NEO – What America is really threatening in Ukraine

Is war inevitable in Crimea?

Is war inevitable in Crimea?

What America is really threatening in Ukraine

… by  Henry Kamens,     … with  New Eastern Outlook, Moscow

 

Kiev has used short range ballistic missile to attack civilian areas with no protest from Western governments

Kiev has used short range ballistic missile to attack civilian areas with no protest from Western governments

[ Editor’s note:   Henry gives us one hell of an overview of the present Ukraine mess, which I have compared to the Tar Baby in the briar patch from the Uncle Remus story.

But messes are only a problem if those who made them are held responsible. The system is rigged now so they are not.

And that is really one of the major national security risks that we face, unaccountable government. And by that I do not mean just Obama, because there is a huge support group behind this Ukraine craziness, including the whole Bush (43) crowd… strange bedfellows indeed.

Obama has done a great job cutting through the Iranian nuclear Gordian knot. And he has pushed back more, with what limited power he has to do so, on the Israelis than any president in ages. But he is literally in bed with the NeoCons on the Ukraine Tar Baby and Syria, both mega disasters which are spawning more, just like we said they would.

I am working on a new piece on how the EU sanctions against Russia are blowing up in their faces, and the business and political push-back is way ahead of what it is here in the US. As Gordon so loves to say… this is not the Vietnam generation or things would be a lot different. We really have no one, like we used to have, to do the street business that is needed to stop craziness, and that has made a huge difference.

" A trip down memory road"

” A trip down memory road”

They did not have the internet back then. Going to protests was the only game in town for taking on power.

It makes me wonder if that protest power would have been diffused, if a lot of the protesting had been done on keyboards.

Gordon once told me that the Univ. of Michigan had 7000 enrolled veterans when he was there. When word went out for a protest rally… all 7000 were there.

That folks, is street power. Will we ever see anything like that again on campus? I don’t think so. We don’t have the big numbers of angry, abused and misused veterans on the campuses anymore. We must use the tools we have, to try to get protests going on Ukraine. 

To the big Israeli push-back we see building now, we should add in Syria and Ukraine, and ram that all to where the “sun don’t shine” to get their attention.

We might as well do all three at once and use that to pull big crowds together. They won’t come three times. We only have one shot with them, and it is election season. If the people want to take some power back, now is the time… Jim W. Dean ]

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–  First published  …  August 17, 2014  –

 

Ukraine army

Ukraine army

The US has warned Moscow to be “very careful” in its judgments after Vladimir Putin put the armed forces in western Russia on alert in response to mounting tension in Ukraine. This comment is obviously a threat, but of what?

The US is supporting what it hypocritically calls an “anti-terror” operation in the East of Ukraine, despite the fact it inserted snipers to fire indiscriminately on crowds in Maidan Square to achieve its objectives there.

In order to keep this going, NATO assets and US funding is already being overstretched in Syria, the US and the “chocolate soldiers” of the newly-installed Ukrainian government are practically picking kids off the streets of the West of the country, giving them a month’s training and then sending them to the front line as cannon fodder.

So what greater action is being threatened now?

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Vietnam Generation

Gordon Duff is still tall...but not so skinny, like the rest of us!

Gordon Duff is still tall…but not so skinny, like the rest of us!

Whenever the US gets involved in a war, someone raises the spectre of Vietnam. Most US politicians of today come from a generation that fought in or protested against the Vietnam War.

Young men, mostly conscripts, were sent to serve their country in a faraway place by fighting for a cause few of them understood or believed in, at great human, moral and financial cost. Those troops went home to public vilification, some as basket cases.

This historic sore explains a number of recent US actions. Having won the Gulf War the US did not topple Saddam, though it is happy to remove other rulers, because it has bitter memories of spending countless millions propping up rulers it installed to pursue its interests, such as Thieu in South Vietnam and Marcos in the Philippines.

