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Special Report: Attention President Obama: Who Issued the Order to Spy on America's Veterans?
Posted on July 03, 2009 by rbrock
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Veterans Administration

VA-SPYGATE

by Bob Rosebrock, Staff Writer

The federal government's surveillance van that was parked within 100 feet of the 67th consecutive Sunday Rally to “Save Our Veterans Land” on June 28th, was an affront to every American Veteran and a mockery against our U.S. Constitution and the American way of life.

Fellow Veterans have repeatedly requested for regime change at the West Los Angeles VA Medical Healthcare Center. These federal bureaucrats have insulted and transgressed against America's Veterans for the very last time.

These insults and transgressions now rest squarely upon your shoulders.

Mr. President, you've stated: “We have a sacred trust with those who wear the uniform of the United States of America.” If what happened last Sunday is your idea of a “sacred trust” toward America's Veterans, then you need to resign as Commander-in-Chief, posthaste.

However, if this is contrary to your beliefs, then it is imperative for you to immediately identify the person(s) in your Administration who issued the order to send a surveillance van to spy upon America's Veterans who were peacefully demonstrating outside the largest VA in the nation?

This is Independence weekend Mr. President. For 233 years, men and women have sacrificed and dedicated their lives for the safety and independence of all others. 

To allow this weekend to escape without your naming the culprits who ordered the spying upon innocent Veterans of World War II, Korea and Vietnam will forever remain an insult to every man and woman who has worn the Uniform and will be a blight on you and your Administration.

Moreover, you owe an apology to not only those individual Veterans who had their civil rights directly violated on June 28th, but to every American Veteran for this shameful and disgraceful transgression. 

Robert L. Rosebrock
Director, The Veterans Revolution
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By Mike on 2009-07-03 13:44:24
I would think the Governor of California should be asked for an apology and to explain these actions since it took place in his state.


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  • By Da_old_warrant on 2009-07-03 16:02:40
    Nope, federal land not part of calif.



By Estelle Goldman on 2009-07-03 18:05:35
And where was Congressman Henry Waxman during this encounter? This is his Congressional District. Let's see him stand up for the Veterans as well as Congressman Brad Sherman in whose Congressional District the Sepulveda is in. Where are these brave Congressmen who NEVER served our country???


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  • By Da_old_warrant on 2009-07-03 21:48:26
    Have we notified him loudly and publicly....If you live in his district you can ask him on his web site.


  • By Jim, Vietnam Veteran on 2009-07-04 07:06:55
    Where was any politician? Not a one supports veterans today unless it benefits them politically.


  • By Snow Man on 2009-07-04 20:29:41
    Have you ever looked at Waxmans NIOSE ? Those big holes kinda redish brown around the edges as if irriated, by something ? Think it could be the smog ? Or maybe it is just to much dust ?



By Jimi Belton, Ist Air Cav, Vn on 2009-07-04 17:26:27
well most of america or at least enough wanted change to put this commie in office, so we have what we have,,, now we of the other side must try and change that,,,


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By L.A. Martin on 2009-07-04 07:18:42
I tried to tell you when you were pushing for him as the President,hes not what he seems-you'll regret voting for this terrorist


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By Wescos on 2009-07-05 21:37:00
Morons, you think your ranting here will matter one ioda, you really do? Gimme a break you speak poorly of the ones you seek to do something about this ?
Where were you when Bushco was running things? Lets not forget the Nicholson agenda, you are getting more support from this administration at every level and you complain that you want more?
You order POTUS to investigate? HA! That'll work huh?
Get off the dope yer smoikn and wise up.
You are an embarrasment to every one, and your efforts get no traction, you are being ignored at every turn already, the public ignores you more at the traffic light every day.


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  • By Robert Rosebrock on 2009-07-05 22:30:31
    Let's stick to the issue of this article and the question to President Obama: Who Issued the Order to Spy on America 's Veterans?


  • By Watcher on 2009-07-05 23:04:30
    what a hoot, you stand around demonstrating and you cant figure out why the gvt has an eye on you cause why? yer a vet? you espouse revolt as means to an end, a veterans revolution? Get serious yer dillusional if you think you are not to be watched, you think your special, above the laws that the rest of us live by? Nobody must have ordered anything, they had bigger fish to fry, they know you are out there what was special about you that day meathead. Youre not worth watching except in your own paranoia, the press isnt covering you at all on this one and the president? He has his attention on much more important matters than your silly protests that arent going anywhere fool. Youve damaged your own cause. And you demand? Yeah right.


  • By Robert Rosebrock on 2009-07-06 05:46:14
    Watcher and Wesco - The question in this article is directed to President Obama: "Who Issued the Order to Spy on America's Veterans?" What's the matter, are you afraid that it was Obama who issued the order? You are both phonies and frauds, lapdogs of the sleazy VA bureaucrats and corrupt politicians. Anybody who would attack the noble mission of World War II, Korean and Vietnam Veterans that defend their sacred land are nothing but slaves of the sleazy VA and bureaucrats and corrupt politicians. Anybody who would not defend Veterans whose Civil Rights were seriously violated by the tyrants, are in bed with the tyrants. Anybody who would attack the heroics of two Purple Heart, combat wounded Veterans that stood up to the VA's Gestapo police, and backed them down, are nothing but two-bit blog thugs serving as useless idiots of the perpetrators. Why don't you both pack up your computers like your pathetic surveillance hack packed up his phony gardener tools and leave? And "watcher," It's Veterans to you and spelled with a capital V, and not "vets." That's where sick bastards like you take your sick animals. And Wesco, what Veteran really gives a twit about what you think? Moreover, what Veteran really gives a damned about what the "public" thinks, particularly those greedy whores that live off the sacrifices of America's Veterans and try to steal their deeded land? You are both disgraceful servants of the disgraceful tyrants that spied upon innocent Veterans who were exercising their First Amendment Rights. May God have mercy on your sorry asses because The Veterans Revolution sure won't. President Obama: Who Issued the Order to Spy on America's Veterans?



