Sandy Hook Hoaxes & The Terror of The Situation

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by Joe Quinn, Editor SOTT.net

 

Many of the most notable events in modern (and even ancient) history have provoked some form of ‘conspiracy theory’. That is to say, ordinary people were not satisfied with the official story about how the event unfolded because all or some aspects of that story simply did not objectively make sense. Despite what the mainstream media would like us to believe about ‘conspiracy theories’, most conspiracy theories are based on objective problems with the official narrative. But note that I said ‘based on’. The problem with conspiracy theories is that, while they usually reflect a more accurate overview of a major event, they are forced to rely on theory (due to deliberate with-holding of data by official sources) rather than hard evidence (which would disqualify them as theories) and are therefore open to abuse by people who tend to use their imaginations to complete the picture rather than the more critical functions of the human mind.

Compared to other similar events where many people found the official story implausible, the Sandy Hook massacre has provoked a veritable flood of conspiracy theories, and many of them are not based on any hard evidence.

A large majority of the alternative news pundits that have attempted to independently investigate the Sandy Hook massacre have engaged in some seriously irresponsible and shoddy journalism. Among the more outlandish and baseless theories, we find the claim that “actors” took the place of the parents and siblings of the Sandy Hook victims, and that no children were murdered at all because, the theory goes, if they were, “why haven’t we seen any bodies?” I’ve already exposed the logical fallacies in a few of these theories elsewhere, but there is one theory that still refuses to go away, perhaps because it is slightly less obviously bogus, and many people are still touting it as the single fact that “busts open” the official story as a “hoax”.

The theory in question is that a man named Christopher Rodia was the REAL owner of the black Honda Civic, which has been identified as the car of Adam Lanza’s mother that was found outside the Sandy Hook elementary school. The basis for this erroneous belief, still held by many, is police scanner audio that was picked up from the morning of Dec. 14th and which details Connecticut State Police response to the massacre.

I obtained the original audio files from the Radioreference.com website and had to pay a small sum for the full files. I have listened to them, and the evidence they contain can only lead to one plausible conclusion: that it is unlikely that the aforementioned Christopher Rodia had anything to do with the Sandy Hook massacre, even if his name and DOB are mentioned in the audio.

What so many of those who are searching for evidence of conspiracy at Sandy Hook have apparently missed is the fact that the audio files clearly contain police communications about MORE than just the Sandy Hook event.

In the audio streams there are several communications from Connecticut State police who are clearly not involved in the response to Sandy Hook and are just out there doing their ‘normal’ jobs of stopping people for no reason and catching speeding drivers.

The Connecticut State police scanner audio from the morning of Dec. 14th 2012, as provided by Radioreference.com, begins at 9.34am and lasts for one hour until 10.34am, i.e. it begins at about the time Lanza is said to have entered the school and lasts for one hour.

Below I will provide all relevant excerpts from this hour of audio, with my comments, which include the now infamous references to the license plate of Nancy Lanza’s car and to Christopher Rodia.

If you wish to listen to this audio (which is split into two half-hour files), here’s the first part: audio file 1  and here’s the second part: audio file 2

First audio segment: 9.34am – 10.04am

  • At 00:15, an officer refers to an “apartment door” and says “he is not responding to me verbally”. (This probably has nothing to do with SH.)
  • At 1:55, an officer seems to be reading out an license plate and refers to a ‘Camry’ which is likely a reference to a Toyota Camry car.
  • At 4:28, a female officer says “we’re outside waiting for the ok to go in”. (This may be the first reference to SH.)
  • At 5:15, the same female officer says “it’s now in lock-down”. (This is most likely a reference to SH.)
  • At 6:15, a female officer says: “Dickenson Drive, 12 Dickenson Drive.” (This appears to be both the address of the fire-house at the entrance to the SH school driveway, which was the designated staging area, AND the address of SH school itself.)
  • At 6:20, an officer says: “car is responding, the shooter is apparently still shooting in the officer area, 12 Dickenson Drive.”
  • At 6:47, an officer says: “personnel take exit 10 then a left on 34 then continue on Riverside Road, Dickenson Drive, make sure you have your vest on.”

For the next few minutes there are various communications that seem to relate to officers arriving at SH school. At 8:39, for example, an officer asks for “directions again please”, another officer then gives the same directions to SH school for officers arriving from some distance away who are clearly NOT familiar with the area. That is to say, they are out of town CT. State Police.

