Uri Avnery – Zionist Atheists versus The Messiah

Israelitis Disorder - Not Knowing When to Stop Haggling

How far under water is an Israeli-Arab deal?

by  Uri Avnery,   … with Gush Shalom

Uri is a proponent of the two-state solution

[ Editor’s note: Uri gives us another of his Israeli political retrospectives from the viewpoint of someone who has been there the whole time. I think he is 93 now. We admire Uri because he has always been in the minority in wanting to do whatever is necessary, in terms of tradeoffs to get a final peace in Palestine, and he has never quit.

I fear he will not see it in his lifetime with the Likuds at the helm of the current ship of state. On the contrary, peace seems to be slipping away, due to the machinations of those who prefer non-peace as being not only profitable for them now, but more so later.

My serious education on Israel came from the Freedom of Information Act gold mine that author Steven Green dug out of the US classified archives on our history with Israel for his book, Taking Sides, 1984.

The material was so shocking that some of the Reagan administration were planning to charge Green with something, until the White House attorneys pointed out that it would be tough, as the government had released the material to him. So, they just reclassified the most revealing parts.

Here is what I consider to be one of the best gems from the book:

In March, 1948, a Joint Chiefs of Staff paper on “Force Requirements for Palestine,” anticipating the termination of the British Mandate, predicted that the “Zionist strategy will seek to involve [the United States] in continuously widening and deepening series of operations intended to secure maximum Jewish objectives…”

a) initial sovereignty over a portion of Palestine,

b) acceptance by the great powers of the right to unlimited immigration,

c) the extension of Jewish sovereignty over all of Palestine,

d) the expansion of “Eretz Israel” into Transjordan and into portions of Lebanon and Syria, and

e) the establishment of Jewish military and economic hegemony over the entire Mid East.

The JCS paper added ominously: “All stages of this program are equally sacred to the fanatical concepts of Jewish leaders. The program is openly admitted by same leaders, and has been privately admitted to United States officials by responsible leaders of the presently dominant Jewish group…the Jewish Agency.”

This taught me what an impossible situation the public was in, with this kind of information having been withheld from them, when they had every right to know; but high-level Americans betrayed their own countrymen as a favor to the Jewish Lobby by keeping it hidden Jim W. Dean ]

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Perhaps the Messiah will come – First published March 3, 2017

Jordan’s King Abdullah (R) meets with Egypt’s President al-Sisi (file photo)

If someone had told me 50 years ago that the rulers of Israel, Jordan and Egypt had met in secret to make peace, I would have thought that I was dreaming.

If I had been told that the leaders of Egypt and Jordan had offered Israel complete peace in return for leaving the occupied territories, with some exchanges of territory and a token return of refugees, I would have thought that the Messiah had come, and I would have started to believe in God or Allah or whoever there is up there.

Yet a few weeks ago, it was disclosed that the rulers of Egypt and Jordan had indeed met in secret last year with the Prime Minister of Israel in Aqaba, the pleasant sea resort where the three states touch each other. The two Arab leaders, acting de facto for the entire Arab world, had made this offer.

Benyamin Netanyahu gave no answer and went home. So did the Messiah.

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Netanyahu and King Abdullah of Jordan (File photo)

Donald Trump, the comedian-in-chief of the US, some time ago gave his answer to the question about the solution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Two-states, one-state, whatever the two sides agree on, he answered.

He could just as well have answered: “Two-states, one-state, three-states, four-states, take your pick!”

And indeed, if you live in la-la-land, there is no limit to the number of states. Ten states is as good as one state. The more the merrier. Perhaps it needed a total innocent like Trump to illustrate how much nonsense can be talked about that choice.

Israeli Prime Minister Levy Eshkol

On the fifth day of the Six-Day War, I published an open letter to the Prime Minister, Levy Eshkol, urging him to offer the Palestinians the opportunity to set up a state of their own in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital.

