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The Detroit office, alone admits 16000 "existing" pieces of unopened mail. TELL THE TRUTH. Veterans applications, supporting documents, dependents filings, appeals and other documents absolutely vital to the lives and welfare of veterans and their families have been burned by the millions at offices all over the country.
Every service organization has known this. It has been whispered about for years. Destroying veteran's documents has been an unwritten policy meant to keep down benefit and processing costs. Veterans, dumb enough to follow the "Swift Boat" liars and give awards to candidates who close facilities and cut benefits were thought so stupid as to never open their mouths, no matter what was done to them. Veterans made themselves easy targets. With no real lobby in DC, money earmarked for veterans builds "bridges to nowhere" and pays for invisible "no bid" hospitals in Iraq.
MILLIONS TO LOBBY FOR $600 HAMMERS, NOTHING FOR VETERANS
With no real voice in Washington, except 2 GOP controlled organizations, the American Legion and VFW, destroying veterans lives, the real product of a massive conspiracy, didn't even require a coverup. It was the GOP that underfunded the VA under Bush, during wartime but got full support of the VFW and Legion.
Counting "misplaced" documents is not justice. The VA, through these policies has brought on an American holocaust, reaping death and destruction on veterans and their families with no attempt to bring the criminals to justice. Counting the dead, the homeless and the emotionally crushed at the hands of this conspiracy could take years. When are we going to start? Why have we waited this long?
VETERAN ABUSE IS A WAR CRIME
Should crimes against American veterans be taken to an International Tribunal if nothing is done here? Our veterans are as much victims of war atrocity as anyone in Bosnia, Rwanda or Darfur. Picture every piece of "mail" as a family on the street, children in poverty and malnutrition or a suicide. If you think this isn't happening, its time you started looking around you.
VA RETALIATION AGAINST 'WHISTLEBLOWERS': SILENCE AT GUNPOINT
VA employee's themselves, who may choose to speak up would be retaliated against and could even face prosecution by Bush Justice Department officials or investigation by the FBI. There was no length the government wouldn't go to when it came to making sure that VA employees would never reach the media. Look at the damage 2 Washington Post reporters did at Walter Reed. Can you imagine what any real investigation of the VA would turn up?
A full administrative, Congressional, Justice Department and GAO review of all reports of VA abuse and the retaliation against those who risked their lives and freedom to save our veterans deserves a full investigation. There may be thousands of VA employees out there, some deserving Medals of Honor for heroism, many deserving prison. We can't wait for God to sort them out.
It is time to empower a grand jury in every Federal jurisdiction.
Nothing the VA has done for years has been credible, into the Reagan Administration, at least. Every physical, every appeal, every finding has to be reopened. The destruction of documents is only the current scandal. Every claim in the system or denied earlier has the stench of fraud, coverup and lies at the hands of the VA on it.
Every appeal denied, and every appeal is denied, is a violation of Civil Rights and Equal Protection under the Constitution. Veterans have become the most hated and abused minority since the Apaches.
Do veterans all have to join the Communist party or become athiests before the ACLU will notice them?
For years, medical care has been withheld, tests falsified and veterans have been allowed to die of diseases that were diagnosed but never treated. Friends working in VA facilities regularly reported that test results were left out of patients records on a regular basis or even falsfied. Many test samples were simply discarded and tests never run.
With the ability to destroy, mutilate, falsify, hack or delete anything, all with impunity from oversite by Congress and the GAO, the VA has simply run amok.
VA SPENDING: SHOVELING MONEY INTO A HOLE WITH NO BOTTOM
With billions spent on buildings, treatment, compensation and employee expenses and absolutely no accountability to any authority for where money actually goes or what is accomplished, every cent spent, every billion allocated, is potential waste.
There is no reliable measure of value or quality when every record is suspect. No VA facility can prove that any statistic or report given is free of falsified data. With no accountability, we have no idea whatsoever regarding the management quality of the largest medical organization on Earth.
