Elon Musk: ‘We Have Not Ruled Out’ That UFO Caused Space X Explosion

UFO provides convenient distraction

Rocket Boom

[Editor’s note: Of course they have not ruled out the UFO – it provides a very convenient distraction. The more time and effort people put into looking at that UFO or rather, an unidentified blob of blurry pixels, the less time they have to devote to any meaningful research or study of the events.

We can take one or two important points from what Musk has had to say however, as Jeff Smith pointed out after studying what Musk and Space-X have said since the ‘incident’:

Data shows that the “anomaly” started around the upper stage liquid oxygen tank, and occurred in less than “35 to 55 Milliseconds”. Therefore prior to the anomaly all systems were go up to 8 minutes before main engine test fire. The only thing stored around the upper stage oxygen tank is the rockets lithium batteries and the helium pressurization tanks. There are no telemetry reports of thermal runaway in the lithium batteries or major helium / fuel / oxygen tank leaks.

35 to 55 milliseconds is how long a nuclear reaction would last before thermal expansion would occur. This is why lithium batteries are not allowed on nuclear subs or used in submarine torpedoes. A sufficient thermal runaway triggered in lithium batteries by X-ray exposure will produce a small nuclear reaction that can set off any nearby hydrogen / helium source. Both Lithium and Helium are split into hydrogen gas during the reaction. This section of the rockets body is made out of carbon fiber and not aluminum so it is vulnerable to any high power microwave radiation source.

Note 35 to 55 milliseconds is less than 1/25th of a compressed MPEG frame. So the explosion took place in less than 1 video frame. They do not state whether or not all telemetry was lost after that and he does not rule out that the cause was external. This will also set Space-X back at least 1 year because of insurance problems alone. No-one will insure until the cause is found and corrected. This could be simple hostile corporate take over tactics. Boeing and Lockheed cutting out Space-X.

So now we have one small piece of data that provides confirmation that a nuclear event took place in the form of the 35-55ms timing. Here is some further explanation from Jeff of the nature of the nuclear event that took place and destroyed the rocket:

Helium / deuterium chain reactions. The helium is split into deuterium and hydrogen by the x-rays. It then goes bang once properly ionized. Lithium splits into Helium then Deuterium then Hydrogen etc. It undergoes fission first then fusion kicks in. This is how mother nature stores energy then releases it at a later date. It’s called a “Fission – Fusion” process and not just a “fission” or “fusion” process. It uses both process to work not one. People that know physics or chemistry often miss this process because they are not properly trained in these type of reactions. Only weapons design people usually know this stuff.

The helium is used to pressurize the fuel and oxygen tanks so they don’t implode due to vacuum as the fuel is drawn off during flight. Pressure and volume drop so you have to counter pressurize the tanks. Helium is used to prevent cavitation and static charge build-up from occurring in the tanks. Commonly called vapor lock in old cars. Nitrogen was formerly used but it’s heaver and can’t be compressed as densely as helium can. So the nitrogen tanks were bigger and heaver. Helium is used for weight savings and static charge prevention.

Of course, there will be those who continue to talk nonsense about UFOs and aliens and perhaps even more esoteric causes; some of them will be paid to do so as part of the psyop to cover the truth, others are just borderline crazy due to their need to believe they have found evidence of aliens interacting with us. Ian]

Elon Musk: ‘We Have Not Ruled Out’ That UFO Caused Space X Explosion

The statement by the vaunted entrepreneur that he couldn’t rule out that UFO hunters were correct that an unidentified object or weapon initiated the explosion has alien enthusiasts out in full force.

The frenzied excitement for alien hunters hit new heights on Friday when the innovative wunderkind Elon Musk wrote to a commenter on Twitter that “We have not ruled that [a UFO hitting the Space X Falcon 9 rocket] out” with theories ranging from an attack by foreign defense forces to a laser attack by an alien ship quickly cascading through social media.

The statement comes one week after self-proclaimed UFO hunters pointed to video footage from the SpaceX explosion noting that there was a black object barreling near the rocket only seconds before explosion with YouTube viewers quickly dispatching theories that the flying object was a bird or a bug based on the relative speed of the object – over 1,000 MPH – and its appearance behind riggings that ruled out the possibility that it was a bug in the camera lens.

The explosion quickly consumed the rocket destroying Facebook’s AMOS-6 internet-beaming satellite and causing unprecedented damage to the launchpad – a fairly unusual incident for a rocket explosion. Musk said the explosion was “really a fast fire” and was unable to point to specific mechanical causes for the failure of the rocket. One Twitter user said that the sound at 54 seconds in a video posted “sounds like a metal joint popping under stress” which Elon Musk said was “most likely true” but also said that “we can’t yet find it on any vehicle sensors” pointing to the possibility of some outside sabotage.

“Important to note that this happened during a routine filling operation. Engines were not on and there was no apparent heat source,” said Musk questioning how the rocket could spontaneously erupt in flames. “Particularly trying to understand the quieter bang sound a few seconds before the fireball goes off. May come from rocket or something else.”

One person suggested that it could be a drone, but opined that if it was a drone it was a particularly fast and circular drone that does not match the description of any known existing defense products. Others opined that whatever the flying vehicle that may have given rise to the explosion, it appears it was a “well planned attack from a competitor.”

Although speculation continues to circle around the explosion of the Space X Falcon 9 rockets with the most fascinating theory by far being the potential that space aliens beamed the rocket, many more plausible alternatives exist including a leak of propellant fuel, metal on metal contact sparking just enough initial flame, or a buildup of oxygen. Some commenters are even blaming Vladimir Putin and/or China – which makes maybe less sense than even space aliens.
The truth is out there.

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  1. Chris Essonne  September 17, 2016 at 4:57 am

    New release of my video analyzing object’s trajectory.
    This video now analyzes accelerations (starting at 8’00”), and there are some beautiful surprises !!
    Silver bullet at 10’30”.
    This is definitively an automatic vehicle with astonishing performance.
    Hope you will enjoy !

    • kaho  September 17, 2016 at 7:45 am

      Great video, Chris!
      As I began viewing it, there were only 10 viewers listed. And when I finished, about 15 minutes later, there were already 18! That is approximately 30 per hour. I hope the trend continues.
      I suppose what you have assumed is that the object moves with constant velocity, and that is how you obtain the hidden (hidden because it is the dimension that disappears in the photographic projection) third dimension.
      Personally I would have used some easy programming language such as Fortran or C. (Or even my plain old calculator). But I think you reach more people by presenting it as a spreadsheet problem, because there are far more people familiar with spreadsheets than with Algol, Fortran, C, Java and what have you.
      I always wondered a bit about the stuff with «electrogravity». I took a look at a book by author Tex Marrs, called «The Fourth Reich», but had to put it down when he started talking about electrogravity.
      I suppose, if such is the case, then there exist a hitherto undiscovered coupling between the electromagnetic field and gravity (or rather undisclosed, if Tex Marrs is right).
      And now your Tesla video is first in line!

  2. Agin  September 15, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    Slightly off topic, but perhaps related…

    “Israel launched a Shavit2 rocket from its facility at Palmachim airbase on Sept. 13. Israeli media report that the satellite (Ofek 11) is malfunctioning.”

