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Homeland Security: Preparing for Massive Civil War

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by Paul Joseph Watson and Alexander Higgins (with Jim Fetzer)



The discovery by the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs (3 October 2012) that, “Despite reviewing 13 months’ worth of reporting originating from fusion centers from April 1, 2009 to April 30, 2010, the Subcommittee investigation could identify no reporting which uncovered a terrorist threat, nor could it identify a contribution such fusion center reporting made to disrupt an active terrorist plot” means that there is no evidence of the existence of any domestic terrorist threat.  On that basis, it is rational to infer (with high probability) that there is no domestic terrorist threat.

We also know that there are 300 or more FEMA camps distributed around the country. We know that Congress has authorized 30,000 drones to conduct surveillance on the American people. We know that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) had requisitioned 1.5 billion rounds of .40 calibre hollow-point ammunition, which is not even permissible for use in warfare under the Geneva Conventions. Since DHS does not conduct operations abroad, it is rational to infer (with virtual certainty) that DHS must be acquiring that massive stock of ammo for use in the United States.

And we now learn that Congress is in the process of passing H.R. 6566, “The Mass Fatality Planning and Religious Considerations Act”, which was posted on the govtrack.us website FEMA To Mobilize For “Mass Fatality Planning” (5 October 2012), mandating federal agency to respond to “funeral homes, cemeteries, and mortuaries” being “overwhelmed” in the aftermath of a mass terror attack, natural disaster or other crisis. It was posted this after having been approved by the House on 28 September 2012.  Not to make an obvious point, but there is no domestic terrorist threat and no conceiveable natural disaster could possibly justify this dramatic authorization for coping with staggering numbers of bodies.

You don’t have to have spent 35 years teaching logic, critical thinking and scientific reasoning to put together the following premises and draw the obvious conclusion:

(1) The US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs (3 October 2012) has established that there is no domestic terrorist threat;

(2) There are 300 or more FEMA camps distributed around the country and we know that Congress has authorized 30,000 drones for domestic surveillance;

(3) Since there is no domestic terrorist threat, the domestic surveillance and those FEMA camps are not intended to survey terrorists or to imprison terrorists;

(4) Since those drones and FEMA camps are either intended to survey terrorists or US citizens, it follows that, since they are not for terrorists, they are for US citizens;

(5) DHS has acquired more than 1.5 billion rounds of .40 caliber hollow-point ammunition, which is not even permissible in warfare under the Geneva Conventions;

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(6) Since DHS does not conduct operations abroad, it has been acquired for domestic consumption and, since there are not terrorists, it must be for US citizens;

(7) Congress is planning for funeral homes, cemeteries and mortuaries being “overwhelmed” from a mass terror attack, natural disaster or other crisis; but,

(8) there is no domestic terrorist threat and no conceiveable natural disaster would justify this dramatic authorization for coping with staggering numbers of bodies.

Conclusion:  The United States is planning for massive civil war, involving massive casualities, with the citizens of the United States.  Consider the evidence.  There is no way around it.  That’s what’s happening.


What can be done?  Stock up on arms and ammunition.  Prepare for a siege with emergency food supplies and medical necessities.  This is an election year.  Demand of your senators and congressmen:  WTF?


FEMA To Mobilize For “Mass Fatality Planning”


Bill mandates federal agency to respond to “funeral homes, cemeteries, and mortuaries” being “over- whelmed”

Paul Joseph Watson


October 5, 2012

The United States Congress has passed a bill which mandates the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to prepare for “mass fatality planning” and funeral homes, cemeteries and mortuaries being “overwhelmed” in the aftermath of a mass terror attack, natural disaster or other crisis.

The bill, H. R. 6566 or the Mass Fatality Planning and Religious Considerations Act, was posted on the govtrack.us website this morning having been approved by the House on September 28.

The legislation amends the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to direct FEMA to “provide guidance and coordination for mass fatality planning, and for other purposes.” Noting the necessity for emergency preparedness in relation to terror attacks, natural disasters and man-made disasters, the bill instructs FEMA to be sensitive to the fact that Jews and Muslims require bodies to be buried within 48 hours of death.

“Funeral homes, cemeteries, and mortuaries could be overwhelmed should mass fatalities arise from a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster,” states the legislation.

Should the bill be given the green light by the Senate, the full amended text to the Homeland Security Act will state:

“Preparedness for Mass Fatalities- In carrying out this section, the Administrator shall provide guidance to and coordinate with appropriate individuals, including representatives from different communities, private sector businesses, non-profit organizations, and religious organizations, to prepare for and respond to a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster that results in mass fatalities.”

“This is just one of those things that makes the stomach turn: the people who brought us the National Defense Authorization Act (authorizing the detention of US citizens on US soil) now deem it prudent to prepare for mass fatalities on US soil,” writes Simon Black.

“FEMA, as you may recall, is the same organization that couldn’t get bottles of water delivered to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina… and held up hundreds of seasoned volunteer emergency service workers from entering the city for several days of mandatory sexual harassment training.”

The legislation will only serve to stoke more paranoia that the federal government is preparing for mass civil unrest that could lead to a declaration of martial law and require lethal force to be used, as it was during Hurricane Katrinawhen police were ordered to shoot looters.

The Department of Homeland Security has been arming itself to the teeth over the course of the last six months, purchasing ammunition in jaw-dropping quantities.

As we reported last month, following controversy over its purchase of around 1.2 billion bullets in the last six months alone, the DHS has put out a new solicitation for over 200 million more rounds of ammunition, some of which are designated to be used by snipers.


#Anonymous: We Are Preparing For Massive Civil War


Posted by Alexander Higgins – October 5, 2012

The hacker group Anonymous has put out a video warning with a sobering message: ‘We are are preparing for a massive civil war’

Recent massive ammo purchases by US domestic agencies, Obama’s Executive Order to prepare for martial law and recent anti-protests laws all point to one thing.

The US Department of Homeland Security and the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Office have placed a massive order for ammunition. The two departments are asking for 450 million rounds of bullets to be delivered in a time-frame of five years. The contractor, Alliant Techsystems, was awarded the contract and will produce .40 caliber high-performance bullets to the agencies. The order has many wondering why would DHS and ICE need so many bullets. David Seaman, journalist and host of the DL Show, helps us answer why the order was placed.

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But that is only the start. See the following links for a more complete picture.


Prepare For Martial Law! Executive Order Issued By Obama


DHS Ammunition Purchases Approach 1.5 Billion Rounds For The Year


Why Did The DHS Just Order 450 Million Rounds of .40 Caliber Ammunition?


Feds Buying Up All Surplus Ammo, Ordering Stores To Cease Sales?


