The Great Fire In London

There are lessons here about our lack of resilience.

Tower fire

Don’t be fooled by the official death toll. The fire at Grenfell Tower in Kensington, West London, could turn out to the one of the worst fires in our peacetime history.

First, my heartfelt sympathies to the families of the missing and bereaved. This was a terrible event, which could and should have been avoided. At the very lowest, over a hundred families were housed in a death-trap, without an effective fire alarm system, and given shockingly bad advice to stay put in the event of fire.

Expressions of sympathy are not enough, however. Those of us with a brain have a duty to analyse this disaster, both to attribute blame and ensure that we never see the like again.

Of course it is too early to express a concluded view about the cause of the fire, and the following comments represent preliminary analysis only, but people want answers and they want them quickly. They are entitled to them.

A quick recap

For those who have not been following the story, Grenfell Tower is, or sadly was, a 230-feet tall, 24-story local authority tower block in West London, near to the A40 Westway. It was divided into 120 separate apartments. It had a central stairwell and two elevators and was cheaply refurbished last year, being clad with combustible cladding, which contains aluminum and polymers.

The cladding was added to increase the building’s energy efficiency and improve its appearance. Grenfell Tower was originally constructed in 1974. More fire-resistant Reynobond cladding could have been used. Flammable cladding would not have been permitted on a building of this height in the United States.

The building had no effective fire alarm system. It was not fitted with sprinklers and had a single entrance, which also doubled as an emergency exit. No other means of emergency exit than the single stairwell was provided, although the London Fire Brigade has no effective means of rescuing people stranded on the top floors of burning skyscrapers. The stairwell was fitted with a German (Witt & Sohn) smoke extraction system.

At around 0054 hours local time on Wednesday June 14th, fire broke out on or near the third floor (second floor in UK parlance). The cause of the fire has been blamed on an ‘exploding refrigerator’. There were prompt calls to the 999 emergency number and the first appliance arrived at around 0100. The senior Fire Brigade officer on the spot quickly and correctly escalated the fire to a major incident and five London hospitals were put on standby. Some 200 firefighters were sent to Grenfell Tower, supported by police and paramedics.

The London Fire Brigade has no aerial fire-fighting capability at all and the fire was fought entirely from the ground. The external cladding quickly caught alight and the fire raced up the sides of the building. Escape from the 18th floor and above was very difficult. At least one baby was thrown by its distraught mother from an 11th floor window, being caught by an alert and caring member of the public. Other terrified residents jumped, as on 9/11. The heights were lower of course, but few if any of the jumpers survived.

Rescue

The Death Toll

The authorities have been very nervous about releasing figures. The official toll now stands at 30, but very sadly there is no chance of it being anywhere near as low as that.

Nobody knows precisely how many were in the building when the fire broke out. The timing could not have been worse, as most flats were fully occupied. The range of realistic estimates appears to lie from 500 to 600.

The evacuation was chaotic. No accurate count of survivors was taken, only of those who were taken to hospital, or self-admitted. There seem to have been very few survivors, sadly, from floors 18 to 24 (American numbering). Only 50 or so families were rehoused, although these were publicly provided apartments and very few residents would have had alternative accommodation.

Tragically, it looks like the number of dead may be as high as 200. It is unlikely to be below 100, making 150 a mid-range estimate. Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry rather gave the game away on Thursday night’s Question Time on BBC1 when she said that we had not seen casualties on this scale since the Blitz. Being a pro-European, with respect (we shared a tutorial class at Bar school), she took care not to mention of course that the Blitz was carried out by our community partners the Luftwaffe and the Regia Aeronautica.

David Dimbleby was back in the chair again, BTW. He was briefly replaced following that economically literate question, which must have shocked BBC management.

The latest program was back to slamming the Tories as mean slashers of public services, with the panel pretending that you can increase the total tax take by hiking tax rates. The moment of economic literacy was like a shooting star at night. There was a brief flash of illumination, followed by darkness.

The Cover-Up

The Prime Minister has already announced that there will be a cover-up. Of course she didn’t use those exact words. The formula she used was “a full public inquiry”, which is Whitehall code for a total whitewash. It will be presided over by a judge, no doubt drawn from the Ministry of Justice’s dodgy judges list, no offense to the judiciary intended.