Similarly, the US rarely acts alone now, ensuring that its interventions are all NATO operations involving multiple partners. Though these actions further US policy, it does not want to carry the can if the public turns against that policy, and therefore seeks to spread the responsibility so wide it diffuses it altogether.

All this is having an effect on Ukraine. Despite the attempts to ramp up the conflict there as “freedom fighters” versus “oppressors”, as most Americans don’t know much about the place; they couldn’t care less. Whether they support sending in troops comes down to their attitude towards their own government, rather than any appreciation of the issues in the country itself.

So the US is not necessarily threatening direct military action, as the cost/benefit analysis doesn’t look good. What it is threatening is the political equivalent of “slash and burn”. It is trying to make sure that if Russia divides Ukraine, this will be a Pyrrhic victory, as the rump remaining will be such a revolting and belligerent neighbor, it will be far worse for Russia than would have been a Yanukovich government that joined the EU.

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Fair-weather Friends

Protestor holding anti-swastika sign outside a regional government builing

Protester holding anti-swastika sign outside a regional government building

The links between the new Ukrainian government and neo-Nazi groups are well documented. It is no accident that no one has been called to account for daubing swastikas on Jewish people’s walls in the wake of the enforced removal of Yanukovich.

These neo-Nazis were not initially involved in the “popular protests” which toppled that regime, largely because most Ukrainians did not take them seriously, but were inserted later on to provide the necessary muscle and ideological commitment to throw the elected President out for a second time.

But is this muscle working? In one way yes, in one way no, and the no is an important one. Sergei Glazyev, Advisor to the Russian President, has highlighted the activities of the neo-Nazis in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, where they are acting under the orders of Kiev.

“Schools and infrastructure have been destroyed and the people of the region can expect serfdom, as can be inferred not only by the official mouthpieces, ideologists such as Liaskho but Poroshenko himself, whose position is not significantly different,” he said.

He continued by describing the merciless exploitation of the local population, who are being forced to leave unless they are tied to work in the factories and mines. The heavy shelling hardly encourages anyone to stay, of course. But he then added a telling detail: many refugees from Ukraine are migrating to Russia.

"Crossing over"

“Crossing over”

Maria Zakharova, deputy head of the Russian Foreign Ministry’s press department, has said that at least 400 soldiers, both conscripts and professionals, have so far crossed into Russia to seek asylum.

These deserters stated that they do not want to participate in war crimes in their own country by targeting ethnic Russians living in Eastern Ukraine, their own countrymen, not the terrorists Kiev and the Western media told them they were fighting.

People fighting for “freedom” against “oppression” may not be competent or well-motivated but they do not contemplate deserting to the enemy.

These desertions, and 400 is not an insignificant number, are a serious threat to the success of the US operation, as the more people see their comrades changing sides the more they will starting thinking the same way themselves.

It will be much more difficult to justify war by saying it is about “freedom” when your own soldiers, recruited on this basis, are freely joining the “oppressors” in significant numbers.

So the US government is giving Russia an ultimatum. If it lets the US pursue its plans, all the crimes of the Nazis will stop and a democratic Ukraine, which respects human rights and which Russia can do business with, will result.

If not, the US will simply leave the neo-Nazis to continue pursuing such tactics in Donbas, and everywhere else, for evermore. Paradoxically, it is asking Russia to decide what sort of government it wants to see in Ukraine, after starting the war to prevent Russia interfering in Ukraine’s affairs.

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Adapt or Die

A makeshift memorial

A makeshift memorial

One of the reasons for the desertions is that the Ukrainian population, quite rightly tired of war and being manipulated by powers who do not listen to their concerns, are not enthusiastic about the new government’s policy of mobilising the entire population against Russia.

However, consider the dynamics: in December 2013 there were 2,000 members of neo-Nazi groups active in Kiev. By February there were 20,000.

By May the number of neo-Nazis and new army conscripts, brought in to support their actions, had reached 50,000. By next month there will be 200,000 Nazi-led regular and irregular troops conducting combat operations, as there are plans to call up all people of military age.