  3. kaho  September 15, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    ( The addresses didn’t get through )
    thecreatorsproject.vice com /

    thecreatorsproject.vice com /


  4. kaho  September 15, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    Peter Paul,
    There is a discussion here, that might be relevant :

    (read about the spinning video camera)
    In particular this image has some of the same quality in it as ours :

  5. Peter Paul 1950  September 15, 2016 at 1:48 am

    I just put up a new video on my channel that I’ve been working on for the past few days. I made screen shot images of my audio editor to make the sound track visible and to point out the various parts that could be revealing of a fission-fusion event.
    Falcon X and The Crackling Geiger Counter – Part 2

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 15, 2016 at 2:39 am

      kaho, thank you for the seismic graph, though it just goes to prove what can always be registered on such occasions. And yes, that short distortion is really out of this world. I can only compare it to throwing a pebble into a clear lake and observe how the waves distort the reflection on the surface. That kind of ripple or wave effect is clearly visible, and the stretching and compressing in all directions truly makes me wonder.
      But may I point out that any real image or video editor has these effects as built in utilities to distort in any way imaginable. I don’t know if you are into editing images but it has been in use ever since they have been created. But in this case we are dealing with something completely different. There is no editing involved.
      By the way the original video was made in Ultra HD and 29,97 fps. Maybe they even 60 fps, but that is what is in use by TV for sporting events like football and racing. As a F1 fan I’ve always loved the mounted cameras that can show the race from all kinds of perspectives.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 15, 2016 at 3:10 am

      Which suddenly brings me to the following idea: where was the recording and storing taking place? Inside the camera or was it a wireless connection from the camera to the control building? That would explain the distortion if an EMP event took place. Electrons travel along magnetic fields. Look at the polar lights how they move and even more, look at the SOHO images of the sun itself. The solution must be in the wireless connection. That is state of the art today. The ‘träger frequenz’ was distorted, not the digital images themselves. Did it influence AM or FM? Or both?

    • kaho  September 15, 2016 at 5:31 am

      Good work Peter Paul !
      What I have been thinking all this time, although I did not see any comments mentioning it, is that the explosions scared up the birds, and many of them flew up into the air and quipped warnings to their mates, because birds are always listening for sounds, and are experts at communicating by means of their songs – songs that we humans don’t know the meaning of. We just know that birds often sing beautiful tunes, inspiring our poets and musicians : The language of the birds that only a few inspired ones can understand.

      I never worked much with audio files. But of course I have looked at some now and then. I think that what you see are are time samples of amplitudes. Microphones have a membrane as essential element, which is made to move back and forth in the same rhythm as the variations in the local air pressure that make up the sound. Most real sounds are composed of several frequencies, and a sound’s frequency spectrum is essentially a Fourier transform over a certain time interval. But my question really is how you managed to synchronize the sound file with the visual images? I recall some comments saying the time lag due to the distance was 12 seconds, others said it was 11.

    • kaho  September 15, 2016 at 5:48 am

      Peter Paul, There were three independent seismic stations, and their distances from the launch platform were mentioned on one of the sites I visited. Maybe it was on «reddit.com» in one of the discussion groups there (Amos 6). What is not known very exactly is the speed of the seismic surface waves, because it depends on the local geology. What I saw, however, in a NASA publication, was that the ground at Cape Caneveral is mostly sedimentary, but I do not know if that helps much. Anyway, the distances were much less than the 4 km from the launch pad to the camera location. I think it said 0.93 miles (? I don’t recall exactly, so please verify before using). And so it would be really interesting to correlate the sound file you isolated from the video recording, with the seismic data (NB Three different independent stations).

  6. Trakkath  September 13, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    I remember that I had seen in one video about 911 the same ball-shaped kind of drone. Wasn´t it before impact on the second WTC-Tower ?

  7. kaho  September 13, 2016 at 5:54 am

    Peter Paul, You may be on to something that I do not quite understand.

    In general, though, it is known from electromagnetic theory, especially from our knowledge of the properties of the magnetic force, that a magnetic field cannot change the speed of charged particles.
    ( Are you familiar with the equation F = e v x B ? The vector cross product tells us that the force F always acts perpendicular to the velocity vector v of the charged particle, whose charge is e. )
    A static magnetic field vector B can only change the *direction* a free charge is moving in, but not the magnitude |v| of the velocity vector v. For a time-varying magnetic field, there is, however, another effect :

    This is the phenomenon of magnetic induction that causes a so called electromotoric force (emf) that could presumably reverse the flow of electrons in a circuit. But I do not understand how this might change the memory addresses of the photo cells in the CCD chip in such a systematic fashion.
    And so until this becomes clear, I will stick to my idea that it is a powerful air blast (a blast of wind ) that causes the towers to vibrate, which would be described a a case of ***forced oscillations***.

    • kaho  September 13, 2016 at 10:38 am

      Peter Paul, I took a second look, and it now seems as if it is the whole picture that is swaying, not just the towers. So I am now leaning more towards your proposal. But I still do not understand exactly how the effect comes about.

      What is clear is that the CPU reads the pixels of the CCD cell and transfers their values to memory registers that span several color bytes for each pixel. But it does not read all CCD pixels at the same time. It is also clear that the readings must be clocked. But if the internal camera clock frequency becomes temporarily changed, due to external electromagnetic fields, then it may indeed cause a temporary offset of the storage addresses that label the bytes that are received by and stored in the camera memory.

    • kaho  September 13, 2016 at 11:25 am

      Here is a demo of image distortion by an external magnetic field applied to a CRT television tube.
      ( The old-fashioned analog TV tube where the image is created by a moving electron beam )

      It shows a similar type of image distortion as in the SpaceX video, as pointed out by Peter Paul.
      The causes of the distortion are well understood in the case of the analog CRT tube.
      ( but not so well in the case of a digital video camera )

    • kaho  September 13, 2016 at 1:26 pm

      The CR demo was with Walter Levin at MIT U-tube :::::?v=YbzBTdU7iRU:::::
      ( the url that was lost in the above)

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 13, 2016 at 7:59 pm

      kaho, I definitly am and thank you for pointing other effect like magnet and tv tube (Braun’sche Röhre), What a magnet does there is nothing else than causing the flow of electrons flowing towards the flourescent screen to be distracted in another direction. That’s not what I’m talking about in our case.
      You do know what a transformer is and how that works and do know the difference between AC and DC currents? A transformer has a primary and secondary coil of wiring. If you use DC as primary source you will find that it won’t work – except on one single occasion. And that is the very moment you switch on the DC current to flow. On a scope you will see one single peak going steep up and then coming back down to disappear altogether. A transformer only works correctly with alternating current: AC.
      That is the reason we all have AC provided, in the US it’s 50 Hz whereas here in EU it’s 60 Hz. It’s that famous humming sound of florescent lighting, and that utterly disturbing frequency that can drive a musician crazy when you suddenly get that annoying back coupling from the speakers to the microphone.
      And why is a transformer shielded and even needs coolant? Why can transformers explode?

