9/11 Hokum: Deconstructing Christopher Bollyn and Steve Jones

9/11 Hokum: Deconstructing Christopher Bollyn and Steve Jones

 

… by  Don Fox

 

I have come to realize two central truths about the events of 9/11: Israel did it and they used nuclear bombs to demolish the WTC buildings. These are the two pillars of 9/11 research: Zionists and Nukes. If you come out with credible information that supports the involvement either of these pillars expect to be attacked. The attacks will be especially fierce if you come out with credible information on the nuclear demolition of the World Trade Center buildings.

Gordon Duff recently published several articles (38) in his VT Nuclear Education series on Veterans Today that confirmed that the World Trade Center buildings were nuked on 9/11. Right on cue the Zionist shill Christopher Bollyn came out and attacked Gordon for being a “Disinfo Toad” for supporting the WTC Nuclear Demolition Hypothesis. Of course Chris wasn’t able to refute the evidence for fission and fusion at Ground Zero.  Articles listed below:

  1. 1) veteranstoday.com/2014/05/20/too-classified-to-publish-bush-nuclear-piracy-exposed/
    2) veteranstoday.com/2014/05/20/nuke-cancer-from-911-revealed/
    3) veteranstoday.com/2014/05/21/doc-submitted-by-russian-intel/
    4) veteranstoday.com/2014/05/22/constructing-the-nuclear-child/
    5) www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/31/vt-nuclear-education-series/
    6) veteranstoday.com/2014/06/01/nuclear-education-series-dimona-classified/
    7) veteranstoday.com/2014/06/01/vt-nuclear-terrorism-education-series/
    8) veteranstoday.com/2014/06/02/vt-nuclear-education-undeniable-proof-of-911-as-a-nuclear-event/
    9) veteranstoday.com/2014/06/18/vt-nuclear-education-as-the-hammer-drops/
    10) veteranstoday.com/2014/06/24/vt-nuclear-education-mossadn-korea-links-mox/
    11) veteranstoday.com/2014/06/24/nuclear-roundtable-americas-nuclear-arsenal/
    12) veteranstoday.com/2014/07/07/officials-site-thermo-nuke-in-911-demo/
    13) veteranstoday.com/2014/07/08/vt-nuclear-education-fission-based-thermobaric-weapons/
  2. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/23/mapping-fort-lee-the-truth-behind-911/

Additional supporting material on 9/11, nuclear physics and disclosure issues:

  1. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/13/vt-nuclear-education-anti-gravity/
  2. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/14/neo-mini-nukes-and-m16-the-economy-of-war/ (must read)
  3. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/15/vt-nuclear-education-nukes-in-iraq-confirmation/
  4. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/24/vt-flexing-its-nuclear-muscle/ (must read)
  5. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/28/nuclear-911-revealed-theories-and-disinformation-the-misguided-and-the-inhuman/ (must read)
  6. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/30/vt-nuclear-education-tactical-nuclear-warfare/ (must read)
  7. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/30/vt-nuclear-education-early-reactors/
  8. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/01/iaea-investigators-audit-reveals-us-not-iran-the-problem/ (must read)
  9. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/03/vt-nuclear-education-history-of-mini-nukes/ (must read)
  10. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/08/vt-nuclear-education-answering-the-hype/ (must read)
  11. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/14/vt-nuclear-education-a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-atom-smasher/ (must read)
  12. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/15/vt-nuclear-education-lenr-neutron-distribution/
  13. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/17/einsteins-theory-on-magnetic-buoyancy-and-its-application-to-the-space-time-continuum-or-gravity/
  14. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/21/vt-science-fuel-cell-technology/
  15. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/05/vt-science-haarp/
  16. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/16/fusion-junk-science-for-rubes/
  17. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/17/neo-nuclear-threats-enter-the-mainstream/ (must read)
  18. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/18/vt-science-nasas-low-energy-fusion-voodoodoodoo/
  19. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/10/the-connection-between-aurora-and-black-triangles/
  20. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/31/jeff-smith-on-the-upcoming-able-danger-leak/
  21. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/09/vt-nuclear-education-japan/
  22. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/03/vt-nuclear-education-detonations-and-deceit/
  23. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/28/deconstructing-christopher-bollyn-and-steve-jones/
  24. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/11/330695/

The Duplicity of Steve Jones

Many in the 9/11 Truth Movement consider Steve Jones to be a hero. Closer examination revels he is far from it. Jones is a nuclear physicist who denies nuclear bombs were used on 9/11. Once you understand the evidence for nuclear fission and fusion at Ground Zero the disingenuous of Jones becomes apparent.

What better way to derail 9/11 Truth than to have a nuclear physicist who denies nukes? Steve has probably done more damage to 9/11 Truth than all of the other shills combined. Bollyn is a supporter of the Steve Jones nanothermite theory that has been thoroughly debunked numerous times.

Steve Jones wrote a paper in 2006 (revised in 2007) that is often cited by the nuke denying crowd: Hard Evidence Repudiates the Hypothesis that Mini-Nukes Were Used on the WTC Towers. Jeff Prager and I wrote an article last year that refutes Jones’ paper point by point. For a complete breakdown see Open Letter to Steve Jones: Hard Evidence Supports the 9/11 Mini-Nuke Hypothesis and Mystery Solved: The WTC was Nuked on 9/11.

The Department of Energy Water Samples

The first thing Jones tries to refute is the tritium levels in the basement of WTC Building 6: “Observation of tritium (an important component of hydrogen-bomb fuel) at WTC sites at the few nano-curie level only. This is strong evidence against the mini-nuke hypothesis.” As we observed in our article Jones fails to account for dilution of the tritium by four million gallons of water. Why was tritium found in the basement of WTC 6 in the first place? Leaking gun sights or EXIT signs can’t explain what happened to that building:

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There is a huge crater in the center of the building and it was so hot that firefighters has to spray millions of gallons of water on it. Clearly there was an explosion in the basement of WTC 6 and the presence of tritium confirms it was a thermonuclear explosion:Tritium is a very rare isotope of hydrogen containing one proton and two neutrons. Tritium is radioactive with a half-life of 12.32 years. Also Known As: hydrogen-3, 3H. Commercial uses of tritium account for only a small fraction of the tritium used worldwide.

Instead, the primary use of tritium has been to boost the yield of both fission and thermonuclear (or fusion) weapons, increasing the efficiency with which the nuclear explosive materials are used. Tritium generation from fusion reactions is much higher than from fission. The tritium that is produced by a nuclear explosion is almost completely converted to tritiated water (HTO), which then mixes with environmental water.

This is EXACTLY what we see in the basement of Six World Trade. Jones makes no effort to explain HOW the tritium got in the basement absent a thermonuclear explosion. Instead he just states that “these results are well below the levels of concern to human exposure.”

The USGS Dust Samples

The fifth point in Jones’ paper is especially egregious: Nuclear activation or residual “fall-out” radioactivity (above background) was NOT observed, in tests performed by the author on actual WTC samples. This result is consistent with the low Iodine-131 measured by independent researchers (point 2 above) and the low radionuclide counts (point 4 above) and again provides compelling evidence against the mini-nuke-at-Towers hypothesis.

Jones’ analysis of the dust samples collected from Janette MacKinlay’s apartment is suspect to say the least. Fortunately we have far more reliable data from the dust samples collected by the USGS. If all you knew about 9/11 was all of the common fission products that show up on the chemistry table of the USGS dust samples: Arsenic, Rubidium, Strontium, Barium, Yttrium, Niobium, Molybdenum, Silver, Cadmium, Antimony, Cesium, Lanthanum and Cerium, you would be highly suspicious 9/11 was a nuclear event. Let’s look at just four elements found in the USGS dust samples (barium, strontium, copper and zinc) and how they prove nuclear fission took place: From Jeff Prager’s nuclear fission break down in Mystery Solved:

Barium and Strontium: People might argue that strontium and barium could be found in building debris and they would be correct however strontium and barium could never, under any circumstances, be found as building debris constituents in a demolition in these quantities.