Immediately after the war, Eshkol invited me for a private conversation. He listened patiently while I explained to him the idea. At the end he said, with a benevolent smile:

“Uri, what kind of a merchant are you? A good merchant starts by demanding the maximum and offering the minimum. Then one haggles, and in the end a compromise is reached somewhere in the middle.”

“True,” I answered, “if one wants to sell a used car. But here we want to change history!”

The fact is that at the time, nobody believed that Israel would be allowed to keep the territories. It is said that generals always fight the last war. The same is true for statesmen. On the day after the six-day war, Israeli leaders called to mind the day after the 1956 war, when the US President Dwight D. Eisenhower and the Soviet President Nikolai Bulganin compelled David Ben-Gurion to give back all the occupied territory ignominiously.

So there seemed to be only one choice: to give the territories back to King Hussein of Jordan, as the great majority advocated, or to give them to the Palestinian people, as my friends and I, a tiny minority, suggested.

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Haim Zadok

I remember another conversation. The Minister of Trade and Industry, Haim Zadok, a very clever lawyer, made a fiery speech in the Knesset. When he came out of the plenum, I admonished him: “But you don’t believe a single world you just said!”

To which he replied, laughingly, “Anybody can make a good speech about things he believes in. The art is to make a good speech about things you don’t believe in!”

Then he added seriously:

“If they compel us to give back all the territories, we shall give back all the territories. If they compel us to give back part of the territories, we shall give back part of the territories. If they don’t compel us to give back anything, we shall keep everything.”

The incredible happened. President Lyndon Johnson and the entire world did not give a damn. We were left with the entire loot, to this very day.

I cannot resist the temptation to repeat again an old joke:

Right after the foundation of the State of Israel, God appeared to David Ben-Gurion and told him: “You have done good by my people. Utter a wish and I shall grant it”.

“I wish that Israel shall be a Jewish and a democratic state and encompass all the country between the Mediterranean and the Jordan,” Ben-Gurion replied.

“That is too much even for me!” God exclaimed. “But I will grant you two of the three.” Since then, we can choose between a Jewish and democratic Israel in a part of the country; a democratic state in all of the country that will not be Jewish; or a Jewish state in all of the country that will not be democratic.

That is the choice we still face, after all this time.

The Jewish state in all of the country means apartheid. Israel always maintained cordial relations with the racist Afrikaner state in South Africa, until it collapsed. Creating such a state here is sheer lunacy.

The annexationists have a trick up their sleeve: to annex the West Bank, but not the Gaza Strip. This would create a state with only a 40% Palestinian minority. In such a country there would rage a perpetual intifada.

But in reality, even this is a pipe dream. Gaza cannot be separated forever from Palestine. It has been part of the country since time immemorial. It would have to be annexed, too. This would create a state with a slight Arab majority, a majority bereft of national and civil rights. This majority would grow rapidly.

Such a situation would be untenable in the long run. Israel would be compelled to give the vote to the Arabs.

Utopian idealists would welcome such a solution. How wonderful! The One-state solution! Democracy, equality, the end of nationalism. When I was very young, I too hoped for this solution. Life has cured me. Anyone actually living in the country knows that this is totally impossible. The two nations would fight each other. At least for the first one or two hundred years.

I have never seen a detailed plan of how such a state would function. Except once: Vladimir Jabotinsky, the brilliant leader of the Zionist far-right, wrote such a plan for the Allies in 1940. If the President of the state will be Jewish, he decreed, the Prime Minister will be Arab. And so on. Jabotinsky died a few months later, along with his plan.

Zionists came to Palestine to live in a Jewish holy land — a land that was not empty, but was already settled by two other faiths

Zionists came here to live in a Jewish state. That was their dominant motive. They cannot even imagine an existence as another Jewish minority.

In such a situation, they would slowly emigrate, as the Afrikaners do. Indeed, such an emigration to the US and Germany is already happening under the radar. Zionism has always been a one-way street – towards Palestine. After this “solution”, it would go the other way.

