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Putin Issues Ultimatum, Threatens War Over Erdogan’s Support of ISIS

Putin issues an ultimatum to Turkey, "End all military support for ISIS"

Putin to Turkish Envoy: Tell Your Dictator President He Can Go to Hell along with his ISIL Terrorists

…by  Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin in a meeting with the Turkish Ambassador issued a verbal ultimatum calling for an immediate end to Turkey’s support for ISIS and violations of Syria’s sovereignty.  In doing to, Putin has drawn a red line over Syria, after weeks of escalating NATO moves against that beleaguered nation.

In a startling move, Russian President Vladimir Putin castigated Turkish President Recep Erdogan, calling him a “dictator” and threatening to sever diplomatic ties with Turkey over what Putin claims is Erdogan’s continued support of the ISIS terror organization.

It is believed that this is in response to Erdogan’s claim, pasted across the western press yesterday, that Putin had told him Russia was no longer going to support Syria in their war against al Qaeda, ISIS and their western backed sister organizations.

Putin summoned Turkish Ambassador to Moscow, Umit Yardim to the Kremlin for what turned out to be a two hour diatribe by Putin with fiery accusations returned by the Turkish Ambassador.  This is the best translation of key statements made by Putin:

“Tell your dictator Erdogan to go to hell and that unless he stops well established and easily proven support for ISIS, Russia will sever diplomatic relations.  We are  prepared to turn Syria into a big Stalingrad for Turkey and her Saudi allies and their vicious little gang of Hitlers.

Your little dictator is a hypocrite, attacking the military coup in Egypt while, at the same time, he is trying to overthrow the elected government of Syria. As it stands, China, Iran and Russia will guarantee the survival of Syria.”

In an article by the Moscow Times, a publication controlled by CIA contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, a different version is given with Ambassador Yardim shouting down Putin and blaming Russia for all of Syria’s ills.  As an illegally foreign owned media organization, the Moscow Times is being sold to Russian owners by government decree with change of ownership coming in September 2015.

The meeting is said to have lasted over two hours and to have been behind closed doors.  The version we have of statements made were leaked by sources close to President Putin. We believe the statements quoted above are to be considered an ultimatum

Yesterday, President Obama announced that the United States would provide air support for US trained jihadists fighting inside Syria.  The White House statement may well have been misquoted by the Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal.  The Journal, in another case of “mission creep,” quoted spurious anonymous sources in the Pentagon embellishing the president’s statement to include air attacks on Assad forces.

It is very possible that the White Houses’ failure to demand a retraction for the WSJ story until early this morning Washington time may have been a contributing factor to Putin’s rage.  To a large extent, the Wall Street Journal has become an organ of Netanyahu’s schemes since Murdoch bought the publication  in 2011.

Netanyahu has long seen himself as the ultimate winner in any military confrontation between Russia, China and NATO and Japan.

The Plot Thickens

One other possible contributing factor in Putin’s attack on Erdogan is the issue of the downing of MH17, the Malaysian Airlines flight shot down over Ukraine.  Last week, Russia vetoed a move in the United Nations Security Council to set up an unprecedented investigative tribunal to adjudicate the issue based on the yet to be released results of the Dutch (NATO) investigation.

Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov made it clear that he has no confidence in a NATO run investigation and that Russia sees this as an attempt by the west to spin what Russia sees as a Kiev backed false flag terror attack into a propaganda victory against Russia.

Russia sees the continued attempt to blame the downing of MH17 on a Russian BUK missile when no evidence whatsoever exists supporting that scenario, one the western press has adhered to unflinchingly.

Russia has tried to present evidence, backed by German based forensic investigators, that MH17 was shot down by a Kiev based SU25 seen by multiple radars closing in on the Boeing 777 aircraft immediately prior to its downing. The west has refused to consider this evidence much as the west had refused to accept evidence of Turkey’s use of chemical weapons against civilians inside Syria.

In 2012, Russian investigators attempted to present scientific evidence of the use of Turkish sarin gas by al Nusra forces near Aleppo.  The west refused to look at the evidence even when Turkish prosecutors had ordered the arrest of both Turkish nationals and foreign backed terrorists who were operating sarin production facilities inside Turkey.