The levels never fall below 400ppm for Barium and they never drop below 700ppm for Strontium and they reach over 3000ppm for both of them at WTC01-16, Broadway and John Streets. Why?

Barium and Strontium are rare Trace elements with limited industrial uses. The enormous peak in Barium and Strontium concentration at WTC01-16 is readily apparent in the chart below. The concentration of the two elements reaches 3130ppm for Strontium and 3670ppm for Barium or over 0.3% by weight of the dust.

This means that 0.37% of the sample was Barium and 0.31% of the sample was Strontium by weight at that location, WTC01-16, Broadway and John Streets. The Mean concentration for Barium including the very low girder coating samples is 533ppm and for Strontium it’s 727ppm. These are not Trace amounts. They are highly dangerous and extremely toxic amounts. They are also critical components of nuclear fission and the decay process.

Barium and Strontium

Here we’re plotting the concentration of Barium at each location against the Strontium concentration. The correlation between the concentrations of the two elements, Barium and Strontium is extremely high. The Coefficient of Correlation between the concentration of Barium and Strontium at the outdoor and indoor sampling locations is 0.99 to 2 decimal places (0.9897 to 4 decimal places).

So we have a Correlation Coefficient between the concentration of Barium and the concentration of Strontium of 0.9897, or near perfect. The maximum Correlation Coefficient that is mathematically possible is 1.0 and this would mean we have a perfect match between the two factors we’re examining and the data points would lie on a straight line with no variation between them. To obtain a Correlation Coefficient of 0.9897 with this number of measurements (14) around Lower Manhattan is very, very significant indeed.

What this means is that we can say that there’s a 99% correlation in the variation in the concentration between these two elements. They vary in lockstep; they vary together. When one element varies so does the other. We can state with absolute mathematical certainty that any change in the concentration of one of these elements, either the Barium or Strontium, is matched by the same change in the concentration of the other. Whatever process gave rise to the presence of either the Barium or the Strontium must have also produced the other as well.

Fission is the only process that explains this. Zinc: In this graph Zinc has been divided by a factor of 10 to avoid losing all the detail in the scaling if the ‘Y’ axis instead went up to 3000ppm. The variation in Lead is matched by the variation in Zinc almost perfectly across all sampling locations, including the Indoor and Girder Coating samples. The concentration of Copper follows that of Zinc with one distinct exception at WTC01-15, Trinity and Cortlandt Streets, just several hundred feet East of Building Four.

There seem to be two Copper-Zinc relationships. If some of the Zinc was being formed by beta decay of Copper, then the high Copper at WTC01-15 could reduce Zinc, since formation of Zinc by that decay pathway would be retarded by material being held up at the Copper stage, before decaying on to Zinc. Therefore this graph does confirm that some of the Zinc was indeed being formed by beta decay of Copper. This would at least be a very small mercy for the civilian population exposed in this event since the Zinc isotopes formed from Copper are stable, i.e. they are not radioactive.

Zinc Lead Copper

The copper found in the Ground Zero dust is indicative of nuclear fission. If we plot the concentration of Copper against Zinc and Nickel, we obtain the graphs pictured here. The concentration of Nickel was almost the same everywhere, except for the peak of 88ppm matched by the Copper peak of 450ppm.

The Copper – Zinc relationship is very interesting, showing in fact two distinct relationships again depending on isotopic composition. There are two radioactive isotopes of Copper (Cu 64 and Cu 67) with short half-lives of 12.7 hours and 2.58 days respectively which decay into Zinc isotopes. The other two isotopes (Cu 60 and Cu 61) decay the other way by positron emission into Nickel and in fact Cu 64 goes both ways, into both Nickel and Zinc.

This would explain why there strongly appear to be two Copper – Zinc relationships. The decay of radioactive Copper by beta particle emission into Zinc would have been another source for the extraordinarily high concentrations of Zinc found in the World Trade Center Dust. Looking at the data for Zinc we see that the Zinc concentration for WTC01-02, Water Street at the intersection of New York, is 2990ppm and this immediately stands out. In fact, for the outdoor samples, Zinc is the most common Trace element at all sampling locations, with generally between 1000ppm and 2000ppm except for this spike of nearly 3000ppm at WTC01-02.

This equates to an enormous concentration of Zinc. 0.1% to 0.2% of Zinc in the dust overall and at WTC01-02, 0.299% of the dust was Zinc. This exceeds the concentration of the supposed “non-Trace” element Manganese and Phosphorous and almost equals the elevated Titanium concentration of 0.39% at that same location.

What process produced the zinc? If we include the data for WTC01-16, the Correlation Coefficient between the Zinc and Barium concentration is 0.007 to 3 decimal places, from which we can conclude that there is absolutely no correlation at all. But if we exclude that one sampling location, where Barium and Strontium concentrations peaked, the correlation coefficient between Zinc and Barium is 0.96 to two decimal places and between Zinc and Strontium, 0.66 to two decimal places.

So what happened? There is a very strong linear relationship between Barium and Zinc found at the World Trade Center. This may indicate that a closely related nuclear sub-process gave rise to them, which produced 3 times as much Zinc as Barium by weight. If so, that would be a very unusual nuclear event.

There is a lesser known nuclear process that accounts for this, which would be indicative of very high energies indeed. This process is known as Ternary Fission. What does evidence for Ternary Fission in the dust samples mean to us in the 9/11 context? First, that the destruction of the WTC buildings was a very high energy event. Ternary Fission requires high energy levels. Two 110 story buildings were converted to dust in 9 and 11 seconds respectively.

Ground temperatures were between 600 and 2,000 °F for 6 months after 9/11 – it takes a lot of energy to heat that much ground for that long – only underground nuclear explosions can explain this. Secondly, it sheds some light on the types of devices used. A hydrogen bomb is a two stage device. The fission primary stage is used to generate enough heat to start a more powerful fusion reaction of deuterium and tritium, the two heavier isotopes of hydrogen.

Often times the primary fission stage is boosted with tritium and that appears to be the case here. A typical nuclear fission event will split the uranium nucleus into two unequal fragments typically around mass 95 and 137. Ternary fission splits the nucleus into three parts and true ternary fission splits it into three equal fragments (mass 30) or zinc.

We see copper decaying into zinc in the dust samples but that doesn’t explain all of it. True Ternary Fission explains the high amount of zinc in the dust. We see evidence for fission-triggered fusion bombs in the dust and water samples.

Radiological Cleanup

With all of the radioactive fallout at Ground Zero it was necessary for the perpetrators to re-mediate the soil and decontaminate all material leaving. Seeing these pictures of the cleanup there can be little doubt nuclear bombs were detonated:

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M291 resin is required in order to prepare for a full radiological decontamination at ground zero. Dozens of trucks immediately on scene the afternoon of 9/11 with this military grade decontamination material.

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NNSA (National Nuclear Security Administration) Radiological Assistance Program members of Brookhaven, NY RAP Region 1 performing full radiological decontamination before leaving ground zero.

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The NNSA (National Nuclear Security Administration) has protocol for the full radio-logical decontamination of all material leaving ground zero which even includes GPS chipping materials using the latest in satellite security.

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NNSA (National Nuclear Security Administration) Radiological Assistance Program members of Brookhaven, NY RAP Region 1 performing work at the radioactive landfill site at Fresh Kills, New York. Notice not just breathing protection from exposure to artificial ionizing radiation, but protection of eyes and even ear canals as well.

Iron-Rich Spheres

Did thousands of tons of nanothermite produce the iron-rich spheres at Ground Zero? Here is an excerpt from T Mark Hightower’s old blog and I have reposted it on mine Calculations can help define the magnitude of various theories. I am referencing a calculation that Niels Harrit emailed to me and various others on 7/26/2011.