There has never been a serious judge-led inquiry in Britain. The locus classicus for judicial cover-ups was the Wreck Inquiry presided over by that bent Liberal, is that is not a tautology, Lord Mersey, following the sinking by German Naval Intelligence of the White Star liner RMS Titanic on April 15 1912 with heavy loss of life.

Lord Mersey almost certainly knew of Germany’s involvement. He was very quick to pounce on any barrister who asked intelligent questions. Unfortunately, since most barristers are intelligence-illiterate and gullible, there were very few of those. Lord Mersey’s inquiry was a musical comedy proceeding from beginning to end, with respect.

The Grenfell Tower inquiry will probably follow the lines of the with respect fatuous Piper Alpha inquiry, chaired by Lord Cullen. That followed the destruction by Germany’s GO2 of an oil and gas rig in the North Sea as part of Germany’s attack on the Thatcher Government. It was also part of an ongoing strategic campaign by Germany to strangle the West’s energy supplies, which had started with the German-sponsored Oil Price Shock.

Lord Cullen

The Piper Alpha inquiry largely rubber-stamped an earlier civil service technical report, which of course omitted all mention of sabotage. Occidental Petroleum, the owners of the rig, were a well-run company and suspected sabotage from the start. Dr Armand Hammer was nobody’s fool.

Sabotage was confirmed by the respected engineering consultants Arthur D. Little, but the ADL report was suppressed from the inquiry for political reasons. The inquiry was dragged out for over a year, sitting on no fewer than 180 separate days. In all that time not a single intelligent question was asked about the cause of the disaster and the Janet and John report which resulted got it hopelessly wrong, with respect. Nobody in Scotland is remotely interested in opening a murder investigation. Anyone would think that the Jocks export large numbers of kilts to Germany.

I predict that the Grenfell Tower Inquiry will be another long-drawn-out musical comedy proceeding, costing millions of pounds, during the course of which not a single intelligent question will be asked about the cause of the fire.

There are only two journalists in Britain with a brain (although that’s still two more than America), Christopher Booker and Peter Hitchens, but it’s unlikely that either will attend.

There will be an official preliminary report, which will state an official conclusion, which the presiding judge will treat as binding. No intelligence-literate barrister will be allowed to appear.

The exploding fridge

The only cause given, an exploding refrigerator, raises as many questions as it answers. We live in an age of unnecessary product warnings.

After a long day in London recently, I settled comfortably into my first class seat and decided to treat myself to a glass of wine and a packet of dry roasted peanuts from the catering trolley. I am very partial to dry roasted peanuts and, despite being suspended as a barrister, am keeping my alcohol intake up, so as to avoid causing a shock to my liver. I have a strong liver, BTW, much more useful to a barrister than a brain. I also have a brain, of course, but judges tend to get upset if I start using it in court.

The packet of nuts contained a stern warning to the effect that ‘this packet of nuts may contain nuts’. Even allowing for the fact that this warning was more likely addressed to the second-class passengers, who were served, eventually, from the same trolley, this did seem to me to be a bit of nanny-state nonsense.

I have seen and opened many fridges in my time. Apart from anything else they’re the best place to keep white wine and beer. I have NEVER seen a warning saying “This Refrigerator Might Explode”. It doesn’t happen very often.

How often have you been walking down the street, been overtaken by a fridge door and said “Dang, that’s another fridge gone up”? I have no doubt that we shall be hearing more about this exploding fridge. I am not saying that a fridge did not explode – what I want to know is, what caused to explode?

WARNING IMPLIES PRESENCE OF “VAPORS”

Was the fire deliberate?

Explosives are a not uncommon cause of explosions. The fire happened as Germany was applying pressure on the UK as part of a desperate effort to keep us in the German orbit, aka the EU. It followed two recent German-sponsored terrorist attacks, one of them an attempt to assassinate Prime Minister Theresa May, whose security detail is so jumpy the poor PM was banned from talking to survivors this week. She was only allowed to talk to firefighters, presumably on the basis that assassinating the Prime Minister would in most cases be treated as a disciplinary offence for a firefighter.