The USDA and US Fish and Wildlife Order Massive Amounts Of Ammo


DHS To Purchase Another 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo


Why Did The DHS Just Order 450 Million Rounds of .40 Caliber Ammunition?


Ruger Stops Accepting Firearms Orders Citing Backlog Of 1 Million Orders In Q1


What Are The MiliPolice Planning On Doing With These Heavily Armored Vehicles?


Coming To An Occupy Near You — The Military’s New Microwave Heat Ray Gun


Pentagon Deploying 20,000 Troops Within The United States To Prepare For Civil Unrest In Event Of Economic Collapse


Ammo? What Ammo? : DHS Takes Unprecedented Step of Redacting Mass Ammunition Purchase


Martial Law: Corporate Media Hints At Military Plans To Take On The American People During Domestic Civil Unrest


US Army Preparing To Crush #OccupyWallStreet


House Passes “Trespass Bill” That Makes Protests Illegal


US Army Orders Riot Gear To Prepare For Domestic Civil Unrest


US Army Conducts Domestic Civil Disturbance and Mock Riot Drills


Military Job Video: Internment Specialist – Concentration Camp Guards In USA


Leaked Army Manual Reveals US Based War On Terror Concentration Camps


Feds Using NDAA To Silence Journalists Critical Of Government


Corporate Media Silent On Lawsuit Over NDAA Being Used To Silence Journalists


Americans Can Be Indefinitely Detained: #NDAA Supported By Court


Journalist Under #NDAA Detention For Exposing Civilian Drone Murders


US Military May Consider You a Potential Terrorist If You Question Mainstream Ideologies


Journalist Targeted With #NDAA Detention For Campaign Finance Reform Advocacy


Media Blackout As Obama Appoints First Ever Assassination Czar


Vets Being Round Up Nationwide, People Everywhere Just Disappearing


Obama Defies Federal Court Ban On NDAA Indefinite Detention


CNN Exposed! Caught Running State Sponsored Propaganda As Real News


NDAA Trojan Unleashed – Massive Military Drone Deployment In U.S. Airspace


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  1. DofC  October 10, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    They’re not concerned about Muslims, they are concerned about Americans:

    Why? If they admit all the terrorist attacks are from Muslims?

  2. Not Clueless  October 9, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    From the comments to the exploding transformers article of May ’11:

    I came across this interesting listing of 39 transformer incidents that has been compiled of incidents taking place globally over the last three and a half weeks. Thirty five of these incidents have occurred in the US! It seems that whatever is causing the explosions and problem may be more widespread, but seems to be for now, concentrated in the US, and only a portion of the transformers being affected are actually exploding – http://bigwobblenews.blogspot.com/2011/05/transformers-more-than-meets-eye.html

    The Cs have repeatedly stated that HAARP is a mind control technology, but they also said:

    “Also, the impulse system is an offshoot of the electromagnetic pulse experiments being carried out at Montauk, Brookings and elsewhere as part of the HAARP project! In connection with Pentagon missile tests, HAARP has many interesting tie-ins, not the least of which is your cell phone towers.”

    Since this transformer phenomena seems localized in the states, and that is where the primary HAARP application is concentrated, could there be a connection? I was talking to an English friend who just returned from the states. He said that during the Osama news there was a distinct madness in the air among the population. This time frame coincides with the exploding transformer phenomena. Coincidence?
    [Hmmm . . . now that’s an interesting thought!]

    Of a similar nature we recently had a “communications blackout” in Malaga, Spain: “A fire on Friday last week in the Movistar telephone exchange in the Huelin area of the city of Malaga left some 90,000 customers in Malaga and the rest of the province without a telephone line. In what is the biggest telephone failure in recent years 10,000 users lost their ADSL internet connection as well as their telephone line, an unknown number of mobiles stopped working as well as cash dispensers, credit card charging systems and alarms.” The fire was attributed to a lightning strike…

    Another – more food for thought:
    Just some info I thought I’d sign up so I can share. May or may not be relevant, but the increase in transformer failures correlate to a recent experiment started on the electric grid. Causation? Not enough data to know.

    The US has started a rather careless experiment by no longer maintaining grid frequency standards. Phasing discrepancies between different supply sources can cause catastrophic failures. This would typically be seen at switching stations. Frequency deviation of the AC line effects synchronous and switching circuits, as well as circuits employing time base derivation from the power line.

    Aged electronic components stressed with line frequency deviation could conceivably fail. Deliberate large phasing disruptions could cause transformer failure, but they would typically require more than subtle frequency shifts ~ (sabotage!).

    This experiment is started and will continue through next year.

    [Link]Demetrios Matsakis, head of the time service department at the U.S. Naval Observatory, had this to say (AP Article):

    “A lot of people are going to have things break and they’re not going to know why,”

    Standards, weights and measures are the foundation of industry, and government is proving it is not a trustworthy custodian. Privatize!

    Privatize? From the frying pan into the fire! This person is obviously unfamiliar with ponerology and psychopathy in general.

  3. Not Clueless  October 9, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    And who’s to say it’s an either/or type of calamity? Again, what if it’s a conjunction of three catastrophic cosmic events? It’s for sure the PTB are planning for something really big. Transformers have been blowing up for some time now. From May of last year:

    “With the connections we’ve noted between electrical activity in space and major events such as tornadoes, cyclones, volcanoes and earthquakes, one might suspect that the same electrical phenomena responsible for these displays of nature’s fury could be responsible for these exploding transformers too. Typically large spikes in electrical current are the cause of transformer explosions. It seems that, like the exploding transformers, our planet is being electrically overloaded in ways it can’t properly handle either, causing all manner of weather and ground-shaking chaos.”

    [9 instances of transformer explosions are cited – ALL in May ’11]
    “Now I’m sure there are those people out there thinking, “Gee, I thought transformer explosions happen all the time, how is this so important?” There’s certainly some truth to this, but there is also reason to suspect things may be different now.

    There does seem to be a noted increase in significant “transformer explosions” since the beginning of the year. Although this is by no means a scientific survey, a cursory search on Google News for the phrase “transformer explosion” from the first of the year till the present returns a hearty 24 results. The same search on the entire year of 2010 returns 25 results and then only 20 results for 2009. So, if this search is any indication, we’re well on pace to double the number of stories about transformer explosions this year compared to the last two years. A similar trend can be seen with the search phrase “transformer fire” too.
    In any case, when looking at the big picture, one can definitely see an increase in earth-changing events across the board since the beginning of this year. Focusing on transformer explosions alone isn’t the point. The most likely scenario that I can see is that the number or power of lightning strikes has increased, thus causing an increase in the power surges that trigger these transformer fires. But whether lightning is the actual cause of these fires or if there is some larger phenomena to take into account, it is hard to say at this point. Even if lightning is all there is to it, the exploding transformers are still noteworthy. The main point to consider is that something big is happening, or about to happen, and changes in the electrical environment of our planet may play a larger role than most suspect.”

