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HELLO
Opinion: VA Versus IRS
Posted on July 11, 2009 by gm
by Debbie Burak
As the backlogged number of unprocessed VA claims is knocking on the door of 1 Million, one has to wonder is anybody really at home. Is anyone really trying to find "the" solution of how to fix and bring this broken agency up to the standards our veterans and their families deserve?
I had high hopes for the new VA administration, but to date, have not been impressed. Every day there is yet another story about a Regional Office that has been caught shredding and changing dates on applications, or boxes of unopened applications are being discovered.
There are not enough fingers to cover the holes in this dam.
If the IRS was having this issue with collecting taxes from "We the People", I can promise you that this would have been resolved and systems put into place to make certain it would never happen again. Of this you can be certain, the IRS would not stand by and have 1 million tax returns waiting to be processed.
So here is my take on all this and a couple of questions that I believe bear asking.
I think the VA needs to take a crash course in how the IRS does things. These folks don't loose tax returns they keep up with every dime you make. You can file on-line, they know if you haven't filed, and if you are owed a refund, you can expect it in 30-45 days. If you owe money and don't pay, you are assessed a penalty and will pay dearly for that. Big incentive for making sure you allot the right amount of deductions. Most of us hope to never know what an audit notification looks like.
If your taxes are complicated or more than you want to deal with, you can make an appointment with the fine folks at H&R Block or your personal accountant and pay someone to prepare them for you.
Now here is where I take issue. How is it that you can legally seek the expertise of someone who understands complicated tax laws, forms, and all the legitimate deductions and credits you are entitled to just to make certain that the IRS gets a full accounting of your finances and their piece of your pie, but veterans and their families legally are restricted from any assistance attached with a fee and are left to figure it out on their own.
Two government agencies, two different approaches, two different agendas.
It is legal to make sure you pay your taxes, but illegal to make certain your claim for benefits is correct and complete in order to "receive" your entitlements. Interesting that there should be such a stark contrast between the two and who actually benefits from this arrangement.
Decades ago the VA instituted a law that an attorney could not charge a veteran more than $10.00 for representing him. This was done to "protect" the veteran from being taken advantage of by those who would be so inclined to do so.
So one might have to ask, who is truthfully exploiting and taking advantage of our veterans and their families? Considering some recent actions on the part of the VA, the answer to this question may not be what you'd expect.
The application for Improved Pension was originally a 4-page, simple straight forward application. Due to the benefit being highlighted and the rise in the number of applications being submitted, the VA decided it was time to increase it to a 26-page application, and write it so that you probably won't figure it out increasing the odds they won't have to pay or at the very least delay having to pay.
While the benefit sat idle and unused, 4 pages seemed to make perfect sense. Now that Baby-Boomers are our largest demographic and the VA is being flooded with applications for Aid and Attendance, whose best interest is it in that the process should suddenly become so much more complicated? The veteran is not who first comes to mind as to who stands to gain the most from this change. It seems a little suspect as to the true motivation for having done so. Is the VA once again "protecting" the veteran?
If you don't get it right the first time, you should not feel too badly about it as the national rate of applications being returned to the originating VA regional and local offices as being incomplete or missing documentation is 46%.
I wonder if these same employees who failed VA "Open Book" tests could find permanent employment with the IRS. I suspect that performance standards are probably just a "little" higher. Millions of taxpayer's monies going uncollected - not going to happen, but it is ok for a million veterans to be waiting on the VA to get it right. There is something incredibly wrong with this scenario.
The VA continues to operate off an antiquated "Fiduciary" process refusing to acknowledge POA or DPOA. The IRS acknowledges POA. Your mom or dad might have some investments that pay dividends, so there may be some monies to be collected, so for the sake of efficiency they will gladly work with you to assure a proper return has been filed.
The VA's refusal to respond to the demands of accepting POA and doing away with the fiduciary process is once again done in the name of "protecting" the veteran. According to the VA they have to make certain that the family member or other interested party who holds POA can't take advantage of the veteran or widow and have access to the pension money to spend at their discretion such as purchasing Depends or Ensure.
I'm sure that somewhere there is someone who absconded with funds they were not entitled to and did in fact take advantage of a veteran, but I'm willing to wager a guess that most who are providing care for a loved one have spent the check out of their own pocket long before it is received.