OUR "ATTENTION DEFICIT" NEWS, HAND MAIDENS TO CORRUPTION
Once a report of abuse in one office hits a newspaper, as it had in Detroit, news organizations lose interest immediately unless there is a potential "spin" that will serve their political masters. Independent news in America died with Watergate.
Few investigations go further than the superficial. Investigative reporters who show the tenacity of Woodward and Bernstein have, over the past few years, had an unlucky streak. Ask Gary Webb or Mike Ruppert or Mark Lombardi among the dozens of others silenced.
Anyone who doesn't think digging to deep can get a child run over on the way to school or cause a mysterious illness or suicide lives in a statistical Disneyland.
IF THEY CAN DESTROY MILLIONS OF RECORDS OF VETERANS, WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO?
Could our government invade a country based on falsified intelligence? Could food, utility, gasoline, insurance and other costs all be "fixed" by industries acting in concert covered by powerful friends in Washington?
Could our financial system be looted of hundreds of billions of dollars or more with government regulators openly helping the criminals?
Could our military become a branch of a political party, becoming openly involved in elections and illegally lobbying for a foreign policy supporting continual war?
Has crime become so inherently a part of our government that band aids are considered solutions and everyone has given up, either out of fear or hopelessness?
The VA forgets veterans even before our school books have a chance to fictionalize the wars they served in.
What chance do veterans do have when foreign dictators with gold, diamonds or oil, can buy more influence in our own government than our own heroes long disenfranchised by service organizations, some of which are controlled by entrenched DC bureaucrats or political extremists?
Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on political and social issues.
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By CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.) on 2009-03-10 15:41:56
This is a powerful article. Does anyone know, even in a general way, exactly how much money in backpay and late benefits are owed to American veterans? It must be in the tens of billions of dollars.
By Ray A. Lawson on 2009-03-17 10:31:00 CWO3 Tom Barnes ask the right question and is directly on the right
track, concerning Veterans BackPay! As we speak my claim is pending
for Retro Active. Even up to this date the Decision Process is taking too long.
It's probably staggering...and really, for all the veterans, spouses, and families who have been directly effected by this negligence and some of them now dead without ever receiving compensation, it's almost a mute point other than the retribution to some of the VA leadership (I use that term jokingly).
This is just mind-bending in its implications...I really want to see some people indicted over this and for the VA to step up and do the right thing, if that means re-adjudicating and giving new C&P exams to ALL veterans regardless of age, rating them fairly, and providing back-pay accrued is only the first step at rertribution.
That BITCH in New Mexico who sent a memo to all her junior raters ordering them to deny all claims of PTSD and reducing them to "failure to adapt" should be indicted, fired, and fined/imprisoned for her lack of compassion and dereliction of duty, minimum!!
I am disabled, have severe PTSD, and have been termed "unemployable" by the VA, yet I do not receive IU...go figure...and the appeal is dragging its happy feet along...I don't regret one minute of my time in the Marine's...I miss it terribly and would go back in a heartbeat...but I'm honestly ashamed of this country which I love so very much and watched my friends die and be maimed for this...this is criminal!!
By Duffster on 2009-03-10 17:00:13 There is a separate form for filing for IU.
Always keep copies of forms and send everything to the VA via certified mail, return receipt requested.
It takes at least 60% rating to qualify for IU.
If you qualify, download the form and send it in immediately.
If your rating is under 60%, please go to:
www.drelainetripi.com
She may be able to help.
Great comment.
Thanks
g
A 4 April 2008 Board of Veterans’ Appeals letter was an “unable to locate” their previously in-hand over one foot high stack of from 1952 and underlying Project 7210 evidence. During an ongoing 18 years there has been no U.S. Congress response to the Project 7210, 135 decibel (dB) to 177 dB then certain noise level injuries to 77 other flight line personnel. This unprotected exposure was in direct disobedience of the 1948 Air Force Regulation (AFR) 160-3 with its max. of 95 dB.