    From: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/electric_universe/esp_electricuniverse21.htm
    Several have written to me claiming that I was not giving proper credit to astrophysicist James McCanney, even asserting that McCanney “originated” the electric comet theory. Some have further stated that “electric universe” theorist Wallace Thornhill has “borrowed” from McCanney’s theories without acknowledging a debt to McCanney.

    Both of these assertions are false.
    McCanney did not “originate” the electric comet theory, because:

    1. the theory has roots in many 19th century speculations about comets
    2. the catalytic work on the electric sun and electric comets was that of the twentieth century pioneer Ralph Juergens, whose published papers on the subject pre-date those of McCanney by several years
    3. Thornhill’s thesis was directly inspired by Juergens’, whose work Thornhill diligently followed from the beginning
    4. the hypothesis was favored by Thornhill, to which he has added many nuances, and differs significantly from McCanney’s
    5. the core of McCanney’s thesis is thrown into doubt by space age discovery, while Thornhill’s is not

    Nevertheless, McCanney must be given credit for having explored cometary phenomena from a unique electrical vantage point and having added to scientific discussion of the “electric comet.”
    It is clear that at least by the second half of the 19th century, many scientists believed that comet tails were fundamentally electrical. For example, in 1872, Scientific American (July 27th, p. 57), informed its readers that “Professor Zollner of Leipsic” ascribes the “self-luminosity” of comets to “electrical excitement.”
    Over subsequent decades, however, science moved away from ANY consideration of electrical phenomena in space, a turn of events which is only now being reversed.

    A major catalyst for independent re-consideration of electricity and magnetism in space came in 1950, with the publication of Immanuel Velikovsky’s World in Collision. The controversial theorist had proposed an extraordinary idea. He suggested that, only a few thousand years ago, the planet Venus appeared in the sky as a great comet.

    The theory was ridiculed by the scientific mainstream, since all well-accredited scientists “knew” that gases could not escape from a planet-sized body to produce the kind of “cometary tail” Velikovsky had envisioned. Velikovsky was not ignorant of the “escape velocity” cited by physicists, but his examination of ancient records suggested to him that our ancestors witnessed extremely intense electrical activity in the sky, including electrical arcing between planets moving on unstable courses.

    Velikovsky said that the only way the evidence could be reconciled with current scientific knowledge would be through consideration of ELECTROMAGNETISM.
    In the 1960’s, a Flagstaff, AZ engineer named Ralph Juergens – a former associate editor of a McGraw-Hill technical publication – began collaborating directly with Velikovsky, inspired by the historical evidence for electrical events in the heavens. This evidence prompted Juergens to begin an extended investigation of the electrical properties of celestial bodies. He came to see the sun as the most positively charged body at the center of an electrical system.
    “The known characteristics of the interplanetary medium suggest not only that the sun and the planets are electrically charged, but that the sun itself is the focus of a cosmic electric discharge – the probable source of all its radiant energy.”

    While Juergens’ model focused most fundamentally on the Sun, its implications for comet theory were inescapable.

    I’ll skip most of the technical details concerning the formation of a “plasma sheath” around charged bodies in space, but in the Juergens hypothesis, a comet spends most of its time in the outermost regions of the solar system, where the electric field will be most negative. The comet nucleus, Juergens said, naturally acquires the negative charge of its environment. This leads to electrical stresses on the comet as it falls towards the sun.
    Juergens’ model of the electric sun and of electrically discharging comets was immediately taken up by Earl Milton, professor of physics at Lethbridge University in Canada.

    Speaking at the annual meeting of the Society of Interdisciplinary Studies in April 1980, Milton offered a ringing endorsement of Juergens’ hypothesis:

    “The cometary body takes on the properties (author’s note: electric charge) of the space in which it has spent most of its time. On those infrequent apparitions when it comes into the space of the inner SOLAR SYSTEM, the body of the comet gets out of equilibrium because it now moving in an electrically different environment than the one it is adjusted to. An electrical flow then occurs to rectify the situation. The sheath which builds around the cometary body glows brightly and assumes the characteristic shape of the comet’s head and tail.”

    Several years after Juergens’ revolutionary papers on the electric sun, James McCanney, then a lecturer in the physics and mathematics department of Cornell University, prepared the first in a series of three articles in Kronos magazine on “The Nature and Origin of Comets and the Evolution of Celestial Bodies.”
    Over the following three decades, [Wallace] Thornhill accumulated a massive data base on comets, and much of this independent research is slated for publication in a series of volumes, beginning with the forthcoming book, “Thunderbolts of the Gods,” co-authored with David Talbott. (www.thunderbolts.info).

  4. Not Clueless  October 9, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    “As I detailled in the book, Seeds of Destruction, in 1960 the Rockefeller Foundation, John D. Rockefeller III’s Agriculture Development Council and the Ford Foundation joined forces to create the International Rice Research Institute (IRRI) in Los Baños, the Philippines.1 By 1971, the Rockefeller Foundation’s IRRI, along with their Mexico-based International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center and two other Rockefeller and Ford Foundation-created international research centers, the IITA for tropical agriculture, Nigeria, and IRRI for rice, Philippines, combined to form a global Consultative Group on International Agriculture Research (CGIAR).

    CGIAR was shaped at a series of private conferences held at the Rockefeller Foundation’s conference center in Bellagio, Italy. Key participants at the Bellagio talks were the Rockefeller Foundation’s George Harrar, Ford Foundation’s Forrest Hill, Robert McNamara of the World Bank and Maurice Strong, the Rockefeller family’s international environmental organizer, who, as a Rockefeller Foundation Trustee, organized the UN Earth Summit in Stockholm in 1972. It was part of the foundation’s decades long focus to turn science to the service of eugenics, a hideous version of racial purity, what has been called The Project.

    To ensure maximum impact, CGIAR drew in the United Nations’ Food and Agriculture Organization, the UN Development Program and the World Bank. Thus, through a carefully-planned leverage of its initial funds, the Rockefeller Foundation by the beginning of the 1970’s was in a position to shape global agriculture policy. And shape it did.