By Rheeesearcher on 2009-07-05 22:55:48
your all so connected there this tid bit at the obama web site? hyocrites you are-

http://students.barackobama.com/page/community/group/MA-2-NH/2008/02

veteran in boston areA NEEDED
By darlene matthews - Feb 2nd, 2008 at 9:13 am EST
Also listed in: 5 groups Calling all friends of the Veterans Today Network, a fellow friend needs to get the word out on the TV.
Veteran Needed for TV Interview ASAP!Debbie Burak, President of VeteranAid.org is in need of finding someone for a story segment with a CBS affiliate in Boston. She is asking if we know anyone who can participate. She is looking for someone in the Boston, MA area who has filed for or attempted application for the Aid and Attendance Pension Benefit.

The segment is being built around the lack of knowledge and frustrations in dealing with the VA. This individual would also need to be willing to be interviewed by the reporter.

She can be reached through by cell phone at (804) 908-5128 or email her atVetHelp@VeteranAid.org Have a Great Veterans Today Network Day!

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By Robert Rosebrock on 2009-07-06 00:20:27
Watcher: At least you got one thing right -- you're a "watcher" sitting on your fat ass watching others do the work. You are clueless and it's sell-out losers like you that cause all the problems for other Veterans as you kiss up to the corrupt politicians and sleazy VA bureaucrats. You'd throw any Veteran under the bus to pat yourself on your big ass. So stick to the thing you do best and that is sitting on your big fat ass watching others get the job done -- you are just another uselelss idiot of the corrupt politicians and sleazy VA bureaucrats.


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By Joe Romo, Jr. on 2009-07-06 15:21:19
Bob before you start to rag on people on their negativity please research "Posse Comitatus" that was established just after the civil war empowering the US Army to enforce the law until local law enforcemment could be established in all communities.


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  • By Robert Rosebrock on 2009-07-06 18:20:59
    Joe: Unless you were there on Sunday, June 28th, and had your Civil Rights violated, how could you possibly consider anything in defense of that being negative? The only thing I need to read is the U.S. Constitution, the Congressional Act of l1887 and the Deed of 1888 to know all that I need to know to stand up for The Veterans Revolution of the 21st Century. Just show up at the Sunday Rallies. That's a positive, but when you don't show up, that's a negative. And that's not ragging -- that's a fact!



By Alfred Tennyson on 2009-07-06 19:29:31
Robert,

If conjecture and ad hominem attacks were the equivalent of mortars and ammunition, the Veterans Revolution might be well on its way to a military victory. Unfortunately, that is not the case and any legitimate concerns you and other members of the “revolution” may have are being undermined by your over-the-top screeds against everyone from Obama down to the local VA Administration. You twist facts and purposefully omit other information in order to demonize those you see as not sharing your agenda. You also like to talk a lot about victims here, Robert, so let’s talk about a few of your victims.
The real victims here are the elderly members of the revolution who stand out on the street corner in the sun every Sunday hoping to sway public opinion in your favor. Do you honestly believe that displaying the American Flag upside down will have any effect on the community other than to alienate it from your cause? I think it is safe to say the average motorist is not intimately knowledgeable with U.S. flag protocol. In the 5-10 seconds of their attention you command, you are doing more damage to your reputation than anything. Ever read “Charge of the Light Brigade,” Robert? You have brought together a valiant ‘light brigade’ of volunteers and ultimately sabotaged any chance of making a difference through your misguided leadership and character attacks.
Robert, my advice to you– read “How to Win Friends and Influence People” and fire yourself as the self appointed PR agent (or should I say Propaganda Minister). You really get what you pay for, you know.


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  • By Robert Rosebrock on 2009-07-06 21:31:49
    Alfred: Please come to a Sunday Rally and let's talk. It's easy to sit back in judgment when you haven't been on the firing line every day (not not to mention 68 consecutive Sundays.) We have been spyed upon, lied to, called every name in the book by the VA and the politicians but we keep fighting and winning. This is not a spectator sport. Go back in these comments and read the insults against me. Yet you, nor anybody else, wants to address the one single question for the moment: "Who issued the order to spy on America's Veterans." You don't want to find that answer but would rather take cheap shots at me about reading books that I've already read. Read the U.S. Constitution and in particular our First Amendment Rights, the Congressional Act of 1887, the Deed of 1888. This land was deeded to be permanently maintained as National Home for Disabled Soldiers. There should never be a homeless Veteran, yet there are more than 20,000 of our fellow Veterans fending for themselves on the streets of LA. Had you been with Walter Martin, Luis Rivera and myself today when we stood beside a fellow Veteran who is in rehabilitation at the VA but was being retaliated against for speaking the truth, you wouldn't be so high-and-mighty and self-righteous in condemning my efforts and. Please, I don't need lectures from you; just show up at the Sunday Rallies and you will walk away with a whole different attitude. The reason the VA bureaucrats and corrupt politicians have screwed over Veterans for so long is because of this soft, politically correct BS that you speak. There's been more progress and advancement against the "enemy" in the past year with the Veterans Revolution than over the past two decades of nicey-nice talk at monthly meetings. "Who issued the order to spy on America's Veterans?"


  • By Robert Rosebrock on 2009-07-07 05:24:27
    Alfred: There's little one can say to someone like you who thumps his chest for doing nothing but criticizes those who fight the good fight. Since you have so much time to sit and read rather than stand and do, read what Teddy Roosevelt had to say about the critics and the doers: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." See you at the Sunday Rallies. God Bless America and The Veterans Revolution!




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