The truth is that there is no choice at all.

The only real solution is the much-maligned “Two States for Two peoples”, the one declared dead many times. It’s either that solution or the destruction of both peoples.

So how do Israelis face this reality? They face it the Israeli way: by not facing the reality. They just go on living, day by day, hoping that the problem will just go away. Perhaps the Messiah will come after all.

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Leaked Report: Israel Acknowledges Jews in Fact Khazars

SECRET PLAN FOR REVERSE MIGRATION TO UKRAINE

Jim Wald for the Times of Israel (Their VT…most probably a lame attempt at humor) (From March 2014)

Jim Wald is Associate Professor and Director of the Center for the Book at Hampshire College

 

Followers of Middle Eastern affairs know two things: always expect the unexpected, and never write off Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who has more political lives than the proverbial cat.

Only yesterday came news that Syrian rebels plan to give Israel the Golan Heights in exchange for creation of a no-fly zone against the Assad regime. In an even bolder move, it is now revealed, Israel will withdraw its settlers from communities beyond the settlement blocs—and relocate them at least temporarily to Ukraine. Ukraine made this arrangement on the basis of historic ties and in exchange for desperately needed military assistance against Russia. This surprising turn of events had an even more surprising origin: genetics, a field in which Israeli scholars have long excelled.

A Warlike Turkic People—and a Mystery

It is well known that, sometime in the eighth to ninth centuries, the Khazars, a warlike Turkic people, converted to Judaism and ruled over a vast domain in what became southern Russia and Ukraine. What happened to them after the Russians destroyed that empire around the eleventh century has been a mystery. Many have speculated that the Khazars became the ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews.
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The Khazar Empire, from M. J-H. Schnitzler’s map of The Empire of Charlemagne and that of the Arabs, (Strasbourg, 1857)

Arabs have long cited the Khazar hypothesis in attempts to deny a Jewish historical claim to the land of Israel. During the UN debate over Palestine Partition, Chaim Weizmann responded, sarcastically: “lt is very strange. All my life I have been a Jew, felt like a Jew, and I now learn that I am a Khazar.” In a more folksy vein, Prime Minister Golda Meir famously said: “Khazar, Schmazar. There is no Khazar people. I knew no Khazars In Kiev. Or Milwaukee. Show me these Khazars of whom you speak.”
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a warlike people: Khazar battle axe, c. 7th-9th centuries

Contrarian Hungarian ex-communist and scientist Arthur Koestler brought the Khazar hypothesis to a wider audience with The Thirteenth Tribe (1976), in the hope that disproving a common Jewish “racial” identity would end antisemitism. Clearly, that hope has not been fulfilled. Most recently, left-wing Israeli historian Shlomo Sand’s The Invention of the Jewish People took Koestler’s thesis in a direction he had not intended, arguing that because Jews were a religious community descended from converts they do not constitute a nation or need a state of their own. Scientists, however, dismissed the Khazar hypothesis because the genetic evidence did not add up. Until now.

In 2012, Israeli researcher Eran Elhaik published a study claiming to prove that Khazar ancestry is the single largest element in the Ashkenazi gene pool. Sand declared himself vindicated, and progressive organs such as Haaretz and The Forward trumpeted the results.

Genome Evolution of Jewish Population John Hopkins by Gordon Duff

Israel seems finally to have thrown in the towel. A blue-ribbon team of scholars from leading research institutions and museums has just issued a secret report to the government, acknowledging that European Jews are in fact Khazars. (Whether this would result in yet another proposal to revise the words to “Hatikvah” remains to be seen.) At first sight, this would seem to be the worst possible news, given the Prime Minister’s relentless insistence on the need for Palestinian recognition of Israel as a “Jewish state” and the stagnation of the peace talks. But others have underestimated him at their peril. An aide quipped, when life hands you an etrog, you build a sukkah.