The building also appears to have housed members of the Moslem Brotherhood, a German-sponsored terrorist organisation. We know that setting fires is a standard German intelligence tactic, used e.g. in 1987 at King’s Cross, after the General Election that year didn’t go the way that Germany wanted. That was also about Europe, as the Germans wanted to
set up the euro, to which Margaret Thatcher was opposed.

It is too early to say whether the fire was set deliberately or not. It may turn out to have been caused by an over-ripe bottle of beer, or a particularly lively chicken and mushroom pie.

All I am saying is that the issue of causation has to be approached with an open mind and the incident placed in its strategic context. The police are incapable of doing that, as they are incapable of strategic thought, which requires thinking, with respect, not the rozzers’ strongest suit.

The official inquiry won’t be an inquiry at all. It will, I suspect, be conducted under ‘Warwick Rules’, where the findings are dictated in advance by the Cabinet Office, on pain of the learned judge’s most recent encounter with Miss Whiplash being leaked to the Sun.

Lessons about governance

Another thing the inquiry won’t look at is the role of the Cabinet Office in running local government. Local government in Britain has been hollowed out for decades. It’s now effectively a branch of central government, which in turn is run from the Cabinet Office.

It is highly unlikely that the Cabinet Office would have permitted safe cladding to have been used in last year’s refurbishment. Grenfell Tower was a death-trap and as such was far too useful to GO2, the German intelligence operation in London. They are always on the lookout for systemic or design weaknesses which can be exploited both to cause both physical and political mayhem.

Lacking a single member with high intelligence and possessing an obsessive tendency to write off intelligence analysis as conspiracy theories, and not knowing how badly compromised the Joint Intelligence Committee is, the Tory government is a soft target.

Civil Defence

The London Fire Brigade and Ambulance Service were overwhelmed by this disaster. They had to put out pathetic calls asking people not to ring 999. Had anyone’s house caught fire in South West London they would have been out of luck – it would have been buckets of sand and water only.

There are lessons here about our lack of resilience. Goodness knows how they would have coped had two such fires started at the same time. As it turned out many of the ambulances weren’t needed, as so few survivors made it out of the building, but they weren’t to know how bad the death toll was going to be.

I have called for years for the Civil Defence Organisation to be brought back. Aside from anything else CDO fire engines would probably have greater power and reach. The London Fire Brigade is equipped to deal with house fires, not tower blocks – none of its hoses could reach much above the 18th floor.

A revamped CDO could also have helicopters designed for fire-fighting and evacuation. Sixteen years after 9/11 we are still reduced to watching desperate people having to jump from tall buildings. The military perfected helicopter evacuation in Korea and at Suez. It’s not a new concept. Yes I know the air is bumpy above a fire, engines have to be uprated to cope with warm ambient air, you need extending stairs rather than rope ladders, as you’re not evacuating troops, and the helos have to be reinforced, but it’s not difficult to do.

The assassination attempt on Congressman Scalise

I’m glad the attempt failed, but Steve Scalise was badly hurt. There is no way the shooter was acting alone – they never do. Recruiting a Bernie Sanders supporter was clever.

There is not the slightest reason to suppose that Senator Sanders was involved, and the shooter may not have been a genuine Sanders supporter anyway. In the Oslo Massacre the DVD took care to manufacture an extreme right-wing legend for Breivik.

Diabolical meddling in internal affairs?

A similar strategy was followed in England a year ago, when GO2 created a right-wing legend for Jo Cox’s assassin. Readers will recall the story – the pro-German side were losing the referendum on the EU, so the DVD in Dachau tasked GO2 with assassinating a nice Remain MP in a desperate effort to swing the result Germany’s way. Germany of course is the controlling power in the EU, the concept for which was drawn up in the Nazi period by a team of officials reporting to Reichsminister Funk.

The Remain camp of course took care not to mention the good (not!) Reichsminister during their campaign to keep Britain under Germany’s thumb. They pretended that the father of the EU was the German agent Jean Monnet, although they also took care not to mention that Monnet worked for the Abwehr and had drenched himself in Allied blood in both world wars.

