Real “Manhattan” Nuclear Testing District

UN Nuclear Recovery Teams at Bush/Bout Sahara Crash Site
UN Nuclear Recovery Teams at Bush/Bout Sahara Crash Site

Won’t They Ever Quit


By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor


(materials provided by various sources, all proper credit intended)


Many of us awoke today, checked our email hoping for more of InforWars amusing reports of how Israel was going to save the world or how hordes of Russian Spetznaz were slithering up the Mississippi River to throttle us in our beds.  I do so love their sense of humor.

They went to far this time.  Snowden, the man who told the world that the most famous surveillance/spy organization in the world is, well, a surveillance/spy organization, we are talking about the boyish CIA “hangout” of the day, Edward Snowden, that “Edward Snowden,” Mr. Chickenfeed, the “Assange” of his day, sands the date-rape issues, now joined himself at him with our arch-Zionist spammers.

By a recent estimation, 70% of independent/alternative journalists and “9/11 experts” fail a very professional “sniff test” and are clearly employed by the FBI.  Even the Russians private admit that Snowden would be mopping bathrooms in the Moscow underground if it weren’t for his propaganda value.

Snowden was not allowed, according to the Alex Jones publication, tell the world that the FBI knew about bin Laden in advance and could have stopped 9/11.  The rest of us, forgive us our lack of ignorance, had long decided the FBI, CIA and Mossad were the heart of the 9/11 attacks, nukes, a missile, imaginary 600 mph airliners flying at heights were they would disintegrate into potato chip size tasty bites of flaming aluminum.

From a “little bird:”

The gravitational potential energy of an object is the energy it takes to raise it to a certain height, or the energy obtained by letting it fall. The formula is U = mgh. U is the standard symbol for potential energy, m is mass in kilograms, g is the gravitational acceleration of the earth and h is the height in meters. Energy is in joules. One watt is one joule per second, and a joule is roughly the energy needed to raise one pound one foot.

For the World Trade Centers, the towers were 400 meters high and their mass was 600,000 tons or 600 million kilograms. So the total gravitational potential energy in one tower was 6 x 108 kg x 9.8 m/sec2 x 400 m x 1/2. The factor of 1/2 comes from the fact that some mass fell 400 meters and some fell only a short distance, and the overall result is as if it all fell the average distance. So we have U = 1.2 x 1012 joules. A kiloton is 4.2 x 1012 joules, so the gravitational potential energy is about a quarter of a kiloton or 280 tons of high explosive, per tower.

If only I were a religious man.  “Oh lord, please protect me from these degenerate freaks.”

For your amusement, a few “blasts from the past,” just to remind real Americans that the time may come when we might want to hunt down the murdering bastards responsible for 9/11.  As most work within the Beltway, travel will be affordable.

These photos of “Ground Zero” will make a case for the Island of Manhattan, perhaps as of old, “The Military District of Manhattan,” as an underground testing facility for nuclear weapons of 3% fission initiation assembled from re-machined W54 pits transferred through Britain in partnership with South African, Zimbabwean arms dealers, working with Israel and the Bush family (not 41, we have found that there were several assassination attempts made, perhaps from ‘inside his own loving family’ tied to his inability to keep the kids in line…more on this later)  and assisted by Victor Bout, now sequestered in an American prison.

Don't Look at the Nasty Hole in the Middle
Don’t Look at the Nasty Hole in the Middle


Nuclear Test Facility Overview, Manhattan
Nuclear Test Facility Overview, Manhattan


No Photos of the Huge Molten Granite Crater Please!
No Photos of the Huge Molten Granite Crater Please!


Hey, I didn't do this one
Hey, I didn’t do this one


Oh, so that's where those plans went
Oh, so that’s where those plans went


One more, of many, courtesy of the UN Non Proliferation Investigation Team at the WTC (Who?)
One more, of many, courtesy of the UN Non Proliferation Investigation Team at the WTC (Who?)


Familiar look?
Familiar look?


For the curious who pay attention, closing the door
For the curious who pay attention, closing the door


Call it a landslide, an escape from reality...Queen
Call it a landslide, an escape from reality…Queen
A picture worth 3 words:  "Bush did it"
A picture worth 3 words: “Bush did it”


A typical underground nuclear testing site
A typical underground nuclear testing site


When Nukes go off underground, it looks like this
When Nukes go off underground, it looks like this


Are we making a point yet?
Are we making a point yet?