It wasn’t until the possibility of military confrontation between the US and Russia became a reality that President Obama accepted the Syrian version of events.  Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh outlines this confrontation and Erdogan’s role in the use of sarin gas against Syrian civilians in his book, The Red Line and the Rat Line.

In June 2015, Erdogan failed to win a majority in a national election, one swayed from Erdogan by a large Kurdish opposition vote.  Erdogan has continued to rule without forming a government giving credibility to President Putin’s claim of Erdogan’s dictatorial rule.

It is estimated that a minimum of 25,000 ISIS fighters have transited Turkey into both Syria and Iraq since 2011. In the last 18 months, a number of Turkish officers have been killed or captured inside Syria.  Additionally, most ISIS and al Nusra fighters captured by Syrian, Kurdish and Iraqi forces have told of Turkey’s full complicity in their terror operations.

It should be noted that the terror attack of June 20, 2015, purportedly by ISIS against Erdogan’s Kurdish political opponents in the town of Suruc, was used to provide a rationale for the Turkish air assault on Syria and Iraq.  Turkey has flown hundreds of sorties against Kurdish villages along with providing air support for ISIS terrorists fighting against Kurdish forces of the YPG and PKK.

Another major factor involves a sea change in Saudi relations in the Middle East.  In an article today from the Fars News Agency in Tehran, we read the following:

“In the context of the Russian initiative to sustain the Saudi-Syrian rapprochement, KSA Intelligence Chief may visit Damascus by the end of August, according to well-informed sources.

More than 200 Saudi are arrested by the Syrian authorities over their terrorist activities as 700 others have joined the militant groups which are fighting the Army, Al-Manar reported.

The sources added that the Russian side has managed to convince the Saudi leaders that battling ISIL and all the terrorist groups is of a great importance for all the regional countries.

Russia considers that preserving the Saudi-Syrian-Egyptian triangle will preserve the political and security situation in the Middle East and that if the terrorist groups manage to destroy this formula, terrorism will invade the whole region and reach Europe, according to the sources.

The sources note that the Saudi-Syrian convergence is expected to reach fruitful results yet that it needs time for KSA to arrange its internal files in preparation for a strategic change.”

Erdogan’s Fail

With NATO moves in the region, including air defense weapons for Latvia, the militarization of Poland and America’s silence on Kiev’s continued violation of the Minsk peace accords, Putin may well have chosen Erdogan as the “weak underbelly” of NATO.  With Erdogan’s domestic political problems and his possible complicity in staged false flag terror attacks against political rivals, civil war in Turkey is a very real possibility.

With NATO voting last week to back Turkey’s moves against Iraq and Syria “without question,” Putin may well be extracting payment from the United States for 14 years of unreasoning bellicosity.

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45 Responses to "Putin Issues Ultimatum, Threatens War Over Erdogan’s Support of ISIS"

  1. rockwool  October 13, 2015 at 9:45 am

    QUOTE:
    ‘Russia considers that preserving the Saudi-Syrian-Egyptian triangle will preserve the political and security situation in the Middle East and that if the terrorist groups manage to destroy this formula, terrorism will invade the whole region and reach Europe’.

    Moscow is clueless, this is exactly what the Takfiri House of Saud wants because it fullfills the Book of Revelation (planted in the bible ca 500 A.D. and therefore a Satanic abomination) as well as its equivalent in the Quran (which is JHWH’s counter to the Satanic hijacking of Jesus’ word).

  2. MarshaMoore7  October 7, 2015 at 6:58 pm

    Story quoting Alaturk, do you actually think Putin would allow some Turkish symp state anything about his talks. does ANYONE other than a genocidal loving idiot would think that Erdogon is anything other than a DICTATOR. He lost the election by large margins due to the massive turnout of the Kurds. Turkey does not even have a Constitution now. Why don’t you people that rely on Google as the last authority on an issue,DO SOME REAL RESEARCH.

  3. ультра  October 5, 2015 at 6:14 am

    Бред,Путин,я лично вообще ничего не слышал о встрече Путина с послом(это вообще из ряда вон,президент не будет встречаться с послом).

  4. Beydety  August 7, 2015 at 7:14 am

    Gordon,
    just so you know, the article you quoted has been removed from the Moscow Times.