It is important to act in good faith. I am marginally to the right of center politically and don’t share many positions with Bernie Sanders. I absolutely refuse to blame him for this shooting in any way, however, and I would not expect any true conservative to try and take unfair political advantage. I think Senator Sanders is a good man, who speaks from the heart. Rather like my old friend Tony Benn he has a deep belief in the democratic process.

The attempted assassination of the Majority Whip comes at a time when German Correa/COREA Group assets in the CIA and FBI are trying to smear President Trump over the Russia hoax and set him up for impeachment on a trumpery (pun intended) obstruction of justice charge. That clown Mueller, BTW, needs to be thrown off that investigation, along with the team of eager young Democrat lawyers he’s hired, none of whom seem to have stayed awake during their ethics classes, no offense intended.

LA’s tribute to Adam West

I don’t usually agree with the Mayor of LA, indeed I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with him. However I respectfully applaud his decision to honor Adam West by displaying the Bat symbol in LA’s night sky. That was a nice touch.

Adam West’s Batman was a cultural icon. The series demonstrated a fundamental truth – being good is not the same thing as being boring. In fact the Bad Guys tend to have a lot less fun.

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  1. mb.  June 25, 2017 at 1:58 am

    Interesting : expensive apartments for rent in …. Grenfell Tower !
    At 8:15 min. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih5KbNBR0pM

  2. JS  June 24, 2017 at 4:41 am

    Faulty fridge is still being blamed. I might feel just peachy about that, if it weren’t for the fact that a faulty fridge was initially thought to be the cause of the blaze in Oakland last year that killed 36 people, the worst fire in California since the 1906 San Francisco megaquake. Seriously, are there no other dangerous appliances, such as heaters? Why a fridge? But the ATF nixed that idea. From the wikipedia page about the fire, official cause UNKNOWN, but which I believe to have been arson: “An early report attributed the fire origin to a refrigerator,[19] but this cause was rejected by agents from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, although agents initially left open the possibility that it was started by another electrical appliance or component.[3] Max Ohr, creative director of the artist collective, said the collective had reported electrical problems to the owner of the building.[20] The fire began on the first floor and spread quickly, and individuals on the second floor were initially unaware of it.[21]” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Oakland_warehouse_fire

  3. JS  June 23, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    Faulty refrigerator/freezer causing the fire is still the official story, as of today: http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/24100-london-apartment-fire-that-killed-79-began-in-refrigerator-police-say
    ““We know that this fire wasn’t started deliberately and we know that the fridge freezer in this matter has never been subject to a product recall before,” McCormack added. “Further tests are ongoing on to that fridge.” The British government has ordered a test of the appliance. The specific model, FF175BG, has been discontinued since 2009. The refrigerator manufacturer Hotpoint, is owned by Whirlpool. “We are working with the authorities to obtain access to the appliance so that we can assist with the ongoing investigations,” Whirlpool Corp said in a statement to Reuters. “Words cannot express our sorrow at this terrible tragedy.” On Friday, police said they are considering manslaughter charges, as well as health and safety and fire safety charges, against the West London building’s owners. McCormack added that after tests were carried out to a small portion of insulation and cladding they did not pass public safety examinations and qualifications.”

  4. JS  June 23, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    As of today, the official toll is 79, but officials fear the real number is higher. And it looks like there will be several criminal charges laid against the owners, including manslaughter: “The police investigation is focused on how the blaze started, how it spread so fast and whether any person or organizations should be held responsible, Detective Chief Superintendent Fiona McCormack told a press briefing Friday. Documents have already been seized, she said. McCormack said the number of people dead or presumed dead remains at 79, but she fears the true number could be higher.”
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/europe/london-grenfell-tower-fire/index.html

  5. Michael Shrimpton  June 20, 2017 at 5:59 am

    Police and government are desperate to downplay the death toll. Final figure unlikely to bear any relation to the sad reality.

    The Finsbury Park mosque incident might have been staged – it was certainly very convenient timing for the Cabinet Office, police and government, taking both Grenfell Towers and the government’s surrender to Brussels in the Brexit negotiations. On balance I think it was a coincidence, but I don’t like coincidences!

    Looks like there was a bomb factory in Grenfell Tower, or TATP was being stored in a fridge and went off.