He calculated the amount of thermitic material that would have been necessary to account for the quantity of iron-rich spheres in the WTC dust, assuming of course that the iron reaction product of the thermite reaction was the source of the spheres. The range of thermitic material that he calculated was from 29,000 metric tons to 143,000 metric tons per Twin Tower, depending on the iron oxide concentration assumed for the thermitic material. T

hese numbers are unrealistically high in terms of the quantity of thermitic material that could have or would have been loaded into a Twin Tower by the perpetrators before its destruction, in my view, but that’s not what I want to get into right here. I want to use this huge quantity of iron-rich spheres to illustrate an alternate explanation for their presence.

An intermediate value from Harrit’s calculation referenced above was that conservatively 11,660 metric tons of iron-rich spheres were present in the dust generated from the destruction of one Twin Tower. If we assume that the iron-rich spheres were mostly iron, with the iron source possibly being the structural steel rather than thermitic material, the energy required to convert this much iron to the molten state can be calculated. (It is assumed that the iron-rich spheres required a prior molten state for their formation.)

Furthermore, if we express the energy in terms of the quantity of TNT equivalent based on its heat of explosion, these units can give us something to relate to in terms commonly associated with specifying the magnitude of nuclear explosions, kilotons. So if the calculation is done for just the energy necessary to melt the iron, on the order of 1 kiloton of TNT is the energy equivalent required.

If we also include the energy necessary to heat the iron from room temperature to its melting point, then on the order of 4 kilotons TNT equivalent would be required. Of course there would be more kilotons than this to account for all of the other destruction in addition to just producing the iron-rich spheres, so we are definitely talking about something in the multiple kiloton range. This helps to illustrate the magnitude of what we may be dealing with in the destruction of the Twin Towers and points towards the possibility of nuclear devices.

Does Nanothermite Even Exist?

On 12/13/2012 I had occasion to call Gordon Duff and get his take on nanothermite. Gordon states in the audio clip below that his guys at Los Alamos told him that they couldn’t produce anything smaller than 10 microns and it couldn’t blow a hole in a piece of paper.

They were able to produce some 6 micron nanothermite in zero gravity on the International Space Station that was exceedingly explosive. But they only produced a couple of grams! Not the thousands of tons needed to demolish the World Trade Center Buildings. If there is a factory out there producing 6 micron nanothermite Gordon is not aware of it.

Gordon Duff audio clip – nanothermite

Bollyn: I married an Israeli Intelligence Officer In the audio clip below Bollyn states that he married an Israeli intelligence officer and he has lived in Israel off and on since he was 18.

Christopher Bollyn audio clip – first wife

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The True Roles of Steve Jones and Christopher Bollyn in the 9/11 Cover up

Jones and Bollyn vehemently deny that the WTC buildings were nuked on 9/11 in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Bollyn talks about Israeli involvement in the events of 9/11 but promotes the nanothermite theory which cannot be tied to Israel or anyone else for that matter. It is not physically possible to demolish a building using non-existent nanothermite.

Bollyn is a guy that married an Israeli intelligence officer, has spent years living in Israel, denies the obvious evidence of nukes on 9/11 and he calls Gordon Duff a Disinfo Toad. Chris has revealed himself to be a complete Zionist Shill. No one should take him seriously as a 9/11 researcher.

We see your true colors Chris. There can be no doubt that Steve Jones knows he is promoting a fraudulent theory to the public. Steve has managed to deceive many people in the 9/11 Truth Movement over the years. We’re on to you Steve and your days of relevance in the 9/11 Truth Movement are waning.

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100 Responses to "9/11 Hokum: Deconstructing Christopher Bollyn and Steve Jones"

  1. Ted Gorsline  September 15, 2015 at 6:15 am

    Bollyn just did a fantastic You tube video called “Solving 911 Ends the war” but unless I missed it, it was removed from Rense the very next day. There is now a you tube video, by a lady flight attendant, showing a Mossad operative inside WTC with dozens and dozens of boxes of detonators. Regardless of who is right. VT with nukes or Bollyn with nano thermite. Both conlude correctly as did Dr Alan Sabrosky – first of all – that Israel – the Mossad – the Jewish state make that the Jews and their fifth columnists in America did it, and regardless of the type of explosive, that is a formal declaration of war on America by Israel. Time for total war with Israel, the world’s most evil terrorist state.

  2. Cold Wind  July 4, 2014 at 6:57 am

    Excellent article! Chris Bollyn has otherwise done good work, but as this persuasive article suggest, he needs to rethink his position regarding thermite–and… discard the ego problems.

  3. John Kirby  July 2, 2014 at 7:31 am

    120 comments on VT, but you will not hear a word of this in the MSM. Most of us agree that whatever the technology used the clues all point to Mossad. (Not Canada)

  4. ProtectUSA1st  July 1, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    “In her new book, Hillary Clinton writes that Turkey’s foreign minister told her that his country “might declare war on Israel” following Jerusalem’s 2010 attack on a flotilla carrying aid to Gaza, in which nine Turks and one Turkish-American were killed, Today’s Zaman reports.”

    “He was highly emotional and threatened that Turkey might declare war on Israel,” the former U.S. secretary of state writes, referring to Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, in her memoir “Hard Choices,” released Tuesday.”

    “Psychologically, this attack is like 9/11 for Turkey,” Davutoglu told her in a two-hour talk after the May 31, 2010 incident, Clinton writes. She adds, that Davutoglu noted that an American citizen was killed in the raid and asked her, “How can you not care?”

    =======Translation, even Turkey knows 9/11 was the done by Israel, “Don’t you care for almost 3,000 Americans?

  5. Brian  June 30, 2014 at 8:30 am

    Dear Ian and Don,

    I’m just wondering if you’re going to provide the VT readers all the information Bollyn sent you about nanoenergetic materials including nanoenergetic compounds. Perhaps the readers might be interested in Metastable Intermolecular Composites (IMICs) apparently one of the first examples of a category of nanoscale energetic materials, mixtures of nanoscale powders of reactants that exhibit thermite (high exothermicity) behavior.

    For example, Bollyn claims the AMPTIAC (DoD) material shows nanoenergetic materials can produce velocities up to 1,500 meters per second. AMPTIAC stands for Advanced Materials and Processes Technology Information Analysis Center, which is a DOD sponsored center.

    I don’t have expertise about nanoenergetic materials and nuclear weapons, so I don’t know for sure what the Mossad used to bring down the twin towers. It seems they used controlled demolition to bring down Building 7.

    • Snoopy  June 30, 2014 at 9:46 am

      Bldg 6 was nuked. Compare the images of Bldg 6 to the Murrah Federal Building and you will see an identical blast signature. 7 came down in the conventional manner.

    • facebookprogrammer  June 30, 2014 at 10:53 am

      WTC7 was completely re-fit in the late 1990’s to withstand the blast of a mini-nuke as a result of the 1993 mini-nuke bombing in the basement of WTC1. They don’t state this specifically using the term ‘nuclear’, but they state it was retro-fit to withstand the blast of X overpressure where X was something like 80 which can be nothing other than nuclear. Also, WTC7 had the same detonation cavity as towers 1 and 2 and also required the same amount of time to cool down as well as required the same amount of radiation-absorbing Pyrocool.

      Funniest part in all this is that even if you look on the WIKIPEDIA today @ aerial images of heat scores as well as smoke plumes, the SOURCE of the photography is none other than the NNSA (National Nuclear Security Administration).

      Anyone else catch that? )

      http //commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File Ground_zero_aerial_view.png

    • Gordon Duff  June 30, 2014 at 10:46 am

      Brian…funny….and quite fictional

    • Brian  June 30, 2014 at 11:50 am

      I don’t have the technical background to make a good evaluation. I can’t get this link to work with Internet Explorer but supposedly it works with Google Chrome and Firefox

      ****http //webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache kifY3WVWKegJ ammtiac.alionscience.com/pdf/AMPQ6_1.pdf+Amptiac+Quarterly+nanotechnology&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a

      I remember the old days when Bollyn offered to send you a free copy of his 911 book, I realize he made the initial accusation and he shouldn’t have made it. Well, perhaps in the future you guys will exchange emails with the closing salutation tickles and pinches. Oh well.