If the Ukrainian Army were conducting these military actions in defence of their country this would be justified. But that is not what is happening on the ground. Apparently fearful of the army’s loyalty, the neo-Nazi groups were brought in over its head, first by the US and then the new Ukrainian government, to act as the advanced guard.

They are the ones conducting operations, and the new troops are supporting their actions, not treating them as illegal irregulars as their army service oaths require them to do.

Yatseniuk, reportedly Jewish, saluted his people

Yatseniuk, reportedly Jewish, saluted his supporters  – a Neo-Nazi contradiction in terms – or is it

Ukraine has a large army, but a largely inactive one. Most of it is not actually being used in the conflict: only these armed Nazis, and the new green recruits supporting them, are being used to defend the country against a foreign power.

Kharkov’s industries are working at full capacity restoring tanks and armor, and bringing tanks out of storage, resurrecting and modernising them is not difficult. Likewise aviation is being brought out of storage in Odessa. But it is not being put at the service of the Ukrainian army but irregular neo-Nazi groups, who ordinarily would have no claim on state equipment.

As the neo-Nazis are leading the process, they are not going to take orders from the Ukrainian government or even the US which put them in this position. They will pursue their own ideological conflict on their own volition.

Ukraine is helping them because it suits Ukraine’s purposes, for now. But does anyone seriously think that if Poroshenko ordered them to withdraw, or stop committing atrocities, they would take any notice.

The US is trying to blame all this on Russia. The neo-Nazis were inserted to counter Russian ambitions in Ukraine, as the US portrayed them. They are still being supported, in spite of the desertions, to show Russia that unless it backs down it will inflict them on Ukraine forever, no matter what.

This is a genuine threat to Russia too, as it is dealing with its own terrorist threats in Chechnya, Daghestan and other parts of its vast territory and does not want another player to join a network of interconnected anti-Russian terror groups, with the resources of a national army at its disposal.

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Springtime for Poroshenko

Neo Nazi march in Ukraine, 2014

Neo Nazi march in Ukraine, 2014

War of some sort over Crimea is now inevitable, as Ukraine is not going to give it up. US State department envoy Victoria Nuland has said so in as many words. She stated in Odessa that the US expect their Ukrainian agents, the neo-Nazi groups they armed and gave credibility to, to go to war against Russia for Crimea.

But as the US also installed the Ukrainian government, and can therefore control the Ukrainian army, one would think it would not be necessary to use these groups to achieve any military objective.

If the war over Crimea is conducted by neo-Nazis and conscripts brought in to support them, rather than the Ukrainian army, this gives everyone a get-out. If Ukraine loses it can absolve itself of these people and enter into negotiations, whilst not giving up its claims to Crimea. If it wins, the country will rejoice in its reunification and assertion of independence, and how it got to that point will be forgotten.

Poroshenko is doubtless aware that Margaret Thatcher, the iconic political figure of the 1980s, was a failing British Prime Minister, whose policies were not believed to be working, until the Falklands conflict with Argentina in 1982 made it seem that her “tough girl” approach was right and therefore every “tough” policy she espoused was also right.

He is also aware that he did not actually win the election which put him in power: experts have computed that not more than 40% actually voted for him. So if Poroshenko can get his proxies to bolster his own position, fine. If it doesn’t work, he will not have to take the blame, and reemerge as the face of democracy and reason.

It is widely proffered in the controlled Western press that Russia is mostly to blame for the Ukraine conflict. The US has won that PR battle, at least for now. It is now trying to threaten that Ukraine will be run by neo-Nazis in perpetuity, and it will be Russia’s fault, if Russia does not toe the line. This is a threat Russia has to take seriously, not wanting more Moscow Underground bombings. Whether Ukrainians and Europeans themselves will allow such a situation to exist, remains to be seen.