Speaking off the record, he explained, “We first thought that admitting we are really Khazars was one way to get around Abbas’s insistence that no Jew can remain in a Palestinian state. Maybe we were grasping at straws. But when he refused to accept that, it forced us to think about more creative solutions. The Ukrainian invitation for the Jews to return was a godsend. Relocating all the settlers within Israel in a short time would be difficult for reasons of logistics and economics. We certainly don’t want another fashlan like the expulsion of the settlers in the Gaza Hitnatkut [disengagement].

“We’re not talking about all the Ashkenazi Jews going back to Ukraine. Obviously that is not practical.

Speaking on deep background, a well-placed source in intelligence circles said: “We’re not talking about all the Ashkenazi Jews going back to Ukraine. Obviously that is not practical. The press as usual exaggerates and sensationalizes; this is why we need military censorship.”

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Khazaria 2.0?

All Jews who wish to return would be welcomed back without condition as citizens, the more so if they take part in the promised infusion of massive Israeli military assistance, including troops, equipment, and construction of new bases. If the initial transfer works, other West Bank settlers would be encouraged to relocate to Ukraine, as well.

After Ukraine, bolstered by this support, reestablishes control over all its territory, the current Autonomous Republic of Crimea would once again become an autonomous Jewish domain. The small-scale successor to the medieval empire of Khazaria (as the peninsula, too, was once known) would be called, in Yiddish, Chazerai.
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the Khazar Empire, map of Europe in the Age of Charles the Great, from Karl von Spruner, _Historisch-geographischer Hand-Atlas_ (Gotha, 1854)

the Khazars did not have to live within ‘Auschwitz borders.’”

“As you know,” the spokesman continued, “the Prime Minister has said time and again: we are a proud and ancient people whose history here goes back 4,000 years. The same is true of the Khazars: just back in Europe and not quite as long. But look at the map: the Khazars did not have to live within ‘Auschwitz borders.’”
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no “Auschwitz borders”: the great extent of the Khazar Empire (pink, at right) is readily apparent in this map of Europe circa 800, by Monin (Paris, 1841). Compare with Charlemagne’s empire (pink, at left)

“As the Prime Minister has said, no one will tell Jews where they may or may not live on the historic territory of their existence as a sovereign people. He is willing to make painful sacrifices for peace, even if that means giving up part of our biblical homeland in Judea and Samaria. But then you have to expect us to exercise our historical rights somewhere else. We decided this will be on the shores of the Black Sea, where we were an autochthonous people for more than 2000 years. Even the great non-Zionist historian Simon Dubnow said we had the right to colonize Crimea. It’s in all the history books. You can look it up.”

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Old-New Land?

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Black Sea, showing Khazar presence in Crimea and coastal regions: Rigobert Bonne, Imperii Romani Distracta. Pars Orientalis, (Paris, 1780). Note Ukraine and Kiev at upper left. At right: Caspian Sea, also labeled, as was the custom, as the Khazar Sea

Black Sea, showing Khazar presence in Crimea and coastal regions: Rigobert Bonne, Imperii Romani Distracta. Pars Orientalis, (Paris, 1780). Note Ukraine and Kiev at upper left. At right: Caspian Sea, also labeled, as was the custom, as the Khazar Sea

“We’d like to think of it as sort of a homeland-away-from-home,” added the anonymous intelligence source. “Or the original one,” he said with a wink. “After all, Herzl wrote about the Old-New Land, didn’t he? And the transition shouldn’t be too difficult for the settlers because, you know, they’ll still get to feel as if they are pioneers: experience danger, construct new housing, carry weapons. The women can continue to wear scarves on their heads, and the food won’t be very different from what they already eat.”

In retrospect, we should have seen this coming, said a venerable State Department Arabist, ticking off the signs on his fingers: a little-noticed report that Russia was cracking down on Israeli smuggling of Khazar artifacts, the decisions of both Spain and Portugal to give citizenship to descendants of their expelled Jews, as well as evidence that former IDF soldiers were already leading militias in support of the Ukrainian government. And now, also maybe the possibility that the missing Malaysian jet was diverted to Central Asia.