Again provided were over 100 VA “certified” copies of the veteran’s still in-hand proof of the Menieres disease, 100% unemployability awards and the Project 7210 consequences. In reference to these award resulting resubmissions, a VA 10/16/08 letter noted “...because of insufficient or inaccurate information we cannot identify the proper record.” Part of the evidence was of the VA Boston Regional Office Rating Board’s 7/9/57 clear and unmistakable error (CUE) of their awarded hearing loss only. This is proven by their 4/26/57 examining physician’s 4/3/58 submission of the before the 7/9/57 Board CUE evidence that resulted in the still ignored USAF SURGEON’S 6/25/58, “PERMANENTLY MEDICALLY DISQUALIFIED FOR MILITARY SERVICE”! A yet again resubmitted and to date VA refused to address error!
The 130 page July 1956 USAF Project 7210 Technical Report (TR) 54-401 records the noise levels for 27 versions of 10 jet-engines in 1952 to 1956 U. S. Military service; see “contrails.iit.edu”, under its “search” use “TR 54-401". The flight line overall “very high noise levels” range from 135 dB, at a 6,144 sound pressure multiple (X), to 177 dB (@ 815,583 X)! This with this veteran’s in-hand documentation could help the 77, e.g., “Had some trouble with hearing while working on warm-up crew for F-86 D with very high noise levels.” The physician’s 29 Jan. 54 USAF Cadet Wing Commander washout statement. All flight line personnel at Tyndall AFB, Panama City, FLA. were unprotected and subjected to the “very high noise levels”. All worked well within a 50 feet radius and were injured in direct disobedience of the AFR 160-3 required protection. For F-86D personnel it is the then known certain J47-GE-1 jet-engine injury, i.e., TR pages 68-75, “Test Group 10, Date of the Tests: 1952, Test Numbers 62-64". This is an at 50 feet 158 dB noise level with an 87,381 X. Fifteen (15) of the 77 were repeatedly exposed to a “warm-up crew” 176 dB level of over 699,051 X vs. the AFR 160-3, 95 dB at 59 X! The AMA Family Medical Guide 3d edition, page 365 is the sound pressure multiple (X) source. Its 60 dB “Normal conversation” is the base line for the calculated “...sound pressure doubles with an increase of 6 decibels” 87,381 X to 699,051 X.
The question is not if these 77 unprotected individuals were injured but how badly! AIR FORCE SERIAL NUMBERS (AFSN) ARE AVAILABLE FOR EACH OF THE LISTED 77 OTHER USAF PERSONNEL. 1952 - 1956 JET AIRCRAFT MECHANICS, AFSC 43131H AND 43151C. NO. NAME. NO. NAME. 1. APPLEYARD, WILLIAM L. 40. HOWARD, ROY W. 2. BATES, JOE H. 41. HOWARTH, WALLACE R. 3. BAVIS, HARRY G. 42. HURLEY, DAVID W. 4. BERRY, DENNIE 43. IENSE, WILLIAM A. 5. BERSTRON, ELLERY D. 44. IRVIN, JAMES E. 6. BERTRAND, ROBERT E. 45. JANDRON, PAUL J. 7. BONASERA, JOSEPH E. 46. JONES, GLEN R. 8. BONE, J. E. 47. JONES JR, BOBBY 9. BRITTAIN, THOMAS W. 48. JUNG, WESLEY E. 10. BUMPUS, JOE E. 49. JUSTICE, HERMAN M. 11. CADRETTE, EUCLID J. 50. KEAN, RONALD B. 12. CARNEY, JOHN F. 51. KELLY, HAROLD R. 13. CLARK JR, CHESTER H. 52. KELLY JR, GERALD L. 14. CODORI, JOSEPH B. 53. LARKOWSKI, GERALD G. 15. COUNCIL JR, JAMES I. 54. LEWIS JR, FRANKLIN 16. CRISWELL, WILLIAM G. 55. LOCKIEY, REGINAID E. 17. DONALDSON, WILLIAM A. 56. LOGSDON, ELMO W. 18. DUESLER, JOHN H. 57. LONG, EARL T. 19. DUNBAR, LEROY W. 58. LOVE, JERRY K. 20. EWTON, JAMES E. 59. LYCAN, EDWARD S. 21. FLENING, JACK E. 60. MORGAN, WARNER L. 22. FRITZ, JOHN A. C. 61. MULLINS, JIMMY A. 23. GILAM, JAT T. 62. MURPH
"What chance do veterans do have when foreign dictators with gold, diamonds or oil, can buy more influence in our own government than our own heroes long disenfranchised by service organizations, some of which are controlled by entrenched DC bureaucrats or political extremists?"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OUR ONLY CHANCE "CIVIL WAR" WITH EXTREME PREGIDOUS! THIS IS THE ANSWER...