    • Connie  August 9, 2015 at 8:53 pm

      “The news stories published on some websites, claiming that Putin summoned Turkish Ambassador Umit Yardim, and called Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan a dictator are not true,” Putin’s press spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters at a teleconference Wednesday. “Moscow Denies Putin Called Erdogan ‘Dictator'” (Turkishny) and (videonews.us)

  5. Bente  August 5, 2015 at 9:58 am

    It is a good story.. have looked around in a few places… like Russia-China-Turkey – – and more… can’t find ANY mention of this outburst….what is the source? Sounds like April’s fool…

    • Eol Awki  August 6, 2015 at 12:32 am

      I agree. This does not sound like Putin at all. I can see no other evidence for this – anywhere.

  6. DGSE  August 5, 2015 at 9:49 am

    Interesting…if true. Lets not ahead of ourselves here, after all it was a “private meeting”, and while there may have been some bluster coming from the office, the ‘devil is in the details’, which there are none.
    Pure speculation, and in some cases, perhaps dreaming.
    I am looking for ACTIONS from the Russians (on more than on subject), not words from the ‘ether’. In regards to this subject, there could be some very interesting actions/politics.
    Turkey does seem (to me) to be in a state of ‘flux’ or on the verge of cracking. Erdogan’s future seems to be on shaky ground, especially with his ‘is ra hell’ a$$kissing.
    On top of the “watch list” the recently announced move of the SE gas line from Ukraine to Turkey. The Greek situation also has a roll in this “Grand Game”.
    The insane West seems to be ramping up the warmongering heading into this very strange September of 2015.
    God help us all.

  7. Cold Wind  August 5, 2015 at 7:16 am

    Finally! But what about the announced US/Israeli bombing sorties against Syrian military assets?

    • Aziz Khalfan  August 5, 2015 at 8:17 am

      3 nights ago, Josh Earnest, a White House spokesman, warns Syria against hitting the American trained cannibals. I mean terrorists, err freedom fighters.

  8. captain obvious  August 5, 2015 at 12:43 am

    I hope this is true, and it may be why Russia has trained paratroopers.
    it is still my opinion erdogan is scared his pet terrorists who are getting their butts kicked will run to turkey, so he’s trying to guarantee them more wins so they dont. he’s in a panic asking NATO for help, and the MSM is lying for him, no surprise there.
    enough is enough! and I hope it implies the same for izrahell supporting terrorists with its own “little hitler” Bibi Amin who has more blood on his hands than Idi..

    • Aziz Khalfan  August 5, 2015 at 2:49 am

      Bibi Amin, I hope the name sticks.
      Did you know that the first foreign country Idi Amin visited as the head of state ?
      He visited Israel first.
      Subsequently the hijacking fiasco until Bibi Amin’s brother got killed may have been a collusion between the Israeli crazies with Idi Amin.

    • captain obvious  August 5, 2015 at 6:35 am

      yup, me too Aziz. Bibi Amin sure describes his act more accurately. Idi wasn’t threatening the whole world with a Sampson Option, supporting terrorists while getting annual welfare-warfare checks and all the weapons he could ever want to genocidally “retaliate” on an unarmed open concentration camp full of TRUE semitic people anytime his HAMAS launches crummy rockets to generate an excuse! of the two I think Bibi is a LOT more diabolical and psychopathic.

    • Aziz Khalfan  August 5, 2015 at 8:13 am

      Then it goes full circle and Idi ends up living and dies in Saudi Arabia while on a U$ 5000 monthly stipend.
      Kind of explains the ISIS angle too.

  9. Connie  August 4, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    When the cats away, the mice will play. Webster Tarpley is focusing on a General Allen putsch when Obama was in Africa. Allen and his traitorous supporting networks involving Wall Street enacted a no-fly zone which would be a safe haven for ISIS. Obama had threatened to kick Turkey out of NATO before he left for Africa if Erdogan did not stop supporting ISIS. Then Allen did his putsch conspiring with Erdogan to enact no-fly zone and bombing of Kurds. So Obama and Putin are on the ‘same page’ on this, and Putin probably knows the scoop. Obama apparently does not have the power to fire Allen, but did counter by appointing a new ambassador, anti-Allen Ratney, to Turkey.