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Henry Kamens, columnist, expert on Central Asia and Caucasus, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”

Editing:  Jim W. Dean  and  Erica P. Wissinger

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33 Responses to "NEO – What America is really threatening in Ukraine"

  1. pgg804  August 24, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    The Jews control almost all the western mainstream media and they have accomplished this with unparalleled ethnic unity, the same way they have accomplished so much throughout their history. While most Europeans (including Americans) are open to having other ethnic groups in their midst and part of their society (the most open people in the world), wherever Jews go they keep their separateness (how do you think they survived as a separate group without a country of their own for two thousand years) and they work toward empowering each other while discriminating against anyone else. They are openly hostile towards Christianity.

    • pgg804  August 24, 2014 at 12:33 pm

      This is how a tiny group that makes up 2 % of the American population has taken over Harvard and all the top schools in the US. This school that was founded by white Christians now has more Jews as the student population than Christians. The same goes down the line with every important institution in the country; every one. Since 1970 every Chairman of the Fed has been Jewish, except for one under Carter who served for 1 1/2 years. All of this has been kept out of the mainstream media because they own virtually all of it. This was done thru ethnic cooperation also, dirtying the reputations of any Christians that wanted to exercise power and buy or expand media ownership Ted Turner in the past and now the Koch brothers.

      They did the same thing in Germany (the most advanced society in the world) before Germans revolted at this and other things

    • moneytalks  August 24, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      “” This is how a tiny group that makes up 2 % of the American population has taken over Harvard and all the top schools in the US. This school that was founded by white Christians now has more Jews as the student population than Christians. The same goes down the line with every important institution in the country; every one.””

      That is proof that maintaining a high degree of ethnic integrity ( ie. much racial and cultural homogeneity ; and jews do that ) is a major factor in sustaining and accumulating political power and wealth .

    • Jeffrey K. Silverman  August 25, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      I am sure it is less than two percent, all depends on how you want to define a Jew. By the way the author of the article that you are posting under went to one of those schools that was founded by Christians, Berea College, Berea Kentucky, as he had brains enough to get a scholarship. Most Jews are part of the society where they live. They are not part of any “great conspiracy” as you insist they are. Just remember the Romans called Jesus the “King of the Jews”. So what is the point of your two postings, and what does that have to do with “What is America really threatening in Ukraine.” It would be nice if you would focus your ranting on the article itself and not play toss the Red Herring. Jews are not openly hostile towards Christianity. If you would know your own religion and a bit about the Jewish religion and cultural values then you would know that. There are some Jews like other religions and cults that are fanatics, and that is unfortunate. It appears from what you wrote you might fall into such a group.

  2. Keyser Soze  August 22, 2014 at 5:16 am

    It appears that the aid convoy is moving into Ukraine whether Kiev likes it or not.
    These fools are silly enough to hit the convoy.
    This will get interesting.
    Anything thing could happen here.
    If they do all hell could break loose.

  3. John Kirby  August 20, 2014 at 11:59 pm

    Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, kolomoysky, all zionist Jews, taking over the Ukraine after a coup, encouraged by Victoria Nuland, the US Deputy Secretary of State, also a Zioinist Jew.

    I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE REPORT OF THIS IN THE WESTERN MEDIA.

    If it were not for the internet we would never know

    • John Kirby  August 21, 2014 at 12:08 am

      I think things are coming to a head. Somebody in the mainstream media will pluck up the courage to call out the Jewish Lobby, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • John Kirby  August 21, 2014 at 2:02 am

      I grew up in an area with a lot of Ukranian WW2 refugees. They were nor fleeing from the Natzis but from the Russians, who starved them by taking all the crops, even next year’s seed corn. They all said the same thing, that Jews controlled this disaster. Later in life when I got to know older Russians they would tell you that Jews gained control of Russia by murdering anybody who could possibly pose a remote threat to their power.. Any well educated person was vulnerable. even pharmacists were executed, the entire officer corps of the army was executed. The Cheka (later the KGB) was 90% Jewish. It seems to me the Ukranian/Russian hatred of Jews is a natural response.