A veteran Middle East journalist said: “It’s problematic, but in a perverse way, brilliant. In one fell swoop, Bibi has managed to confound friend and foe alike. He’s put the ball back in the Palestinians’ court and relieved the pressure from the Americans without actually making any real concessions. Meanwhile, by lining up with the Syrian rebels and Ukraine, as well as Georgia and Azerbaijan, he compensates for the loss of the Turkish alliance and puts pressure on both Assad and Iran. And the new Cypriot-Israeli gas deal props up Ukraine and weakens the economic leverage of both the Russians and the Gulf oil states. Just brilliant.”

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Reactions from around the world

Given the confluence of the weekend and the Purim and Saint Patrick’s Day holidays, reporters scrambled to get responses. Reactions from around the world trickled in.

  • Members of the YESHA Council of settlers, some of them evidently the worse for wear after too much festival slivovitz, were caught completely off-guard. Always wary of Netanyahu, whom they regard as a slick opportunist rather than reliable ideological ally, they refused to comment until they had further assessed the situation.

Most of the hastily offered reactions fell into the predictable categories.

  • Right-wing antisemitic groups pounced on the story as vindication of their conspiracy theories, claiming that this was the culmination of the Jews’ centuries-old plan to avenge the defeat of Khazaria by the Russians in the Middle Ages, a reprise of Israel’s support for Georgia in 2008. “Jews have memories as long as their noses,” one declared.

A continuum of conquest and cruelty?

From Ramallah, a Fatah spokesman said the offer was a start but did not go nearly far enough toward satisfying Palestinian demands. Holding up an image of a Khazar warrior from an archaeological artifact, he explained:

There is a continuum of conquest and cruelty. It’s very simple, genetics does not lie. We see the results today: the Zionist regime and brutal Occupation Forces are descended from warlike barbarians. Palestinians are descended from peaceful pastoralists, in fact, from the ancient Israelites that you have falsely claimed as your ancestors. By the way, it is not true, however, that your ancestors ever had a temple in Jerusalem.

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Then: Khazarian barbarian. Warrior with prisoner, image from archaeological object.
[source: Wikimedia Commons]

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Now: Israeli border policeman with Palestinian protester
[source: Amnesty International]

The famously reliable unofficial intelligence website DAFTKAfile admitted:

Boy, are our faces red. We were caught flat-footed and thought that the return to Spain and Portugal was the real story. Obviously, that was an impeccably planned and clever feint to distract attention from the coming revolution in Ukraine. Nicely played, Mossad.

Prolific blogger Richard Sliverstein, whose knowledge of Jewish culture and uncanny ability to ferret out military secrets regularly provoke astonishment even among his critics, commented:

Frankly, I’m surprised that my Mossad sources did not get this story to me first. But I’ve been up against a deadline for an essay on the kabbalistic significance of sesame seeds, the main ingredient in hummus, so I haven’t caught up on my email. But, do I feel vindicated? Well, yes, but it’s scant satisfaction. I’ve been saying for years that the Jews are descended from Mongol-Tatar Khazars, but it has barely made a dent in the propaganda armor of these Zionist hasbaroid dolts.

An official of a leading human-rights NGO said:

Evacuating illegal settlements must be a part of any peace deal, but first forcing settlers to leave Palestine and then resettling them in Ukraine may be a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. We’ll see what the ICC has to say about this. And if they think they can be even more trigger-happy in Ukraine than the West Bank, they have another thing coming.

Ultra-Ultra-Orthodox spokesman Menuchem Yontef (formerly of Inowraclaw) welcomed the news:

We reject the Zionist state, which is illegitimate until Mashiach comes. We don’t care where we live as long as we can study the Torah and obey its commandments in full. However, we refuse to serve in the military there as well as here. And—we also want subsidies. That is G-d’s will.