Place nuke here, light fuse.  Someone in a cave in Afghanistan didn't do this. It was planned in an office in the Pentagon.
Place nuke here, light fuse. Someone in a cave in Afghanistan didn’t do this. It was planned in an office in the Pentagon.


  1. A prime reason for all the heated arguments among 9/11 truthers, as to the precise details of the 9/11 “attacks” (nukes vs. thermite, passenger jets vs. drones. vs. missles vs. CGI , nearly 3000 dead vs. mostly fictional “victims”, Israeli spooks vs. USA spooks, etc.) is that A GREAT DEAL of the publicly available 9/11 evidence has either been tampered with or is the product of outright fabrication.

    This very serious, perhaps intractable “evidence problem,” as compellingly pointed out by the rival research teams led by Simon Shack and Phil Jayhan, would make building a courtroom-quality legal case against the real perps nigh impossible — and they’ve been counting on that, ever since they first drew up their hideous, warmongering plans.

    The “chains of possession” and “authentic sources” of much of the 9/11 record (photos, videos, witness statements, even “victim bios”) have become so polluted with distortions, fraud and deliberate confusion that an international-consensus legal remedy someday (akin to the Nuremberg trials and subsequent perp-executions) — when Russia/China presides over a defeated USA/UK — could only be accomplished by the same Kangaroo-style, legal hijinks that indeed DID go on, in finally bringing the Nazis to the justice those murdering thugs so richly deserved.

    But lest we gloat too giddily on this 70th Anniversary of the Omaha Beach Human Sacrifice Ritual, such justice did NOT come at the behest of opponents/victors whose OWN hands were very clean!

  2. “Is this the real life?
    Is this just fantasy?
    CAUGHT IN a landslide,
    NO escape from reality.” – Queen

    I hear Alex Jones has some good products for Alzheimer’s, Gordie…

  3. Great photos,

    OK, now I’m a believer…

    But risky leaving the biggest proofs in crime history at the scene *and* in such a way that it is impossible to move them. (The two nuclear pits under ground.)

    So… in the future… I’d guess, everyone will know…

  4. Is there anyway you could save a .tif (,tiff) copy when you scan the architectural files? The files are huge but you could zip them all together.

  5. tool– If you Really want to know– try reading Dimitri’s book to have your questions answered.

  6. Just for the hell of it I checked out Jim STONE and sure enough he is mirroring this piece, same pics and all. Only he has made an enormous error by saying that there is a hole in the middle of the Tower…….There is NOT……………..The hole which is visible is in Building 6….most likely caused by falling debris.. WTF is up here?


  7. if MSM were honest, Gordon Duff would get the Pulitzer Prize this year, for his ongoing Nuclear Education series at

    of course, if MSM were honest, they would have have reported this extensively at least 12 years ago.

    Duff’s tone is sarcastic and defiant. he’s looking over the edge of his trench and lobbing grenades and curses. and only his bravado and public visibility and protection in some high places, is keeping him alive.

    the documents, the trail of nuclear education evidence is clear, he puts the hidden pieces of this picture puzzle together.

    these puzzle pieces were not of supposed ice age glacial gouges in the WTC bedrock or other fantastical miracle–it is an underground nuclear explosion cavity.

  8. Those Hard Hats are setting anchors for the Freedom Tower…Notice their bore machine. Also notice the crane being used just to help set the re-bar. The Freedom Tower has a reinforced concrete core… convenient would a left over crater be? They could be excavating loose rock….but I see no dumps or dozers, no hoes…….pinning is what they are working at.

    If more people understood how these things were constructed……..this ship would have never ever sailed. Not even this cabal is that stupid as to believe it even plausible let alone even remotely possible. Yet they used planes and jet fuel ……anyone pissed off at being played like chumps yet?


    • “If more people understood how these things were constructed…”

      As a civil engineer with some background in structural engineering, my “that’s not right” detector went off before the piece of the first exploded tower hit the ground. A “hinge” developing where the alleged aircraft allegedly impacted the buildings and the portion above toppling I might have accepted (but even that is far-fetched), but not the near total disintegration we saw.

      But if I had not broken free of the conditioning (brainwashing) of our public schools and mass media some years before, would I have come to the same conclusions, or would I simply refuse to accept the evidence contradicting ingrained beliefs as so many people do?

      Apparently, you can fool most of the people most of the time.

  9. This is very interesting. Thanks Gordon for posting those post pics ie excavation. The bedrock looks to have taken a pounding from something over and above anchor bore holes pre steel erection……anyway the above photo of post collapse is Tower one. Due note the mass in the center of that pic….it’s a portion of the core of that particular tower……….for those less versed in how they were actually constructed.. someone please point out those massive box columns which were supposed to comprise them.