  • At 9:18 an officer says “I have Newtown on the line yet.”
  • Another officer responds: “Get Newtown on the line so we are coordinating with them; they may just want us to establish a perimeter.”
  • At 10:45, more instructions are given about which exit to take and how to get to SH school. These are clearly not the communications of police that are familiar with the area. That is, they are not Newtown police.
  • At 11:49, an officer calls out a license plate “X-ray Libra Golf, 941.″
  • Then at 12:15, we hear a female officer or dispatcher say: “We’ve got an injured person in room number 9 with numerous gunshot wounds.”
  • Between 13 and 14 minutes, more descriptions of how to get to SH are given.
  • At 15:00, an officer says: “negative on description, ok, shots were fired about 3 mins ago, quiet at the time.”
  • Then there are more descriptions of how to get to SH school.
  • At 17:30, an officer says: “can you swing down here and get us a pink slip for his toll form please?” (This sounds like a communication that is NOT related to SH).
  • At 18:18, an officer says: “do you have a case number on this”? (See above)
  • A female responds: “number is 18264.″ (see above)
  • At 18:38, an officer says: “no violation, just the same kind of complaint from yesterday that he forgot the…” (See above).
  • At 19:15 an officer says: “Newtown’s reporting one suspect down, the building has now been cleared.” (Clearly a reference to SH)
  • At 20:23 an officer says: “Dickenson 91 in the Liberty Way parking lot, reported no injuries but possible side airbag deployed.” (Clearly NOT a reference to SH, but keep ‘Liberty Way’ in mind.)
  • At 20:45, another officer says: “… motor vehicle stop…” (Do I need to explain it?)
  • At 21:58, another officer says: “same location, 544 Xray Charlie Lima Connecticut 40.″
  • At 22:47, another officer says: “got a speed limit sign down.”
  • At 25:13, more directions are given to police officers who are arriving to the scene of the SH shooting.
  • At 26:24, an officer says: “33 headquarters, motor vehicle stop.” The same officer repeats “motor vehicle stop.”
  • Immediately after this a female voice says: “12 Dickenson Drive, Dickenson Drive.”
  • At 27:00, the same voice that said “33 headquarters, motor vehicle stop” at 26:24, says: “722 VHA, radar.” (Clearly NOT a reference to SH.)
  • At 28:56, an officer says: “street, near a park, connected trailer V87 278, unsecured load.” (Clearly NOT a reference to SH)
  • For the next few minutes there are intermittent police communications that appear to be about the SH response.

Segment ends at 30:32.

Second audio segment 10.04am – 10.34am

  • At 1:20, a female (possibly a dispatcher) says: “please respond, Liberty Way” […] (See reference to ‘Liberty Way parking lot’ in first segment above).
  • At 1:39, an officer says “Connecticut 872 Y Yankee, E Echo, O Oscar, 872 YEO possible suspect vehicle.” (This is the license plate of the car of Nancy Lanza, the mother of Adam Lanza).
  • At 2:04, an officer with a deep voice, clearly NOT the officer that made the previous 872 YEO license plate report, says: “run the eh… operator, he’s a Florida license Connecticut as well, first name is Rodia, R-O-D-I-A, Christopher A. Date of birth is, eh… August 6th ’69.”
  • For the next 8 minutes there are various communications, all of which appear to refer to SH: people being evacuated, staging areas and more directions for CT. State Troopers who are still arriving.
  • Then at 10:15, an officer says: “665 YRG.” This could well be yet another call from a CT. State Trooper who is NOT at SH but is still out on normal patrol and is calling in a license plate.
  • At 11:34 and for the next few minutes, we have yet more directions about how to get to SH school.
  • At 15:34, an officer says: “we have big furret? Connecticut 258 Yankee Yankee Hotel, 258 YYH, Laser.”
  • For the next 6 or 7 minutes the transmissions are all about SH; the staging areas, people coming out of the building, etc.
  • At 22:02, an officer says: “763 Zula Rima Julliet, 763 TLJ Lucifer.”
  • At 22:36, what sounds like the same officer says: “New Jersey plates, a couple of occupants, eh… not sure where exactly on Stoneway, I got cut off on the caller…”
  • At 25:12, what sounds like the same officer says: “Fat van? near 55 Stoneway when you’re ready. Jersey, Charlie 6 6 Bravo SS, New Jersey, Charlie 66 Bravo Sierra Sierra, there’ll be a few males in the van…”
  • At 27:10, an officer says: “Ford Econoline, eh registered to the Courier car rental out of Wayne, New Jersey.”
  • Another officer responds: “the occupants are out of state they’re doing a documentary on owl(?)-hunting in Canaan(?)”