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 13, 2016 at 8:17 pm

      kaho, I am pointing to electromagnetic INDUCTION and pointing at a DC effect and a possible source for that kind of effect. A nuclear explosion as possible source has that effect and is known as EMP apart from all other kinds of radiation – or frequencies for that matter – and can be so strong that it can knock planes out of the sky. How that? The buildup of the magnetic field is one single pulse and can induce electricity in all electric wiring in and kind of device and is a major part of military and civilian concern. All electrical devices have to hardened, that is to have some kind or protective shielding. But the wiring in our homes, in the street and leading to the camera are not protected. An extreme EMP not only produces a current, it produces heat, and any excess of both leads up to a worst case scenario. Microchips are sensitive to both and work only within a certain temperature window. Think of all the satellites in space environment that depend on temperature conditions to even function properly. How does a microchip function at minus 50 degrees celcius – for example a laptop on expedition to the south pole?

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 13, 2016 at 8:39 pm

      kaho, And I can even go on from there now, because it was Ian who brought up the subject believing that that very first flare on an image is PROOF of a kind of fission-fusion. Let me get into that part of the scene again.
      Have you ever heard of Frauenhofer’sche lines? How did science first discover the element HELIUM on the sun long before it was discovered here on earth? Through photography. How does science find out how other suns in the universe are composed of? Through photography. And how is that done?
      By using a prisma to break up light into a spectrum better known as a rainbow from the lowest frequency red to the highest being violett. And every single element has it’s very own fingerprint within those colors and appear as lines at a specific frequency and can thus be identified. Now try to identify the specific line for a specific element on a ccd. Do you think that is possible? What are knowns and what are the unknowns on the video we have have been discussing from the very beginning? The amplitude of the flare? Thats one thing. I haven’t looked into the histogram of the image colors yet and one reason is I still don’t have a pure and uncompressed version of the original footage. I now found out the original at USLaunchReport is 4k in size and runs 29.97. Everything else available on the net is watered down anywhere from 720p downward and distorted.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 13, 2016 at 9:20 pm

      kaho, So I hope by now that I have been able to point out some of the basic components and know-how needed to be on the safe side of the assumptions surrounding the initial cause of the explosion. And by that I mean only by looking and analysing a video clip. There are even two parts of the event, the images and the sound track. Let me demonstrate even why the sound track is of so much importance. So I’ll go back to DC first. If EMP is involved then there will inevetably be a distinct induction of electricity in any wiring of the recording systems involved. First: the EMP signal will appear the very exact moment the first explosion occured, that is 12,3 seconds before the sound of the first blast reaches it. The most exposed and vulnerable part of equipment is the MICROPHONE involved. It’s recording does not rely on being cut up into single images, but is a continuous flow of digital information, the smallest part being the frequency level of 42000 Hz, that is CD quality. And what is the frequency range during capturing a video image in the process: lousy 30 Hz. That’s the timeline, that’s the math and the science that goes along with it.

    • kaho  September 14, 2016 at 2:14 am

      Peter Paul, I posted the link to Walter Lewin’s demo, in order to emphasize, the difference between analog technology and digital technology. The video cameras used now, with their CCD chips work with digital technology, and the frames we were looking at are digital images, represented as files consisting of zeroes and ones, that are stored in digital registers on digital memory chips
      Of course the underlying technology is still analog where the Kirchhoff circuit rules still rule the day. But the electronic flip-flop cells that store the bits and bytes make sure that the conveyed information has a fundamental digital character.

    • kaho  September 14, 2016 at 2:17 am

      So the point we agree upon is that a rapid change in magnetic flux density can cause voltages that blow out or damage essential electronic circuitry. But what I do not understand (yet) is how this can cause such systematic changes in the digital information that represents the picture frames, where the image-lines are pushed left and right after a sinusoidal profile. What I would have expected instead, would be a much more chaotic effect.

      In effect the video recorder seems to be working just fine, except for the systematic vertical misalignments of the horizontal pixel lines. That’s why I wanted to see if a hypothetical EM pulse might have some effect on the little quartz crystal that determines the clock frequency.

      In the bygone days of analog technology, a magnetically caused distortion of the TV picture is perfectly understandable. But for a digital system? That is the rub.

    • kaho  September 14, 2016 at 2:27 am

      By the way, did you see the seismic data graphs of the event? The data from three seismic stations were posted on FaceBook. I think you can retrieve the graphs by gugling for «Amos 6 seismic», and also here :

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 14, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      kaho, thank you very much for your feedback. Even though I do not know who you are, where you are and what your true ambitions might be, I can now read from your words, that you have a deeper understanding concerning the whole matter than the average person and are eager to dive into the unknown depths that is not even quite clear as we go along with comparing the known facts to get to a true solution.
      To tell you one thing beforehand I have been working nonstop on a video presentation since 01:30 pm last night and now it is 21:00 pm. I hope to be finished with this video in the next few hours and upload it to my channel because it is getting close to 24h that I’ve been sitting in front of my screen. I hope to be able to answer at least a few of your questions that are very relevant and important for a realistic evaluation of the material we both are analyzing. Please take into consideration that I go about my analysis as if the video we are all acquainted with thanks to Ian is to me as if I am looking and investigating into the voice recording of a 747 that has disintegrated before our very eyes. Number of casualties: Unknown. My job: pick up the pieces, the leftovers and report to the oldest tree in the forest what you discovered…. and wait for my upload.

    • kaho  September 14, 2016 at 4:35 pm

      Peter Paul, It is me who must thank you. For your well made video, as well as your amazing discovery of the distorted video image.

      BTW If you are in the process of creating a new video about the incident, why don’t you include the image of the seismic signals in your video. It is still there, at the URL I posted yesterday :
      t t p s://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsBftxaW8AANbB1.jpg:orig
      ( If you append “:orig” you will get the jpg in a higher resolution than if you don’t )
      I also checked out the URL Chris posted here on VT some days ago. The second of the URL’s he gave has about twice as many images as most of the other versions of the videos that are available.
      BTW The version I downloaded for my pixel-analysis of the object’s speed isn’t there any more. So it is true that many of these videos do disappear after a while.

      In my school days I read three books that influenced me. One was the book by James A. Coleman on relativity theory, The other one was the one by Einstein and Infeld «Die Evolution der Physik», and the third one was a translation of «Das Naturbild der heutigen Physik» by Werner Heisenberg. Later on I was also lucky enough to attend a lecture he held just a few years before he was gone. You can still get these books online. I always recommend them. But in these our hectic days very few seem to have time to read books any more. It’s all net based reading now.

  8. musicalchemy  September 13, 2016 at 1:24 am

    Peter Paul 1950, we cannot see light because we are light

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 13, 2016 at 1:39 am

      musicalchemy, thanks for the reminder, I’m quite aware of that. Trouble is we have to go beyond the clouds of unknowing to uncover who we are. But to get there you have to climb your mountain. Cheers.

  9. Peter Paul 1950  September 12, 2016 at 7:28 pm

    Let me drop a little tiny bomb here…
    Ian, may I bring something to your attention that nobody as of yet seems to have noticed or ever mentioned although it’s what I would recognize as the “smoking gun” or rather the “crackling geiger counter”? It is truly not only a “mind bending” indication that something quite unusual occoured in plain sight but is even screaming out loud for a valid explanation. Let me point out that something happened while everyone has been distracted and are starting to run after the birds and the bees and little tin cans that happen to be of more interest than what AMOS had to chip in on information. All you have to do is leave that Phantom Blob fly off to where it was last seen and go 6 more seconds beyond the boom and watch and hear what AMOS has to add to your x-ray theory.