and YOU HaVENT EVEN ADDRESSed TEH DISBLED AND HOMeLESs VETS ARE NOT MY JOB SYNDROME.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REFUSAL TO ADVOCATE IN ers AND other va clincis by mds phds and social workers IS BLOcKING MANY who have TOO many or wrong needs from care. check put programs- able to work in 30 days. means disabled are left out out. IN THE ROAD. IT'S WHY MANY DIE. AND NOT BEING ADDRESSED.
WHEN Denied form or HARMED IN PER DIEM PROGRAm FRom disablity viaoltions its covered up not cleaned up and MANY hospital msws phd and mds say sad spo sad , but NOT MY JOB. VA patient reps are limited and quality controllers also lower in "rank" than those creating the problems are not authorized to demand repair of bad quality.
homeless mulit disabled in agaony, was denied over and over care then repair finally a PT APPOINTMENT i was offered -pt by zerox- DO IT yourself and worse to be done while often starving and living in the back seat of a car?
So many people out of work could and would do better, those at VA with "not my job syndrome" NEED to not have the job.
Just wondering how many other veterans applying for disability have been told as my husband has that he did not complain about whatever and therefore is denied his claim.
By Trish on 2009-03-11 16:43:55 Sorry I should clarify this. My husband did complain but was turned away for either being supposedly alcoholic or drug dependant. Or his records if he was treated have mysteriously disappeared.
This problems of "lost Records Sysdrome" trannscends all services and all times. I am attempting to gain recognition for some 10,000 US Merchant Marine seamen that were lost, denied, neglected or forgotten. They havae passed laws that provided US Veterans tatus for trhose that werved during the WW II timeframe. Yet these seamen are repeatedly denied recognition because no records exists to prove they sailed the seas then. We have found the caouse but the US Government is in denial and don't seem to wish to do anything about it. I have just jsent this forward to my members of congress to alert them of this travesty. jdon Dear 10 Mar 2009 LEST WE FORGET
Requests for recognition as veterans of the US Merchant Marine during WW II have been denied repeatedly denied by the NMC because records are not available that show service during the timeframe required. There were some 10,000 mariners that served on seagoing barges. Five members of my family were among them. These seamen have all been left behind, denied and forgotten. Two specific actions taken by the USCG and the Maritime Administration have resulted in the National Maritime Center (NMC) denying these seamen their well earned benefits as US Veterans. (1) On 20 March, 1944, the Commandant, USCG issued orders to masters of tugs, towboats and seagoing barges relieving them of the responsibility of submitting shipping and discharge forms (718A) to seamen shipped, (2) USCG Reference Information Paper #77, page 3 states, “After WWII the deck and engine logbooks of vessels operated by the WSA were turned over to that agency (Maritime Administration) by the ship owners and were destroyed during the 1970s” The NMC repeatedly denies applicants eligibility because records do not exists.
USCG Reference Information Paper #77 of April, 1992, Page 1 indicates acceptable forms of documentation are: (a) Certificate of discharge (Form 718A); (b) Continuous Discharge Books, (Deck log books) and (c) Company letters showing vessel names and dates. These old wooden hulled barges were obsolete when they were called back into services in WW II and have long since been replaced by larger and more modern self propelled vessels, placing both the companies and their records lost to history.