    • Don Fox  June 30, 2014 at 2:01 pm

      Brian,

      1,500 meters per second is still woefully inadequate to explain what happened on 9/11. To explode steel you need 6,100 m/s and concrete 3,200 m/s. The Towers didn’t just explode. 1/3 of those buildings was completely vaporized. 1,100 people were vaporized. Far more were blown into tiny 1 inch chunks.

      Nanothermite cannot account for barium, strontium, uranium, thorium, arsenic, cerium, yttrium, lanthanum and chromium in the dust samples.

      9/11 was a nuclear event. Time to put gatekeepers like Bollyn and Jones in the rear view mirror.

  6. John Kirby  June 30, 2014 at 7:36 am

    IT WAS THE CANADIANS! AGRESSIVE, FANATICAL BASTARDS!

  7. Martin Maloney  June 30, 2014 at 4:50 am

    Prosecutor; Your honor, we will prove that Israel, using nanothermite, brought down the Twin Towers.

    // witnesses called, examined and cross-examined //

    Defense attorney; Your honor, the prosecution has been unable to prove that nanothermite even exists. If it doesn’t even exist, then Israel couldn’t have used it to bring down the Twin Towers. In short, the prosecution has not presented a prima facie case.

    Judge; Case dismissed.

    That is why the HOW matters.

    • Don Fox  June 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm

      Exactly!

      You get the same gatekeeping runaround from Bollyn and Jones as you do Judy Wood. They are all a bunch of time wasters.

  8. stephanaugust  June 30, 2014 at 1:16 am

    Thanks.

  9. Gus  June 30, 2014 at 12:18 am

    Two of the most obvious facts about the 9/11 massacres, as shown by the mainstream TV, are aluminum planes dissolving into steel buildings without losing momentum and that massive steel and concrete structures just turn into dust whilst still standing.
    A third, not covered by the mainstream, is the huge number of people dying and effected by radiation who were around the vicinity of this terrible event
    Surely we must suspect that all was not well… at least!…… Gus

  10. carsondyal  June 29, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    This article and its commentary has just about broken my back. I’ve given a lot of time, energy, money and artistry to getting the truth about 9/11 out there since 2003, but this page is a prime example of why the American public was more ready to go after the 9/11 perpetrators ten years ago than they are now. The 9/11 Truth Movement is fatally bogged down in name-calling, and people with egos the size of Montana strut and preen to get attention for themselves, argue over barely significant details, yet never get to the bottom of exposing, arresting and bringing to justice those responsible.

    I guess all one needs to do to be accused of being a Zionist shill and disinfo agent is to not agree 100% with the accuser’s position. What moronic, counterproductive bullshit. I’m tired of all of you. What have you accomplished in nearly thirteen years? You’re still arguing about how the towers were brought down instead of planning how to nail the murderers. Whenever I’ve talked to people about DOING something instead of yakking about it, their eyes glaze over. Let’s see some freakin’ action for a change.

    • Terry McKibbin  June 30, 2014 at 9:18 pm

      Agreed to large degree. It is much better to say we don’t know all of the details and we don’t need to know all of the details to launch an investigation that would lead to arrests and prosecutions once the facts are gathered. Still, those whom go after individuals such as Bollyn must have an agenda to break apart the effort to expose the perpetrators. Bollyn is one of the few who have named names and offered much insight into the organizations that were participants. These nuke guys have done nothing of the sort. They are simply attempting to divide the supporters of truth seeking and divert attention from the perpetrators by belittling those whom expose the most likely criminals.

      There are better movements taking shape that can possibly bring suit against certain players. We need many lawsuits coming from the county level to start the legal proceedings that can then get the public involved in the revelations on a larger scale. Until then, these disingenuous arguments play a key role in obfuscation and deflection to tire people like you into frustration and a sense of powerlessness. It is important to know this game and to continue supporting people like Chris Bollyn. He isn’t perfect, but he’s done more to expose the perpetrators than all of these VT folks put together, in my opinion.

    • Don Fox  July 1, 2014 at 2:38 am

      Bollyn has done tremendous harm to 9/11 Truth by promoting a false theory (nanothermite). Sadly a lot people have fallen for his BS. He’s right up there with Judy Wood and Steve Jones in the gatekeeping department as far as I’m concerned.

      You can’t be a truth seeker if you are promoting a lie. Thermite is a welding material. It’s not explosive and it can’t explain what happened at Ground Zero.

      Bollyn attacks people that bring forth accurate information on 9/11. Bollyn is no hero. He’s a fraud and a shill and deserves to be exposed as such.

  11. Terry McKibbin  June 29, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    Without mention of the actual isotopes of the elements that are named in this article, the author reveals his total ignorance of nuclear chemistry. The elements named are normal components in building materials (e.g., strontium as part of the calcium in drywall). Fission and fusion have radioactive isotopes that could be measured at the site to this day. Without nuclear measurements (other than tritium, which is not a reason to conclude nuclear explosion) this paper/explanation is anything but scientific.

    The remaining criticisms of Christopher Bollyn are a personal attack on the man, not arational refutations of his message that he has brought to the world.

    This article may fool the uninformed, uneducated. For them, I only as that more study of nuclear energy will help you to see the foolishness of this article.

    I have been a radiochemist for the Department of Energy for many years. I know some things about the topic.

    • Don Fox  June 29, 2014 at 7:54 pm

      Nice try Terry. No building is built with barium at 3,670 ppm and strontium at 3,130 ppm. It couldn’t be built as all of the construction workers would get sick. Over 14 sample locations the Coefficient of Correlation between the concentration of Barium and Strontium at the outdoor and indoor sampling locations is 0.99. That’s nearly perfect Terry. Lack of isotopic data from USGS does not mean lack of evidence for nuclear fission.

      Yttrium is also a very rare element and should not be present in dust from a collapsed office building. Yttrium is the next decay element after Strontium.

      Why is zinc at 2,990 ppm in one of the samples? Copper is decaying into zinc but that only explains some of the zinc. There is a very strong linear relationship between Barium and Zinc found at the World Trade Center. This may indicate that a closely related nuclear sub-process gave rise to them, which produced 3 times as much Zinc as Barium by weight. That process is Ternary Fission.

      The only foolishness here is those that promote a non-existent compound such as nanothermite as being responsible for the destruction of the WTC buildings. Where is that nanothermite factory Terry?

      Bollyn, Jones and Gage have derailed 9/11 Truth for long enough now. We’re on to you guys and you’ve all been exposed as frauds. Thanks for playing.

    • Gordon Duff  June 30, 2014 at 10:49 am

      Terry…Bollyn started it. 2nd, we have not only nuclear weapons designers and engineers at VT but senior nuclear weapons officers as well…
      collectively, we have 200 years of senior level expertise at the DOE, IAEA, Sandia and Livermore and DOD at VT.

  12. mikeward991  June 29, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    Nice work. Substantiation is often measured by the level of vitriol an argument incites.

  13. Paul James  June 29, 2014 at 11:40 am

    What about the 500+ reports of secondary explosions in the ‘Twins’ before they imploded? Was the nukie just burping before detonation?

    Rich Banaciski — Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
    … and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.

    Brian Becker — Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 28]
    The collapse hadn’t begun, but it was not a fire any more up there. It was like — it was like that — like smoke explosion on a tremendous scale going on up there.

    Greg Brady — E.M.T. (E.M.S.) [Battalion 6]
    We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was speaking again. We heard — I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1 World Trade Center.

    http //911review.com/coverup/oralhistories.html

    • Gordon Duff  June 30, 2014 at 10:50 am

      The reports we published cited those explosions as an important part of the demolition. I agree.

  14. Yehuda_Abraham  June 29, 2014 at 11:30 am

    I’m going to address this to Don Fox in light of one his statements below. Winter Gardens is certainly evidence of the explosive nature of the collapse. And you have done yeoman’s work in outlining all the other reasons why the bulk of the destruction of WTC complex was a nuclear event.