    • kaho  September 12, 2016 at 10:35 pm

      My take is that during that short fraction of a second the video frames show mechanical oscillations of the two towers. Each of the two towers displays a sinusoidal vibratory mode. The phenomenon lasts just a fraction of a second because such vibrations are damped due to internal friction of the material the towers are made from, which I assume is a steel framework. Some years ago I studied transverse wave motion of elastic beams, and the solution of the differential equation included motion of the same sinusoidal shape you can see in this video.

      But I had not noticed this phenomenon before you pointed it out just now. Thank you very much!
      But I did – of course – notice the shaking image, which I interpreted as vibrations of the camera. But a shaking camera can of course not explain the brief sinusoidal deformation of the towers.

      What I notice though, is that in addition to the brief deformation of the towers there is a simultaneous up and down motion of the ground, which is not so easily explained, except as an up and down motion of the camera. But why would the ground under the camera move up and down simultaneously with the whip-like transverse motion of the towers? After all, the towers are removed about 4 km from the camera. This I think might be explainable as the result of a seismic surface wave. Such waves travel maybe 10 times as fast as sound waves in air. Hence they would arrive at the site of the camera only a second or so after the shock that caused them.

    • Ian Greenhalgh  September 12, 2016 at 11:50 pm

      I’ve forwarded this to Jeff to see what he thinks.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 13, 2016 at 1:06 am

      kaho, there are mechanical vibrations through the earthquakes, the pressurizing of the air, the resonating of the shockwaves that cause the camera to shake violently, but not enough to bend these towers. What you see is what we call a glitch in the electronics. Due to an electromagnetic pulse the flow of electrons are either blocked by the incoming magnetic field and act as a resister. The flow in the circuit is pushed back on one side and accelerated on the other. This means the incoming digital line of signals are delayed as the induction wave passes thru. The whole timing based on clocking the optical impulses to be delivered at the right time is distorted. Not the towers are being bent, the digital impulses are being pushed around within the circuit. It’s comparable with a tide or tsunamie forcing itself up a river and then retracting. That happens in all of the exposed microchips and even in the ccd. Since there are literally millions of microcircuits the regular or even flow of electricity doesn’t take place.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 13, 2016 at 1:26 am

      In realtime it is hardly noticable because I’ve pointed out that we only see at the rate of 18-20 images per second whereas the screen is shooting 30 images per second at you. The imaging process and display are tuned to their own frequencies that when a magnetic disturbance occurs, that is why there is a stretching and squeezing of the process in all directions. And if any hard radiation is involved then that too knocks off extra electrons causing effects like noise in the image that appear as speckles. And radiation has a nasty clicking sound to it if you’ve ever listened to a geiger counter. But it just so happens that the many acoustic explosions and echos with all their natural harmonies (quint, octave, terz) drown that nasty clicking swoosh that can be faintly heard at 1:19 in the slomo. I’m still trying to filter it with my sound editor to make it more audible if possible. But I need more time for that. So I repeat that not the towers were physically bent, it’s within the electronic that this visible ‘bending’ occurs. Those are electromagnetic fingerprints of an EMP. Period. And I have all the reason in the world to believe that AMOS has an RTG. Thanks for your patience.

  10. Raptor  September 12, 2016 at 5:34 am

    What is the latest on this debacle? All major media are opening interviews with phrases such as ” there are internet conspiracy theories that claim the rocket was hit by a drone ” anyway I find that telling as a means of poison for the well. Laughable in a sense.


    • Agin  September 12, 2016 at 7:25 am

      A.) Musk is in on it. A Holy Wood-esque psyop just in time for the 15th anniversary of 9-11 and the “Cold War” with Russia and China. A chance to test new technology.
      B.) Payback for 9-11 against the KM, Israel, USAF, and JINSA by another faction. A chance to test new technology.
      C.) Payback/Deterrence against Israel for selling US tech to China (again) as well as payback against China for shooting down a US satellite (among other things such as wanting secure vast amounts of helium 3 on the Dark Side of the Moon for nuclear fusion).
      D.) Aliens. Enki vs Enlil.
      E.) An accident.

  11. Peter Paul 1950  September 12, 2016 at 5:25 am

    Ian, I hope you understand my personal approach to the subject you brought up that I too have a keen interest of what truly might have been the cause of the explosion, but my methodology is to examine and eliminate possible flaws in the line of information presented. Just believing that x-rays are involved because there seems to be visible proof is not enough when one can’t cancel out how things really function.
    For example we humans see with a speed rate of around 18 images per second. Birds have a rate of up to 200 images per second. The processes involved just to have that ability is difficult to understand in all of it’s complexity and yet we use it without thinking about it. Yet we are so focused on the inventions around us that give us the possibility to capture and store images and sound and send them around the world in seconds. But do we really know and understand how each and every part of equipment involved really works and functions? There are so many different levels of technology reaching outside of our realms of perception that go down to the level of atoms and molecules and make it possible to stretch the imagination into unknown and uncharted universes of life beyond life. Aren’t we just playing with all these ideas and possibilities trying to make sense of it all? A rocket explodes in a blinding moment and now we need more light. You know I have to give you credit for just bringing this information up to the level it now has.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 12, 2016 at 5:34 am

      And to add a more philosophical touch to this great comment section I’d like to chip in these relatively unimportant words:
      An incredible family named Stein,
      There’s Gertrud, there’s Ep and there’s Ein
      Gertrude’s writing is hazy
      and Ep is plain crazy
      but nobody understands Ein

    • kaho  September 12, 2016 at 10:34 am

      I agree with you. Credit goes out to Ian for taking up these odd events, and bringing them up to a level where we can «nachvollziehen» at least some of it. For example he mentioned a process, or an idea, an invention if you like, called Teller-Ulam. Well of course I had heard about Edward Teller, but not Ulam as far as I can recall.

      Besides, the majority of physics textbooks mention very little, if anything at all, about nuclear explosive devices, and with good reason. Well, they always include some chapters about nuclear reactors, that’s for sure. But for there rest … very little. And that is as it should be, God forbid that such terrors should fall into the wrong hands. But we as humans should pay attention. That’s the best way to to stay clear of trouble.

      And so now thanks to Ian I became motivated me to look into things I had not paid much attention to before. In particuliar I thought the Wikipedia article «History of the Teller–Ulam design» was worth while, also «Kernwaffentechnik» at the German Wikipedia site, or even the Cardozo Law Review article »fas org / sgp / eprint / cardozo,html».

  12. drbhelthi  September 12, 2016 at 1:46 am

    My concern relates with the quasi-denial of “UFOs”. My initial confirmation of such vehicles derived from the USAF radar facility on Fire Island, Alaska, 1955. An object appeared over the station, hovered at 2,000 ft., then accelerated to 10,000 ft with one sweep of the radar, at the time equalling 3,000 mph. In 1977 a USAF MSG explained to me the hangar on Wright-Patterson USAF base, that was guarded by AP with loaded weapons.
    Another interest since childhood is adults under the influence of alcohol. When “drunk,” if they can still talk intelligibly, they typically do not lie, although at times with disjointed speech. The following link is a video by a very sober neighbor of a retired, Area 51 employee. When sober, the retired employee revealed nothing about Area 51. After a power outage one night he was drunk and talked, revealing some experiences. The neighbor reveals the expose´ of the drunken, retired Area 51 employee. The neighbor´s presentation appears to be candid and reliable, drawing on my experience. The “propulsion” function of these vehicles is also nicely clarified in a few words by the retired, AREA 51 worker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx6QMj-yOU4

    • Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  September 12, 2016 at 9:57 am

      Dr. B: Of course, “UFOs” are real — unless you can identify ALL flying objects. But that’s not it, is it?