    • JS  June 20, 2017 at 7:08 pm

      I also don’t like coincidences. The Independent has the news today, about a Muslim girl who was attacked and killed on Sunday in Sterling, Virginia. Her body was found in a pond (Monday?) likely raped before she was killed. An illegal alien from El Salvador is a suspect in the crime, as he had an altercation with her group, chasing them with a metal baseball bat, striking the girl and hauling her off in his car. This is what the DailyBeast said about what the Muslim teens were doing: “Hassanen and a group of about 15 Muslim teenagers were walking and riding bikes back to the All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS) mosque in Sterling after leaving a nearby fast food restaurant at about 3:40 a.m. on Sunday.”

  6. Paedo hunter  June 19, 2017 at 4:14 am

    This is old news now seeing as a 48 yr old white man mowed down muslims in Finsbury Park in a white van……killing one…..injuring 9 or so…..and Theresa May is calling a COBRA meeting as it is deemed a terrorist attack (I wonder what terror group he belongs to?…..rather than just a madman on his own)…..nothing like ‘new’ news to get ‘old’ news off the headlines

    • Paedo hunter  June 19, 2017 at 4:20 am

      ….and just wait until you hear all the witness accounts……one said they, including himself, dragged him out of the van and started beating him but the Imam stopped them, another states “the guy jumped out of the van and started punching muslims as he ran off down the street shouting he was gonna kill muslims and then I caught up with him and wrestled him to the ground”….another said he was attending to the man who died on the pavement while a mob surrounded the man in the van…..while another said himself and a group lifted the van off of the dying man as he was stuck underneath it…..nothing like unrehearsed witness accounts to stir up the pot…..medals for all…..facts from none

    • Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  June 19, 2017 at 11:12 am

      PH: You ask, which terrorists? May-Day White Christian Jihad has now claimed responsibility. ;-).

      May & her Tories needed to distract Brits from May’s abject incompetence in fire & terror prep. In fact, it’s worse than that: May’s & BoJo’s foreign & domestic policies in cutting budgets for police & fire protection, in sitting on the fire safety report and in pursuing senseless wars & defence industry profits are the direct cause of Manchester, London & Grenfell.

      Theresa May should take full responsibility for the Pinsbury, Manchester & London terror attacks and for the Grenfell fire. Grenfell, then May fell. May should resign. Now.

    • Paedo hunter  June 19, 2017 at 12:02 pm

      Dr Abu….maybe we could title these new terrorists as “Bojo May’hem”….the British white Christian Conservative Jihadists….a play on the name of ‘Boko Haram’….or maybe not…….let’s vote on the name…..but even then the Russians will hack that election too…..won’t they?…;-(

    • Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  June 19, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      PH: I’ll pass your “BoJo May’hem” name change suggestion to the May-Day Jihad. However, my Nigerian Boko Haram boys & girls may claim trademark infringement.

      For voting, I’ll also suggest that we hire Russian election monitors & security… ;-).

  7. JohnZ  June 18, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    Monty Python did a skit on high rise flats with one having rotating knives and the other supposedly made of nonflamable materials. https://youtu.be/RicaXxiU1WM
    This article has me wondering if that sketch was a satire on the awful building codes of Britain at the time.

    • Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  June 19, 2017 at 12:08 pm

      JZ: Brit building codes are still inadequate. May & BoJo will NOT release fire safety report. Your linked video was of an architectural design meeting for Grenfell Tower… ;-).

      All seriousness aside, Grenfell was designed with NO fire alarms, NO sprinklers & NO gas safety (e.g., gas fridges & gas pipes in fire escape stairs). Existing building codes allowed cheaper flammable insulation inside recent, cosmetic, exterior, aluminum building cladding.

      As London mayor, BoJo did nothing to fix the problems, and May & BoJo made the problems worse by cutting budgets for police & fire brigades.

      May & BoJo should resign. Grenfell, then May fell.

  8. JS  June 18, 2017 at 8:28 am

    Article has interesting graphic of Correa group. Kudos to the editor. This is the first of its kind that I’ve ever seen.

