Did Israel nuke America on 9/11?



Or did they just nanothermite us?


By Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today Editor, with Vince Giesbrecht

false-flag-Nuke-attack-on-Amercia1[Check out my radio debates on these topics, including the August 23rd show with AE911Truth board member Wayne Coste and aeronautics expert Dennis Cimino, and my April 28th slugfest with Jim Fetzer.]

Did Israel nuke America on 9/11?

Veterans Today Editors Gordon Duff and James Fetzer say “yes.” The political implications of proving this thesis would be hard to overestimate. It would mean America has not only been fighting the wrong enemy, but has actually been laying waste to the enemies of the real enemy. If these guys are right, we have been fighting against our own best allies – the very people who would help us strike back at the folks who nuked us.

Or nanothermited us.

Or whatever they did to pulverize three skyscrapers and murder almost 3,000 Americans in a single morning.

There are two issues here: “Israel did it” and “how they did it.”

Regarding issue #1: Israel and its US agents have been fingered as the main 9/11 perps by reliable researchers including Christopher Bollyn, Alan Sabrosky and Laurent Guyénot. (The cui bono issue by itself frames the Zionists as leading suspects – a suspicion I entertained, based on my Middle East Studies background, within minutes of hearing that the World Trade Center had been struck.) Bottom line: Once you learn who privatized and over-insured the condemned-for-asbestos World Trade Center right before 9/11, and who signed off on the September 2000 document calling for a “New Pearl Harbor,” the rest is just details.

So let us move on to the less important question of “how they did it” – specifically, how they demolished the three World Trade Center skyscrapers. Gordon Duff has a background in high-level covert non-proliferation work, while Jim Fetzer – a Philosophy of Science professor – bases his views on an analysis of various experts and researchers including Don Fox and Ed Ward. Both of my esteemed VT colleagues argue that mini-nukes were used to destroy the WTC Towers.

Here are some of Jim’s articles laying out that case:

Mystery Solved: The WTC was Nuked on 9/11

2 + 2 = Israel Nuked the WTC on 9/11

“Mini Neutron Bombs: A Major Piece of the 9/11 Puzzle” with Don Fox, Clare Kuehn, Jeff Prager, Jim Viken, Dr. Ed Ward and Dennis Cimino

“Busting 9/11 Myths: Nanothermite, Big Nukes and DEWs” with Don Fox

For his part, Gordon Duff is conducting “Nuclear Education” sessions and citing a once-secret DOE/IOIA report, recently released by the Russians, in articles like “Nuclear 9/11 Revealed.” (Note: While Gordon claims that Wayne Madsen was given a copy of this report by unnamed Russians, Wayne insists he has received no such report. Maybe he hit the delete key because he doesn’t read Russian?)

On the opposing side: Software engineer Jim Hoffman – considered by many to be an infamous deception-peddler and provocateur in the debate about what happened to the Pentagon on 9/11 – argues against the nuclear demolition hypothesis and smears Gordon Duff here. More pertinently, back in 2007, physics professor Steven Jones, a major figure in the 9/11 truth movement, published a letter entitled “Hard Evidence Repudiates the Hypothesis that Mini-Nukes Were Used on the WTC Towers.”

Since 2007 I have been challenging proponents of the nuclear demolition hypothesis, especially Jim Fetzer, to lay out their counter-case against Jones, and for nuclear demolition, in careful, understated, thoroughly-sourced, non-polemical scholarly fashion and submit it to the pro-Steven-Jones Journal of 9/11 Studies. If such an article were rejected for bogus reasons, the case for nuclear demolition would get an enormous boost. The gaping void where such an article should be may be the strongest argument against the nuclear demolition hypothesis.

But does it really matter whether we got nuked or nanothermited on 9/11?

The issue is potentially important in three ways:

1) Resolving the nukes-vs.-nanothermite dispute could have a bearing on how well the case for controlled demolition – both the who and the how – could stand up in court…whether the World Court, other international courts, the UN, US federal or state court, or the de facto courtroom of a congressional or other legally-mandated investigation.

2) It could also affect public opinion; the headline “Israel nuked US on 9/11” packs more of a visceral punch than “Israel nanothermited US on 9/11.” Also, elite public opinion is largely created by scientists, scholars, and other experts, whose views on the merits of the respective hypotheses will set the terms of the public debate; directing attention to a weak hypothesis will not help the 9/11 truth movement succeed in this arena.

3) If Gordon Duff is correct, and Israel has been terrorizing the US and the world with mini-nukes, proving the WTC was nuked on 9/11 could play a key role in neutralizing this much larger threat.