    Someone correctly surmised those to be columns having to do with the lifts..plan floor 47-48…yes, they are called ” elevator guide steel ” only some seem to think that they are actually core columns…they are not.

    I have photos of the Grills used to bolt columns to…..each weighing in at several tons per……the footers ie pads used for each, would have been anchored to the bedrock….via bore holes and bolts…….footers would never simply rest atop bedrock…..too unstable for such a beast…. any type of nuke must have been buried within said bedrock………how they did this is beyond my grasp……..given that the portion of twin #1’s core survived such a thing does give me a bit of pause…when it comes to buried nukes. Maybe something directional, or a type of chain reaction which would have been a built in deconstruct system.

    Still very very interesting. Love the emotional release…..need more of it.


    • Yup-Raptor, You’re analysis leaves out the part about 9/11 having been planned for a very long time.
      Do you think that maybe a new building had already been planned for? They did have to coverup the massive molten holes as quickly as possible, but why not install the necessary footing for a new building at the same time? Read Dimitri’s book and you’ll learn Much more.

    • Yeah I’m sure it wasn’t an overnight sensation akin to a one hit wonder. Further, I was taught long ago to avoid suspected psyops and focus on what is known. My advantage is having poured lots of concrete, tied tons of steel…….and forgotten more about concrete work than most will ever care to know.

      Footings and reinforcement coincide with mass…….directly coincide. there is none here who could lift one length of rebar used in those foundations, let alone pack it away.. lol.. so when they roped it all off and some idiot claimed that it was to control theft and looting, I wet myself from laughter.

      My point is simple and it ties directly to what Gordon is so cleverly hinting at….Those structures required a force of energy far beyond what was told to even damage them let alone completely raze them……It confounds me that so many people fail to understand this as FACT. In my opinion it’s what made this such an easy sell. Only NONE who actually work in the field would ever believe it whether they ever admit it or not.

      I appreciate your reply.


  10. Excellent article! I see you’ve taken the gloves off. I would estimate there is at least one materials engineer, you’ve made very uncomfortable. We are on the precipice of what Paul Craig Roberts has termed our “Final War”, so I hope people of good conscience in the military and in our ‘Intelligence Community’ are reading this and come forward before it’s too late.

  11. You gotta wonder if ‘Rummy’ was on the ‘shrooms’ when he came out with that BS………………

  12. A thought about the bottom of the hole. Allegedly the firemen reported molten steel. The melting point for steel is about 1500 degrees Celsius which happens to be the melting point for granite. Is it possible that the nuked WTC plunged into a molten bath of rock where steel and rock mixed?

    • Sure would have been interesting to get some geiger counter readings at the time on video. One NYC official talked about banning geiger counters??? Even now it’s probably radioactive. I wish those responders would have had hazmat suits on….many are getting cancer and suing now.
      http //
      Here the old double PsyOp says there were no positive readings for the NYC area for radiation after 9/11/01, all the while we later learn there was; and that these readings were simply declared to be false. One web commenter responded, “Who you gonna trust— your Geiger Counter or FEMA?” See some NYC residents make some astute comments here http //

      These photographs sure weren’t widely distributed at the time. Mostly I just saw all the above ground damage then. Do you remember seeing this?

      How did they get all that gold out of the basement of bldg. 7 then? Maybe that one was just wired and not blown up from underneath like this tower was. Maybe just enough rubble there to keep the gold safe until they could get around to collecting it later.

    • Maybe you should read Dimitri’s book, too. He explains much more. Geiger Counters were banned from
      the site! So were cameras! The work force was even reduced so that there wouldn’t be so many “loose lips”. The absolute shame of those in charge to let the workers be exposed, while their own people were
      protected with hazmat suits, is a shame that they will lie about forever!! People are expendable.
      Those in charge are still working hard, with many shills helping, to keep the facts from the people.
      Reading, in depth, is our only option– the MSM can not expose it, their mouths are glued shut.

    • “How did they get all that gold out of the basement of bldg. 7 then?”

      WTC7 collapse looks very much like a planned controlled demolition, where the columns for each floor are cut by explosives in sequence top down. WTC 1 and 2 exploding look like nothing seen before or since.

  13. Great theories, but, what happened to Barbara Olson? (joking, joking! That’s a typical remark when you tell someone that there were no planes, but there were plane parts.)