It is the lesser of two evils. On one hand you have the family member who is taking advantage of the veteran or widow by writing a check every month to the ALF or caregiver hoping they will have enough to pay it as credit cards are maxed out and all funds have been depleted while waiting to be approved as a fiduciary.
On the other hand you have the VA who wants to take months to arrange for a fiduciary to be appointed without much care as to how you will pay for everything pending their approval. In the meantime if you have to move your loved one to a lesser quality facility due to costs, or arrange to bring them in-home and provide the care yourself, keep in mind the VA is only doing their job and "protecting" the veteran or widow.
So if the veteran is doing without basic essentials and is living in conditions that are not healthy or services being provided are not adequate even though they are entitled to the pension which would allow for better care and services, who is really taking advantage of the veteran?
All of this "protecting" has created an "opportunity for many individuals and companies to "Carpe Diem" - Seize the Moment and many of these folks, but not all, have found a way to use filing for this pension as a revenue generator, and doing so under the guise of reaching out to veterans and their families at no cost for their assistance to make application, but it sure helps if mom and dad need someone to manage their investments and move them around so they will qualify for the pension from a financial standpoint.
Seminars are being held daily nationwide at $500.00 a session to learn how you too can use this pension to recruit new business and increase your sales. Don't overlook the kids who are taking care of mom and dad, they will be so grateful for your assistance they will want you to manage their assets as well. While you are at it, sell some annuities.
What most don't realize is that by moving things around to a trust or annuity can often mean that when mom or dad need that money to continue paying for their care, they won't have access to it. It will sit in that trust until they die and the beneficiaries get it.
For those who are fortunate enough to have assets that need protecting, these services are valid, but for those who go into this situation strictly based on wanting to file for this pension, you need to educate yourself on whether this is truly in your best interest in the long run.
Again this frenzy of businesses using this pension to get in the hen house is largely due to the fact that the VA has created a need for these services due to the lack of information, the lack of trained employees well versed in Improved Pension, taking a simple application and turning it into more than it needs to be. If it was as originally designed - a simple 4- page application based on meeting the need for assistance and financial guidelines, there would not be a need nor an opportunity for those who use this as a calling card.
As a result, the VA has responded by now sending out an additional form to those who submit an application that they have to sign stating that neither they nor the veteran have paid anyone for any type of assistance in completing the application. The application will not be processed until this form has been returned.
So in the name of "protecting" the veteran, which in my opinion translates to denying the veteran, there is yet another hurdle to jump through.
Rather an unfair dynamic that the VA has its attorneys and council, but a veteran is not entitled to any representation upon making an initial application for any benefit or compensation. They are only entitled to representation if they are appealing a decision on their claim while the IRS wants to make sure you get it right the first time.
Of the two, which do you think is more efficient?
There are more of us that file income tax returns than there are veterans/widows filing for benefits, so how is it that the IRS can receive and process a higher volume of paper so seamlessly while the VA claims they never received the application even though you have a signed “Registered Return Receipt” proving that they did?
If you posed the question of why the IRS created the EZ form while the VA took an easy form and turned it into 26 pages, it really is self explanatory. One wants your money and the other hedges their bets they can keep their money.
This mindset is nothing new. For insight as to how long this treatment and mentality has been permitted and promoted, one need look no further than what was done to the "Bonus Army" when our veterans marched into Washington in 1932 demanding what had been promised. Not much has changed in 77 years. Do yourself a favor and Google "Bonus Army". You'll be enlightened for having done so.
I know there are a lot of good hardworking people at the VA and local offices who have the right intent, but they are only acting under the directives they have been given. What I want to know is who signs the memo authorizing these practices.
When bonuses hinge on giving a veteran the lowest possible disability rating rather than the rating they deserve, I'm hard pressed to believe that this qualifies as acting in the veteran's best interest. Make no mistake here, there is a vested interest, but somewhere along the way the interest got shifted to self serving.
Like solving any other mystery – follow the money.