      More to the point: No one at VT is denying or quasi-denying the existence of non-terrestrials. All that Ian & Jeff are saying is that there is a more terrestrial explanation for what happened to the SpaceX rocket.

      The object that you saw over Alaska in 1955 was probably a German craft or an early German-American craft, based on the research & discoveries of the Germans before, during after WW2.

      In Operation Paperclip, the German scientists were eventually able to harness the R&D and productive capacity of the U.S. to continue this R&D and production in a secret space program.

      If or since most if not all “UFOs” are man-made, why couldn’t or wouldn’t the U.S. military “inoculate” Area 51 guys with a sufficient amount of B.S. to go along with whatever truths that they might know?

    • drbhelthi  September 21, 2016 at 7:50 am

      Dr.A-B: after some re-reads, comparing the first article with the follow-on article and the summary paragraph of this article, your “is it?” seems very appropriate to me.
      If your conclusion as to who built the majority of UFOs is accurate, you have access to information that I can not access.
      Yes, I knew of Hitler´s scientists´ creations from Austrian documents that once were available a few years ago. Also, the various documents about Antartica by various authors reveal useful information.

  13. Agin  September 11, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    Or one could simply call it a “djedi mind trick”.

  14. PeterAG  September 11, 2016 at 6:18 pm

    Appart from being absorbed on the way Xrays ionize the air and create a plasma precluding its use in the way suggested. They need a high vacuum. Fusion experiment with visible lasers are highly controlled regarding an intensive focal spot in order to produce the high temperatures. When xrays have to penetrate an extremely chaotic plasma they will most likely diverge appart from being strongly absorbed and thus not maintain the needed narrow beamwidth to achieve high temperatures.

    • kaho  September 12, 2016 at 2:03 am

      That would be like Compton scattering, right?

  15. kaho  September 11, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    With regard to the absorption of X-rays in the atmosphere, it is well known among astronomers that X-ray telescopes used to gather information about distant astronomical objects, do not work down here on the ground level, because the atmosphere is thick enough to stop nearly everything. There is a nice diagram that gives a good illustration of the EM «windows» available to us humans here down on the Earth’s ground level :

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 12, 2016 at 7:21 am

      kaho, nice find you put up there. May I point out that it is also known among many more that our atmosphere shields us also from all the different rays emitted from the sun, our largest source of energy of all kinds pounding down on us every day. Just think of ultra violet beyond our spectrum of visibility that can cause so much harm to our health when we are exposed to an excess of it. It is said that bees have the ability to ‘see’ it, but can we really prove it to be so? Maybe we just have to believe what is said and written down on paper about the birds and the bees and the flowers that seem to glow in that range of electromagnetic frequencies.
      But Ian has emphasized x-ray LASER beams that possibly have other physical properties that bypass the shield of atmosphere that we are not truly aware of. The definition of x-ray refers to any kind of radiation that is beyond our human perception. And they are vibrations or frequencies on an infinite scale. When laser was first introduced to the public in the 60s it became the great sensation all over the world. Why? Because of it’s imaginable use as a weapon. Today it is almost a standard tool in the metal industry. A cutting edge tool. Do you realize that we cannot even see light? We only recognize it’s interaction on solid objects.

  16. Agin  September 11, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    Harold Saive: Indeed, many possibilities. The Nvidia crop circle publicity stunt comes to mind. Also, consider this: “The use of a light bending nanotechnology fabric for so called quantum stealth camouflage.”

    The rumors of Russia threatening to release satellite images of 9-11. Israel fires at Russian drone over Golan Heights. Falcon rocket with Israeli tech destroyed 10 days before the 15th anniversary of 9-11. Putin’s driver has a head on collision 5 days later. Too much speculation but perhaps useful to some.

  17. ManCavePatriot  September 11, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    My WAG would be that the SpaceX rocket carrying the space.com satellite was ‘interrupted’ by Obama because he did not want to see a successful launch and ultimate sale to China, which was being completed contingent on lift-off. This scenario ties in perfectly with the following weeks AFOne diplomatic middle-finger on a Chinese tarmac.

  18. Harold Saive  September 11, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    The ultimate punk is for Elon et al to CGI a fake orb into a video of a fireball mishap. This scenario must be considered after all we know about image manipulation of 9/11 and green-screens at CNN…and Elon’s request for help decoding the event.

  19. Leno  September 11, 2016 at 2:31 pm

    Remember this is the guy who said he wanted to nuke Mars. Mars Attacks?

  20. Agin  September 11, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    Politically, Musk has described himself as “half Democrat, half Republican”. In his own words: “I’m somewhere in the middle, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.”[116]

    Musk is a self-described American exceptionalist and nationalist, describing himself as “nauseatingly pro-American”. According to Musk, the United States is “[inarguably] the greatest country that has ever existed on Earth”, describing it as “the greatest force for good of any country that’s ever been”. Musk believes outright that there “would not be democracy in the world if not for the United States”, arguing there were “three separate occasions in the 20th-century where democracy would have fallen with World War I, World War II and the Cold War, if not for the United States”.[117]

  21. Agin  September 11, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    Elon (אֵילוֹן in Hebrew), is a Jewish surname or masculine given name, which means “tree” or “oak tree” in the Hebrew language.

    Elon was a biblical leader of the Israelites in the Book of Judges.

    Elon, a son of Zebulun who migrated to Egypt with Jacob.

    The report further noted that “Musk himself has donated roughly US$725,000 to various campaigns since 2002. In 2004, he contributed US$2,000 to President George W. Bush’s reelection campaign, maxing out (over US$100,000)[120] to Obama’s reelection campaign and donated US$5,000 to Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, who represents Florida, a state critical to the space industry …

    Musk had been a supporter of the U.S. political action committee FWD.us, which was started by fellow high-profile entrepreneur Mark Zuckerberg and advocates for immigration reform. However, in May 2013, Musk publicly withdrew his support in protest of advertisements the PAC was running that supported causes like the Keystone Pipeline.

  22. Agin  September 11, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    I understand Mr. Greenhalgh does not necessarily care for the “esoteric”, but I will add this anyway. For those with imagination. Names have been changed to protect the innocent/guilty…

    Batman [Dark Knight] V Superman [Stalin]:

    “LexCorp Industries Reveals Wayne Enterprises Satellite Photo

    Who knew Lex Luthor cared about clean energy so much? To be fair, he probably doesn’t, but he sure wants you to think he does.

    A stunning image from the Wayne Enterprises satellite from 2013, only days before it lost signal. The brightest sections that can be seen are Metropolis and Gotham. Our cities are the number one consumers of wasted electricity in the world. Courtesy of Wayne Enterprises™

    The satellite was destroyed in the final fight between Superman and Zod (in Man of Steel), but before it lost signal it sent out a photo that shows just how much electricity is used and wasted by both Metropolis and Gotham.”