    I have several photos of the skeleton of T1 back when it was a mere 400 ft. high, so that it is easy to see the thousands of steel floor/ceiling joists, core girders, and exterior boxed girders. Every 39” of outer structure was a 14” boxed girder and 25” window opening. It’s easy to overlook the horizontal mass of steel and concrete when we focus only on vertical girders.)
    What seems so obvious to many of us is totally impossible for many others to accept. Even with pictures.

    I won’t start a huge debate here, but many of us have seen pics of “orange, glowing puddles” across which firemen have drug acetylene hoses, and paper is not burning under the puddles. “All that glows is not hot,” and Dr. Woods says. Like a lightening bug.
    The ultimate question may be, “is the truth knowable?”

  14. Move it to the perpetually floating barge of sea garbage out in the far-reaches of the ocean where it belongs. All dumps need rats and vice versa.

  15. On RT this morning (0130 to 2000hrs GMT) there was a groundbreaking edition of ‘Breaking the set’ with the young female journalist. Two former long term US intelligence officials (One had run the NSA from 1975 to 2001) came on to the programme and verbally attacked the ‘government’ now ensconced in Washington. They declared publicly whilst discussing security and privacy issues that the current US government is the main problem – as it is seeking to destroy the US Constitution. These men are clearly patriotic Americans who feel that the ‘regime’ currently in power is rogue. They correctly stated that it is no use splitting hairs about this whistleblower or that whistleblower – when the real problem is the government which is out of control. This programme must not be missed!

    • Maybe that’s what this whole Bergdahl PSYOP is about — a distraction. Look over here, not over there!

    • I of course meant to say 0130 to 0200hrs GMT! Amazing programme. The old patriotic senior guard of the CIA and NSA attacking the new inverted criminal order of post 9/11. Despite having devoted their lives to the security of America – both men had been raided at home and them and their families threatened – which really tells you all you need to know about gangsters now running the government.

  16. Gordon, Jim – call me old Mr cynical – but I have been smelling a new tactic by the cabal trolls of late. When an important VT article such as this one is posted the commentary is eventually diluted these days by lots of irrational and madcap comments from people openly claiming in their text to be suffering from a mental disorder of some kind. Now lets take a look at this.

    If it is TRUE – perhaps their comment should be removed for their own sake. If their mind is unbalanced for whatever reason – then they are not thinking straight and this is not the time to consider a vitally important issue. If it is UNTRUE then the purpose of the weird and wonderful comments is clearly to steal the impact of important commentary and to portray all the author’s readers as a group of rather strange and disturbed individuals. This may well serve some nefarious purpose for the enemy cabal – especially to mislead younger people and students coming across the work.

    I do not wish to be overly cruel here – and God knows we are all tested in these wholly subverted and unhappy times. All the same we should look at this new trait.

    • They’ve got most of the comments in the MSM sown up…. the moderators have got to be hasbara stooges. I notice them more and more on alternative sites as the public abandon the MSM.

    • Turn your computer monitor rightside-up. It’ll make a lot more sense. I’ve read Dmitri’s stuff, BTW. It makes sense but he doesn’t really address the multiple-nuke theory, which this CLEARLY was.

      Destroying a tower this tall had NEVER been done before. The Isrealites are / were real pioneers, on this one. Destroying and mass-murdering comes as naturally as breathing to this scum, but still, they hadn’t been this audacious, ever, before. They were breaking new ground.

      One big nuke in the basement might very well topple the building sideways and take out half of lower Manhattan. The Israelites couldn’t risk that, too much insurance money on the line.

  17. Pieczenik may speak highly of 41, but the things that Stew says, who would dare put a serious hit on him. Maybe he wasnt on board with 911 because it wasnt evil enough. And wouldnt Cheney be the bigger player than Willie or 43? Kepp up the great work.

    • The info of Clinton and 43, and on 41 sure threw me for a loop. Maybe 41 simply wasn’t evil enough. Maybe just when you think there couldn’t be anyone more evil, there is?

  18. Great job Gordon. You are the tip of the spear and the pressure is on them from all sides. Paul Craig Roberts included this in a recent article;

    PRESS RELEASE World Trade Center Building 7’s Controlled Demolition 9/11 Consensus Panel Releases New Evidence from Witness Testimonies and Architectural Drawings

    June 1, 2014 –The 24-member 9/11 Consensus Panel – which includes physicists, chemists, engineers, commercial pilots, attorneys and lawyers – today announced three new studies confirming the controlled demolition of World Trade Center 7.