The rest of the audio refers mainly to the Sandy Hook police response.

The two communications in bold above are what have caused many independent Sandy Hook investigators to believe they had found evidence of a “hoax”. They claim that, together, the comments constitute ‘clear evidence’ that Christopher Rodia owned Nancy Lanza’s car. But, taken in context, i.e. that both communications are part of a continuum of Connecticut State police communications on the morning of the Sandy Hook shooting that include State Police responses to the shooting AND things like traffic stops by police who are NOT involved with the response to the SH shooting, and that both types of communications are naturally interspersed… well, the rational conclusion then is that Rodia was just one of the several people who were stopped in their cars by a CT. State police officer somewhere nowhere near Sandy Hook school, as evidenced by the scanner audio.

In addition, it seems clear from the audio that some of the State police communications were coming from pretty far afield and had nothing to do with Sandy Hook; the reference to “Liberty way parking lot” in the audio, for example, most likely refers to Liberty way parking lot in Greenwich CT, which is 45 miles from Sandy Hook. The word ‘Greenwich’ is also spoken by a dispatcher in the above audio, although I didn’t include it here. If you want to hear it you’ll just have to listen to the audio yourself. If you do, you’ll be among a select few individuals who have, it seems, bothered to actually listen to the audio in full.

By way of further evidence that Rodia is unlikely to be the owner of the Honda Civic, here is a copy of his consolidated property tax statement, showing that he does not own a Honda Civic. If he did, it would be on this statement:

Therefore, if someone could explain to me how a cop at Sandy Hook school could receive Rodia’s details from the car license plate 872 YEO when Rodia doesn’t own a car with that license plate, I’d be all ears.

And just for good measure, here’s the consolidated property tax record for Rodia’s wife (or maybe it’s his sister, I can’t remember now). She doesn’t own a Honda Civic either:

Anyone still in doubt? Ok then, here’s Nancy Lanza’s tax record, showing she owned a Honda Civic:1

The many internet news pundits and ‘researchers’ who have jumped on the “Sandy Hook hoax” bandwagon and relied on what has turned out to be spurious evidence that the parents were ‘actors’ or that Christopher Rodia owned the Honda Civic, are guilty of either neglecting to use their critical thinking abilities to engage in serious research, or are simply repeating these claims in an effort to get attention. Of course, we can’t discount the possibility that someone, somewhere, has been deliberately encouraging the spread of this information in an effort to make anyone who questions, in any way, the official story of the Sandy Hook massacre look like a raving lunatic.

The fact of the matter is that there are some serious unanswered questions about the official narrative of what happened at Sandy Hook on the morning of Dec. 14th 2012. In the absence of any clarification of these outstanding questions, and taking into consideration other similar massacres and the problems with the official narrative around those, not to mention the virtual certainty that an elite cabal has existed in the USA for several decades and has been involved in assassinations, it is entirely rational to conclude, on the balance of this collective evidence, that Adam Lanza was not yet another ‘lone gunman’.

I understand that people who are already well-versed in the clear evidence of duplicity of the ruling elite may have a wilful tendency to accept as fact any evidence of further elite treachery that comes their way. But in our modern era of the all-seeing eye of the national security state and tried and tested ‘counter-insurgency tactics that are practiced as much at ‘home’ as abroad, it is prudent to be suspicious not only of the elite but also of those who, at first glance, may appear to be our allies.

As a result of my own investigation into this massacre, which involved the discovery of a large amount of bogus ‘evidence’ of a “Sandy Hook hoax”, I have been left with a very clear understanding that the people who carried out this particular operation are very powerful indeed. Powerful beyond what most people can imagine could ever be possible. While I have little doubt (for the reasons noted above) that more than one person was involved, I also am forced to admit that the perpetrators of the Sandy Hook massacre left literally NO hard evidence of their monstrous crime. Consider the level of control that is required to leave so little evidence when carrying out a horrific massacre like Sandy Hook. In addition, the implication is that the mainstream media were in some way complicit, or at least controlled and duped. The end result is the sense of “a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that [men] had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.2

If we are to understand anything from the Sandy Hook massacre, let it be an understanding, born of careful thought and analysis, of the true nature of the forces that are reigned against us as we engage in the fight to ensure that Truth is heard in a world dominated by lies, a world where the wanton murder of innocent children becomes all too ‘normal’.