    However, this does not mean that other types of weapons, (including DEWS and nanothermite) are excluded, for the following reasons;

    1) Is Niels Harret a shill? He would have to be, if what you and Gordon claim about nanothermite is true. On the one hand, I have a professor of nano technology telling me it exists, and on the other I have you and Gordon telling me it doesn’t. I have no expertise in this area, but I am assuming the chemistry to support these claims is sound. Or at the least Harret’s paper stands un-refuted.
    2) The 14 survivors of Stairwell B–this is not consistent with a nuclear event, and certainly not with Dimitri’s claims of nukes in the basement. (I realize his position is not your position)
    3) The toasted cars around 90o corners out of the pathway of radiation. Some of these cars can be observed bursting into flames well after the towers had turned into dust, some distance away and with undamaged structures between the cars and the towers.
    4) The people whose skin was “catching fire” long before the explosive event.
    5) The fact that trees and paper did not catch fire when cars did.

    • Yehuda_Abraham  June 29, 2014 at 11:33 am

      6) The fact that massive amounts of paper was being expelled from the buildings prior to the explosicve event, indicating that the steel filing cabinets in the building had lost their integrity prior to detonation.

      There were other items I posted that got lost in VT’s 1500 letter filter. But I would like to ask you to consider being open to other possibilities, as a nuclear event cannot explain all of the anomalies described above.

    • Don Fox  June 29, 2014 at 2:41 pm

      Just to clarify my theory for the destruction of the Twin Towers above ground mini-nukes were detonated in the core columns and conventional explosives such as RDX were used on the outer parts of the buildings. Below ground some bigger nukes (maybe in the 2-4 kiloton range not 150 kiloton though) took out the foundations of the Towers. Those underground nukes are what heated up acres of land for months.

      Mini-nukes explain the toasted cars perfectly. See our Mystery Solved article from last year for a full break down.

    • Yehuda_Abraham  June 29, 2014 at 4:30 pm

      Your explanation about RDX in the lower floors and nukes above certainly mirrors the observable evidence, and I thank you for that.

      But with all respect, this still does not fit the observable evidence of several cars lighting on fire after the detonation, with a building between the WTC complex and the parking lot. Nor does this explanation square with the events that occurred prior to the detonation of the nukes.

      Again, I’m not trying to bust your……. here, but I am pointing out that it would be better to be open minded to the idea that some other technology was used for the 911 hoax, in addition to the primary cause of nukes.

      Gordon Duff has the best point when he states that a known technology has a better chance of waking people up than fairly dust DEWS or Nanothermite. But that is a practical matter, rather than what we are discussing at this moment. Which is that it is better to remain open to possibilities other than nukes.

    • Yehuda_Abraham  June 29, 2014 at 4:35 pm

      Oops, I replied before I read thoroughly, or understood thoroughly.

      Don, with respect, I’m having a hard time squaring the idea that there were any underground nukes with the 14 survivors in Stairwell B.

      It is certain that there were heat signatures for months after the WTC complex was destroyed. This was reported in even the brain dead media. But if nukes were in the basement, how on earth did these 14 people survive, and walk out into clear sunlight after the dust settled?

      This does not make sense if they were located anywhere near a nuke.

    • Don Fox  June 29, 2014 at 7:55 pm

      The nukes were deep underground. They got very lucky.

    • stephanaugust  June 30, 2014 at 1:23 am

      Why only toasted cars and no toasted lamp posts, fences, or a toasted FDR drive (the steel thing under which a lot of toasted cars were photographed)?

    • Yehuda_Abraham  June 30, 2014 at 7:38 am

      That’s a good question Stephen and I certainly don’t have an answer for that.

      I wonder if it related to Iron? The steel in cars did not melt, but the engines caught fire and vanished.

      If whatever happened on 911 was that material specific, this would also make an argument that nukes were not the only thing going on.

    • stephanaugust  July 1, 2014 at 1:38 am

      We can divide aluminium and iron (but I think it does not matter because I am sure that neither aluminium nor iron are nuke resistant), and divide mobile things (cars), and immobile things (lamp posts, fences, window frames, doors, etc.).

      I wonder if they were able to decorate the WTC with fake Boeing 767s, if they also could have decorated it with junk cars?

  15. Simpsons Donkey  June 29, 2014 at 11:28 am

    This is a fine piece of writing, a lesson to some authors here. Congratulations. And kudos to all those who had the stones to call it as they saw it. I for one would need to swallow hard, even with the knowledge they had, to get up and sday, “Hey folks, 9-11 was a nuke.” I believe you are right. I hope we are some steps closer to collaring the perps. They should swing in the Void.

  16. stephanaugust  June 29, 2014 at 11:13 am

    The white outfits look real. The yellow outfits with duct tape look Hollywood style, sponsored by Lowe’s.

    • stephanaugust  June 30, 2014 at 1:28 am

      What I wanted to hint at is that professional NBC emergency workers would not use duct tape or crates. Their equipment is professional, and probably tighter than an Apollo suit.

  17. wolf  June 29, 2014 at 10:07 am

    I used to have a high regard for Bollyn myself but then I read the info at ;
    ****http //www.takeourworldback.com/short/bollyn.htm

    He “married an Israeli military intelligence officer in an arrangement that provided her with US citizenship in 1983, when she wanted to live in Santa Monica within three miles of the Rand Corporation, within a year of Israel lobbyist Steven J. Rosen having had secret industrial security clearance to CIA contracts at the Rand Corporation, and thereby probably at a time when other agents of Israel had access to classified material there or were attempting to gain access.”

    His current wife is also believed to be a Jewess. (Kaskel)

    Who knows…his inculcation could have started much earlier in life;
    “He is the son of a woman who worked as governess for the Farish family and took care of the young William S. Farish III, a Pilgrims Society member and friend of the Bush family and the British royal family with a host of exotic intelligence contacts.”

    And the whole arrest thing on his front lawn etc seems to have been orchestrated by him intentionally, perhaps to lend a certain air of credibility to his audience.

    • wolf  June 29, 2014 at 10:09 am

      And anyone familiar with John Perkins’ (the ‘economic hit man’) account of how he was groomed and trained very early in his NSA career by a very sexy and glamorous older woman called ‘Claudine’ who, according to Perkins; “gave him all that he dreamt of” (sexually, etc.) can also connect a few dots from the following info from Bollyn’s bio;

      “After graduating from high school, Christopher traveled extensively in Europe and the Middle East. In Norway, he lived with an ‘erudite Swedish countess’ and studied Middle Eastern history and Semitic languages at the University of Oslo.”

      Fresh from high school in the Midwest to shacking up with an ‘erudite Swedish countess’? hmmm….

    • wolf  June 29, 2014 at 4:49 pm

      There seem to be ample references and links to substantiate these claims in the article such as;

      “And in an interview with David Duke at ***http //www.davidduke.com/mp3/dukeradio24april05.mp3, Bollyn says (27 57) he had personal relationships with a couple of Israeli girls, one that lasted a while. He says she went into military intelligence and she was based in Herzliya. Listen from 38 10, which leads to Bollyn stating that he married the Israeli woman in Puerto Rico. Or click (here…gives link) to listen to or download a three-minute compilation clip of his statements on his first wife, including an admission that it was a “marriage of convenience”.

      An article on Chris Bollyn in the February 6, 2001 (Chicago) Daily Herald article confirms that his first wife, Bosmat Merimsky, was Jewish. They married in Puerto Rico in 1983, and divorced a couple of years later.”

  18. etominusipi  June 29, 2014 at 10:05 am

    while it is relevant to investigate causes, and to continually check the motivations of the well-known figures, there is something unserious about all these shenanigans. the position is this

    1. the towers were demolished (especially WT7), and the Pentagon was missiled plus
    2. no-one was censured
    3. a bogus investigation was (reluctantly) conducted
    4. this ‘investigation’ issued a bogus report
    5. the MSM throughout the axis-of-evil (or “western”) nations has lied for a decade and a half.

    these are crimes enough. time to make arrests and begin sweating some of the perps and collaborators. a more detailed truth will then emerge, over the course of the hearings.

    amateur detectives with ego-centric attachments to pet theories are counter-productive. it is time to cool down the speculation, to issue a consensus report on the commission of 9/11, and to start some class action legal proceedings. get the ball rolling. if the Feds won’t do it, then, albeit reluctantly, recourse must be had to alternative procedures. there is not an indefinite window of opportunity.