    The studies scientifically refute the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) claim that, for the first time in history, fire caused the sudden and complete collapse of a large, fire-protected, steel-framed building on 9/11.

    (Note that whereas the Consensus Panel uses a scientific methodology to peer-review its work, the NIST report was not peer-reviewed.)

    The first Panel study deals with the NIST computer simulations, which purported to show that fire-induced thermal expansion caused a girder to be pushed off its seat at Column 79, thereby initiating a global collapse of the entire 47-story building at 5 21 in the afternoon.

    However, a recent FOIA request has produced WTC 7 architectural drawings showing that the NIST simulations omitted basic structural supports that would have made this girder failure impossible.

    ***http //

    • Thanks wolf. PCR is well-respected and does some good stuff.

      The more respected truth beavers like PCR & GD we have eating away at the official narrative, the sooner the Lie Tree is going to collapse.

      (no disrepect intended to PCR & GD or readers with my lame metaphor – hey, it’s early)

  19. I love this website! I often feel as if I’m playing a small role in a big movie and following the plot as somewhat an insider, but not totally. There’s always some ‘carrot’ in front of my nose and it keeps me moving, looking for the “real” nugget of truth. That is what everyone that comes here is really searching for. The truth. There seems to be a curious mix of fact and fiction at VT and we’re to use our own discernment to weed it out the best we can. Discernment is and has always been the key ingredient. Mine gets sharpened every time I come here. Thanks, guys!

  20. In Clif High’s 18 May 2014 report, he predicted that a big scandal will break in August 2014.
    http //

    5 35 mins
    “It’s going to be a very interesting August, fraught with upset.
    There are going to be a lot of people claiming some kind of a fraud set-up at a very high level.
    This is going to taint the USA political administration apparently at both parties.
    It’s going to spread quite wide and it’s going to taint them at a level that we’ll see a bunch of resignations.
    I don’t know if the resignations will come in August or not.
    The scandal appears to break then.

  21. John B. Lucas, if two huge planes slammed into the towers, what happened to their debris? Two nose cones, four wings, six tail fins, and all those tires, yet not one piece got hurled backwards into the streets below. How could that be? No human remains, no luggage parts, no metal chunks of anything, what happened? How could both planes slice through solid steel from nose to tail and not break up? Check the footage in slow motion, and you will see bursts of smoke interspaced the length of the towers prior to the collapse. Now what could that be?

    You don’t have to believe what you read here. But if you believe the vicious lies that cover up for this crime you may as well save your wifi and stick to general media news. After all the information that has surfaced and continues to accumulate, you owe it to our fallen to at least stop carrying the water for those who have put our nation at risk.

    • “Even if they PROVED that 9/11 was an inside job…I still wouldn’t believe it.”
      –John B. Lucas

      What happened to the airplane debris you ask?

      Popular Mechanics, while mentioning that an engine from the South Tower airliner landed in the street, neglected to show an engine photo, engine street location, and engine positive identification.

      Just by identifying undamaged parts from the damaged engine, positive identification of the engine was made in the article. HOWEVER, the engine identified, a CFM56, is the primary engine of the Boeing 737 NOT the Boeing 767 alleged to have struck the South Tower.

      WTF? You mean the FBI planted a phony wrecked jet engine on the street as false evidence? NO! Say it ain’t so…They wouldn’t do that. Would they?

    • “… a CFM56, …”

      Thanks. Any thories how this could have been moved on the street? It should have the weight of a Range Rover, ca. 2000 kg.

    • stephan; here is a link to an article with plenty of photos and links to other articles and videos about this; ***http //

    • Interesting. I never noticed that they prepared it with a little smoke device. If it was prepared it is possible that it even did not weight 2000 kg. Easier to place it on the street, maybe like half empty rusted cars.

      I searched for the real engine for a Boeing 767-200. It is a JT9D-7R4D, weighting 4000 kg. Was this too heavy for them to move it on the street? No fork lift availabe?

    • Stephan – such phoney evidence would have been moved into position before the event, of course. They had all the time in the world to arrange this.

    • Maybe that’s what one of those bogus Israeli moving companies was moving – planted evidence.

    • John B. Lucas obviously suffers from this affliction…………….

      Apparently, the human mind has an inbuilt coping mechanism which is activated when something so terrible has taken place, i.e. The US Governments involvement in 9/11, that to face the truth would go against all that they have come to perceive as ‘reality’ and as such, no amount of evidence will convince them of the truth.

    • John B. Lucas, any relation to George Lucas, infamous zionist propagandist of Star Wars fame, the Jewish wet-dream of not just global but galactic Jewish supremacy?