    Financed by generous Rockefeller and Ford Foundation study grants, CGIAR saw to it that leading Third World agriculture scientists and agronomists were brought to the US to ‘master’ the concepts of modern agribusiness production, in order to carry it back to their homeland. In the process they created an invaluable network of influence for US agribusiness promotion in those countries, most especially promotion of the GMO ‘Gene Revolution’ in developing countries, all in the name of science and efficient, free market agriculture.

    Now the Svalbard Seed Bank begins to become interesting. But it gets better. ‘The Project’ I referred to is the project of the Rockefeller Foundation and powerful financial interests since the 1920’s to use eugenics, later renamed genetics, to justify creation of a genetically-engineered Master Race. Hitler and the Nazis called it the Ayran Master Race.”

    Yes, the Master Criminal Race really does think they are better and know more than everybody else – most certainly superior to all those despicable dark-skinned people! They aspire to be gods and believe they are gods and they have nothing to fear from ‘God’. I think they’re in for a nasty surprise!

  5. xx  October 9, 2012 at 1:02 pm


    The most probable is Solar Flares. And why? We know the polarity of the earth’s magnetic field is changing, and this process in time can weaken and or cause distortions in this field’s protective barrier around the earth. This protective barrier helps shield the earth from solar flares and other cosmic radiations, the possible affects due to changes in this field were investigated and modeled. Once again, changes in the polarity can cause magnetic field distortions or abnormalities in field strengths with regards to specific regions (probable). Meaning, specific areas of this barrier can be weaker then others areas, and likewise more vulnerable to radiation emissions, including solar flares, gamma radiations, etc.

    I repeat, the utmost potential for damage is “Solar Flares”, with regards to satellites in space, and electrical transformers on earth. These radiation emissions can cause power surges, because electrical transformers can act as collectors for surges in electromagnetic or thermal energy. And these power surges can potentially damage major infrastructure systems, including transformers and other in line equipments.

    • xx  October 9, 2012 at 1:37 pm

      My best guess?

      Abnormalities or distortions created in the magnetic field during phases of re-polarization, that can potentially take hundreds or maybe thousands of years, may cause irregularities in gravitational forces during this process of change.

    • xx  October 9, 2012 at 5:40 pm

      Is it possible that much of the phenomenon in last five years or so is associated with changes in the earth’s magnetic field, polarization, field distortions? You figure.

    • xx  October 9, 2012 at 8:03 pm

      Before departing some questions you should research.

      1. Is the earth’s magnetic field strength strongest in pole regions?
      2. Does this mean more cosmic radiation is blocked from entering these regions?
      3. If so, would temperatures be coolest in these regions, with respect to other regions around the planet?
      4. Continuing, with magnetic poles slowly moving, does this mean strongest magnetic field strengths are moving with the poles?
      5. If so, do former poles start slowly warming, and newer poles start slowly cooling?
      6. Would these changes affect planetary weather, both cold and warm air streams?
      7. Continuing, as poles move and encounter various materials within the earth, can this cause magnetic field strength abnormalities? Flux lines being distorted due to various materials interacting with magnetic pole movement.
      8. Can more radiation preach these magnetic field distortions?
      9. Is the above interlaced with planetary activity, and are measures being taken for possible outcomes?

      that’s all.

    • xx  October 9, 2012 at 9:04 pm


      If you had to relocate millions of people underground without being conspicuous, what scenario would you suggest? Not to answer, but this would require one big smoke screen.

    • xx  October 10, 2012 at 1:53 pm

      Correction from above: Could the above affect vegetation and food supplies? Do things being performed today seem irrational, somewhat in panic mode, some attempt for preparation, what would generate this type of thinking? It’s multiple choice, but there’s always uncontrollable indicators. What is indicating what? Collect and discover.

    • xx  October 10, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      Maybe the manifestation described above was manner of one too many HAARP(s). Do you think we can HAARP(s) it back in place Jim?

  6. Not Clueless  October 9, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    The Doomsday Seed Vault – sponsored by Psychopaths ‘r’ Us

    “The seed bank is being built inside a mountain on Spitsbergen Island near the small village of Longyearbyen. It’s almost ready for ‘business’ according to their releases. The bank will have dual blast-proof doors with motion sensors, two airlocks, and walls of steel-reinforced concrete one meter thick. It will contain up to three million different varieties of seeds from the entire world, ‘so that crop diversity can be conserved for the future,’ according to the Norwegian government. Seeds will be specially wrapped to exclude moisture. There will be no full-time staff, but the vault’s relative inaccessibility will facilitate monitoring any possible human activity.

    Did we miss something here? Their press release stated, ‘so that crop diversity can be conserved for the future.’ What future do the seed bank’s sponsors foresee, that would threaten the global availability of current seeds, almost all of which are already well protected in designated seed banks around the world?

    Anytime Bill Gates, the Rockefeller Foundation, Monsanto and Syngenta get together on a common project, it’s worth digging a bit deeper behind the rocks on Spitsbergen. When we do we find some fascinating things.

    The first notable point is who is sponsoring the doomsday seed vault. Here joining the Norwegians are, as noted, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation; the US agribusiness giant DuPont/Pioneer Hi-Bred, one of the world’s largest owners of patented genetically-modified (GMO) plant seeds and related agrichemicals; Syngenta, the Swiss-based major GMO seed and agrichemicals company through its Syngenta Foundation; the Rockefeller Foundation, the private group who created the “gene revolution with over $100 million of seed money since the 1970’s; CGIAR, the global network created by the Rockefeller Foundation to promote its ideal of genetic purity through agriculture change.”
    More in next post.

  7. peter kjoneleit  October 9, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Despite the fact that ‘Not Clueless’ knows some things, he (she?) is STILL Clueless about our “reality” and what is about to transpire (and why). To my knowledge, there is ONLY ONE (actually 4) websites where ALL the pieces of The Puzzle (of human existence) have been correctly assembled: http://novalight.org

    From there, you can visit the other websites and connect the remaining “bloody blobs”. EVERYTHING is explained: Israel; Zionism; 911; 311 (Fukushima); GOM; ALIENS; America’s current predicament; the Pope and Vatican; Orifices of the ALIEN RACE; Negative Spiritual Energy; Jesus the Christ; Ezekiel 22:20; Nibiru; Nephilim; Annunaki; Comets and DESERT GLASS; the Dark Side of the Moon; NASA Zionist ‘Spaceballs’; the “Synagogue of Satan”; “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion”; Haim Saban; Theodor Herzl; Benjamin Freedman; Khazaria (Georgia); Lucifer and his fallen angels (Satan); Hashem (Yahweh); the Talmud; Judaism; Holocaustianity; “Christian” Zionism; Joel the Obscene; Barry Soetoro; Orion and the pyramids at Giza; the ‘Eye of Horus’ and Jerusalem Supreme Court; DUMBs; the Sorcerer and his Apprentice (Greenspan & Bernanke); the GRAND DEPRESSION; etc.