    Best wishes.

  23. kaho  September 11, 2016 at 7:48 am

    I still need to process the data I wrote down in the comment section of the previous SpaceX article :
    Image | x | y |
    1 | 2109 | 197 |
    2 | 1765 | 200 |
    3 | 1434 | 207 |
    4 | 1112 | 215 |
    5 | 794 | 212 |
    I then used, as indicated, 1048 pix = 70 m, to convert the pix-values to meters,
    For the horizontal motion (x-values) I then obtain the horizontal distances traveled in each of the four available time intervals of 0.04 seconds each – corresponding to the 25 frames per second that VLC’s info-window listed. The four x-intervals then have the lengths
    -22.98 m, -22.11 m, -21.51 m, -21.24 m.
    And the resulting speeds (obtained by dividing by 0.04 s) are
    574.5 m/s, 552.75 m/s, 537.75 m/s, 531.00 m/s, where the uncertainty is in the fourth digit because positions are accurate to only to maybe a pixel or two.
    These speed values are finally converted to km/h by multiplying with 3.6, giving the average horizontal speed in each time interval : 2068 km/h, 1990 km/h, 1936 km/h, 1912 km/h. Now try to calculate the average (negative) acceleration in each time interval. You get a very big value ! ( Compare with g = 9.81 m/s^2)

    • Chris Essonne  September 11, 2016 at 8:14 am

      Some fixes needed : 522 px = 70 m, and frame rate is 29.97 in original video at normal speed. slow motion video doubles the number of images, thus close to 60 frames/s.

      Yes, acceleration between points gives huge unstable values. I think the result is very sensitive because of the precision. I prefer determine only the average acceleration between entry and exit, and this gives 200 g which is already a lot…

    • kaho  September 11, 2016 at 11:21 am

      The video I used was a different version from the video you used.
      The video I downloaded from brightcove (I gave the link earlier), has 25 frames per second.
      The video you used for your work contained more in-between images.
      What I did was to stop the VLC player, and then move forward frame by frame by means of the «E»-button. Then I made screen copies of each frame after having activated “full screen”. Hence my images have more pixels than yours (but fewer images). And so 1048 pixels = 70 m is correct the correct value here, because GraphicConverter (by Lemke Soft) allows one to count pixels by means of the rulers. The rulers in GraphicConverter use pixels as unit. And I wrote down the pixel-coordinates very carefully.

      I took a look at your Youtube video btw. Very nice work. And it would be very nice if you could quote your source for the video. Thank you !

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 11:29 am

      So now I got my first ever clip up and running on you tube concerning:
      FalconX and the Flight of the Mystery Blob
      Please take note that I made the blob stationary to the y axis so that the background is moving from left to right. That way it is possible to notice the details around the object so you can reduce the movement of the eyeballs to a minimum and also at the same time avoid that typical no no syndrome one can see at any grand slam tournament where everyone is just sitting there watching a round furry ball whizzing to and fro. Enjoy and any comments are welcome.

    • Chris Essonne  September 11, 2016 at 11:58 am

      For normal speed, I used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BgJEXQkjNQ
      For slow motion, I used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXqG-R8O39g
      But I recommend you to download my video and extract images of the slow motion part.
      Last item of Video Menu stores a frame into an image without changing resolution.
      It is also possible in View/Advanced Control to activate a small toolbar where a button directly stores the current frame.
      My spreadsheet is visible on my fb page.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 12:05 pm

      Chris, you could be quite right about the true frame rate being 29,97 of an original copy. But your’re not correct about the doubling the frame rate. I already pointed out why on Ian’s previous article here on VT
      space-xplosion-no-ufos-aliens-or-other-wierdness-involved/ – have a look at my comments there.
      The timeline steps are one part of the sequence, the other is the duration of a single frame! When you add a still image and set it’s duration to maybe 5 seconds it just happens that it may not end at the sequence mark set by the frame rate. What the codec does is what we call a frame drop, it extends that image till the the next time mark is due and thereby stretching the still image over an existing frame and thereby leaving it unprocessed and ignores it altogether. That’s what saves resources.
      If you say you have extended the clip to 60 fps up from 30 fps that is not the way it works. In reality you are stretching a single frame by doubling the length of time the image is on the screen. Tipping thru the frames one by one is tipping along the timeline whereas the software will only change the areas of a frame that differ from the previous one. If there is no change nothing is moving. It’s the capturing of the video that counts to get a higher frame rate.

    • kaho  September 11, 2016 at 12:27 pm

      I did download some Youtube videos a couple of years ago, but of late I have not been able to do it
      (after they switched to the new html video capability). But Youtube videos, do they come with 60 frames per second? The only hi-res images of the SpaceX video I was able to locate were posted on Chinese and Russian web sites! In the West I find only the low-res ones. What browser do you use?

    • Harold Saive  September 11, 2016 at 4:09 pm

      See my slow-mo video X 10 and X 100 revealing UFO departing launch area – UFO seen departing the scene from lower left to upper right following onset of explosion.

    • Chris Essonne  September 12, 2016 at 11:53 am

      to Peter Paul
      I started to work with the video at normal speed and VLC states 29.97 frames/s, easily checked by cliking 30 times on the image/image button, checking video time. I extracted the 8 frames with the object and noted object position in each of them.
      A few days later, I discovered the video at slow motion x 250, and extracted the 16 frames with the object. In 8 frames, the position was the same than in the 8 previous frames, and the 8 other frames have intermediate position, so I concluded that frame rate was 60. What’s wrong ?

  24. Detlef Reimers  September 11, 2016 at 7:26 am

    OK, VT doesn’t like links, so I have to leave out the first part of the link to Mathis:


    • Jim W. Dean, Managing Editor  September 11, 2016 at 9:49 am

      We do links… but not “blind links”. What is at the link HAS to be described in the comment, and that does not included “go here” or ” this is good”. We are one of the few sites that do allow links because people often have good ones. Thanks.

  25. Detlef Reimers  September 11, 2016 at 7:24 am

    Ian, it’s always funny to see these spooks come up at special places to feed the minds of the people with crap. This is their main job, thereby never reveiling their real intents.

    I like the nice round up about this spooky character Musk, done by Miles Mathis here: and you’ll also find some good thoughts about those strange X-people on his site.

    Aliens, Ufos, non earth like entities, what a nice ensemble when it should be logical to look for some more earthly perpetrators first, as you rightfully mentioned.

    Thanks for the update, especially from Jeff. We need that kind of information, let the spooks out there eat their own crap.

  26. kaho  September 11, 2016 at 6:25 am

    With regard to the «flare», or star burst, as they often call it, there is a good explanation of this phenomenon in a presentation called «How to Capture a Starburst in Your Photos» (CreativeLive com) :
    The flares are, in other words, caused by mainly by the configuration of the aperture blades inside the camera’s lens.