Notes:

1. Thanks to reader ‘wdthepoet’ for this reference.
2. This is from a speech by Woodrow Wilson:

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. They know that America is not a place of which it can be said, as it used to be, that a man may choose his own calling and pursue it just as far as his abilities enable him to pursue it; because to-day, if he enters certain fields, there are organizations which will use means against him that will prevent his building up a business which they do not want to have built up; organizations that will see to it that the ground is cut from under him and the markets shut against him. For if he begins to sell to certain retail dealers, to any retail dealers, the monopoly will refuse to sell to those dealers, and those dealers, afraid, will not buy the new man’s wares.”

While it is clear that the “power” that Wilson was referring to was a business power that in this context was exerting control over “commerce and manufacture” and a “monopoly” preventing people from choosing their own business calling, it is also clear that he was referring to a power above and beyond the “biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture”. To me, that’s a lot of power.

This article was first published on SOTT.net on January 12, 2013.

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46 COMMENTS

  1. If Gene Rossen and Robbie Parker aren’t acting then I AM crazy. Maybe that’s why people read Michener. They actually think people act that way! I’m speechless. It’s not only acting, it’s BAD acting. Besides the acting, the script is wacky. I guess some people just see what they want to see. Funny, I don’t FEEL insane.

  2. Thanks for the article as the paytriot nuts need to be opposed (occasionally).

    Wikipedia has an article on the SH massacre which should be used as an official record to be challenged as both the media and authorities have been incompetent, to say the least.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

    Investigation

    A large quantity of unused ammunition was recovered inside the school, along with three semi-automatic firearms found with Lanza: a .223-caliber Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle, a 10mm Glock handgun and a 9mm SIG Sauer P226 handgun.[18][19][17][20][62] A 30 round magazine was recovered with the rifle.[18] Outside the school, an Izhmash Saiga-12 combat shotgun was found in the car Lanza had driven.[18][20] At home, Lanza had access to three more firearms: a .45 Henry repeating rifle, a .30 Enfield rifle, and a .22 Marlin rifle.[11][63][64][65]
    The weapons were legally owned by Lanza’s mother, who was a gun enthusiast.[66][67] Police said Lanza used the Bushmaster rifle against most of the victims. According to the state’s chief medical examiner, H. Wayne Carver, many of the victims were shot multiple times with the same “long weapon”—the Bushmaster rifle.[4][68][69] Under Connecticut law,[70] the 20-year-old Lanza was old enough to carry a long gun,[71] but too young to legally own or carry handguns.[72]

    The crisis actors theory was a stupid trap for the the conspiracy theory folks to go down when there are much bigger questions.

    If a conspiracy does exist on this case, it must have been planned very well so getting caught would have been nearly impossible. The perps. could just run up the hill to a public park and ball field where getting on I84 would have been just a couple minutes away. The question remains how do you frame the whole event as a massacre/lone nut suicide if Lanza had been at all unwilling in this episode?

  3. How about this: let’s begin at/near the beginning of the Sandy Hook event. When Niall Bradley and/or “Mighty” Joe Quinn provide us with photographic evidence of 600 or so children and school administrators being evacuated from Sandy Hook Elementary I will begin to believe their version of the SH event over that of authors like Jim Fetzer.

    • Nice video. Drill again, hmmmm? More black and silver cars? As one loony to another, which video sounds more plausible, the Glenn Beck/survivor or this one? He’s a good judge of character, He obviously knows Gene.
      I saw another a day or so ago. It had what the place looked like two or three years back before “somebody” poured a lot of money into it. Seems they bought up businesses and replaced them with new businesses and tried to make the whole thing look like a Norman Rockwell card. From the old pictures it used to look pretty seedy. There were articles from the local rag from back then and various new people began arriving and occupying all the newly built houses. It looked like a “Stepford” sort of thing.
      There’s currently a lot of Fatherland Security money flowing in there. I’d make a guess but, of course, I’m not allowed to look because the MSM hasn’t blessed it for me. Wouldn’t want anyone thinking I was a lunatic.