  9. paul becke  June 18, 2017 at 5:15 am

    I was astonished to read the other day that Theresa May is a Sunday, church-going Catholic, as her every policy is diametrically opposed to the teachings of Christ, the Apostles, their successors, the Fathers, the Catholic Church’s Social Doctrine and mainstream Christianity of all denominations ; and even to the right of Thatcher’s policies, although, thanks to the latter, she has had a freer hand to wreak mayhem. Ooops, pun not intended, but perhaps not inapt.

    It is delinquent enought for a Christian to act as thought the Second Commandment were negotiable, but for a national, Christian leader to totally countermand it, is incomprehensible.

    • Paedo hunter  June 18, 2017 at 7:38 am

      The Society of Jesus, our friends The Jesuits, run the catholic showtime, and they have nothing to do with Jesus

  10. ayelyahbenjamin  June 18, 2017 at 4:20 am

    “straight out of a Hollywood disaster film” … @6.15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrDCWUN3aIQ Man Living In London Apartment That Caught Fire Says “MEN WERE WORKING ON GAS PIPES!” ….. get it before youtube take it down

    • JS  June 18, 2017 at 8:03 am

      Very interesting. Mox News says about 140 flats, with 6 flats per floor. They say several times, that residents reported the fire started on or near the 4th floor. (My observation of news coverage of the fire in its earlier stages… It appeared to be on the FIRST floor that was occupied by flats, as the bottom 3 floors had just a few windows. That might also explain why there are varying stories about there being 24 vs. 27 stories.)Then, from the 6:25 to 10:45 mark, they introduce Mikey, who lived on the 7th floor with his girlfriend and daughter. Mikey said that in the weeks prior to the fire, there were men working on natural gas pipes, and he observed them near the stairwell. Mikey also states that he saw blue flames. And fire alarms did NOT work. His description of the speed of the fire “pyrotechnic speed” and “like a Hollywood disaster movie”. It looks to me like multiple acts of sabotage to ensure people didn’t get out.

  11. Nannie  June 18, 2017 at 3:21 am

    Thank you for this artikel mr. Shrimpton.

  12. Mo Stodd  June 17, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    “It is too early to say whether the fire was set deliberately or not. It may turn out to have been caused by an over-ripe bottle of beer, or a particularly lively chicken and mushroom pie.” Whatever the cause, like so many others you miss the astounding point that the effect has already been identified in several reports, e.g: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/14/key-questions-about-the-grenfell-tower-fire :

    “What about the new gas pipes in the central stairwell? Did they exacerbate the blaze?”
    “A local councillor, Judith Blakeman, who sits on the tenant management organisation, raised concerns in March about the National Grid installation of gas risers or pipes in the main stairwell as part of the refurbishment. She was assured by the landlord that they would be boxed in with “fire-rated” protection, but this does not appear to have been done. The London fire brigade said on Thursday morning they had not been able to put out the flames until they had isolated a ruptured gas main in the block.”

    Between 1965 and 1977 ten point blocks were built to my design by a local authority (Stoke) whose policy was to forbid gas to be piped into their high rise dwellings so as TO AVOID A REPEAT OF RONAN POINT. Grenfell appears prima facie to be such a repeat involving not a gas stove but, according to some reports, a GAS FRIDGE!!

    • Mo Stodd  June 18, 2017 at 2:01 am

      “I have no doubt that we shall be hearing more about this exploding [gas] fridge. I am not saying that a fridge did not explode – what I want to know is, what caused [it] to explode?” Lack of maintenance of the flame failure device is a strong possibility, allowing unburnt gas to accumulate. This quote is from: http://engagedscholarship.csuohio.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021&context=encee_facpub

      “In the early morning hours of May 16, 1968, the occupant of apartment 90 on the 18th floor of the 22-story Ronan Point apartment tower lit a match for her stove to brew her morning cup of tea. The resulting gas explosion, due to a leak, knocked her unconscious. . . . . The gas may have accumulated at the ceiling, explaining why the resident did not notice it”.

      And this is from https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/1022772/refrigerators-mo.pdf :
      “A full [gas] refrigerator service entails removing the refrigerator and cleaning the burners, flue, baffle and associated items. Additionally, the gas jet has to be replaced. All connections are checked, too – ESPECIALLY THE FLAME-FAILURE COUPLINGS” (emphasis added).