      SO HOW COME THERE IS NOW A JEWISH/ZIONIST GOVERNMENT IN THE UKRAINE?

    • moneytalks  August 21, 2014 at 8:39 pm

      Those facts that you ( Kirby ) give are significant . However , the globalist jew rulers control the major portion of mass media which in turn determines what the masses are especially conscious of ; and by withholding information what the masses are not especially conscious of .

  4. Simpleton  August 20, 2014 at 9:40 am

    Its NOT America stupid ! Its the jews who want Putin out of the way, satanyahu,nuland,pyatt ,etc want the EU/US to do a Herod and kill this latter day Christ. Remember that israeli missile headed towards Syria that the Russians shot down in the middle of the Syrian false flag attempt? Yes, this is something similar, they desperately want to ignite a war, the shooting of MH17 is part of the plot. God help us from the moneylenders.

  5. pgg804  August 19, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    Deliberate starvation; deliberate murder oversaw by the Jews. That moronic response by “Simpson’s Donkey” is the same Anglo-Jew propaganda that there is mountains of evidence exposing is as a lie.

    Even Vladimir Putin said the first Soviet gov’t was overwhelmingly Jewish. But Jews and ignoramuses like “Simpson” did their best to cover it up. The Holodomor is now accepted by the United Nations as genocide. The real genocide as opposed to the phony holocaust peddled by Jews to steal land from Palestine and hundreds of billions of dollars from Germany and other countries.

    Putin – 80 – 85% of the first Soviet Govt was Jewish

    https //www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bSAB5OPkwQ

    Dr.Goebbels revealing Jewish atrocities against Russians and Ukrainians to the world

    https //www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vKOBWz0_4Y

    • pgg804  August 19, 2014 at 2:11 pm

      I agree that Russia is the victim here. Ukrainians too. The USA is interested in two things. Expanding it’s influence and military into Ukraine, and since the USA is under Jewish domination it wants to make the Ukraine like the rest of western Europe . Pass holocaust denial laws and outlaw the Holodomor as an anti-Semitic hate crime. Then the Jews will have total and complete control over Ukraine too. They’re almost there already with the incredible fact that after Jews killed so many millions when they created the Soviet Union, they now control Ukraine again.

  6. pgg804  August 18, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    You wrote “The links between the new Ukrainian government and neo-Nazi groups are well documented. It is no accident that no one has been called to account for daubing swastikas on Jewish people’s walls in the wake of the enforced removal of Yanukovich.”

    Do you really think that makes sense when both their new president and prime minister are Jewish? A Jewish newspaper reports on Poroshenko’s Jewish roots in the link below and a mainstream British newspaper reported on Ukraine’s prime minister’s Jewish roots. Please respond to this post. I want to hear your explanation for this. If you want, I can find the article on Prime Minister too.

    Ukraine Presidential Frontrunner Petro Poroshenko and His Secret Jewish Roots”

    http //forward.com/articles/198758/ukraine-presidential-frontrunner-petro-poroshenko/?p=all

    • pgg804  August 18, 2014 at 6:11 pm

      The article below is how the Ukrainian gov’t, under Yanukovich charged Jews with carrying out the Holodomor that killed millions of Ukrainians. Ukrainians welcomed German troops as the heroes for saving their lives in 1941. Why shouldn’t they wave the NAZI flag and why shouldn’t they be anti-Semitic?

      http //www.jta.org/2009/06/15/news-opinion/world/jewish-group-objects-to-great-famine-case

      I would really like a response to these comments Mr. Dean. These are Jewish newspapers reporting this. I assume you were unaware of this. Or do you just ignore it because it conflicts with your beliefs.

      They have hidden these things well (the worlds mainstream media) so it’s

    • pgg804  August 18, 2014 at 6:14 pm

      It’s nothing to be ashamed of being unaware of something.