    • Ian Greenhalgh  September 11, 2016 at 6:44 am

      It’s not a lens flare caused by visible light, those look quite different. This one is caused by x-rays.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 10:32 am

      Ian, I understand quite well what your getting at since I learned my original trade at IBM. As a Galvaniser we not only had a phantastic laboratory to work in, we had to go on rotation through the whole production line of producing chips as well. The actual definition of the trade was later turned into Electro-Chemist due to the wide scope of electronics and chemistry. In the major ‘secret’ development departments we were also introduced to some of the most sophisticated equipment in use you can imagine. Even x-rays that were used to radiate through the silicium slices called waffers to check the crystal structure. On the exposed film one could clearly identify the grid structure of the atoms.
      Since the digital age we have the ccds (charged couple device) that gathers the light instead of on film and they are by nature sensitive to electromagnetic pulses. That’s why they have to be hardened by some protective shield around them. The ccd is nothing else than a microscopic array of photo diodes that react to light and can be produced for different invisible wavelengths. Just look at infrared or ultraviolet beyond our very thin capabilties of visible light. The flare can also have to do with the geometric array of die diodes of the ccd.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 10:50 am

      And the explosion itself wouldn’t be half as interesting it weren’t for the Phantom Blob everyone’s trying to explain away. I just spent the whole day pushing it around and made a short clip to study just the movement alone. I’ll be posting it on you tube as soon as I get my account set up.

    • kaho  September 11, 2016 at 12:02 pm

      X-rays are electromagnetic waves, just like the light we can see with our eyes, but of a much shorter wave length. We, as humans are very lucky that air is transparent to EM waves in the visible range, for it allows us to see distant objects. Not necessarily so when it comes to the X-rays. For they are attenuated as they move through air. But the attenuation length depends on their wave length. One also distinguishes between hard X-rays and soft X-rays. The hard ones have a much shorter wavelength than the soft ones.

      There is a web site (web-docs.gsi.de) where they have set up an «X-Ray attenuation & absorption calculator», where the X-ray photonic energies are expressed in kilo electron Volts (keV), instead of using the wave length. But the thickness of the absorption layer has to be described in millimeters !

      I entered first a thousand millimeters corresponding to 1 m, and indeed X-ays did get through as I specified «air» for the material. But then I entered 1000000 mm (6 zeroes) corresponding to 1 kilometer, and almost nothing got through! I tried energies ranging from 10 keV up to a thousand keV.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 1:34 pm

      kaho, yes you’re quite right about the electromagnetic natur in and around us, but that was Ian’s intention to get feedback with his x-ray vision. Every writer who wants to get attention has to produce at least some kind of meaning to the subject and Falcon 9 just gave him the best opportunity so speak his mind and be sure of an audience And that nasty little blob is giving others a greater chance to chip in with their extraterrestrial views and blues.
      If these were the days of Chernobyl in 1986 it wouldn’t even be doubted by anyone that could count to three. That was 30 years ago and here in Germany we are still not allowed to collect mushrooms or eat wild boar. Ian wouldn’t have the slightest problem proving his views either. I remember several docus that were revealed many years later. There exist films documenting the evacuation the following days after the explosion. You can clearly see the blobs on those frames of the film that were being hit by hot radiation and were overexposed. That way the proof was conserved over the years and if I recall correctly there could be some copies on you tube. From that one blast we just don’t have that kind of hardcopy that can be presented. A ccd just gets that extra impuls and the diodes go haywire for a few milliseconds but the stream of electrons don’t stay put for further interrogation. I am being exposed to radiation every day since.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 2:08 pm

      And to add to Chernobyl being so far off in the Ukraine doesn’t mean I’m ignorant of any kind of possabilties. I’m suffering from an underactive thyroid gland and need 200 mg of thyroxide a day. Look at Fukushima and study why people there are having the same problems. It’s major cause appears to be Caesium.
      Last week exactly the same time Falcon 9 had it’s bad day I was hit by several blasts of x-rays. I was out that evening and had a sudden blackout. The only thing I can hardly remember was that the people there called an ambulance and sometime later I remember talking to a woman who was trying to explain to me she had to make a couple of x-rays of my chest and neck. When I woke up Friday morning it slowly dawned on me that I was lying in a hospital bed. I got my fair share of x-rays for the day and went back home only to discover that here on VT x-rays were flying all around somewhere else. Do you know a safe place where I can take off my tin foil hat and breath some clean fresh air without those blobs flying around head?
      I’m just recovering from a major heart attack I had on May 30th and where they made some minor adjustments to the flow of body liquids by inserting 6 new stents to the one I already had. So feel with Ian and poor Falcon 9 who just didn’t make it while I’m having the time of my life. Sarcasm? What, me worry?

    • kaho  September 11, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      Peter, you are right. In fact, I already saw a note explaining that the rectangular array of photo diodes will, under certain circumstances, function as a diffraction grating. This will cause the different wavelengths (colors) to be sent back at different angles, and then you will see different colors like small rainbows. But I do not know the exact details of this. The diffraction gratings I am used to, have light going in on one side, and come out at the other.
      In the video the flares form a shape like a huge letter X. Hence the number four is important here. Most cameras have 5 or 6 aperture blades, and then you will see 5 or 6 rays (double for odd numbers). But here you see only four. Could that be a typical feature of some of the newer video cameras?

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 12, 2016 at 4:09 am

      kaho, Yes, you are getting very close to my point of view concerning that flare. In my opinion based on the fact that I had a great deal to do with the production of chips on an every day basis. I have to emphasize that I was then introduced to so much technology that was considered top secret. From the production line to the end product itself silicium chips the whole thing is based on miniaturizing electronics for special purposes. Because we are in the realm of atoms and their electric properties they are extremely vulnerable to static overload. That situation is also known as over exposure.
      Ian has brought up the subject concerning the flare, that’s fair enough. But to get a better understanding how it was produced you have to bear in mind he is pointing at an emitting source of energy he believes to be there, whereas I am pointing to the receiver of this energy: the ccd chip. The physical phenomena involved for transforming that source are ‘photovoltaic’ and piezoelectricity. The visible product we are all looking at is a realigned array of pixels that are visible to the human eye. The camera is the interface and transformer. Looking at that flare I tend to believe the array on the ccd is not square but hexagonal like a honeycomb. I haven’t measured it out if coincides with 60 degrees yet because I didn’t around to that yet.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 12, 2016 at 4:28 am

      keho, Then there is one more thing I tried to point out earlier in this whole debate concerning the ‘FLARE’ and that an X-RAY BURST causes more havoc that would be registered by the microchips involved and that is the SOUND track. I analyzed it quite closely because it is pure CD quality. Where is the electronic CLICK that can be HEARD if it really was an x-ray burst? There is none. Of all the pictures you could present to me I would always want to have the sound track that goes with it.
      If x-rays were really involved then their also should be a whole array of frequencies that go along with it that would create an electromagnetic pulse in any unprotected equipment in and around the recording devices in use. And that would inevitably cause a clear and audible interruption in the MICROPHONE, the most unprotected instrument out there. So where is the click I ask?

  27. Spiritual Warrior  September 11, 2016 at 5:01 am

    So it’s good ole corporate competition? If that’s the case then ‘Obama ordered the destruction of the rocket ‘claim is incorrect and his snub at the G20 was for other reasons. And then we have Lockheed Martin and Boeing controlling the military’s most advanced classified technology that is not known to the public.

  28. Raptor  September 11, 2016 at 4:30 am

    My conclusion is this: Musk works near to the field and as a result my opinion is that he most likely KNOWS what it was, who did it, and why. The rest is a veiled effort to distract the masses.