    • Connie  August 4, 2015 at 11:06 pm

      correction– Ratney is new ambassador appointed to Syria

    • Beydety  August 5, 2015 at 12:28 am

      Connie,
      that was an interesting comment. Do you have a link for further reading?

    • Connie  August 5, 2015 at 1:15 am

      @ Beydety Go to Tarpley dot net and today it is the top item, a radio interview on INN World Report with Tom Kiely posted there with the head “Putin Issues Ultimatum to Turkey: Stop Supporting ISIS Terrorists or Face Break in Diplomatic Relations”

    • Beydety  August 5, 2015 at 6:03 am

      Connie,
      thank you for the link.

    • Connie  August 5, 2015 at 11:09 pm

      @ Beydety – You are welcome. When getting info there, you may need to factor in that Tarpley can do a Middle East/world events analysis without mentioning the Israelis. If pushed to do so as in this interview, he minimizes it and quickly changes the subject.

    • Beydety  August 7, 2015 at 5:29 am

      Connie,
      thanks for that advice. Coincidentally, I’ve read other commenters on two other sites saying the same thing.

  10. Beydety  August 4, 2015 at 10:43 pm

    If that was what went down, then this would have to be the best news I’ve heard re Syria since 2011.

    Thanks Gordon.

  11. Ted Gorsline  August 4, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    What about the Russian gas pipeline that is supposed to go through Turkey? Its mostly to serve Germany. I bet the Greeks would like to get their hands on it instead and be in the position of metering natural gas to Germany.

  12. Peter Johnson  August 4, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    He could send a couple of hundred fighters and a dozen nuclear bombers and plenty of SAMs to Syria “to fight ISIS”. That would shake things up.

  13. Harry Haller  August 4, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    It appears that Mr. Putin may be the only world leader standing up for Christianity. And Christianity is always a target for the Neocon-Zionists.

  14. Excalibur  August 4, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    No doubt Mr Putin will carefully weigh the issues surrounding this clear provocation against Russia (including the deliberate and calculated rudeness of the Turkish ambassador by the sounds of it) and he will act accordingly. In doing so he ought to factor in three things in my humble opinion.

    One is that Erdogan’s (widely publicised) announcement was certainly calculated to offend and bring about a Russian reaction. Two is that the israelis will undoubtedly be involved in this deception and misrepresentation at some level – perhaps at every level. The zios will see themselves in a ‘no-lose’ scenario as they stir the pot.

    Three is that the creatures who control the western nations (and israel) will NEVER give up their psychological, media, financial and military campaign against him and his people. He currently stands in the way of their plans – just like Mr Assad. All these factors are relevant to frustrating the zio enemy.

  15. Excalibur  August 4, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    In 1974 the British Prime Minister, Harold Wilson, rang the Turkish Premier and told him that British planes were on their way to Turkey – and that unless his troops immediately stopped the illegal invasion of Cyprus – Ankara would be nuked. They stopped in their tracks at that moment. That is why the strange line across Cyprus is drawn where it is. Some friends of mine were with bayonets fixed and about to open up on the Turkish paratroops advancing across Cyprus. Fortunately it halted before that happened. Bullies need ultimatums and they need to know that those ultimatums are real.

  16. Altimometer  August 4, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    As well as extraction Putin might provide a wee bit of insertion, and take the NA out of TO in ERDAGONIA.

  17. mike orin  August 4, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    Funnel money to Erdogan’s opponents, Vlad. You thought you could do business with Turks?

  18. Detlef Reimers  August 4, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    Today Times of Israel published an Article “Erdogan says Putin may ‘give up’ on Assad – Russian leader no longer fully committed to shoring up Syrian ruler and his regime, asserts Turkish president” as well as PressTV.

    On 3.Aug. gagrule.net published this:

    http://www.gagrule.net/russian-president-putin-to-turkish-ambassador-tell-your-dictator-he-can-go-to-hell-with-his-isis-terrorist/

    The article on Moscow Times cannot be found. Therefore I wonder, if someone placed it with purpose.

  19. Ted Gorsline  August 4, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    It looks like Greece is going to go bankrupt and leave the European Union no matter what happens. I wonder if they will shift to the Russian camp. I believe they once owned most of that part of Turkey that the Kurds don’t claim. They might make a realiable ally for Russia against Turkey. Losing both Turkey and Greece would sure shake up NATO.

