Major Cities Voting No on Turkish Referendum

As results are coming in on the Turkish Referendum that would give President Recep Tayyip Erdogan extended constitutional powers, the major cities in Turkey are reporting a lead in the No vote.  ” ‘No’ has the lead in Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir, three major cities in Turkey in . ‘Yes’  is ahead countrywide,” according to TRTWorld.com on Twitter.

Not surprising, as a vote for the referendum would allow for increased presidential powers that abolish the office of the Prime Minister and replace the existing parliamentary system of government with an executive presidency and presidential system giving the presidency supreme power in Turkey.

According to the New York Times, “Under the new system, the president would have the power to issue decrees, appoint a vast array of top officials and set the national budget, all with limited legal oversight. If Parliament rejects the president’s budget, the previous year’s program would continue with minor adjustments, unlike in the United States where lawmakers can ensure a government shutdown.

“Under the proposed measure, the president would appoint 12 of the 15 judges on the constitutional court, the body with the ultimate authority to scrutinize the legality of his decrees. He would appoint six of the 13 members of the country’s higher judicial authority, which oversees the appointment of Turkey’s 14,000 judges and prosecutors. Three of the rest would be selected by Parliament, making it likely that he and his party would appoint most of the members of the two most important judicial bodies in the land.

“One amendment would even allow the president to order disciplinary inquiries into any of Turkey’s 3.5 million civil servants, said Metin Feyzioglu, the head of the Turkish bar association. This means that the local branch of the president’s political party ‘in a particular town would have de facto power over the public servants in that town,’ Mr. Feyzioglu said. ‘It leads to a total party state.’ ”

The Referendum also has deep impacts on the Turkey’s bid for EU Membership, as if as indicated, Turkey reinstates capital punishment, this will automatically end its EU bid.

Basically the referendum is a consolidation of power at behest of Erdogan after a potentially false coup that may change Turkey from a Western leaning, previously fairly secular democracy to a virtual dictatorship under the leadership of an all powerful political party with its head, an Islamist, that has been rapidly altering laws within the country to move towards a religiously based dictatorial system.

Those in larger Turkish cities seem to recognize this, but will they be enough to tip the vote? And what will the future impacts be on the region, if the Referendum passes or fails? We will learn more tomorrow.

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8 Responses to "Major Cities Voting No on Turkish Referendum"

  1. wjabbe  April 16, 2017 at 5:12 pm

    Ms. Diener: Many years ago, 1940’s, I grew up in paradise Sierra Madre, California. Two of my childhood friends who lived about a block away were Bob and his younger brother Dennis Hof. Bob had polio and had a twitch in his voice. Wonderful friends. Their Mom was a stay at home Mon; their Dad was a body man at a car body shop and worked very hard. When they were teenagers they bought an avocado farm in Vista, a fabulous place on a small hill with house on top surrounded by Avocado trees. I visited them there several times. She had a 1949 Buick Roadmaster Sedan so evidently they did OK. Vista was a neat place then. I have been gone from California for over 50 years. By the way we had about a dozen avocado trees in our half acre lot in Sierra Madre. Most of them rotted on the ground but I sold some around the neighborhood. One learned quickly not to climb an avocado tree because the limbs are brittle and will take you down. Best regards, Winfield J. Abbe, Ph.D., Physics UC Riverside, 1966, AB, Physics UC Berkeley, 1961, Our family also lived in San Diego for a year or so in 1940. My late Father was a mechanical engineer who worked for Consolidated Aircraft Corp. during WWII. I was born at Cleveland, Ohio in 1939. 1939 was a good year: “Gone With the Wind”.

    • wjabbe  April 16, 2017 at 5:17 pm

      [ Editor’s note: This comment is off topic. ]
      P. S. I have lived at Athens, Georgia for over 50 years…

    • wjabbe  April 16, 2017 at 5:54 pm

      [ Editor’s note: This comment is off topic. ]
      Today in Sierra Madre, California a three bedroom piece of junk …

  2. Jaffer Jamil  April 16, 2017 at 4:52 pm

    City voters versus rural voters. Here’s a far-fetched idea: All countries should have equal distribution of power between the two electorates. Sort of like two super-cantons – regardless of the number of voters in either.

  3. wjabbe  April 16, 2017 at 4:40 pm

    An already totally corrupt cesspool gets worse. Does anyone believe Erdogan won’t pull out all the stops to stuff the ballot boxes to put this sham dictatorship through? According to Fox he already has. Recounts will be meaningless. He is in until 2029 long enough to continue to steal oil and land from Syria.Nothing ever changes in the cesspool Turkey which did a Holocaust on Armenia in WWI long before the Germans did the Jews, but Turkey gets a pass on their Holocaust which was very real and not a Hoax.

    • wjabbe  April 16, 2017 at 4:52 pm

      Of course this dictatorship is a “friend” of the U.S. along with all the other outlaw nations over there, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, etc. It is no surprise that the U.S. is a defacto dictatorship too. The corrupt U.S. outlaw government has zero moral authority to give advice to the rest of the world and should mind its own business and close all these wasteful expensive bases and reduce the military budget by 80%. lest we go bankrupt leading to anarchy.

  4. Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  April 16, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    Ann: Very good analysis. Again. To understand last year’s Erdogan coup ‘fail,’ your article (linked above) is also essential reading: “Two Generals, One Coup and a Realignment of the World” by Ann Diener on September 3, 2016 at http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/03/two-generals-one-coup-and-a-realignment-of-the-world (posted by Gordon Duff, with Editor’s Note by Jim W. Dean).

    • Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  April 16, 2017 at 4:46 pm

      Ann: As per WaPo, Erdogan is declaring victory. BBC says that Erdogan won. CNN headline: “Turkey’s democracy died today.” Regardless, am looking forward to your analysis.

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