    • I know better than to even try to speak for Fetzer. You need to ask Fetzer what his version is, not me.
      (That might prove rather difficult with that busted lip you got when he threw the book at you)

  4. Mr. Quinn’s article should be oriented to para-political events fom an epistomelogical perspective, which can afford both more practical sense as well as conceptual sense.

    For Quinn to invoke the term “conspiracy theory” in just the linguistic frame that the CIA hopes we would is inexcusable. The article immediately then — from the outset — descends into an arrogant parsing of those researchers that are rational (in Quinn’s opinion) and those that are merely irresponsible fools. And the same moral supremicism is revealed that seems to everywhere infect the truth community. Would Quinn and his set have their way, truth searching would not be the ugly, diverse organism it currently is, but a pretty self-conscious and over-eager busybody, with one foot in the consensual dream and the other in the not-very-dark shadows of mild skepticism. It is aesthetics triumphing over ontology, because the truth does not interest Quinn if it wears sneakers and makes bold claims against the empire with so little to back up the claim as gut intuition and the handful of deceptions he can verify from his easy chair.

    Why are you the timid flower before such grand pronouncements that this event was a hoax? Why can you find it easier to write a thesis on how foolish millions of Conspiracy Theorists instead of using your article to actually weigh the merit of that claim. Do you know the sun will rise tomorrow Mr. Quinn? I wager that you do, but it is not because of your mathematical calculations, nor because any official Polity says it will, but you believe the sun will rise because you have witnessed it rise and set without variance, for the whole of your life. So you predict it will tomorrow.

    Well many others have marked, noted, and filed away the number of times we have borne witness to deceptions such as we might see in Sandy Hook, and they have noted the many precedents for such deceptions; and contrary to the paltry evidence mentioned in your piece, they have even accounted for all the circumstantial evidence and otherwise, which all lead any intelligent consumer of information to surmise this so-called shooting was a staged event, conducted by officers of the state. And as of now, the evidence that a massacre happened is yet to be proved as anything other than more histrionics from known deceivers.

    Perhaps you haven’t yet the courage to face such large scale deception, and perhaps you still believe it matters to have the respect of those Establishment-sanctioned priests. I certainly would understand if you had to adopt such a confused pose because it will feed your family, but after paying your mortgage and all the rest, do step aside for the heroes of western civilization to pick up the gauntlet you are too wise and rational to even approach.

    • Solfeggio, very enjoyable read. I find it healthy & encouraging that the “Conspiracy Theorists” are starting to be more & more self-critical, creating their own PEER REVIEW. What has made False Flag & Black Ops possible, in the past, is that the their ACCOMPLICES the MSM has made their Ops invisible. This has now changed by Conspiracy Theorists, exposing MSM as propagandists, & now exposing problems in their own Theories.

      Let us not be seduced by the pejorative propagandization of the words “Theory” & “Conspiracy”. The word “Theory” is not used by Conspiracy Theorists to describe a fantasy or an untruth but to parse the event in such a way that it becomes more congruent with a forensic or scientific methodology, like the ‘theory of gravity” or the “theory of relativity”. In other words, theory of events based on facts & not based on BELIEVE perpetuated by the ‘religious’ authority of the MSM.

      In a similar way as in the word Theory, the word “Conspiracy” has been demonized. It is a legal term like “conspiracy to traffic” but more importantly it is used in official U.S Government documents like “Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression” (GPO, 1946). Americans at Nuremberg hanged Deutschen officials, who committed “conspiracies” not only against other Nations but against their own people. CRIMES AGAINST PEACE, as described by the Nuremberg Tribunal in 1946, are “the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.” How many CRIMES AGAINST PEACE have officials of the American Government committed against their own people?

    • Yeh, except that most ‘conspiracy theorists’, whether you use that term pejoratively or literally, DO come across as lunatics, or worse – they are ARE actually lunatics. If they’re not in it for the $, then they’re in it for the kudos, the feeling of ‘speshulness’ or just for kicks. Most of them don’t give a damn about Truth.