Then there are those who argue that some kind of Tesla-style technology was used on 9/11, and that revealing this fact might shred the free energy coverup and usher in a new era of abundance. For details on that, read Judy Wood’s book. And if you haven’t yet heard of the evidence that free energy/antigravity exists and is being covered up, read the free pdf of Nick Cook’s The Hunt for Zero Point.

So there you have it: Everything you need to get up to speed in the nanothermite-vs.-nukes-vs.-space-beams debate.

Now that that’s out of the way, let’s move on to today’s guest article. (Hey, if Steve Jones can publish a letter as an article, so can I.)


Some arguments against the mini-nuke hypothesis

from W. Giesbrecht, avid Truth Jihad Radio listener

Hi Kevin,

Great radio show on Aug. 23!

I really agreed with the boys on this show. No nukes involved; just conventional explosives. If some nuclear device was utilized, it would likely have been under building 6 -between the N. tower and building 7- where they FOUND the strange isotopes and for which there is no immediate rational explanation. That building seemed to be “holed” for no particular reason. And if you look carefully at videos of the N. tower coming down, you’ll see that the dust/debris envelope has shifted way off base and the standing spire -which would be in the center of the building because it was part of the core structure- is amazingly quite off to the right from the settling dust plume. It’s very peculiar. So possibly another (simultaneous) explosion occurred inside of building 6 -during the “collapse” of the north tower- which pushed the dust/debris envelope of the N. tower over to the south and east.

Nope, I think Fetzer is totally off-base with his mini-nuke theory. He’s thinking of brute force, strong enough to have pulverized everything but what he’s overlooking is that such a device(s) would also generate enormous heat, shockwaves and light plasma … which wasn’t present in the tower demolitions. Paper wasn’t even burned. I think Wayne Coste’s take is entirely correct: mini-nukes would have created the overwhelming crashes of 30 lightning strike thunders … about 10 times in a row.

But if you think about explosives being right inside of the concrete floor slabs … well then, the initial heat and light would be absorbed by shattering the concrete … and it would sound much like a conventional demolition where the explosive charges are embedded into concrete inside of drilled holes: more like ramset guns going off.

Now, I’ve mentioned this theory a number of times before to you and Fetzer and others … but I never seem to get any acknowledgement, be it positive or negative … so I’m not sure whether my emails even got through!~

The floor slabs were matrixed with rectangular duct work … to carry electrical cables and communication wires etc. This made it possible for tenants to renovate their space and relocate the electrical plugs and telephone jacks on the floor … to pretty well wherever they wanted them, give or take a few feet one way or the other. Only Christopher Bollyn has ever acknowledged my theory (by email) and he agreed immediately with me. In fact, he even supplied me with a drawing of the ductwork from WTC blueprints which he got from somewhere, (I know not where!).  Here’s what he sent me…


The tan coloured sections are the ducting. The lower runs rested right inside of pan channels the the other was laid on top, running at right angles to the lower ones. The rest is the floor concrete slab sitting in the corrugated floor pan.

So when technicians or electricians came into a renovation, they’d just get the plans, look at the location co-ordinates of the matrix intersections, measure carefully from the walls … drill down through some shallow concrete covering and bingo! … they’d be right into these intersections, from where they could push fish tape to the utility room (inside of the building core) … and then pull in new lines from the utility room and then … go “sideways” with their fish tape on the top duct …  to the location on the floor where they’d want to locate a cubicle or desk .. and bring it up out of the floor from a hole they’d drilled there.

Now, of course, MOST of this duct work would be empty because it was only there to allow utilities location almost anywhere on the floors, and tenants don’t change or renovate all that often over a span of thirty years.

So THIS DUCTWORK would provide a PERFECT opportunity for placing explosive material that would not only shatter concrete completely but also provide the driving expansion force to blow out the external walls. What the explosive was exactly, I don’t know but I suspect it was a mix of thermite and a nitrogen-based explosive like smokeles powder or fertilizer. With fertilizer, for example, you only need to have a very strong compression wave go through it to make it hot enough to decompose everywhere simultaneously … and then you get an incredible blast from it that would easily be faster than the speed of sound in concrete. (Fertilizer however, is hygroscopic -moisture absorbing- and so … some sort of modified version would have needed to be utilized which would stay dry).

The external walls, if you may recall, were made up of pseudo columns that were H sections bolted together. (What Judy Wood called “wheat checks.”)














Then you’ll notice that at each floor, there was a “band” of steel welded to the “wheat checks” which went all around the perimeter of the buildings. These bands provided the tight securing of the external walls so that they couldn’t bow outward.

The floors then ALSO provided a bit of rigidity to the bands, by being lightly bolted to the bands and to the core columns at the other end.











