr. Paul was oh so gracious as the neo-con/illuminati wing of the Republican party stole primary after primary from him…( as they did to Patrick J. Buchanan-perhaps to a lesser extent though they did recruit worthless ringers like Keyes and Gary Bauer to run against him )…Former Rep. Paul is doing what he does best go as far towards the truth as “polite society ” ( which is more satanic than polite ) will allow.

    • captain obvious  August 11, 2014 at 4:07 am

      which kinda proves the point “going along to get along” or “just following orders”. he didnt stand up to tell us anything about how they rigged the voting was yet another slam to all his supporters while allowing the criminal TPTB to continue with their treasonous “business as usual”. theres reason I refer to him as Judas Goat Ron, 30 years in District of Criminals and not ONE arrest says a lot too.

    • Klaatu Aquinus  August 11, 2014 at 10:38 am

      Let’s not be too hard on Dr. Paul here. I was pretty hard on him myself when I wrote my own op-ed on him back in ’07. I was also a bit hard on Reagan, not having any knowledge of Amb. Wanta at the time

      http //deltasix9r.blogspot.com/2007/11/on-ron-paul.html

      Mike Harris, Gordon Duff, and Jeff Rense discussed Ron Paul on Mike’s inaugural show (11/1/12, 2nd hour) on the Rense Network (The Short End of the Stick). Those archives are just not available any longer. However, I made my own archives of the best shows, especially including the inaugural one.

      This is a partial transcript, with Gordon mostly talking here

      “Romney lost the GOP nomination to Ron Paul.” “Ron Paul has friends in the intelligence community that has the power to put anyone in the ground…. at a moments notice.”He [Ron Paul” would have swept this election.” Gordon goes on to say he was approached by Ron Paul people to be Dr. Paul’s Chief of Staff. Gordon quips that Ron Paul decided not to further pursue the GOP nomination, and further the election process, because he was disappointed in the American people, and felt they did not deserve his candidacy at that time. “He [Ron Paul] could not trust the American people.” I have the recording. You can query Gordon and Mike yourself.

      Perhaps it is high time for VT to recruit Dr. Ron Paul for their advisory staff. Perhaps, via this Rand Paul can be taken to the woodshed.

    • DaveE  August 10, 2014 at 10:49 pm

      I would pay every penny I have for a position on Hillary’s firing quad.

    • DaveE  August 10, 2014 at 10:50 pm

      meant “squad”.

    • Stephen  August 11, 2014 at 1:40 am

      ~ ”Hillary Clinton’s punish will be as follows, along with a bunch of other scumbag, c@ck-sucking c@nts, who allowed the DEMON SEMEN, that they drank WILLINGLY to decimate their dignity” ~

      ~ ”They will have double barrel sawed-off shotguns, inserted into their 3 orifices, with the triggers pulled simultaneously, this will be their JUST REWARDS, for their life of INJUSTICES” ~

      ~ ”THUS SAYS THE LORD” ~

    • captain obvious  August 11, 2014 at 3:56 am

      man, I’m much more a fan of DARTS..
      100 bucks a throw, 200 darts per day is 20,000 bucks daily, 7.3 million annually per traitor.
      500 traitors 3.65 billion, could go a long way helping this economy they deliberately sabotaged, especially so when combined with all their ill gotten assets being stripped beforehand, and the endless PPV profits that a show like this could rake in.. what “national deficit”?

    • OrdinarySerf  August 11, 2014 at 4:29 am

      Well it wasn’t exactly Keats or Shelley, but you certainly got your point across there Stephen !

    • Stephen  August 11, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      ~ ”Monetary issues, will not be a PROBLEM, when ALL OF THEIR ENTIRE FAMILY TREE FAMILY ASSETS, are SEIZED, & these DEMONIC OFFSPRING, are put out 2 PASTURE, so there is no sense, in having any kind of a circus freak show, with any of these worthless scumbags” ~

    • Stephen  August 11, 2014 at 9:20 pm

      ~ ”CRISP, CLEAR, & PRECISE, RIGHT 2 THE POINT, NO MINCING WORDS WITH ME” ~

    • ani  August 12, 2014 at 2:49 am

      Congratulations for getting away with saying what clearly so many would have said, had they thought they could!

    • Stephen  August 12, 2014 at 8:36 pm

      ~ ”Just speaking TRUTH TO POWER + I do not FEAR these CRETANS” ~

  7. Malik  August 10, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    The information the US relies on, is from Israel. It’s all lies. The moron, idiots fools, that run US gov. say and do what ever Israel tells them to do. Most of the politicians are either paid to be complicit, blackmailed or just complete buffoons.

  8. Simpleton  August 10, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    Compare with al-Ghouta false flag. 1) fake 8200 type ludicrous audio 2) fake BUK video 3) mass initial zio MSM assets deployed 4) satellite “evidence” now gone AWOL 5)impunity over children deaths. The Russians were first on the site, they have the videos and bits of canon/missile etc, they are playing the jew (poro is in the hole, yats has kept away) false flag devils at their own game – let nudelman dig a deeper hole, by even forging black box evidence, then Putin will show his Ace card. And take over Eastern Ukraine as a pay back.

  9. I Clower  August 10, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Malysia, according to the article linked below, is now saying that MH17 was shot down by the USG and their neo-nazi Kiev henchmen.

    http //4bitnews.com/world-at-war/malaysia-accuses-us-eu-backed-ukraine-regime-mh17-shoot/
    (add a colon after http)

    Malaysia had the black boxes from MH17 in their possession for a while, and probably made copies. It doesn’t seem likely the Malaysians would risk pointing a finger at the USG unless they had some pretty damning evidence.

    • Charlotte NC Bill  August 10, 2014 at 7:28 pm

      Malaysia is proving to be a country to be proud of, unlike ours ( as currently constituted )..Matthias Chang is a first-class guy….

    • JohninMK  August 11, 2014 at 10:51 am

      Unlike the Russians, the Malaysians did not have the BB for very long before they passed them to the Dutch. They possibly don’t have the skills to copy them either, again unlike the Russians who also have the ability to decode as well.

  10. joe chuy-medina  August 10, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    Jim, as sarcastic as your comments appear to be, I can certainly understand. I saw a picture of the Bidens father and son today, grinning, big smiles at their good fortune of having been born white and in the US of A, a country that rewards the ones who obey the rules and pass all the filters.
    The problem with humans in the ego, the emotions that always rule until it is too late. In Mexico, they had a saying, “emotions are always traitors.” Even when your love deeply, it generally breaks your heart.
    In this entire mess, I have listened to Putin and his foreign minister, Lavrov, and they along with other Russians whom I don’t know, are the only ones talking with rational thought processes. Almost everything we hear from the US side is emotional, starting with McCain and Hillary.
    Idiots? I am not so sure. Emotional, definitely.

    joe

  11. ani  August 10, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    good comment joe.

    I like to think of emotion as
    e-motion
    energy in motion

    Just as some other fine people at VT have commented

    there is wisdom in standing back from our own emotions
    while we reflect on how best to ‘utilise’ them on our way onward
    and upward.

  12. JohninMK  August 11, 2014 at 10:58 am

    Spot on there Jim. The general public had a reasonable idea what was going on back then due to the wide range of reporting. Even outlets like the BBC were open and fair about what they were reporting. Also back then a larger proportion of the West/Russia population had been through wars, an experience they did not want to repeat.

    Contrast with now, only one side’s view in any MSM outlet, Government controlled or not. The general belief that wars had been won by the West since 1945 and are pretty remote controlled affairs that don’t impact at home. Along with a US government that stupidly thinks its military is invincible.

    This is sleepwalking to disaster.

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