    Most of humanity has been locked up in Plato’s cave for eons – but there IS a Way of ESCAPE and Way to SEE! (only ONE Way!).

  8. Not Clueless  October 9, 2012 at 11:06 am

    FWIW (July 2012 Cassiopaean transcript/:

    A: The cosmos is going to clean house!!!
    Q: (L) So, what you’re saying is that your remarks at the beginning… {relate to what we have been discussing which is all the really weird stuff going on).[planchette zooms around on the board] Boy, you’re full of energy! I want to know if this fire in Colorado was caused by fireballs?

    A: Indeed and did you notice that feeble cover-up? They are getting desperate.

    Q: (L) Yes, we noticed that feeble cover-up. Speaking of fireballs, there was an article that Kniall put together about this supposed comet/missile launch. We’re just kind of a little bit curious about that because there was a lot of weird stuff going on around that.

    A: You should remember what we told you years ago about “chemtrails” in relation to MIC activity, that it was fully known that the real enemy was “out there” not “over there.” Don’t discard what Clube said about this matter so easily. You should be aware that there are swarms of missiles ready and waiting to be launched at the order of the military sky watchers so as to mask what is going on. In this case and even others there was both: A comet explosion followed by a missile launch to keep the masses calm. Can’t have the PTB looking like they are angering “the gods”, ya know!!!

    Q: (Perceval) So basically what we were thinking. (L) So in other words what you’re suggesting is that there is a network of missiles around the planet belonging to various different countries. At any given time, somebody can give the order for somebody in the right place to launch a missile to cover up the fact that there are comets. Is that it?

    A: Yes precisely. You need military activity to mask celestial events. And so it has always been.

    Q: (L) Vewy intewesting. Any other questions on that topic? I think I asked this before… I have the feeling that the so-called “alien invasion” is really comets.

    A: Pretty much.

    Q: (L) What about these sinkholes? I mean, sinkholes everywhere! This is getting to be really bizarre. I have never heard of so many sinkholes in my entire life happening all over the planet. I mean, sinkholes are kind of common in Florida, but… What the heck is going on?

    A: We mentioned an infinitesimal slowing of the planet’s rotation causing everything to “open up”?!

    Q: (L) Yes, you did.

    A: We were being literal in that instance.

  9. Not Clueless  October 9, 2012 at 10:53 am

    So those 1.5 billion rounds of .40 hollow point ammunition are going to be used to shoot the survivors?
    So why not warn the people to stock up on medical and food supplies in the case of a space catastrophe?

    If/when it becomes known that the PTB were well aware of the cosmic catastrophe that certainly appears to be oncoming and not only did not divulge that info but purposely orchestrated false info/actions/events to provide cover AND to allow taxpayer funds to be diverted into black projects, i.e. a “Noah’s Arc” so to speak – JUST FOR THEM AND NOT US – then I can very well envision massive riots/anarchy and those 1.5 billion rounds will indeed be used against us to keep US from tearing THEM limb from limb!

    The kind of space catastrophe that we most likely in the foreseeable future will experience will be of such magnitude that I would expect deaths on a massive scale beyond anything encountered since ancient times. [Read the article printed in Harper’s Magazine (Jan ’50), The Day the Earth Stood Still – http://tmgnow.com/repository/secret/velikovsky.html – for a good description as to what occurred then and how it ties into our religious/myth stories.] Humans did survive even that level of catastrophe, but then, they were not living in modern, 21st century cities. Obviously, stocking up on food/water/meds etc. is a good idea – even if you don’t survive, other people that do may be able to use your supply to sustain themselves.

    The same evidence that prompted the following statement still applies today, only more so:
    “We do not need the celestial threat to disguise Cold War intentions; rather we need the Cold War to disguise celestial intentions!”
    ~ British astronomer Victor Clube, author of The Cosmic Serpent and The Cosmic Winter, in a report commissioned by the U.S. Air Force

    “Psychopaths, we learn, are the ultimate optimists; they always think things will work in their favour.”
    I believe that there is actually going to be a conjunction of three cosmic events that will make this latest space catastrophe not survivable in underground compounds. That’s something the psychopaths and their unbridled optimism cannot see – they think they’ve got it all planned out and everything will indeed ‘go their way’. If the pyschopathic elite of this world is in actuality aligned with Service to Self hyperdimensional entities that are 30 to 40,000 years more evolved than we are, is it any wonder that things are the way they are? And, again, what the psychopaths are failing to comprehend, once their usefulness expires, they will be ‘dead meat’ as much as the rest of us.

  10. xx  October 8, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Alien Invasion

    It depends on what you define as alien? Having worked in the technology sector for more then 20 years, “Alien” will be “Robotic”, intelligent machines. I am aware robotic technology went underground during the early 1980’s, and when it surfaces again (openly exposed), this maybe the “Alien” your seeking. The information being presented, or intentionally leaked, is more then 20 years old, “fact”. Now this “Alien” is not from another world, just something most have no exposure too.

    If so, keep your eyes open for the following practice operations, where few live. An “Air Delivery” (unusual aircraft) for “Night Mission” (ground robotic deployment), and thereafter early morning retrieval (ground systems pickup). And highly recommend night vision not IR, unless of course you wish to be part of the exercise.

    You may wish to start observing unusual exercises. Because any such operation would be performed at night, this should be obvious. And this makes the robotic deployment more alien, because less visible.

    Not likely, or more likely.

  11. Not Clueless  October 8, 2012 at 7:04 am

    To continue:
    I can provide even more links than you did in your article above detailing assorted fireballs, bolides, meteorites, and asteroids zooming into our atmosphere and streaking, exploding or actually hitting cars/houses/almost hitting people/causing fires – and that’s just from April to Sept of THIS YEAR! Geographical sites include Honduras, Tuscany, New Zealand, Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Massachusetts, south Wales, Canada, Denver, New Jersey, Oregan, California, Nevada, Japan, Manitoba, Brazil, Sioux City, Washington, Gulf of Mexico, Melbourne, Russia, Madrid, Finland, Reno, Belarus, Chile, India, Colorado, Perth. It’s a global phenomenon.

    And that’s just what’s happening overhead. Let’s not forget about the rising incidents of sinkholes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, cyclones, water spouts, typhoons, tornados, hurricanes, torrential downpours with or without hail. Or how about the 7 to 11 ft of snow that fell in one night in Iceland burying the sheep herds that were still in the high meadows – it was still early Sept afterall! Should we talk about all the animals that have inexplicably dropped dead or bizarre sounds eminating from … well, nobody can really tell where those sounds are coming from – or what they are! Trumpets of the Apocalypse?