Until such time that the VA can get its house in order, I think the individuals who do nothing but help file for Improved Pension and have no hidden agenda or want to sell you anything, should have the right to provide the same assistance as your accountant does. Most of these well intended folks have to stay behind closed doors for fear of retribution by the VA for actually helping a veteran make a correct application.
The VA will argue that the veteran is entitled to assistance with filing for free, but when the SO of the office you walk into knows nothing about the pension, or says you don’t qualify, when actually you do, “free” comes at a pretty hefty price.
Yes these folks (the good ones) who work secretly behind the scenes helping veterans and their families should be able to charge a modest fee for their expertise and assistance, but the VA will never sanction anything of the likes, they have too much to lose.
There would be too many applications to approve with no reason to deny them. There are budgets to be justified, bonuses to be earned, and credits for getting a Service Organization assigned as Claimant’s Representative rather than the family member so that you can't call and inquire about the status of the claim. The SO isn't paying the monthly bill so they won't have much motivation to follow up and press for a ruling or approval. And lastly they are busy making sure that no one other than them can "take advantage" of a veteran or widow.
The IRS has a few free months before it is tax season again. Maybe they can step in and show the VA how to get the job done. Better yet, instead of employees getting bonuses for the highest number of denied applications or lowest disability ratings given, how about an imposed penalty with incurring interest for any application that takes longer than 90 days to process!
Now there's an idea that has merit.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Debbie Burak is the Founder of Veteran Aid. Visit their official web site at www.VeteranAid.org
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Good points. If the American Legion, the Disabled American Veterans and the Veterans of Foreign Wars want to do something for totally disabled veterans that can take effect within months, they should lobby the President and Congress to change the tax code this year so that totally disabled veterans, both schedular and IU totally disabled, have tax free income up to $125,000 dollars a year.
The President wants a stimulus where it is most needed? Ladied and Gentlemen, I submit that the plan above fits that category to a tee!
By Roger on 2009-07-11 15:51:46 Tom. Please help me understand "schedular and IU totally disabled"
Thanks.
By Byron Skinner on 2009-07-11 23:17:11
Good Evening Folks,
Two comments first for Tom Barns. Your idea of allowing Veterans make a $125K a year before taxes is great, I would have loved it 25 years ago, but in reality most Veterans drawing VA disability don't make anywhere near that much, even with a working spouse.
Ms Burak, comparing the VA's efficiency to the IRS is not quite as you says it is. The IRS has most of the time, unless a criminal act can be found five years to protest a tax return before the statues of limitation sets in. They take as much of that time as they can because it racks up more penalties, where as the VA pays from the date of filing a claim even if it take 20 years to process.
When you are called in for an examination of your back returns you will find an IRS Special Agent who is really in the dark if not outright confused. After a little back and forth he/she will offer you a deal and 90% of time it is in your interest to take it. In dealing with the VA you are in fact in the position of the IRS agent, tying to prove something.
I have been through both processes and would always rather to deal with the IRS instead of the VA.
In defense of the VA, what little that can be made they are faced everyday with claims that are obviously fraudulent. Lets face it there are more then a few Veterans out their who see the VA as a free ATM, and will lie or do what ever it takes to get a claim through.
My suggestion is for the VA to prosecute those who, with criminal intent to defraud the Government, by filing false claims, and let them do some jail time.
About 30 years ago when the IRS required the SSN's of children and spouses on tax returns when dependents are claimed, that a million women and about 3 million kids died in one year.
This deals with the IRS vs the VA, but federal workman's comp. and the Social Security Adminstration also improved, far outdistanced the VA over the last few years. I agree with Mr. skinner that a lot of veterans try to game the system, but I don't think this is the veterans fault, as the rules and regulations are so mundane that a national guard soldier can never leave their hometown and still file for PTSD from sexual Trama. The VA needs to simplify the process and take politics and political correctness out of the process.
This is not about veterans taking advantage of a system. It's about a system that is taking advantage of its veterans who are the most vulnerable, and the least able to defend themselves. Our elderly.
Those veterans who are not the same strapping young men and women who took an oath to defend our country. Those veterans who now need its country to take care of them.
It is about the process and the imposed difficulties by the VA versus the simplicity of an EZ form for the IRS, and the right to have guidance.
It's about a pension that sat idle for 54 years and now that demand for it has escalated, the VA has made the application process complicated.