    • So you AND Quinn the Eskimo ARE two peas in a pod. Now we know for sure, (as if we couldn’t tell right off the bat), who’s really in it for the $$$, (sorry, don’t have a shekel on my keyboard, I’m not kosher) the kudos, the extra helpings of ‘speshulness’, and throw in your kicks,( and the towel, while you’re at it) for good measure.
      We unwashed goyim may not give much of a whole Helluva damn about truth anymore, after your bosses blew it all to shreds, but you and Mighty Quinn just plain CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH. That must be because you’re both over here 24/7 spreading manure all over it. You wouldn’t know what a conspiracy was if it hauled off and shot you right in your face. Just like Kennedy. That’s right, in your FACE, not in the back of your massively swelled HEAD, like Arlen Sphincter and Co. would have it. Too late, Bradley and Co., we’re on to ya now.

    • Somebody make him stop! “Neener, neener……you’re a conspiracy theorist….and you smell bad….and your mommy dresses you funny…..so…….there!

  5. 3. NOT ONE bloody little body taken to an ambulance TO A HOSPITAL/CORONER in the first minutes/hours of the ‘event’…are we to believe that EVERYONE that was shot breathed their dying breathe before first responders got to the scene?
    etc, etc, etc….

    THESE THINGS I CAN VERIFY

    ya watch this, VERIFY YOU’RE WRONG

    No EMS/Ambulances/No Children
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6roYcBbok_Q

    SANDY HOOK WAS NOT A HOAX!!!!
    PLEASE SHARE, IF YOU BELIEVE IT HAPPENED
    PLEASE SHARE/POST ANY WHERE

    Robbie Parker & Emilie Parker
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdlkXL8IhAg

    Gene Rosen
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVts9H1DB1w

    Fema Drills/Courses/Class
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHF2b7KqzA8

    Facebook Page Ceated 4 Days Early December 10th 2012
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BztlVGDtL0E

    United Way Charity Page December 11th 2012
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJpfc6W0sqw

    Medical Examiner
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcqrgpiuAs

    PLEASE SHARE/POST ANY WHERE

  6. OK, jayn0t, let’s leave the systematic demolitions for 9/11. And while we’re at it, let’s leave the conspiracy pseudo-theory for Mighty Joe Quinn to debunk on his own Sott.net (a really great site for slobbering sots).
    Veterans Today is a high traffic and highly respected site for viewers of every persuasion, but VT DOES NOT suffer insufferable shills gladly, and whether you shill for shillings or shekels makes not a dime of difference here. If shilling is your stock and trade, you’ll last here about as long as a fart in a windstorm.
    So why don’t you just hook up with the Mighty Quinn and Gingerbread Daddy and take your flea circus on the road? Who knows, someday you might even get to be on the Glenn Beck Show-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPN9uVSo-iY

    • Hah, Garibaldi, I told you you’d love that link! After reading some of these comments I’ve come to realize that I’m hopelessly outclassed here. Those of us who have problems believing the MSM are merely lunatics after all. That’s the point. Garnering acceptance from our “superiors”. How any of us could question such carefully constructed and artfully researched material as delivered in the MSM just shows the depths of our lunacy (sniff!). I’m filled with humidity!

  7. Today, there is a link at Jeff Rense to a caller to the Glenn Beck Show who claims a six-year-old survivor told him everything she saw but he can’t talk about it. First I’ve heard of that. He sounds very convincing if you overlook the obvious evocative images he conjures up. He wants everyone to know that “truthers” are just conspiracy theorists and it makes him sick, etc.. He wants everyone to know he’s a “firefighter” (read hero) AND a Cub Scout Leader. Nonetheless, that’s his claim. He says he was there but didn’t see any bodies because the cops wouldn’t let them and that they were just protecting them. He says he went to the funerals, etc..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnoMKzX7Tdc&feature=endscreen

    I suppose you could ask why we haven’t heard of this survivor. I’m not sure what the testimony of a six-year-old witness to a mass shooting would sound like. He claims she “revealed the whole thing” to him. Very strange.

  8. It’s gratifying to see ‘Veterans Today’ publish a systematic demolition of a conspiracy pseudo-theory. This helps balance its promotion of some of the more ridiculous examples of the genre.