    Pretty sure that Fukushima thing isn’t over and all the countless nuke plants across our country that are also experiencing unexpected episodes – the lastest was Three Mile Island on Sept 20.. And everyone of them contain onsite spent fuel pools with the plants themselves either on or adjacent to fault lines. Research those two issues alone and then you will know that we are already dead men walking.

    As much as we want to believe that what we do on our earthly home is of no consequence to the rest of the celestial kingdom, we may just about be ready to find out otherwise. The ‘gods’ indeed may be VERY ANGRY! And for all of you looking for deliverance from the friendly space brothers, just remember mother’s warning – Never accept rides from strangers!

    • Jim Fetzer  October 8, 2012 at 12:14 pm

      So why not warn the people to stock up on medical and food supplies in the case of a space catastrophe?

    • xx  October 8, 2012 at 5:16 pm

      1. So those 1.5 billion rounds of .40 hollow point ammunition are going to be used to shoot the survivors?

      2. So why not warn the people to stock up on medical and food supplies in the case of a space catastrophe? ☼

      Question (1), Ammunition is obviously being accumulated and stored, best and most secure location is “underground”.

      Question (2), Warning of major “catastrophe or disruption”, there is not enough living area under ground so few would be warned, however, when time approaches personnel will report to under ground facilities who have adequate clearance to enter. Estimated about 10-12 million people.

      Question (3), How can you operate above from below? With robotic systems, munitions are machine fed and preloaded.

    • xx  October 8, 2012 at 5:28 pm

      That’s it, no more.

  12. Not Clueless  October 8, 2012 at 6:57 am

    “(7) there is no domestic terrorist threat and no conceiveable natural disaster would justify this dramatic authorization for coping with staggering numbers of bodies.”


    “Near Earth Objects have been whizzing past us lately, undetected until they have been practically on top of us. This illustrates the need for continued and improved monitoring for our own future safety,” Bob Berman, a Slooh editor and Astronomy Magazine columnist, said in a statement. “It is not a question of if, but when such an object will hit us, and how large and fast it may be going.”

    “Meteors sometimes detonate with forces approaching a nuclear blast as they flash through the atmosphere.” – thunderbolts.info

    “Mark Boslough’s super computer generated, comet airburst simulation is a must see. In it we see the exploding comet detonating high in the atmosphere, and becoming a SUPERSONIC DOWN DRAFT OF THERMAL IMPACT PLASMA HOTTER THAN THE SURFACE OF THE SUN.[…] And, in fact, in central Mexico, the recent marks of thermal airburst down blasts are terribly common. Forensically speaking there are thousands of square miles of pristine blast effected materials in central Mexico that describe the fall of a super cluster of too many air bursting fragments like the one Dr. Boslough’s simulation shows, and even larger, to count.

    “And with the shower of meteorites the earth stopped turning.”

    There are HUNDREDS of flood accounts throughout written history, in fact, from virtually every area of the world! Of course, floods occur all the time, but that’s not the kind of flooding these stories are referring to; they mean BIG FLOODS, catastrophic deluges well beyond the norm – the kind that consume even mountains! — Approached by the body of the comet, the earth was forced out of its regular motion; a major shock convulsed its entire surface. The major shift in the atmosphere caused by the approach of the comet and the stasis of the planet, itself produced hurricanes of enormous velocity and force. “The face of the earth changed,” writes Dr. Velikovsky, summarizing the Mayan account from the Manuscript Troano, “mountains collapsed, other mountains grew and rose over the onrushing cataract of water driven from the oceanic spaces, numberless rivers lost their beds, and a wild tornado moved through the debris descending from the sky.

    • peter kjoneleit  October 8, 2012 at 9:35 am


      Excellent point! This type of thing happened before in the Middle East (of Eden) and explains the origin of DESERT GLASS, which requires tremendous HEAT. Look for a RE-RUN in the same vicinity SOON (which will also explain Ezekiel 22:20 – yet to occur!). Check my WordPress and Google blogs for the details.

    • Jim Fetzer  October 8, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      So those 1.5 billion rounds of .40 hollow point ammunition are going to be used to shoot the survivors?

    • duay khwaam nap theuu  October 8, 2012 at 3:21 pm

      Has anyone looked into what company and who is making money from those g’ment purchases? Was it put up for bidding?

  13. CoJonesGrandes  October 7, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Oops! Forgot to post link:

  14. CoJonesGrandes  October 7, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Re: Peter K Joneleit’s comments on the number 11.
    Here’s an article on the ” Illuminati Ritual Significance of The Number 11″

  15. JS  October 7, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    And JFK was declared dead at 1 pm (1300 hours local time. Number 13 this time, rather than 11.) From the same Wikipedia page as above, “At 1:00 p.m., CST (19:00 UTC), after all heart activity had ceased and after Father Oscar Huber[79] had administered the last rites, the President was pronounced dead.”

    There is a script for each false flag plan, with coded numbers for practically everything. Guess the script ahead of time, as I believe Captain May did more than once, and you successfully derail the plan. That’s the goal.

  16. JS  October 7, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    False flag planners also like to use repeated numbers to mark the TIME and other things. For JFK’s final trip while alive, it was 1110 hours local time. This is from the Wikipedia page on the JFK assassination: “On November 22, after a breakfast speech in Fort Worth… the president boarded Air Force One, which departed at 11:10…”

  17. JS  October 7, 2012 at 7:54 am

    Dr. Fetzer,
    I can easily think of ONE false flag that could lead to civil war. This WARNING is for VT staff too. GET EXTRA PROTECTION FOR THE PRESIDENT!!!! IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT, MAKE SURE THAT THE PATSY IS NOT HISPANIC.

    • Jim Fetzer  October 7, 2012 at 11:04 am

      Well, a well-placed source has informed me that, from what he has heard, the election is already rigged to make Romney president and Obama, knowing what is to come, has purchased a $35 million home in Hawaii. I do not possess privileged information, but the FED printing press can make literally limited funding available for any corrupt purpose, including buying elections. But it may also be complete collapse of the economy. Whatever may come, you can anticipate that it is going to be VERY BAD and that all that ammo, all those camps, and all that force is going to be deployed against the American public.

    • JS  October 7, 2012 at 11:57 am

      I agree with your source. But the President has to watch his back until the handover on January 20, at a minimum. Even after that, I’m not sure I will heave a sigh of relief for a while.