These two actions by government agencies have compromised the efforts of these 10,000 or so seamen from obtaining their proper recognition and benefits while serving on those seagoing barges. They have removed items (1) & (2) as acceptable forms of eligibility. The loss of the companies and their records removes the only other contention, making the effort for recognition almost useless. Alternate methods are required if we are to recognize these honorable seamen. This nation cannot stand by and allow this travesty to continue. WW II Veterans are dying at the rate of 850 per day and there is precious time left to assist those that remain. Action must be swift to assist those left to enjoy their recognition. We have recognized the Filipino veteran; surely we can do the same for our own. Costs have already been set aside under P.L. 95-202 & 105-368 making this administrative legislation only. Efforts to gain assistance from the chartered VSOs brought forth very limited response; as if they have forgotten their purpose. These barge people served in harm’s way on the Atlantic Coast making thousands of trips in waters continuously patrolled by the savage German wolf pack submarines that were making daily sinking’s of our merchant ships. Their speed of 4 knots and without armed protection, made them sitting ducks just waiting to be the next victim. We owe them dearly. We have talked the talk. Now let’s walk the walk. Please offer this to congress and square our debt to them. With the mortality rate as high as it is, we can hardly wait any longer. Please notify me of your actions. Very Respectfully J. D. Horton 104 Riverview Ave, Camden, NC 27921. PROPOSAL
By CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.) on 2009-03-12 03:51:48
This problem with government pensions going to disabled soldiers and sailors in this country literally goes back to the Civil War in my family. The first Tom Barnes born in this country in my family was a Union Civil War veteran who was shot TWICE by Confederate troops and lived the rest of his life as a hobbling cripple with two canes used to walk. According to my father's mother who was his grand daughter-in-law, he had one topic of conversation at all times....and that was how the government was screwing him out of a pension he had earned. He spent his life a hopeless drunk because the pain was so great and the wounds never healed properly.
He was born in 1841 and died in 1925. My father was five when he died. He told me once while he was alive that he barely remembers this old guy who used to wear a Union kepi on his head all the time. He said that he was a mean old bastard that would hit anyone with one of his cane if they got too close to his legs. All he did was drink and complain about how the War Department was screwing him over his pension. He literally could not talk about anything else.
When I was declared totally disabled I looked at the VSO and said, "This money is for Old Tom Barnes and me. He finally got his money!". He had no idea what I was talking about.
Think about this....just for a small comparison...if an individual or group of individuals of a private insurance company responsible for benefits payable to their employees did something similar to this even on a much, much smaller scale..you can surely bet that the class-action suit would be severe and individuals within that company would be destroyed via the penal system.
The VA needs to be overhauled and reorganized...there is no other way to logically go about it. Those people even remotely responsible for any of these acts must be punished up to the maximum allowable punishment available to them IAW applicable laws and guidelines.
The VA must allow Veteran's to re-initiate their claims all over again regardless of their age and be afforded due-process in a fair and consistent manner. All those still living that are due benefits should be paid accordingly with intrest accrued for any monies due to them.
This can never be "righted" fully....but the VA has got to step up and do the right thing for once....the audacity and sheer negligence and malice shown to veterans disgusts me almost to a homicidal rage against these people responsible. I wonder how many of these people ever served on Active Duty, let alone ever served during a conflict...that I'd like to know honestly. I bet most of them have never left the continental US.
I sincerely hope that the Grand Jury does get involved in this, and that an independent inspection agency getst he reigns to the VA records to prosecute these miserable excuses for humans and charges them accordingly....many should be fined and imprisoned and warrant Felonies. While this will never undo the wrong's, maybe they will feel just a bit of the anguish, disgust, and anger that we have felt and continue to feel. Abraham Lincoln would puke if he knew what the VA has turned into and evolved from its inception.