    To Chris above: Thanks for the video however, how far is the rocket from the tower/pads located closest to the camera? Would that not alter your formula? Especially when it comes to scale..



    • Chris Essonne  September 11, 2016 at 4:57 am

      Good question Raptor !
      Sound of the explosion needs 12s to arrive, so SpaceX is 4000 m away.
      My model does not use these towers only distance of SpaceX matters.
      A z depth of about 120m around SpaceX affects resolution only by 3%, negligible…

  29. Chris Essonne  September 11, 2016 at 2:58 am

    My analysis in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIude2CtniI
    Hope it will help !

    • Chris Essonne  September 11, 2016 at 4:37 am

      A few typos fixed, corrected link is this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5yP3KiNs8Q

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 5:32 am

      Great stuff Chris, just had to give it a thumbs up. Hope you don’t mind that I enjoyed it and downloaded it for my private and secret archive. But one thing I’d like to ask is, does it really need that dramatic music to make it all that more appealing? Not that the music is disturbing to me – I studied classical music myself along the way and was a teacher for classical guitar for almost twenty years – but it distracted me from some of the essential parts of the math involved. Since I’m also an artist I’m very well acquainted with working kind of slomo – sometimes like 1 fpm or half that speed. In some cases I’ve even made it to up to 5-10 fpd and more. But nowadays it’s more like maybe 1-2 fpy. Here is one of my older galleries if you care to have a look:
      If you read further down this comment section I uploaded the frames in question for those who might have trouble extracting them by themselves. For those who didn’t quite understand what I was just pointing at the translation and equation goes like this: fpm = frames per month, fpy = frames per year and fpd = frames per day. Does it sound okay when I mute the music…?

    • Chris Essonne  September 11, 2016 at 9:45 am

      A screenshot of my datasheet is available on my fb page (Chris Essonne)

    • Harold Saive  September 11, 2016 at 4:29 pm

      Video removed

    • Chris Essonne  September 12, 2016 at 11:45 am

      Yes I removed initial link after fixing a few typos. New link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5yP3KiNs8Q

  30. kaho  September 11, 2016 at 1:01 am

    Thank you for your additional explanations !

    One difficulty that ought to be apparent, is that alpha-particles (Helium nuclei) are very stable. One might guess as much, noting the fact that the alpha-particle is one of the typical end product of nuclear reactions. In fact, radioactivity consists mainly of alpha- beta- and gamma-rays.

    More specifically, one might calculate the mass difference “Delta m” between an alpha-particle and two deuterons. If one then multiplies the mass difference by the speed of light squared (c^2), the famous Einstein formula E = m*c^2 will give the energy a gamma-photon must possess in order to split the alpha-particle into two deuterons.

    In particular, it is here of interest to calculate the gamma-photon’s frequency and wavelength, in order to get an idea of the scale of things. The equations one uses to find frequency “nu” and wavelength “lambda” are :::: E = h * nu ::::: and ::::: lambda*nu = c ::::: , where h = Planck’s constant and c = the speed of light.

  31. Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 12:25 am

    Ian, very good explanation of your x-ray theory indeed. I think the discussion is needed and welcomed by the open minded to better understand the dots and connections. You may have noticed that I’m focused on that blob fly-by and the 16 frames involved and that thy coincide with the moment of the ignition. Now that I’ve been seeing each and every frame for hours on end it is very obvious that the explosion must have started outside of the rocket. During the explosion you might notice parts flying upwards that can’t possibly have come from the inside of the rocket as the satellite itself remains almost unmoved and topples downward almost 12 sec later. And as it appears hits the ground still in one piece coinciding nicely with the incoming blast. During those seconds there is a large piece of debris flying straight up over the flames between the rocket and it’s tower that consider it a dead giveaway that the fueling system and procedure are the issue.
    If the containers inside the rocket had of been the initial source of the explosion the following scenario would have looked quite different. There would have been much more debris flying around in all directions and the payload would have dropped off much sooner along the timeline. The sound track is very revealing because you actually hear a whole series of different explosions going off hidden by the fire and that nasty but unavoidable ‘smokescreen’ that tends to surround such mysterious events.

    • Ian Greenhalgh  September 11, 2016 at 12:52 am

      One big problem with analysing the available video is that it is all in the MPEG format which does not store every frame. Only a few frames are stored in their entirety and the majority of frame data is in the form of i-frames. The fuelling system could not be the source of the explosion because it wasn’t a molecular explosion but a nuclear one. The white plasma ball proves that. Also, there is very little blast, another giveaway that it was nuclear rather than molecular. The x-shaped lens flare proves the presence of X-rays which again, proves it was a nuclear event.

    • Peter Paul 1950  September 11, 2016 at 4:47 am

      Ian, that was the very first thing I had my eye on when I first started commenting your first article here at VT: the quality of the material available. So hang on a bit and have a look at this and we can go on from there. So in first place it’s…
      The ‘Phantom Blob’ strikes again… I’ve uploaded the full sequence of 18 numbered frames with our now infamous mystery to be solved caught in the act. Questions like ‘what is it’ and where does this guy come from and – most important of all: when and where is it going to strike again:
      File specs are: 1280 x 738 .JPG 300 dpi compression factor 95% captured using VLC from the super slomo version you can get here:
      Credit goes to ‘orogenicman’ who did a phantastic job making this slomo clip available.
      Special credit also goes to (c) 2016 USLaunchReport.com and I hope they get the further support they need in the near future to keep people like me off the street and up all night long counting all the pixels it takes till I fall asleep (instead of counting sheep). So thanks for all those sheepless nights USLaunchReport. More to come soon once I find a better provider to upload the frames.

  32. Agin  September 10, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    Clearly photo shopped so as to not blow Superman’s cover who was using the heat of his x-ray vision to destroy the joint Israeli-Chinese quantum cryptography and radar satellite project and their Long March through institutions and to the Dark Side of the Moon to secure vast amounts of helium 3.

    • Agin  September 11, 2016 at 3:05 pm

      The Moon is Now a Wi-Fi Hotspot
      By Carl Engelking | May 28, 2014 11:53 am

      China’s internet services aren’t stellar, which is why the nation’s State Council recently decided to spend US$182bn on network construction in an effort to speed up local connections.
      While Chinese citizens wait for all that to happen, plenty are instead turning to an app called Wi-Fi Skeleton Key that collects credentials for open Wi-Fi hotspots and shares them among users. The upshot is that users of the app can log into millions of hotspots around China, gratis.
      Which is a nice hack, especially given Chinese hotspots often ask for personal information before they allow connection. So nice a hack, in fact, that local outlet QQ reports that Wi-Fi Skeleton Key has just scored a $52 million VC injection that values the company at a billion bucks.

      While X-rays cannot be used in practice to enable seeing objects through walls, researchers have recently shown how everyday wireless signals, such as WiFi, can be used to achieve x-ray vision. Here is a chronological summary. In,[2][3] details of an area were successfully imaged through walls with wifi signals. In [4] [5] tracking of a human through walls was performed. Later work on tracking with wireless signals include.[6] In,[7] gesture recognition with wireless signals is tested through walls.

  33. Altimometer  September 10, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    Someone also wants electric Tesla driverless cars to go away. Effort is under way to eliminate competition at the government and corporate level. This poses a huge hurdle for startups in the US.

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