      It is also possible that your scenario and my scenario could occur together, one following the other, although only one is needed. We are not out of the woods yet, on either one…

    • JS  October 7, 2012 at 12:18 pm

      I’d like to add that the loonies who arrange “false flags” seem to adore playing with numbers 11 and 13, their multiples, etc., as Captain Eric May has pointed out repeatedly (e.g., space program really loves 13). Well, it bears repeating again; take a look at these 11 multiples: The JFK assassination happened 11/22, in Dallas which is on the 33rd degree of latitude. Obama happens to be President # 44. Etc.

    • peter kjoneleit  October 7, 2012 at 12:51 pm

      The meaning of number 11 is DISINTEGRATION. It fits, doesn’t it? – particularly 911 and 311 (Fukushima). Number 13 represents the DEVIL!

    • JS  October 8, 2012 at 3:31 pm

      Watch the first headlines right after an event. The numbers often appear in headlines of operations, in the initial news stories. For example, right after Katyn Massacre II a few years ago, it was reported that 88 had died. Of course, that wasn’t correct, but so what. 88 means Heil Hitler; not funny. Then a couple months ago, headlines blared that there was a small fire only on the 88th floor of the new Freedom Tower in NYC, the one built on the WTC site. Are we actually supposed to buy this story? I guess so. The lying media keep putting out these kinds of stories with their fake numbers.

  18. davidmartin  October 7, 2012 at 12:17 am

    Confederates hate Jews. Confederates hate blacks. Confederates attacked Ohio. Confederates are al Qaeda. Confederates go to church and listen to the word but believe it doesn’t apply to blacks. Confederates think their daughters are their sex tools. Confederates deal drugs with the Mafia. Face it, Confederates just hate. Who run factory farms? Confederates do. Who opposes alternative energy? Confederates do. Slavery is the name of the game. But they should know, the underground tunnels are identified. The Pike luciferians in West Virginia have been exposed. They pretend to be Christians, but really, they worship the devil identified by Albert Pike in Morals and Dogma. We’re locked and loaded. Have a blessed day.

  19. xx  October 6, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    How do you prevent civil war? The word you are searching for is “containment”. You know this J. Fetzer, however, warfare is changing. Because in near future troops will perform minimal operations within these containers, and robots will take over this task. Why? Because they can operate by air for surveillance and specific tasks, and likewise by ground within these containers with limited risk. Because arms and munitions can be taken from humans performing operations within these containers, whereas, with robots this task is more difficult because items are mechanically attached and difficult to remove. Robots can react much faster then humans with advanced vision and target acquisition systems. These ground robots will communicate with air drones and likewise command centers, and will also employ technologies like face recognition software, amongst other. And, in some cases the ground robot can be detonated when necessary to destroy their payloads and technology packages.

    And Jim, I don’t have to explain any of the above to you, because you already know. Stationary systems and software would likely be damaged and destroyed given the situation stated in your story; and why this technology is transferable to mobile platforms.

    Now once again, imagine an advanced camera technology capable of viewing 360 degree field of operation for miles, near instantaneous acquisition. One capable of tracking hundreds of objects entering the field of view, and able to easily monitor and track all with precision. When something enters this field of view it is acquired and tracked, and monitored without your knowledge. This simply means when you enter this electronic field of operation, it will be like entering a real live video game, the difference is your the objective? The system envisions you as something that does not belong, or as target for tracking.

    You may wish to dig deeper, the rabbit hole is further down, however, you are closer.

    • xx  October 6, 2012 at 11:15 pm

      Units will be deployed to create and guard these containers, both outer and inner. Robots will operate within these containers.

    • duay khwaam nap theuu  October 7, 2012 at 4:01 am

      weapons that destroy electronics, not people

      “It works by sending out pulses of microwave radiation that disable the microprocessors that control the central engine functions of a car.”

    • xx  October 7, 2012 at 10:32 am

      “Weapons that destroy electronics, not people”, long term affects? Humans are conductive, nominal resistance is about 20K ohms, but depends on the size and mass of person, and the effects can vary depending on the person. Remember the nervous system of a human is also biological electrical circuit, so what tests were performed on humans, both long and short term? Can this also affect the human brain? And if so, would this be dangerous.

    • xx  October 7, 2012 at 8:25 pm

      With regards to robotics technology, processors can be shielded from microwave emissions or energy burst, electromagnetic pulse, etc. However, those designing and building these technologies should be required to supply more test results before placing this equipment in use (and this relates to the affects on human beings). Reason, what does lethal mean, “fatal” as in fast or slow, is lethal in fact associated with time? Some devices emitting energy or radiation burst can potentially destroy internal human tissue, however, the true affect of this damage may require time before fatal result. Whether intended or not, what can’t be seen, can be denied. And these types of technologies should not be applied during demonstrations or used for crowd control.

      The lack of oversight to the above problem is nothing new, long history of implementation before the understanding of collateral affects.

    • xx  October 7, 2012 at 9:17 pm

      As you probably know Dr. Fetzer, the camera technology described briefly above is in fact for creating a protective barrier. Would it bring great trouble for me if described how to achieve this safeguard? Today, I do not know.

    • xx  October 10, 2012 at 1:48 pm

      Could the above affect vegetation and food supplies? Do things being performed today seem irrational, somewhat in panic mode, some attempt for preparation, what would generate this type of thinking? It’s multiple choice, but there’s always uncontrollable indicators. What is indicating what? Collect and discover.

    • xx  October 10, 2012 at 1:50 pm

      The above comment is in wrong place, it’s intended for the pole change comment below.

  20. liberty1776  October 6, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    thank u, Jim Fetzer for putting out the above article & thank you VT for having the courage to tell the truth.
    I am a devoted Christian who believes in our grand experiment we call America, and I am SICK TO DEATH OF THE SECULAR ZIONIST MURDERING FILTH that has permeated much of so called ‘conservatives’ in the USA. but i also am sick to death of the anti-God democrat scum in the fed govt that has workd so hard to destroy our limited, Biblical government model. Clinton was a mini-hitler, a dumb sociopath. if u only knew. GWB43 is a stupid dumbass who signed on the dotted line to betray our nation as well. seems like nothing, NOTHING has been the same since Nov 22, 1963 – incidentally about 3 weeks before i was born.

    • Worker Bee  October 7, 2012 at 3:48 am

      “Biblical government model”?

      So divinely appointed absolute monarchs? Thankfully the US has never had such a system, and hopefully never will, as it would be even worse that what we have now which at least pays lip service to democracy.

  21. DaveE  October 6, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    The zionists can buy hollow-point bullets, ram government agencies up our rears, pass draconian laws and the like. Much of this, IMHO, is due to the Jews’ sadistic lust for power and to show us all we should be terrified of speaking out against their filthy, diabolical plans. They want to keep us terrified, so that’s precisely what we should NOT do.