If we wait for the VA to be revamped and get cleaned up? Most of us who have filed claims will be dead and gone! My claims have been in appeals for four years and I am a 61 year old Vietnam Vet. Most of us who have been treated in a VA medical Hospital have been used as guinea pigs for surgeons who are in training to be doctors. In my case for a simple retina detachment surgery has left me blind after having 3 surgeries three months in a row to correct what should have been very easily repaired the 1st time. I refuse to be treated by a VA hospital again. Too many horror stories for simple surgeries gone bad! The VA is government controlled and dictated to by our beloved President and His cronies no matter who is in office. I feel that all veterans should get the same benefits that a senator, congressman or president gets! Once you served you should receive full wages and benefits for the rest of your life. That would eliminate any controversy and eliminate the billions of dollars needed to run a defunct system called VA.
Fellow Veteran and friends of same; Please read the letter posted on http://www.wesupportthevets.com in respect to what President Obama intends to do with veterans medical coverage. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SHOULD INITIATE LETTERS AND PHONE CALLS TO YOUR LEGISLATORS. Please note: Email, chain letters and fax correspondences are deleted at the Senator's office when the subject is this topic. Please PHONE or WRITE your Legislator and protest what is about to take place. On behalf of the disabled veterans of the United States, we thank you for your help and you have our gratitude for this assistance. Bill Gast USN (ret) DAV
By Ray Howard on 2009-04-19 04:47:35 Bill, I have been talking to my Sentor or Congressman for 8 years and have got not where,yes they can ask about claim but have been told straight that they have NO power over the VA Dept,when I ask who is the Boss of these people(VA) know one can say.So if and when you find out who we can talk to (with the power) and talk person to person PLEASE let me know,Thank you Bill, Ray2army@aol.com
By Jim Davis, Veterans Advocate, Garden Grove, CA on 2009-03-22 15:58:00
I see many problems in the VA system, document shredding, thousands if not millions of pieces of mail not opened, VARO staff getting hundreds and thousands in bonuses, over a million claims and appeals all pending some bozo to review and read documentation, lack of high quality VAMC's and medical professionals, Veteran Service Organizations literally raking in millions of dollars in membership fee's and donations that do absolutely NOTHING for the Veteran. Veteran Service Officers who are either improperly trained, not able to read, learn or comprehend all policies and procedures in filing of claims and appeals, or just down right stupid or lazy!
And this is only the very smallest tip of the iceberg!
We have 535 over paid, pompous jerks in Congress who for the most part can talk the talk, but sure as hell can’t walk the walk! They may go into office broke as all hell, but they sure as hell come out richer than God himself with one hell of a retirement plan!
If we rely on the Veteran Service Organizations to stand up for Veterans, think again! They never will unless they’re PAID to!
I really don’t think it was veterans outrage that the VFW and American Legion stepped up to the plate to stop the billing private insurance carriers like President Obama wanted, I think it was insurance lobbyists who PAID all the VSO’s to step up!
So tell me who was looking out for whom? Self interests of the VSO’s?
I know it’s hard to accept for most, and most will blast my ass right off the earth for having said this, but next time you can attend a national meeting, go ahead, ask them WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR ME TODAY? That’s IF you ever get a straight answer from them.
Then ask them and request they prove to you beyond a doubt how much they collected and how much they actually GAVE to veterans in need! Not the local posts, I mean the national commanders!
If veterans really want to see change, then you will have to take responsibility and step up to the plate again, this time not for your country, but for yourself, your spouse, your children, be pro-active and speak out, make your voice heard!
I founded a group called Veterans-For-Change, we speak loud and clear every month to all 535 members of Congress, so if you have the 30-60 minutes a month to work from your computer to be more involved, please contact me at: jdavis90813@hotmail.com!
I personnelly would like to know how my mri's in Gainsville Florida shows screws in my spine when I haven't had any surgery at all. I have had angioplastic on t 12. Somebody must have had surgery on there spine using my x-rays. My case is 12 years old now and I was told it was in washington BVA appeals mangement section.
It is a bad day for Veterans when you go in front of the DRO and the BVA and can feel the claim has already be desided,And the transcript was full of neg statements ,with some that I never made.How can a Veteran over ride this kind of B.S. , Ray Howard
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DESTROYED LIVES SIMPLY "MISCONDUCT"
It is time to empower a grand jury in every Federal jurisdiction.