    • Simpsons Donkey  August 18, 2014 at 8:16 pm

      Actually, this Holodomor slander is just another Nazi lie.
      According to research done by Annie LaCroix-Riz at the University of Paris the famine in Ukraine in 1932-33 was a result of natural weather patterns, and had nothing to do with the Soviet occupiers. Predictably (as Nazis always lie, that’s how come their top lawyer founded Americans’ neocons) the fascist racists of the Bandera clique used it to demonise Jews. Ukraine Nazis hate Jews, Russians (‘Moskals’), Hungarians, Poles, blacks and Orthodox Christians. That’s the kind of mentally-challenged attitude generated from not living in a real country.
      See here, to clear that up. http //tarpley.net/metaphysical-doubts-concerning-the-existence-of-modern-ukraine-a-1918-creation-of-the-german-general-staff/
      [mind the colon]

    • John Kirby  August 18, 2014 at 11:48 pm

      I grew up in an area with a lot of Ukranian WW2 refugees. They were nor fleeing from the Natzis but from the Russians, who starved them by taking all the crops, even next year’s seed corn. They all said the same thing, that Jews controlled this disaster. Later in life when I got to know older Russians they would tell you that Jews gained control of Russia by murdering anybody who could possibly pose a remote threat to their power.. Any well educated person was vulnerable. even pharmacists were executed, the entire officer corps of the army was executed. The Cheka (later the KGB) was 90% Jewish. It seems to me the Ukranian/Russian hatred of Jews is a natural response.

    • Connie  August 19, 2014 at 11:11 pm

      Yats is anointed by Nuland, both dual US-Israeli citizens. And Kolomoisky is a dual citizen of Ukraine and Israel. The “neo-nazis” in Ukraine are to Israel as the “Christian zionists” in the U.S. are to Israel– both being used for sake of Israel. This explains the Israeli soldiers present in Ukraine.

      “I don’t belong [to Svoboda], but I take orders from their team. They know I’m Israeli, Jewish and an ex-IDF soldier…the Kremlin is using the anti-Semitism card falsely to delegitimize the Ukrainian revolution, which is distancing Ukraine from Russia’s sphere of influence.”–from Haaretz.

      The U.S. is already under neo-bolshevism so the next target is Russia, using the U.S.-surprise, surprise. The bolsheviks want Russia back.

  7. Cold Wind  August 18, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Let’s have a wager, regarding how many minutes it will take for Kiev to disappear- literally- after the Crimea is attacked by a substantial military force. Next, we might wager on Berlin? But please hurry…by the time most of you place your bets, Paris and London will have already disappeared. It makes no sense to posit an attack on Crimea without considering the implications for full scale nuclear war.

    • Simpsons Donkey  August 18, 2014 at 8:21 pm

      May 3, 2014
      “We want neither nationalists, nor oligarchs here … My grandfather fought his way to Berlin, and I cannot betray him, betray what he was fighting for.”
      – protester at Slavyansk, Ukraine

  8. caribbeancritic  August 18, 2014 at 11:39 am

    The sooner the Russian Chinese Iranians Indians Brazilians Cubans wipe the USA off the map the better

  9. franktalk  August 18, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Moving this into a bigger picture is what we all need to understand. The so-called elite’s operational technique is a corporate operation using the Jewish mafia of Ukraine.

    https //www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkYghc_GjU

  10. Skywalker  August 18, 2014 at 6:42 am

    Long story short: chevron and shell, shale gas, vigilant warrior, US domination strategy for the new century. Nuland: you know.. fck the EU.. It is all about big $$$. Humanity is doomed.

  11. John Kirby  August 18, 2014 at 2:13 am

    Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, kolomoysky, all zionist Jews, taking over the Ukraine after a coup, encouraged by Victoria Nuland, the US Deputy Secretary of State, also a Zioinist Jew.. If we even comment on this we are called anti-semitic..

    With Gaza being subjugated by Israel and Iraq failing after a war instigated by a bunch of Neocons in the GW Bush government and now this in the Ukraine we have every right to ask what the hell is going on?

