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Fort HoodWhat can I say that has not already been said? Here is the news of the shootings at Fort Hood yesterday afternoon. I will not say anything about this horrible tragedy other than it is obvious now that we all need to step back and reevaluate the entire situation relative to the wars in Western Asia from top to bottom. It is clear that our basis for what so many of us believed about America, her armed forces and our commonly shared value system as a people and a nation was incorrect.

We are not the one-size-fits-all culture that we so fervently believed we were. We must recognize that now. Dozens of people are dead or seriously injured because of our insistence that all Americans agreed with these wars. Most do not.

 

Right or wrong, justified or not, we made a mistake in judgment in so many areas concerning how far we could tear at the fabric of our common culture without it shredding. This will be discussed for a hundred years or more. Questions are many, answers are few. But one thing is certain, we must all quietly retire to inside ourselves and question everything about our culture. Things will never be the same again here. Here is the story from the Associated Press.

Here is a news line from AOL News concerning the shooter Major. Nidal Malik Hassan, U.S. Army who is a psychiatrist. Although originally reported as dead, he is alive with four bullet wounds and is on a respirator. He is from here in Virginia. The story is here.

Here is the story from the Washington Post concerning the major. He was 39, a devout Muslim who prayed often at the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring, MD who wanted an Army discharge and was being deployed overseas to Iraq soon.

Here is another string on that story from other Post writers.

Here is a related story from the Post relative to the strain of constant deployments from units at Fort Hood and the suicides that this has induced among the troopers. That story is here.

May they rest in peace.  May God help us find our way in this most difficult time as a nation.

CWO3 Tom Barnes, USCG (Ret.)

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By Subvet416 on 2009-11-06 08:35:44
From the Post story: "Those who treat the mentally wounded, including doctors such as Hasan, are not immune from the symptoms. It is not uncommon for therapists who treat patients for post-traumatic stress disorder to experience some symptoms vicariously after hearing account after account of the horrors of the battlefield." And it is not uncommon for mental health professionals to take psychiatric drugs themselves . I have direct knowledge of this from my eight years in the system. As one psychiatric nurse at VAMC Boston told me, "Everyone has to take something." The VA's own studies show that drugs are of no value in the treatment of PTSD, and now the use of drugs for all symptoms of "mental illness" is being called into question by psychiatrists courageous enough to speak truth to the power of Big Pharma. Peter Breggin MD author of "Toxic Psychiatry" and Grace E. Jackson MD author of "Drug-induced Demetia, the perfect crime", are two notable examples of such honor and courage in the mental health profession. Psychiatric drugs have been used by our enemies, who were quick to recognize their effects, in the training of suicide bombers for at least ten years.


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  • By Steve60 on 2009-11-06 21:30:57
    I'm sorry, that does not give this man the right to do what he did,...13 deaths and 32 wounded. I have friends that have PTSD, I am 30% and have been in two wars and in two branches. Nobody twisted his arm to enter the Army, pay for his education, intern at Walter Reed. He knew what he was getting into from the get-go. He wasn't in that long either. Sorry, what he did does not excuse him in any respect.


  • By Subvet416 on 2009-11-06 21:52:29
    No, he certainly did not have any excuse for what he did, just as a drunken driver who kills or injures others cannot use alcohol as an excuse. It may well turn out, however, that he was under the effect, or the withdrawal effects, like so many other killers and those who have killed themselves, of those worthless and toxic psychiatric drugs that most of the public still believe to be "medication".



By SMajGrotto on 2009-11-07 21:13:54
I am somewhat puzzled by the amount of people killed and wounded. With two revolvers or pistols (not sure at this time) that is an awful amount of lead to be throwing around with that many individuals hit. I am an expert, or was, a a number of weapons including a .45 and 9MM and to me, in my opinion, to do this one would have to have an awful amount of luck. Unless, there was some friendly fire.


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By NOT A CRUSADER! on 2009-11-08 06:31:52
Just got out of the Wright-Patt Hospital for a false alarm heart attack and ruling out reaction to N1H1 flu shot when this hit.
Sure as hell gave me second and third thoughts, and I'm not a Muslim. However, I am a Retired Major who has opposed the war(s) from get go, not really for any moral, ethical, or religious reasons, but simply because the American people have never been committed to being part of well THE WARS!!!

That said, my last experience with the Air Force at least was one where I had to call a Medical doctor (could care less what rank she was they don't give a crap about mine), a head nurse (civilian contract), and a Airman tech on the carpet for being incompetent, violating two patients rights, dignity, and privacy so on and os forth. Heck, that was an Air Force Hospital that rarely see an Army or Marine combat Vet. (That's another beef I have with the war(s) the lack of shared sacrifice even between the services).

When this story broke, my first response was Oh, Shit I should have kept my mouth shut or they'll put me in the luny bin just to shut me up.

Now all I see is the spin being place on it by the media and damage control instead of getting at the heart of the problem. What could have been done to prevent such an incident of more importantly what can be done in the future?

Thus far, what I read continues to point towards the Major being right in his assessment about the war(s) being Christian CRUSADES, but extremely wrong in his approach to it. There is Courage to Resist, quite a few enlisted people and a few officers have dones so knowing the war(s) are CRUSADES against Islam (with Muslin taking the place of Communists), however none of them open fire on any military base to prove their point they simply QUIT with many paying the price.

The latest I saw from AP the chief instigator that most mainstream media follows is biased, one-sided, and inflamatory against Muslims in the service period:

Some saw trouble ahead with Fort Hood shooter
By ANGELA K. BROWN and RICHARD LARDNER, Associated Press Writers Angela K. Brown And Richard Lardner, Associated Press Writers 1 hr 2 mins ago

I'm just gonna point out the parts that bother me from a WO this needs more clarificaton stand point!!!

In retrospect, the signs of Dr. Nidal Malik Hasan's growing anger over the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan seem unmistakable.

     - people who worried his increasingly strident views were clouding his ability to serve the U.S. military

What the hell does strident views mean? Was he a Muslim extremists or not? Or simply an officer (Mustang at that like me) who did not believe in what he was fighting for. As most will say, this does not and should not let him off the hook for murder no more than a Christian Lieutenant, Captain or Major going into an Iraqi or Afghan village and ordering a massacre should god forbid that ever occur again. (VT. Ed)

- Dr. Hasan raised eyebrows with comments that the war on terror was "a war on Islam" and wrestled with what to tell fellow Muslim solders who had their doubts about fighting in Islamic countries.

Note: It is now the Obama administration, and Obama's Pentagon or I think so for even that is doubtful given it is run by Bush holdovers, including Generals and Admirals. Let's see the Pentagon's reaction to an Executive Order from the President allowing the mainstream media acces

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