  19. Don Fox  June 29, 2014 at 9:46 am

    I’ve always said the Winter Garden is where the DEW and nanothermite theories go to die. The only weapons that have enough energy to explain what happened at Ground Zero are nuclear. The other “theories” are like the title says – pure hokum. Any “researcher” who attacks proponents of the nuclear demolition theory is highly suspect to say the least.

  20. urbanb  June 29, 2014 at 9:22 am

    Think Chris is real,
    he has described how he lived on kibbutz after falling in love with israeli and then suddenly “saw through” the system and its lies, and that’s would then be his ground for present “angle” and understanding of world.
    believe him…

    • Gordon Duff  June 30, 2014 at 10:57 am

      I don’t blame Israel for 9/11 in a primary way. We now have hard intel, professional analysis, access to IAEA files, DOD and DOJ files and French and Russian intelligence.
      The entire story is much bigger than 9/11. I will say this again 9/11 was a demonstration, nuclear blackmail.
      We have nukes all over America. They are elsewhere as well. Yes, Israel or specific fanatics, many of whom are Israeli, are behind this.
      Aiding them are the Bush family, so many other names and the media, in particular, the phony “alternative media” which has suddenly crashed itself over to the totalitarian right.
      The enemy is and always will be the powerful pseudo elites, the secret societies that control how the ignorant and unbalanced deal with equally pseudo-reality.
      The more I learn, the more I learn how few “we” really are.
      When “number 3” is cleansed..and this is what it is all about…perhaps it won’t be that big a loss.

  21. Don Fox  June 29, 2014 at 8:30 am

    Who the hell is Christopher Bollyn? Just another guy that’s lied about 9/11. If you want to be in the 9/11 Half Truth Movement then by all means get Bollyn’s book.

    • Gordon Duff  June 30, 2014 at 11:03 am

      Bollyn sent me an autographed copy. It is well written. Some of it is wrong. Bollyn could have fixed that and written another book.
      Instead, he has “gone over the edge.”
      Frankly, few amateurs have staying power. He isn’t the first one to drift into the darkness and won’t be the last.

  22. Paul James  June 29, 2014 at 8:02 am

    All this bickering back and forth about “My theory is true, yours is bunk” must be making the 9/11 mastermind, Israel and her WH lackey’s snicker and laugh so hard, tears are streaming down their faces.

    We need to hang together or we’ll most certainly hang separately.

    • Simpsons Donkey  June 29, 2014 at 11:22 am

      Only one thing matters fierce dedication and focus on the EVIDENCE. Mistakes, red herrings, false leads must simply be cast aside, and forgotten – no sentimentality must get in the way. Neither must tender egos get in the way. The only common thing among truthers is their determination to be analytical, and to accept the EVIDENCE, wherever it leads. If that sometimes leads to dissension, so be it.
      All that is important is to respect, and avenge, and obtain justice for those who perished and those who lost loved ones.
      That is my belief.

    • ani  June 30, 2014 at 1:38 am

      Kudos to You Simpsons Donkey, for standing up for Your Belief.
      You are an Inspiration

      In Spire

      To breathe In

      the In-Dwelling

      Spirit

      We ALL have

      such

      and are

      Inter-Connected.

  23. brubank-guy  June 29, 2014 at 7:54 am

    Ian Greenhalgh aptly comments above “The way gatekeeping works is you give out 90% good info then poison the well with 10% bad info.” Precisely the technique of CIA’s Wikipedia described in EU police dossiers, Wiki facing EU prosecutors for fundraising fraud, posing as ‘charity’ when it is CIA. EU police files describe how Wikipedia crushes truth, being both Level 2 (Wiki itself) and Level 3 (Wikipedia clone copies) of CIA-Google’s 5 levels of internet content control. (1 – Google, 4 – corp media 5 – fake alternative media). EU prosecutor file on the CIA-Wikipedia fraud (might need to insert colon to make link)
    http //homment.com/FB3PjBQ2DF

  24. john simpson  June 29, 2014 at 6:32 am

    This is pysops turned up to 11 to get the good old knee jerk reaction. Yes anyone who has looked at this can fully understand that the towers could well have been nuked, I only have standard dems training from British army Royal Engineers so not an expert. However the constant Israel did this, Israel did that shiz is just all a bit to leading, maybe some personal from a certain location/agency were shipped various tech to plant according to a schedule, but it doesn’t take into consideration the bigger picture. Which is why were Israel allowed to do this demolition job? As the way I see it, the scapegoat got gassed 60 odd years ago and we and have learnt nothing from it and are still repeating the same cycle over and over again.

    Time to move on to the next level……

    peace x

  25. Gordon Duff  June 29, 2014 at 6:03 am

    you know, I was attacked once. they are still looking for them…and are unlikely to find them, not without ground radar

    not entirely kidding…long story

  26. Paul James  June 29, 2014 at 3:30 am

    BTW, one more thought

    Dirt was also hauled away from the Pentagon post-9/11. Did they also use a nuke there?

    • Don Fox  June 29, 2014 at 1:04 pm

      Yes the Pentagon was nuked as well. Very few people will touch that one! There are toasted cars next to the Pentagon ala New York and cement was flowing like lava much the same as it was in WTC6.

      I’ve got a blog post on this http //wp.me/p1jGyi-cL

  27. Paul James  June 29, 2014 at 3:29 am

    “Nanoenergetic thermite materials release energy much faster than conventional energetic materials and have various potential military applications, such as rocket propellants, aircraft fuel and explosives. They are likely to become the next-generation explosive materials, as they enable flexibility in energy density and power release through control of particle size distribution, stoichiometry and choice of fuel and oxidizer….”

    “However, we find that thermite has in fact been used to demolish steel structures in the past. For example, Popular Mechanics itself documents that thermite was used in the demolition of structures such as the Skyride Tower in Chicago and the dome of the German Reichstag. Furthermore, experiments conducted by civil engineer Jonathan Cole have shown that ordinary thermate can be used to effectively cut through steel columns. And as described earlier, the effectiveness of nanothermite is much higher than that of ordinary thermate.”

    http //www.ae911truth.org/news-section/41-articles/646-faq-8-what-is-nanothermite-could-it-have-been-used-to-demolish-the-wtc-skyscrapers.html

    • Gordon Duff  June 29, 2014 at 6:11 am

      …people can write anything, this is simply false. I did love the backyard experiment..which, more or less, proves the “143,000 ton” hypothesis.
      This one is simple, we know where the nuclear weapons were made, where they were stolen from, we have a witness, we have “means, motive and opportunity.”
      We know nuclear weapons exist, we have everything required for a criminal case including a coverup with murders and arrests.
      Then, what we don’t have on the other side is some place nanothermite was ever made. No one has seen it. No factory exists. No one shipped it. No one planted it. No one owns the imaginary factory. In fact, there is nothing but an endless line of empty conjecture, a non-existent material, never made, never transported, never seen.
      The first thing that “they” should have offered us is proof a factory exists. Who works there? Who cleans the floors?
      WE busted the WMD labs in Tbilisi because we had a virtual army of employees go to Jeffrey Silverman, a man who really “risks it all.”
      Russia Today sent a film team for a tour…and proved Silverman right.
      Nanothermite was a “poisoned gift” from Israel. It was tied by Bollyn and others “to Israel” as it, though its idiocy alone, keeps them safe. Shame.

    • jglassel.  June 29, 2014 at 7:36 am

      Gordon, thanks for the clarification on the duplicate 777.

      What is the possibility of a class action civil suit against the 911 perps? Hopefully, the military has a handle on things, now and things will be settled before a civil suit could get to trial, however?

      About 100,000,000 (33% of Americans) are not accepting of the Official Cover Story and each contributed $10 toward legal fees?