  9. I’m so ashamed! NOT! I found the whole car business an interesting side-issue. In fact, I don’t recall reading any “independent investigator’s” account that hinged on the car being prima facie evidence of a hoax. If “hoax” equates to the number of errors established in various reports the MSM is the lucky winner on that score, hands down.
    This is a media hoax, period. That doesn’t mean “nobody died”, (frankly I don’t know). It appears to be a “drill gone live” or a previous drill scenario intersperse with live action. A bigger curiosity to me is why someone feels so utterly obligated to assume the MSM is generally right or their information legitimate. They are NOT “reporting” they are manipulating. There is clearly an intended outcome, or a series of outcomes being sold.
    Don’t lose your nouggies over a supposed “gotcha”. Rodia is essentially irrelevant to this. The obvious actors are hard to debunk. Look at the scenes, the little vignettes. Pure Hollywood. People know something’s wrong. Why is that worthy of scorn? It would be a sign of universal health if everyone was skeptical of everything they say. They are using information (or withholding information) or manufacturing information in order to manipulate. That is as obvious as the nose on your face. All you have to do is look at it. They are not simply conveying information to keep us informed.
    There is a lot more going on here than some petty crook’s car. I’m not sure what people like this would have us do. Just shut up and BELIEVE I suppose. Well, for my money that’s fine. They are absolutely free to believe anything they like. I’m not trying to manipulate anyone.
    I’ve had 65 years of practice recognizing B.S., work around it every day in fact. The fact that we’re all drowning in it and that this has caught the attention that it has is rather telling. This is EXTREME B.S.. No, not your garden variety day-to-day full-emersion b.s., this is full-on, in your face, bull-goose loony B.S..
    Accepting this tale on the face of what’s been provided as evidence is an insult. If these so-called “journalists” had reported “A car registered to Ms. Lanza, the alleged shooter’s mother, was found at the scene and police believe the shooter used it to transport himself to the scene” or something much of the confusion could have been avoided. Instead, we get “Ryan did it, no belay that, Adam did it. First he murdered his mother then drove her car to the school”. That leaves us with “how do they know that?” “How do they know he did that?”. “How do they know its her car”? Even WITH the evidence its a pretty sketchy tale. So what do people RIGHTFULLY do when the “news” doesn’t deliver the goods? Do they have a right to doubt them? Did a group of Saudi “terrists” demolish three sky scrapers and punch a hole in the Pentagon? Well, actually no. Is that what they reported. Is this a problem?
    I guess the “normal” lies are just that. When they involve lives it gets a little more serious. This isn’t about “conspiracy theorists”. Its about deep distrust with the Government and their instrumentalities. That is VERY healthy as they have proven themselves to be totally untrustworthy. I say the “loony” thing to do would be to accept anything they said at face value. If they ever wish to be trusted again they would have to earn it. I don’t see any movement in that direction.

  10. “While I have little doubt (for the reasons noted above) that more than one person was involved, I also am forced to admit that the perpetrators of the Sandy Hook massacre left literally NO hard evidence of their monstrous crime. Consider the level of control that is required to leave so little evidence when carrying out a horrific massacre like Sandy Hook.”

    You claim NO hard evidence exists for this crime, yet insist that a “horrific massacre” has occurred! We have seen NO bodies, NO footage of the event, NOTHING that PROVES that any shooting actually ever took place!

  11. I have not had the time to do extensive research on Sandy Hook but I find it puzzling mainstream news sources claim law enforcement officials have reported Adam Lanza used a .223 semiautomatic rifle to kill people, however NBC has recently reported officials only found four handguns at the crimes scene.

    Excerpt from an article:

    The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns.

    If theses claims are correct I have to wonder what happened to the .223 semiautomatic rifle. A person could conclude there was at least two killers but if this was a black op why would the black op person not leave the .223 semiautomatic rifle at the scene of the crime to frame Adam Lanza? Perhaps it’s just bad reporting about the weapon used and the weapons found or intentional disinformation otherwise were dealing with a stupid black op team or a black op team which wants the conspiracy theory crowd to know there were others involved in the tragic event.

    To me the issue of the .223 semiautomatic being the murder weapon used by Lanza, yet it’s not found at the crime scene, only four hand guns are found, is a major red flag. According to people who know guns, the long gun found in the car is a shot gun, I know nothing about guns but it doesn’t look like a Bushmaster semiautomatic rifle.

    The final report may gives us more clues about what really happened, either because it includes the truth or more likely because its filled with disinformation. The officials gave us the absurd conclusion Timothy McVeigh brought down the building with a truck bomb. That ridiculous story probably gave the Mossad a big laugh.