The spokeswoman for a delegation of Episcopalian peace activists, reached after the Christ at the Checkpoint conference in Bethlehem, said, with tears in her eyes:

We applaud this consistency of principle. If only all Jews would think like Menuchem Yontef—in fact, I’d like to call them “Menuchem Yontef Jews”: “M. Y. Jews,” for short—then antisemitism would disappear and members of all three Abrahamic faiths would again live together peacefully here as they did before the advent of Zionism. The nation-state is a relic of the nineteenth century, which has caused untold suffering. The most urgent task for world peace is the immediate creation of a free and sovereign Palestine.

Noted academic and theorist Judith Buntler mused:

It may seem like a paradox to establish alterity or ‘interruption’ at the heart of ethical relations. But to know that we have first to consider what such terms mean. One might argue that the distinctive trait of Khazarian identity is that it is interrupted by alterity, that the relation to the gentile defines not only its diasporic situation, but one of its most fundamental ethical relations. Although such a statement may well be true (meaning that it belongs to a set of statements that are true), it manages to reserve alterity as a predicate of a prior subject. The relation to alterity becomes one predicate of ‘being Khazarian.’ It is quite another thing to understand that very relationship as challenging the idea of ‘Khazarian’ as a static sort of being, one that is adequately described as a subject. . . . coexistence projects can only begin with the dismantling of political Zionism.

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Not the “two-state solution” they expected?

Anti-Israel BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) leader Ali Abubinomial put it more simply. Pounding his desk, he fumed, “So, Israel and Khazaria? This is what the Zionists mean by a ‘two-state solution’?! Do the math! Has no one read my book?”

Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) called an emergency meeting to establish ties with the Pecheneg Liberation Organization (PLO), saying, “Pechenegs should not pay the price for European antisemitism.” The new solidarity group, “Students for Pechenegs in Ukraine” (SPUK), proclaimed as its motto: “From the Black to the Caspian Sea, We’re Gonna Find Somebody to Free!”

For his part, peace activist and former East Jerusalem administrator Myron Benvenuti responded with equanimity: “I’ve got nothing to worry about: I’m Sephardic and my family has lived here for centuries. Anyway, if I have to go somewhere else, it’s going to be Spain, not Ukraine: more sunshine, less gunfire.”

The consensus of the broad majority of “Middle Israel,” which feels that Netanyahu is not doing enough for peace but also questions the sincerity of the Palestinians, is skeptical and despairing. One woman said, in frustration: We all long for an agreement but just cannot see how to achieve it. For now, all we can see is this Chazerai.

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Update March 17, 2015:

Latest reports, including Vladimir Putin’s recognition of Crimea as a “sovereign and independent state,” and the estimate that relocation of Israeli settlers in any peace agreement would cost $10 billion, confirm the details of the above story. Ed.

Read more: Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine | Jim Wald | The Blogs | The Times of Israel
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8 Responses to "Uri Avnery – Zionist Atheists versus The Messiah"

  1. ayelyahbenjamin  March 14, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    “The truth is that there is no choice” while Truth is refused a hearing …the Messiah is with those considered enemies by an imposter israel that has no right to exist, is based on lies and a Rothschilds construct from the start…. Rothschilds Tavistock, Rothschilds israel, with Rothschilds Knesset, Rothschilds supreme court ….and now Rothschilds new world order in delusion thinks it can seat global rule from Jerusalem….and israeli jews are its “shield”…open to and understand true history…. Rothschild raised this “shield” you now raise as your flag that now it hands around your necks like a noose ……no one needs to die just give up the lie and it pull down that symbol from sight…that will open doors that will bring truth and peace as the Port of Gaza is to be opened by the world for the world and never will be closed again as the new entry into Jerusalem for all peace loving people to visit the holy land….peace will spread from there because the Palestinian people are first in line…. take that to your leaders