      Neil Hambleton

    • JS  June 18, 2017 at 8:11 am

      Very interesting that the new gas pipes were part of the refurbishment of the building, along with the flammable cladding, and that the gas pipes were NOT boxed in with the fire-rated protection, as promised in March. If there are updates on this, please let us know.

  13. David Odell  June 17, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    A fridge cannot explode on it’s own. The warning about vapors is because they have several unsealed electrical connections and solenoids. If the fire started near a fridge, it would most likely be electrical.
    This event puts a face on the income inequality Bernie talks about. The huge number of donations overwhelming the recipients are indicative of the permeating nature of the event. The same thing happened at Standing Rock as the donations exceeded anyones wildest guess. Grenfell will not go away. If they bury it, it will launch an escalation in the protracted struggle between rich and poor. If they are smart, they will get the answers fast and correct. No matter the cost.

    • Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  June 17, 2017 at 10:00 pm

      David: A fridge explosion or faulty wiring are both a Red Herring. If you simply watch the videos, you’ll see insulation inside the building’s surface-cladding catch fire & rapidly spread to all 24 floors.

      The difference in cost for fire-proof insulation versus the flammable insulation that the owners used was a mere £2 per square meter. PM Theresa May knows this. London ex-mayor Boris Johnson (BoJo the Clown) knows this. Both May & BoJo cut budget numbers for police & fire brigades.

      May is also sitting on a London/UK fire safety report, which she would not & will not release (especially now). In Grenfell, there were NO sprinklers & NO fire alarms. The London/UK fire report will contain legislative & building code recommendations for sprinklers & fire alarms for buildings as large as Grenfell. May & BoJo know this. Thus, May & BoJo will NOT release the report.

      May & BoJo are toast. Their political fortunes evaporated with the Grenfell smoke. The last May-Day was June 8. Even Tories are calling on May to resign. In America, it’s 3 strikes & you’re OUT. May & BoJo had their 3 strikes: Manchester, London & Grenfell. As per a reliable ORB poll, 75% of Brit voters say that UK foreign policies attract terrorism in UK.

      May & BoJo have had their last smoke. Grenfell, then May fell… ;-).

    • Mo Stodd  June 18, 2017 at 3:30 am

      Dr. A-B S: Aluminium clad panels do not simply ‘catch fire’. Intense and sustained heat is required which in this case came from a ruptured (implying an explosion) gas main INSIDE the staircase which was also the only means of escape from the upper floors!!! Since the fire brigade with all their equipment could not put out the flames until after the gas was cut off, a sprinkler system would have been of no use at all. The imperative solution is a total ban on the provision of gas inside high rise dwellings. It’s a no-brainer.

      Yes, I know from my own experience that this is unpopular with tenants (not to mention gas providers) because even night-storage electric heaters can’t compete in price with gas central heating. After a fire in one of ‘my’ dwellings, whose tenant had smuggled-in a portable butane heater, we compromised by placing communal boilers on the roofs fed by a permanently visible gas main running up the outer face of the block out of harm’s way, and piping hot water, not gas, into the dwellings.

    • Ian Greenhalgh, Managing Editor  June 18, 2017 at 7:36 am

      After Ronan Point collapsed due to a gas explosion in 1968 you’d think they learned their lesson about gas and high rises. I think the answer to Grenfell is quite simple – a fire started in a flat, it was contained inside the one room, as the design is supposed to do, but when the tower was built, it had metal windows. It got very hot inside that room and the newly installed UPVC windows eventually melted, and this is how the fire escaped that room and ignited the insulation, which is why the whole tower then went up in no time. I heard someone on RT say that if the gas hadn’t been turned off quickly, the tower would have probably blown up like Ronan Point did. Where do you think the rupture in the gas main occurred? The report I heard was that the firemen were only able to reach the 11th floor before the heat and flames stopped them, so I wonder if the rupture was around the 11th floor and that was why the top part of the tower burned like a blowtorch? The end result of this event will hopefully change the way things are done, in the same way that the Hillsborough tragedy lead to drastic changes in how we police crowds and treat football spectators.