      Do you know of a law firm that would take the case?

    • mpennery  June 30, 2014 at 5:38 am

      Amen. This is what I always think. I’d write that check and more right now. Any lawyers around here?

      Matt

  28. Paul James  June 29, 2014 at 3:27 am

    Interesting post, but unless you were one of the original plotters and perps that pulled off the 9/11 Inside Job, you don’t know how those buildings were dropped or incinerated.

    Whose to say that nukes and nano-thermite won’t both used? They had to make sure those behemoths dropped into their own foundations, they couldn’t chance one toppling over into another Wall Street Temple of Mammon, hell, they couldn’t ‘ODIGO’ every building nearby.

    My theory is that the thermite was used to topple the buildings downward and a mini-nuke used to make sure they didn’t fall over, plus, it was excellent for destroying evidence.

    As far as the ‘molten rock’ holes at the WTC, it’s impossible to tell by watching the video of there are THREE separate and distinct holes at the site, since whoever filmed it kept cutting off the video before one could compare the first whole with others.

    I’ve read Bollyn’s “Solving 9/11” and he lays out a succinct and very thorough pathway to Israel doing 9/11, along with voluminous bibliography.

    So until we find out who really did 9/11, you’re theory is just like mine and Bollyn’s…UNPROVEN.

    • Gordon Duff  June 29, 2014 at 6:18 am

      Paul, I reiterate. There is no such thing as “nanothermite.” Try to buy some. Try to invest in a company that sells it to a government. I can invest in Sarin gas. I can invest in nuclear weapons. I can buy stock in Monsanto and, frankly, found I do own some of Monstanto, something I need to do something about.
      What I can’t do is, even as an investment banker and aerospace exec….find anyone who can help me make money in Nanothermite. We are approached by people selling weather control, energy weapons, even UFO engines. I can’t buy a gram of nanothermite. Now…think about trying to go to court and have “Israel” busted for destroying the WTC with this? If you haven’t heard seen this point made conclusively in dozens of articles already, you certainly won’t understand it now. You would make a great juror.

    • Denyse Pez  June 29, 2014 at 10:45 am

      Paul James
      I’m so very sorry for the many lost coworkers and friends and don’t blame u one bit for vowing to learn the truth. I agree with you on Bollyn never wavering on the fact he blamed Israel and its that one truth that most who try and lead us in another direction fail to do every single time..

    • Gordon Duff  June 30, 2014 at 11:01 am

      Paul
      Bollyn lays blame on Israel and does so with such childish stupidity as to guarantee they can do as they wish.
      Is he stupid like you or worse?
      I would ask you do decide but, then again, you aren’t very bright. I have more than a bit of experience with firefighters.
      BTW, I am a Medal of Valor winner. You?

  29. stephanaugust  June 29, 2014 at 2:24 am

    “NNSA (National Nuclear Security Administration) Radiological Assistance Program members of Brookhaven, NY RAP Region 1 performing full radiological decontamination before leaving ground zero.”

    So the three full contaminated guys to the right without any visible protection are dead today?

    • Gordon Duff  June 29, 2014 at 6:21 am

      Thousands are dead. I think you even commented on one of the articles about that? Do you wonder by VT aims only for intel professionals?
      You know, of late, they are actually dumber than anyone else. This is why we are running the Ft. Huachuca stories.

    • stephanaugust  June 29, 2014 at 9:26 am

      They can only be dumb because they have to represent the official opinion, the story which makes it into the text books. I heard about a former guy from the BND who dug deeper, causing problems, but still believes all the official accounts. (So I have no idea what caused the problems.) In addition, the BND people are behaving like a sect. I wonder what kind of work they are doing in the massive new complex in Berlin?

    • facebookprogrammer  June 30, 2014 at 10:41 am

      Gordon is right. Thousands died as a result. Those images above of the NNSA performing radiological decontamination along with the quotes were all researched and taken my from site http://www.GroundZeroNukes.com I’m the one who discovered many of those including downloading old newsletters and documents from the National Nuclear Security Administration’s archives.

      Not to mention, but if you study the Kurt Sonnenfeld videos, a lot of people don’t see what is so incriminating about them. If you know that 9/11 was a NUCLEAR event (thermonuclear in particular), then you start to catch on and see all the radiation air dosimeters being handed out, the NNSA personnel and many other nuclear-related items that normally wouldn’t catch the eye.

      Anyway, back to the point. Dr. Alison Geyh was one of the doctors that was there to monitor the air dosimeter readings. She died of leukemia at a very young age. Many of them did. Here is Alison.

      https //www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=552407078127647&set=a.552403548128000.1073741833.552030114832010&type=3&theater

    • Sic Semper Tyrannis  July 1, 2014 at 1:21 pm

      Khalezov has stated that John Walcott of NYPD saw FBI agents in full radiation Haz-mat gear at 9/11. I believe it was Khalezov who showed a picture of this proving it is not an allegation…

      http //www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMBlkYvCGuw

  30. Franklin Ryckaert  June 29, 2014 at 2:14 am

    The most important question about 9/11 is WHO did it, not HOW it was done. If someone is a shill for Israel he would try to accuse any other party than Israel, but that is not what Christopher Bollyn is doing. Quarrelling about nanothermite or nuclear bombs is of secondary importance. Choosing one of those possibilities may depend on one’s expertise and not on one’s wish to cover for Israel. I don’t see why the use of nanothermite would exculpate Israel in any way. All circumstantial evidence points in the direction of Israel and Bollyn has demonstrated that. Ergo Bollyn is NOT a shill, though perhaps ignorant about the intricacies of physics (and unwilling to admit that).

    • CoJonesGrandes  June 29, 2014 at 2:34 am

      Henry Makow goes after Zionist Jews hammer and tongs too…….
      Get my drift?

    • adil  June 29, 2014 at 2:37 pm

      if you believe in nano thermite then you are as good as sheep. not only vt but dimitri khalezov has good hour+ utube that explains nicely how nukes were used. but morons like you (are you really that lazy not to search beyond vt or other msm?) keep diverting topic. anybody who still believes that 9/11 was non nuke event is either shill, lazy or just plain moron. pick one for yourself.

  31. stephanaugust  June 29, 2014 at 1:52 am

    “Israel did it.”

    Under Ehud Barak or under Ariel Sharon giving orders?

  32. timwebb  June 29, 2014 at 1:18 am

    This article is pure misdirection. No basement-located nuclear weapon was used. Such a device would have produced a blinding flash and massive noise; debris would have been flung skywards; instead a soda-fountain effect was produced. Nuclear bombs would not have produced collapses starting where the planes ( allegedly ) entered the buildings. Tritium is produced during LENRs, of the kind originally studied, but then mysteriously disavowed, by S Jones. Barium and strontium are major constituents of chemtrailing. Intense heat was not found in the basements ; liquid water sprayed onto the debris remained liquid; only the firefighters’ steel toecaps degraded; their flesh was not cooked.
    The only data source anybody needs is the book “Where did the Towers go?” by Dr Judy Wood.
    I commend it to you all.

    • Simpsons Donkey  June 29, 2014 at 7:06 pm

      You overlook the well-witnessed explosions in the WTC basements around 30 minutes BEFORE the planes hit. Many accounts of this include the emptying of the underground car park, by a massive blast which evacuated a 20-ton machine press in a workshop. The victims of these (two?) blasts made it to the surface in darkness, just in time to see the planes. Also, the molten pool of metal under the crater stayed liquid for 3 months, during which no water could be poured onto it for danger of explosion. Even Bollyn’s affort was based on pictures of the ‘plume’ of toxic metallic vapor emanating from there. Chemtrail allusions are a red herring.
      Just saying…

  33. Martin Maloney  June 28, 2014 at 11:58 pm

    @ Steven Sokinas

    “Ian Greenhalgh, In regards to Davick (sic) Icke, why is he a gatekeeper? I thought the guy calls out the Queen…”

    You’re right — David Icke does call out the Queen…as a shape-shifting reptilian!