  2. Amelius  March 14, 2017 at 10:59 am

    If we disregard the lie that suggests Jews are gods chosen people, which it says no where in the bible, and it is realized that this is in no way a repatriation of these people to their ancestral homelands, then the question arises, what right do the Jews have to Palestine? The real answer is, none. This problem will never be solved until those megalomaniacal Jews accept the reality that they’re not Hebrews, or Israelites and that they’re merely the descendants of converts to Judaism. They are not the victims in Palestine and never have been. Israel started every war to steal more and more land and a quick review of the body count on both sides, shows clearly who the aggressor is. If there is to be peace, then Israel must cut the shit and drop the ‘holier than thou’ attitude. They would first have to admit they were wrong, before they could start taking steps in the right direction.

    • Amelius  March 14, 2017 at 11:02 am

      I will not hold my breath waiting for Israel to admit it’s been wrong all along, as they are always taking the easy way out and blaming their problems on ‘anti-semitism’, a term that has no meaning in the context in which it is commonly misused today. It’s simply Israel’s get out of jail free card. A defamatory buzzword designed to end any real debate, before it even begins. Hey Israel, no matter how this ends, it will not be good for you and I’ll be damned if I ever agree to take your people in as refugees after your murderous state fails. When the time comes and you are not welcome anywhere on earth, you’ll have no one to blame but yourselves.

  3. Khalid Talaat  March 14, 2017 at 8:45 am

    In the Video around 13:00 the lady says that the settlers have the same genetics (lies) and the same fathers.

  4. Khalid Talaat  March 14, 2017 at 8:40 am

    Thanks LC for the video link. However, “getting the Palestinians to come out of the closet and say they are not Arabs but only Jews”, is like saying that the Northern Europeans should come out of the closet and say they are Christians and not Vikings. Another Zionist and Zio-Christian bull cookie fest.

  5. Khalid Talaat  March 14, 2017 at 8:35 am

    If nature repeats its self, and aborts what is unnatural for the 71rst time, this time might be the end of all zionists and the Jews they have hijacked. This would be truly tragic and some would say an act of God, the same God your Rabbis claim defeated in a debate.

  6. Khalid Talaat  March 14, 2017 at 8:34 am

    Lies and propaganda aside, the zionists left behind perfectly good homes in Russia and Europe to robbe the homes of others in a far away land. Let us right here and now stow away the lie of “the promised land” where the sun don’t shine, assuming there are enough zionist backsides.
    At this time fair minded Arabs are considerate of the zionist born in Palestine and the question of where would they return too. They believe the Jews have lived among them for two thousand years and so what if a couple of million drop in as a thorn in their sides instead of just peaceful immigrants? Let us make peace with them and in a few decades things will get better, is their thinking.
    But there is one problem Mr. Avnery and all Israelis fail to notice. The problem is that Israelis and their zionist masters have the habit of looting what they want without any regard or re-spect for anyone else. You do it by deception, cruelty and a smirk. You always imply the same from times ancient: we have your deposits, so what are you going to do about it? Well in 70 locations around the world and at 70 different times, the people routed you out. It is my fear that today the whole world sees your inhumanity and they hear you saying: We own all the banks and governments, so what are you going to do about it?

  7. wjabbe  March 14, 2017 at 4:40 am

    Land disputes are easily resolved in the U.S. borders. Both sides take their cases to a court. A judge looks at the evidence and makes a ruling. After all appeals are over a final ruling is made and both parties are forced by the full military force and power of government to comply. End of story. Here there is no court or authority recognized by both sides of the dispute. The U.S is unfairly aiding one side. The law of the jungle will rule unless both sides select an arbitrator and a force which they will both recognize to enforce a final agreement on both sides. The UN is too weak to do this. End of story. There will be no meaningful agreement until some force compels it. The U.S. could do it but won’t. so the law of the jungle rules.

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