    The question is, when push comes to shove, whether or not the zionist scum will be able to muster an army (police and military) to fight on THEIR side, or whether the army may just turn on THEM and fight for the common American, in defiance of our Zionist Occupied Government. I’m thinking the latter is more likely, though it won’t be a clean break and definitely not pretty.

    I do think it’s karmic irony, however, that the more brazen and evil the Jews behave, the more they are turning people against them. More people are awakening by the minute.

    It’s now a race against time.

    • Excalibur  October 8, 2012 at 4:20 am

      Always remembering Dave that when the ‘Civil War’ button is pressed – the zionists will not be accurately presenting it as a battle between them and the people. It will, using their time honoured modes of deception, be presented as ‘the good people’ against the ‘the bad people’ – with the various groups involved identified and characterized by the zionist controlled media.

      This time (and from this point onward) we must be careful to ignore the controlled media take on ANYTHING – and also to carefully examine those ‘truthers’ out there in the alternative media who are in reality just more Trojan horses designed to confuse and stymie any proper and sensible enquiry action into the worst global attack on humanity in it’s long and bloody history.

  22. Cold Wind  October 6, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    Excalibur has an excellent post here. Homeland Security is naught but Israel’s Trojan Horse ready to disgorge a fury as America wakes up and realizes ‘Israel did 9-11’! Of course, the author Paul Joseph Watson is characteristically evasive ( as are all the ‘info-warriors’) when it comes to specifiying Israel’s role in 9-11.

    • duay khwaam nap theuu  October 6, 2012 at 5:53 pm

      Along those lines, I can’t see DHS holding back an investigation by rounding up people calling for one. DHS more likely to “just be a facet of the chaos” that another Zionist op would cause. An attack, pandemic, economic collapse, food and fuel shortages, could be handled IF the government and press were not so totally screwed up. But they are screwed up, so chaos. I think causing chaos is their tool for avoiding the perp walk. Maybe if enough of “the people” don’t succumb to panic–I’m thinking grass roots organizing–the chaos trick won’t work as planned.

      They are crumbling and we are coming together; those are the trends I sense. And as they crumble, some of their teammates are going to change uniforms and be helping us.

      “This is preeminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.”

      They’ve lost already. We’re still learning how to win the peace.

  23. duay khwaam nap theuu  October 6, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura “FEMA CAMP , POLICE STATE,” – 3 PARTS

    youtube.com/watch? v=rHb83VNijBM fusion centers

    youtube.com/watch?v=jBbbkTjNpIQ FEMA camps & their relation to fusion centers and Dept of Homeland Security

    youtube.com/watch?v=kTkHP5Q3n8g …continues with visit to “residential center” with 20’ fences… and visit with slippery congresscritters


    Alex Jones documentary, “Police State 4: The Rise of FEMA” 2hr 20 min


  24. Excalibur  October 6, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Yes – my only comment is that there actually IS a terrorist threat in the United States, of course. The threat, which is still very much a clear and present danger today, comes from the Mossad 9/11 attack teams; all the ‘dual citizen’ israelis embedded within the US government and authorities; the NEOCON plotters – and israel itself.

    In fact the GREATEST IRONY IS that (with all the money spent on this project) the only viable terrorist plot against the US at this very moment in time – is one that your Homeland Security staff would be arrested, sacked and jailed for even whispering under their breath – let alone trying to investigate.

  25. Dale R. Suiter  October 6, 2012 at 11:01 am


    Planning for mass death is a “normal” part of legitimate government planning. Processing human remains, their property, notification of next of kin, funerals, etc. have long been a part of U.S. Government policy. The folks at dmort are very competent and dedicated people who perform their tasks under the radar. America is in their debt.

    Coming civil war? I cetainly hope not. Drones in our sky? Horrible. Since 9/11 Americans have lost much of our freedom. We elect despots and fools who take our treasure, freedom and treat us with condencending contempt. Democrats and republicans are a sad joke. America is operated by lobbyists. Solution? How about a third party? One solution but I don’t know if anyone can garner national support.

    I have no hope for our government. It truly does not represent our interests.

    Dale R. Suiter

    • AnthonyH  October 6, 2012 at 2:40 pm

      Dale R, before you proceed with your suggestion, “How about a third party?” you might deal with two questions, “Can the US be saved?” and, “Does it deserve to be saved?”

      Consider, for example, governmental debt: it is the process by which one generation financially cannibalizes future generations. Government debt on the books now is sufficient to cannibalize following generations of Americans TO THE END OF TIME.

      Even a former Comptroller of the United States will tell you, approximately, ‘the American system as it is currently structured cannot survive’; a main stream economist describes current policy as “system-dooming”; I say, because it cannibalizes its young, it does not deserve to survive. I introduce you to each of these speakers in my article, “Bad News for the Alternative Health Industry…” (http://redressone.wordpress.com/bad-news/)

      You are so right, “It truly does not represent our interests.”

      My solution? We have to learn those lessons of American Founders, minus their mistakes. Gordon explains in his article above how we all have addled brains owing to the lifetime intake of propaganda. I can guarantee none of that propaganda is remotely related to the knowledge you need to overcome the evil done by criminal and useful-idiot classes. Once I accidently found an obscure mention of that needed knowledge, it took me twenty years and 40,000 to 60,000 pages of original history and law books to realize how addled were my notions of American history and law.

      Basically, if you want this knowledge, you have to erase practically everything you know about American history and law, and replace it with real facts and lessons of history – and then implement such lessons. Here is an introduction to that knowledge (http://redressone.wordpress.com/)

      Also, if you’re interested in the mortgage/MBS crisis, you might find this of interest (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/09/is-mortgage-crisis-mother-of.html)

      This deals with the 50,000,000 mortgages that have damaged chains of title; thus, creating a situation where no one can demonstrate lawful authority to collect or foreclose on related loans; and suggests a unique and lawyer-approved solution.

      While my suggestion initially appears that it deals only with damaged mortgages, it could actually provide almost immediate redress for every grievance that could be named.

  26. Allesandro  October 6, 2012 at 9:36 am

    The DHS was established because of and adjacent to the 9/11/01 false flag event, planned and carried out be “Jews” and was then headed by a “Jew” who was involved in the tragic event, “Chertoff”. It was part of the plan.

    The “Jews” who came to power in Russia after the 1919-1921 revolt and later were led by Stalin, proved to be the most monstrous murderers in history, killing 40 MILLION or more innocent Russians.

    History always teaches us something if we are aware and diligent in studying it.

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