  12. This is hilarious. “A cabal that has been around for decades”. I’m relieved.
    There is an obvious implication that anyone who questions conspiracy theories must be nut job yet he acknowledges that something is wrong with the official narrative. Even to the extent of producing tax records.

    This is called damage control. Prob at 20 bucks an hour. 25 is too much. Understandable seeing that the whole friggin thing is a cheaply done 911.

  13. Get a grip on yourself Jim. “Not one hysterical parent”? “Not one tear”? This is utter bullshit. The “actors” claim is PATENT disinfo and appears to be designed to make anyone questioning SH look like an idiot. Is that your intent?

    • It’s NOT utter bullshit. Can you actually watch the videos of the interviews and honestly say that these people are on the level? I sure can’t. Gene Rosen? Wayne Carver? Noah Pozner’s mother?
      ****http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rORvvz8-deo
      ****http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEfn065PkCQ and others

      I see some token wiping of eyes in some of the interviews, etc…but no tears streaming down the cheeks or anything of the sort. And how can you explain the six Sandy Hook tribute websites that were created PRIOR to the event??

      And doesn’t “Mrs. Phelps” aka Jennifer Greenburg Sexton bear a striking resemblance to James Holmes’ attorney? Only dif is hair parted opposite side:
      ****http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmg5Q5BAEgs

    • “Grace’s” parents laughing deliriously on CNN five days after their daughter is slaughtered . . . yes, this doesn’t make sense. NO TEARS make NO SENSE. We are HUMAN, not creatures or Satanic constructions. Humans typically weep when bereaved. What is YOUR intent?

    • This reminds me of a comedy skit I once heard. They were putting on a play based on “The Diary of Ann Frank”. Pia Zadora had the lead role. It was so bad that when the “Nazis” broke down the front door someone in the audience hollered “she’s upstairs in the attic”.
      That’s the calibre (excuse the pun) of acting here. If anyone can honestly look at this production and not see that they’re acting you’d better pray that you’re not visited by Kirby and siding salesmen in the near future. It is a whole new standard for “gullible”.

    • funny, an awful lot of people accept that the “actors claim” is worth exploring, can you verify these were not actors, some of them? From my understanding, most info is sealed off from scrutiny-24/7 police watch for all parents?Perhaps rather than simply diss a peer, Joe Quinn, you can tell us “the real truth” as YOU know it, or , are you just here to aggravate and agitate.?

    • Joe Quinn, please provide us with photographic or video evidence of hysterical, crying parents (along with the same type of evidence for 600 children, teachers, and school administrators being evacuated from the school).

    • Anybody who can sit and watch Gene Rosen break down for 24 hours on nine different networks without going rabid, barking insane is somebody I’d like to meet..

    • Right folks……***EXTREME CAUTION***

      Click on Scott.net from the link at the top and go to the website.

      Click on the ‘About’ page and you get this:

      “Signs of the Times or Scott.net was launched on March 26th 2002 by **Laura Knight-Jadczyk**.

      A historian and author of repute in her own right, **Laura Knight-Jadczyk** is the wife of renowned theoretical physicist, **Arkadiusz Jadczck** one of the world’s few living experts in hyperdimensional physics”.

      Now check these links for Jadczyk – google:

      *******rationalwiki.org/wiki/Laura_Knight_Jadczyk

      *******www.jayweidner.com/LauraKnightFraud.html

      Quote form Weidner:

      “Whatever you do, stay away from Laura Knight Jadczyk. Not only will you be scammed out of all of your money but she will get into your mind and attempt to control that also. With links to Pentagon mind control organizations like DARPA the smart move would be to stay far way”.

    • It’s now appeared above….I sometimes experience an occasional glitch / delay when posting, even though I avoided direct links which go into moderation etc.

  14. When has there ever been a mass shooting when all of the victims were killed?
    With all of the alleged bullets that were fired, not a single stray bullet caused any
    victims to sustain survivable wounds.
    Not a single .223 round fired at close range passed through or missed any of these small,
    frail targets, ricocheted and found its way to non-lethally injure someone.
    Not one live or surviving witness to the actual shooting has given public testimony.

    • According to one guy today there is supposed to be a 6 year-old survivor who saw the whole thing. I’m not sure I believe it. See my comment and link below.

  15. I have to agree about Robbie Parker. I’ve been an actor for 20 years. I know acting when I see it, and acting is clearly what he was doing.

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