    David Icke goes through the motions of anti-Zionism, 9/11 Truther, etc., and then he tops it off with the shape-shifting reptilians. As a result, his listeners associate them, so they reject it all.

    That’s what is meant by “poisoning the well.”

  34. dalethorn  June 28, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    Wiring the buildings with thermite doesn’t sound like a 10-second demolition plan. Vaporizing the cores would help to bring the buildings down really quick. That’s nuclear.

  35. Brian  June 28, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    I couldn’t get you clip about Bollyn to work, but perhaps takeourworldback.com is correct Bollyn in 1983 married Bosmat Merimsky who supposedly worked for Israeli military intelligence then divorced two years later, then years later he writes one of the best books indicating Mossad did 911 for the Israeli government, and now you claim Bollyn is a Zionist shill. To me it makes no sense unless you think the Mossad used threats or blackmail to force him to become a Zionist shill after he published his book titled Solving 9-11 The Deception that Changed the World, but I don’t believe Bollyn is a Zionist shill.

    I don’t think Bollyn should of made his accusation about Gordon but I don’t think denying the use of nuclear weapons on 911 indicates Bollyn is a Zionist shill, I actually think he’s an American hero. I’ve been involved behind the scenes in the 911 truth movement since 2002 and I know Bollyn has been a major positive force for the 911 truth movement.

    If Bollyn was actually married to a Israeli military intelligence officer it may explain how he knows Israel does evil false flags to blame the Muslims. It may help explain why he suspected Israel did the evil 911 event.

    • Don Fox  June 28, 2014 at 7:33 pm

      We’ve got the audio clips fixed now – try it again.

      Bollyn states that Israel used nanothermite to blow up the WTC buildings – which as far as we can tell doesn’t even exist. If there is a factory out there producing nanothermite then show us where it is. Nanothermite = fairy dust.

      He denies nukes up and down and attacks those of us who explain to the public that indeed the WTC buildings were nuked. He is peddling disinfo. That makes him a Zionist shill in my book.

    • Brian  June 29, 2014 at 8:53 am

      Bollyn shouldn’t of claimed people who believe nuclear weapons were used to destroy the twin towers are disinformation people and I understand your strong reaction. Bollyn backs Steve Jones, who played a major role in indicating airplanes didn’t destroy the twin towers and Steve Jones has an impressive physics background, especially compared to most or all the people attacking him. Thus, Bollyn can back Steve Jones without being a Zionist shill. If Bollyn is a Zionist shill, based on his work exposing Israel as the 911 culprit, he’s the worst Zionist shill of all time.

      By the way Bollyn suggests the kidnapping of the three Israelis is an Israeli false flag.

    • Yehuda_Abraham  June 29, 2014 at 4:56 am

      Brian, I agree with you re Bollyn.

      One of the very distressing things about the 911 truth movement is how intractable many people become in their positions as to what caused the destruction of the buildings, and tend to attack others as shills. And then everything degenerates into internet hair pulling.

      Although Bollyn was incredibly childish (and wrong) to attack Gordon Duff, Bollyn is an extremely prominent voice in pointing out the “who” of the 911 attacks.

      As for Bollyn’s connections to Israel, most of my favorite books exposing the cabal who rules this earth are written by insiders. Bollyn’s connections to Israel hardly disqualify him as a researcher and author,and if fact likely give him an advantage in his work.

    • DaveE  June 29, 2014 at 6:23 am

      If he’s a shill he’s a really bad one. Just because he got stoned while playing hookey from high-school science class does not mean he’s deliberately peddling disinfo. Smart and well intended people have been known to say really stupid things and be too stubborn and egotistical to back down. Narcissist and egomaniac, yes, but it’s hard to see how all the work he’s done exposing Israel as the perp. makes him a shill.

    • Gordon Duff  June 29, 2014 at 6:29 am

      Brian
      Yes, we need to ask these questions. I have always liked Bollyn but then again, I have a pitbull for a pet.
      Here is how I see it. Bollyn is ether extremely foolish, attacking me as a way of defending his book, which financially isn’t worth it or..
      He is serving an agenda. As all the “pros” are behind a nuclear solution including the mass of docs and witness statements, the hard science. Russian intelligence, the IAEA, all have come forward.
      This should have given Bollyn a chance to write a new book. Instead, he goes “gatekeeper” when real evidence that could hang Israel shows up.
      I have the guy that matched the nuclear pits for the bombs used. He ties Israel to this and can name names.
      Bollyn has “the Mossad did it.”
      Bollyn is an investigative reporter yet the only Mossad ties are from Khalezov, who is a “nuke guy.”
      After the US fiasco in the Ukraine, Russia has been dumping intel to burn their enemies in the US. I am not the only person they went to. Rense got real docs, published them, but didn’t get all of it. Madsen had it as early as 2006 but got the story wrong…when so many others of us did also.
      WE put it all out there. The intel community, the military all have it now. They understand totally and have come onboard with us.
      We are now holding all the cards. Anyone who thinks they can go into a courtroom in the US and put “the Mossad” on trial is insane or a “shill.”
      Prove me wrong.

    • DaveE  June 29, 2014 at 8:57 am

      There’s no question VT “scooped” Bollyn and made him look foolish. That’s probably why he’s acting like an idiot, IMHO.

    • Don Fox  June 29, 2014 at 9:02 am

      Here is the bottom line on Bollyn he tells you that Israel/Mossad did 9/11 but they used a non-existent non-explosive to do it. Which is a roundabout way of saying that they didn’t actually do it. That’s a gatekeeper.

      Anyone that brings out real nuke info gets attacked by Bollyn. Again more gatekeeper tactics.

      He was married to an Israeli intel officer and is a 9/11 gatekeeper right up there with Judy Wood and Steve Jones. Why do so many people lionize this guy?

    • DaveE  June 29, 2014 at 11:45 am

      Fine line between a “gatekeeper” and a narcissist fool. Fact is he did Israel immeasurable harm. Judy Wood and Steve Jones NEVER make the Israel connection, as far as I know. Bollyn got the perps right and was not afraid to call them out, one of the first to do so. That’s not a zionist shill, more like someone who has an overly high opinion of himself.

      Also, the guy had the sense to divorce the Mossad agent, apparently. Maybe it just takes him a while to admit that he f^%$#d up.

      It took me a while to accept the nuke theory, too and I know something about nukes and science in general. Lots of people have a hard time accepting it, especially those who believe what they were “taught” in school. That’s just a fact of human nature. Some are a lot more analytical and scientifically literate than others. Some are a lot more humble than others. But not everyone is a “gatekeeper” who makes a mistake or shoots their mouth off over it.

      I have met a LOT of people who don’t buy the nuke theory (mostly out of ignorance) but know damn well Israel did it. The only difference between them and Bollyn is that Bollyn is a public speaker, so he gets branded with the “gatekeeper” label. That doesn’t make all the “thermite” crowd gatekeepers.

      The difference between Wood, Jones and Bollyn is important. Bollyn gets the verdict right, the others avoid the Israel question with all their mite. Big difference.

    • Don Fox  June 29, 2014 at 2:47 pm

      When Bollyn writes his hit piece on me and Ian are you still going to deny he’s a gatekeeper?

    • DaveE  June 29, 2014 at 4:14 pm

      If he accuses you of being “anti-Semites” then yes, I’ll admit I was wrong.

    • Rudy List  June 29, 2014 at 10:17 pm

      “the military all have it now”
      Aren’t they the guys that were in control of the fighter planes that weren’t scrambled until the action was mostly over and then flew here, there and elsewhere, but nowhere important?

      “They understand totally and have come onboard with us”
      You sure?

  36. CoJonesGrandes  June 28, 2014 at 4:46 pm

    Hey, don’t forget to say that Dr Steve Jones was also the cabal stooge who was used to destroy cold fusion research. That man is a menace to decent society.
    http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2435#2435

    • Ian Greenhalgh  June 28, 2014 at 5:20 pm

      That’s something I didn’t know, thanks for the tip.

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