It is about our veterans who now need assistance with their day-to-day living either in-home or in an Assisted Living facility or Nursing Home, and being entitled to the highest level of Improved Pension, which is Aid and Attendance.
It’s about the 2+ million widows who know nothing about this pension.
Improved Pension is NOT disability compensation and the criteria is straight forward. It represents up to $23,000 tax-free dollars annually to help pay for that care.
As the daughter of a WWII veteran who acted as care-giver for 9 years and was told 7 times by the VA my dad was not entitled to anything, while all along he was to the tune of $160,000, I have been down this road of heartache.
As the Founder of www.veteranaid.org I deal with people every day who have run out of hope, money, and options for providing care for an older loved one and now face the battle and imposed delays with the VA.
The agency is flawed and broken, and it's a disgrace that our veterans are put through the rigors of having to prove anything.
If the men and women who fought in WWII waited to deploy as long as the VA is asking them to wait for this pension, we would have surly lost the war.
As usual when I make a general statement someone tries to use an exception as a challenge. Other then to be a fallacy of logic it is also degrading to the subject of the exception.
To illustrate my point. In June I attended a screening clinic for TBI, Vietnam era. This clinic also deals with PTSD and other psychological treatment clinics, it is not a benefits clinic. There were eleven Veterans all male, female Veterans in our district are streamed separately. Of the eleven, three of us were (or claimed to be) combat Veterans.
Besides myself there was a WWII Veteran who had dropped out of the VA system, a former POW, and needed to get back on his meds, he was sent to the MC's emergency room on the spot.
The other was a 55 year old former Marine who claimed to have been a sniper in Vietnam, no way, same old BS stories, and at 53 he is to young to have served in Nam (Duff ck. me on this, but if I recall the last Marines, expect the embassy guards, left Nam. in 1973). He was going for PTSD.
The other eight were all 30-40 something former Sailors who claimed no combat service or any disabilities, they were shooting for a PTSD disability by getting into a treatment clinic and gaming the system. The Doctor doing the screening said several times that that treatment clinics have nothing to do with disability benefits, she made it very clear, but none of the eight left the room. This is the claims problem.
To Ms. Burak. I agree with you that there is little or no efforts made by the Department of Veterans Affairs to get the word out to Veterans and their families regarding benefits that they maybe entitled to, especially older Veterans who have never used VA services, this needs to be corrected.
It's not the older veterans like Ms. Burak's father that are clogging up the claims process, it's the younger Veterans, who enlisted served, most in support or service units who see the VA as a free ATM machine, and under current rules these people can keep re submitting claims as long as they like in an effort to catch a friendly adjuster or just to wear out the system. They are also hoping like what happened under Clinton when the VA threw up it's hands and gave blanket approval to thousands of claims, mostly for AO that couldn't be verified. The system must change.
On "gaming the system". The VA does this as a matter of course whenever it denies a just and "well founded" veteran's claim, or "low balls" a claim by awarding less than the law calls for. Sadly, this occurs in the majority of cases at the VARO level.
How to stop the VA's "illegal" and "fraudulent" behavior? While the VA's behavior cannot be justified, the real blame lays with the Congress of the United States. Congress has oversight responsibility, and the mandate to insure that the VA behaves in a proper manner.
You can only conclude that the financial cost is enough that the Congress has chosen and continues to chose to not remedy the situation. Instead, when the hue and cry reaches a significant level, the Congress and the VA throws a "sop" to the veterans, with the hope that the screaming and yelling will die down to a tolerable level.
The situation has not changed appreciably for more than FIFTY YEARS!
I have served in the Army during the 60's and in 2003 I had a heart attack followed by a massive stroke and have been treated and was cared for through the VA Hospital since. I have moved to another location and am now refused treatment and unable to get in home care by the VA Clinic here where I am now. I am told that I don't meet their criteria. My criteria hasn't changed since I was first seen at the VA for my health issue's. I am bedridden and paralyzed on my left side. I am unable to walk or get out of bed on my own. Every time I call for help I get deverted to the welfare line. I don't qualify for welfare but I am a veteran and do qualify for my benifits. Where do I turn for help if not the VA. I need help and assistance.
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