  22. these photos are the biz. apart from their intrinsic artistic merit they may help tie up a few little matters, like the pyroclastic cloud and the ejected debris.

    looks like Gitmo is going to come in real handy sooner than i expected. one other minor detail i’m still curious about is whether Silverstein actually showed for the appointment he almost forgot, to have his scales cleaned at his dermatologist’s surgery on the morning of September 11th. it was disappointing that CNN never thought to do a little human interest interview with the receptionist(s) working there that fateful day – would have added a nice personal touch – a counterpoint to the big events going down in Manhattan.

    btw how is Dimitri doing in Thailand?

  23. Mr. Duff, Thanks for your untiring diligence…Keep it (the TRUTH re 9/11) coming!!! The momentum is tipping, & the perps are having nightmares about their future payback. May JUSTICE, at last, be served!!! We The People demand it!!! No more lies & distortions or “divide & conquer” tactics. Truth has its own powerful dynamic…ie unstoppable!!!

    • We haven’t even begun yet. This takes some unexpected nasty turns. I am perhaps finding the hand of Clinton in it with 43.
      Thus, I am trying to get some things straight. We have law enforcement people across Texas, Houston PD in particular, Waco, and others, helping steal nukes, transport them in reefer trucks, store them in Houston warehouses, and ship them out thru the Canary Islands.
      Nice job with those “oaths”

    • Not necessarily Clinton and 43, but some of their top people. Viktor Bout has had a long career, too.

    • Good point, Howard. When mentioning the Clintons, it is very important to say WHICH one we are talking about. I had assumed that Gordon was talking about Bill, the President.

    • Victor Bout was set up as a patsy. Dimitri spends time in his book to explain it all.
      He and Dimitri lived in the same village in Russia and knew each other well.
      Nicholas Cage had as much to do with 9/11 as Victor Bout!!

  24. Gordon Duff, I love you!!
    Keep up the good work.
    We’re going to nail those bastards to the floorboards.

  25. Gordon – The masses of the US – and the rest of the world – will never accept the reality of 9/11 until it is reported on TV and through the major outlets that define their reality, but this is precisely what cannot happen as these media are controlled by the same “clique” that planned or profited from the attack. So, in your opinion, what would be required for information like what you’ve posted to make it onto people’s TVs? Many figures throughout alternative media take part in this myth of “imminent mass arrests” of the whatever-you-call-them gang. I’m just really curious if you think something like that is at all possible.

  26. yeah “jet fuel” burning dirty and cool far above ground makes solid granite melt and flow like lava hundreds of feet below it, wait no.. they poured the concrete to look like that when they built it because it’d be stronger!

    I’m sure ‘slippery bunghole’ will find a way to call anything 911 truth related as being ‘anti-semitic’, no doubt his new megaphone app is already ringing off the hook about this article with PICTURES, lmao.

  27. Great collection. Can anyone explain what happenes with the massive ground when a nuke explodes? Does it leave the “hole” and go up as dust?

    • anyone? ok.. initial high freq blast dustifies-atomizes a lot that blows up and out, escapes the extreme heat that immediately follows to fusion melt everything “glass parkeeng lot” style..

      its so laughable they tried to cite “jet fuel” as the cause, if it were true all our BBQ’s would be melted down before we could even think about grilling the first batch of hamburgers on em.

    • I try to imagine the process. So if it was done outside, for example on Mount Rushmore, in September, would the granite faces melt and leave a Mount Rushmore looking like a molten iceberg? With molten granite in a pool five months later, in February?

  28. Anyone looking at that hole in the bedrock – and concluding that it was caused by an aircraft striking the building many hundreds of feet above it – needs to be entered onto a business mailing list. They would certainly represent a new category of highly gullible direct mail responders. They might just be the ideal clients for my company’s new (pre-construction) holiday condominium complex – beach front in the Nevada desert. For SPECIAL pre-construction prices contact my development agent – Lucky Larry Silverscream.

    • lol omg.. an ex was taught watergate was about someone releasing a bunch of white mice in congress, when she asked about the mice in another classroom a couple years later she was about laughed out of the room. I’m not gonna rail against the thermite heads, I really wouldnt doubt some was used to help de-structure the buildings just before the BIG “fireworks” were lit to finish controlled demolishing.

    • My “sarcasm meter” just went to 11! Love your contributions here, HTLIII! I am a proponent of your father’s story and history, as well. Glad to know you. Thank you SO much for making a difference. Peace.

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