    • JS  June 18, 2017 at 8:19 am

      Ian, Mox News quotes residents saying 4th floor origin, and you think 11th floor origin. Well, what if all of you are right? There could have been several simultaneous points of origin, which of course would point to arson, not accident.

  14. Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  June 17, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    Shrimp: The best that you can do is to say: “The Prime Minister has already announced that there will be a cover-up. Of course she didn’t use those exact words. The formula she used was ‘a full public inquiry’, which is Whitehall code for a total whitewash.” ???

    Of course, you also cast aspersions on Labour’s shadow minister and Germans. Have you no shame? Unlike with May & your Tories, what proof do you have that Labour & Germans had anything to do with it?

    You forgot to mention the fire safety report on which PM May still sits and will NOT release anytime soon. You also forgot to mention that, as a result of Grenfell, Brits will probably tell Theresa May: “You’re Fired!” Was waiting for you to tell us that DVD did it. Alas, no DVD?

    Have you ever considered the possibility that DVD/Nazis were/are working with Bibi, Rotten-Child & Co.? Did you know that Skorzeny worked for/with the Mossad. See “The Strange Case of a Nazi Who Became an Israeli Hitman” at http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.711115 (“Otto Skorzeny, one of the Mossad’s most valuable assets, was a former lieutenant colonel in Nazi Germany’s Waffen-SS and one of Adolf Hitler’s favorites”).

    WHEN Corbyn becomes PM (not “If”), what will you do? What will you say? Give us a preview… OK?

    • Eduardo  June 17, 2017 at 3:20 pm

      Thank you Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta. With a little bit of luck you might got Mr Shrimpton thinking.

    • Dr. Abu-Bakr Susta  June 17, 2017 at 4:45 pm

      Eduardo: Si. ?Como No? Shrimp is capable of thought, but he rarely does it in public. Thinking that DVD is to blame for almost all evil is much simpler – with Corbyn & Labour a close second.

      All seriousness aside, the May govt. may well fall due to Grenfell. Grenfell, then May fell? May’s embrace of Trump did not help May on June 8. Trump’s asininity helped Corbyn & Labour.

      May’s cuts to police & firefighters exacerbated Manchester, London & Grenfell. As per a reliable ORB poll, 75% of Brit voters say that UK foreign policies cause an increase in UK terrorism. MI5, MI6 & May were too blind to see this. So, May & Tories lost — bigly. The last real May-Day may have been June 8th — or soon thereafter.

      After Shrimp’s beauty rest, we will soon see what Shrimp has to say — if anything… ;-).

    • JS  June 18, 2017 at 8:40 am

      Dr Susta, you must have missed a few things. There is some evidence in most of his articles, that Mr Shrimpton’s brain/head says Conservative, while his heart says Labour. In the last article, he had nice things to say about Corbyn on a personal level. And in this new article, he says nice things about Bernie Sanders and Sanders’ supporters. If Conservatives would choose someone with a heart, and if Labour would choose someone who had a brain for economics, things would get very interesting.

  15. Paedo hunter  June 17, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    as I write this….at 17th June 9:02 pm GMT the BBC report on the Grenfell death toll is stated at 52, possibly will go as high as 70……now even my wife, who is a dumb Goy and knows not much of Shylocks grip on the west, is screaming at the TV “there’s no way there can be any less than 300 dead there…..why are they lying?” she shouts at the TV……so this event and pack of lies on numbers dead is back firing big time on them….especially as my dear ‘dumb Goy’ wife can see through it…..no offence intended

  16. Paedo hunter  June 17, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    Upon the implementation of the Euro currency (Deutschemark in disguise) I duly informed my uninformed friends of Germany’s take over of Europe by silence with Finance……they now, many years later, agree with me…..Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy and soon France will be indebted to the Bank of Merkel…..anyhoo…..any decent person would dig deep, or even shallow, to help those folks of Grenfell……so it begs the question why our glorious German Queen doesn’t dig deep and unleashes some of her billions (our tax money in the form of ‘her’ salaryto help her peasants…..but I suppose a visit from her will suffice instead eh Lizzie?…..and the peasants will rejoice at her sense of humility…..and caring

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