    • John Kirby  August 18, 2014 at 2:14 am

      Are we being led into WW3?

    • pgg804  August 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm

      And incredibly, it’s hidden from the world’s eyes, even Ukrainians themselves. Jews hate Ukrainians (like just about everyone else) and Ukrainians have no love for Jews after what the Jews did to them. The Ukrainian media has hidden the fact the Jewish identity of Ukraine’s new leaders.

      It was the same with the Soviet Union. Germans knew Jews had taken over Russia and they knew Jews were carrying out atrocities against Russians, but with Jews influence in other western countries they hid the fact that Jews were the leaders and murderers in the Soviet Union. Even today, most people would deny the fact that Jews were the leader of the Soviet Union. Churchill wrote an article in the 1920’s on the fact that Jews were the leaders of Bolshevik Russia, but he never mentioned it again when wealthy Jews began paying him huge sums of money in the 1930’s to attack Germany.

  12. Simpsons Donkey  August 18, 2014 at 1:41 am

    I’m afraid robert is right, and if we follow Sergey Glazyev we find that war is the only possible intention of the insane Americans.
    Blaming Russia for Kiev’s Nazi horrors won’t wash even by loopy Western standards. Note that the ultranationalist animals who strangled the cleaning lady in the Odessa atrocity were not shy. They sent their Jew gangster boss Kolomoisky a Twitter photo. This is ethnic cleansing advertising. The Russian-speakers got the message they were supposed to get — ‘leave Ukraine.’ a holocaust is planned in the East. How that can be blamed on Russia is ayone’s guess.
    Provoking Russia into war over Ukraine is Phase One. As a certain Fedorov spells it out at Voltaire Network, Phase Two is another violent Maidan in Russia, in St Petersburg in September, then Yekaterinburg and Kaliningrad, using Orange revolution dual-citizen Ukies.
    See https //www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WNAPbuwLMHg. Thierry Meyssan — first with the news.

  13. Joanna Mccain  August 18, 2014 at 1:23 am

    Alois,
    Amen!
    I remember my father and uncles talking about UPA being vicious and blood thirsty bunch, murdering anything that was “them”.
    Eastern parts of Poland was eliminated by dozen of thousands (Wolyn as an example).
    Now Polish goverment is helping those who’s ideas live and will turn against its promoters and supporters (just a matter of time).

    • Joanna Mccain  August 18, 2014 at 1:24 am

      …should have read ‘murdering anything that was NOT “them”‘

  14. robert  August 17, 2014 at 9:54 pm

    Unfortunately the article does not deliver on the title. “What America is really threatening in Ukraine”

    There is no mention of the multi-billion gas debt the Ukraine owes Russia.

    There is no mention of Russia being sidelined in the Ukraine to keep it out of events unfolding with the split up of Iraq. When Kurdistan is declared an independent nation, the oil rights will vest with Israel and be competing with Russian oil. Syria is silent for the moment but will not remain so. What about who really owns the Leventian gas fields?

    There is no mention of ISIS (which attacked Syria) is now attacking Iraq as a guise for U.S. intervention whilst Russia looks on, having been set up for world media assassination, should it intervene.

    • Jim W. Dean  August 18, 2014 at 8:48 am

      Robert, All of these article have size limitations, so there is alway material that can’t be included. This one was past the normal 1500 word limit…at 2000…so this was a cheap shot by you. I could spend the rest of my life pointing out what was not in articles. But that would only serve a purpose it there was an censorship issue of some kind, and there is not a hint of that in Henry’s work.

    • robert  August 18, 2014 at 1:57 pm

      I don’t do cheap shots. I just want as many concerned people informed as possible, as to the nuances of what may be happening that continues to cause such calamity on our planet. When informed they can do something about it. I admire V.T. for most of its fearless commentary that is not generally easily accessed from elsewhere. The posts are wonderfully informative.

      As to size limitations maybe start with the most relevant information before generalized writings and thus running out of space. Otherwise all good.

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