  20. Jack Heart  August 4, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Booz Allen Hamilton (the Carlyle Group) own the Moscow Times? That’s just to funny. Thank you for this Mr. Duff.

  21. Wulver  August 4, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    We may soon have real time evidence of what a Buk missile battery in action looks like. In the skies over Syria.

  22. Aziz Khalfan  August 4, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    Erdogan has taken steps to punish the Kurds for upsetting his power balance.
    Duplicious characters should not be trusted with unbriddled Power.
    Viva to Putin, it is time he starts to speak with balls otherwise no one will take him seriously.

  23. Allesandro  August 4, 2015 at 10:54 am

    They should lob a Iskander into the center of his new palace. How many hundreds of rooms is it?

    • Aziz Khalfan  August 4, 2015 at 12:20 pm

      “You may own a mansion with a thousand rooms but you can only sleep in a single room.”
      Chinese Proverb.

  24. Allesandro  August 4, 2015 at 10:52 am

    I used to read Barron’s, NYT, and sometimes WSJ faithfully.

    Since Murdock took over I NO LONGER trust any of them. Just sayin.

    • medicis  August 4, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      we have never been able to trust them… before Murdock or after.

  25. Detlef Reimers  August 4, 2015 at 10:41 am

    About Suruc:

    Perhaps one of the most telling fact about the Suruc massacre is, that there was no turkish police in the town at the time of that meeting of a left wing youth group. This obviously was ideal to execute a “terror attack” without any trace of the real perpetaitors.

    This reminds me very clearly of the suspicious circumstances of the last massacre of leftist in Norway, done by Brevik.

    Then, after the killings, the totally irresponsible PKK killers did their provocative killings against Turkish police. I wonder, who might have given them the weapons.

  26. Detlef Reimers  August 4, 2015 at 10:27 am

    Very good news for shure, Gordon. For the first time that I know of, this criminal clan of the Erdogans which took over power in Turkey got the only right answer in the only language they’ll understand.

    This is not only a very clear warning to Erdogan, but also to the NATO and the US. Any “not clear” language choosen by the US president Obama must – under this serious circumstances – be judged by Syria and Russia as a indirect and deliberate justifying and reinforcement of the totally crazy part (The Khagans of the the US) of the US foreign ministry as well as the ruthless and treasenous parts of the US military, which – in cohort with the treator McCain and other totalitarians – are pushing this world to the brink of WWIII under the always caring eyes of their hidden master, which is and always was the end time apologets of the ruling class of Israel and their 5th columns over the world.

    We’ll watch carefully at the next developments.

  27. davor  August 4, 2015 at 9:27 am

    Thank you mr.Duff and VT for this story.
    Turkey in NATO was always an oxymoron to my logic.

    • medicis  August 4, 2015 at 5:30 pm

      Not such an oxymoron. NATO is criminal. Erdogan is criminal. The United States private federal corporation located in the District of CC is criminal. The Rothschild(s) et. al., are criminal in the nth degree. Turkey fits right in with NATO. And, strategically, from the point of view of the ‘perps’, fits right in as well.

    • medicis  August 4, 2015 at 5:42 pm

      CC? what the heck is CC? sorry…. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA – administered exclusively by congress, CEO Obama. Are You a citizen of that place? Begin to learn the law, history and what your status is. Are you a ‘citizen’? Or are you a man, a woman or what? Only and man and woman have legitimate status in common law. Citizens are artificial entities under the jurisdiction of the private corporate tribunals known as ‘courts’… Men and Women are not, unless they signed something agreeing they (those men and women) were corporate whores. Make sure you know your status (lawfully and legally) and how to defend it.

  28. Codoh  August 4, 2015 at 8:43 am

    I knew something was fishy about that WSJ thing.

    • pmccabe64  August 5, 2015 at 8:44 pm

      “And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom: and healing all manner of sickness and every infirmity, among the people. And his fame went throughout all Syria, and they presented to him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and such as were possessed by devils, and lunatics, and those that had the palsy, and he cured them: And much people followed him from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judea, and from beyond the Jordan.” from the Holy Catholic Bible online at JohnTheBaptist.us from Saint Matthew: 4:23-5)

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