In order to blow out the external walls, these bands, welded to the external “wheat check” structure … would have needed to be cut on the corners and possibly in the middle as well. (You can see flashes of light in the videos, preceding the collapse, going down inside on both sides of the structure. These would have been corner cutting charges.)

So, a proper exploding powder injected into the floor ductwork and a blasting cap at the end of each duct … would have worked very much like an exploding gun barrel.

In fact, (I can’t find it now but), some tenants HAD complained, prior to Sept. 11 2001 that renovations going on above or below them seemed to be covering all the furniture with fine dust. Even though cleaning crews had been in during the night … the next morning, their desks and furniture were all covered in this fine dust! Sure … that would probably happen if they were blowing a fine dust into these electrical ducts. It would come out of the floor plugs etc. Otherwise, each floor was sealed from the floor above or below and NO DUST should ever get through from floor to floor, regardless of how much dust was generated above or below.


Now, you’ve probably noticed that after the alleged plane strikes (or at least the explosions, attributed to plane strikes) … the “fire”spread upward at a dramatic speed. It’s like, only a minute or two, after the “strikes” … the entire tops of the towers were already smoking heavily. This would be utterly impossible with real plane crashes and fires, since every floor was sealed from floors above … and automatic fire doors would close in order to contain the fire to the floor(s) of origin.

What they needed though, was TIME for disposing of iron, through melting.

The hat trusses were the first major “problem” because they had to be completely cut apart in order to assure complete demolition.

These hat trusses were HUGE … occupying about 30 feet of height and being concealed in the top 3 floors of each building. Thus, the top 3 stories were unused by any tenants and unoccupied and very handy to get into without being noticed by anyone … especially if all the doors were kept locked.

Below is a picture of the hat truss on the north tower.  It also supported the very tall and heavy vertical antenna.



The hat trusses were encased by the building’s square walls and roof, like this …



The “curved” members is what constituted the hat truss itself. The rectangular part is the core columns. (Left, at the top of right).

The hat trusses served to secure the core to the external walls in a very rigid manner, just like the foundation at the bottom of the towers. In summer, the external walls would expand from heat and lift up and the truss would “stretch” the core columns … and in winter, the core columns would expand more than the external walls and the hat truss would stretch the external walls upward. This is what rigidified the structure and assured that the floors would stay perfectly level at all times. (Otherwise the top floors would have gone off-level by several inches both ways, summer and winter).

So, EITHER the core columns or the external wall columns could support the building’s weight, all on their own … but with the hat truss missing, the structure would get pretty swayish.

Thus, if they severed ALL of the core columns at the alleged plane strike locations, the upper sections -including floors- would stay intact as long as the hat truss was still connected to the core columns. All the upper floors would then just HANG on the top core columns .. from the hat truss.

Once the hat truss was cut apart though, the top floors would all fall down, along with the dropping core columns.

The initial “fire” … was likely the hat trusses being cut apart by thermite cutting charges.

If you look at the Naudet bros. film, you’ll notice that almost instantaneously, there is an explosion coming out of the east wall at the hat truss area, some 20 floors ABOVE the supposed impact zone! This would be utterly impossible if a real plane had crashed into the structure.

They had to co-ordinate their explosions as best possible … with the alleged events … in order to keep people from getting too suspicious. So they had strategic explosions go off in the hat truss area at the same time as the supposed plane strike explosions.


Then we get to the problematic CORE COLUMNS. The cores were built like brick $hithouses and wouldn’t demolish easily.

These columns were BOXES and not I beams.



Unlike the external columns (which were plated and bolted at the bottom/tops of each “wheat check” section) … the internal core columns were WELDED together so that they constituted approximately 1000 ft. long tubes … from hat truss to the foundation.

So once again … a perfect opportunity for the scumbags to conceal their work INSIDE of the structure.  They could go up into the hat truss area any old time, pretty well -without being disturbed … and FILL the core columns with thermite. Now I don’t know if they would have done it that roughly or if they would have put wads of thermite down inside at strategic heights to burn at strategic time but … the bottom line is that they COULD have done it that way.

Once again then, they would need a certain amount of TIME for the thermite to melt out the core columns … before they could safely explode the floors: 45 minutes for the south tower … an hour and a half for the north tower?  Probably something went wrong with the north tower; maybe their fire went out and they had to send someone inside to light it again?!~

Now, here’s an interesting thing about the core columns …

They were encased with 2 layers of 3/4″ drywall … for fire protection. This was APART from the drywall of the core walls which separated the leased floor space from the central core area.

So each of these core columns had -essentially- a 1.5 inch thick “box” around them, made of drywall.

Once again, this would have been rather beneficial to the scumbags because these pseudo boxes would CONTAIN the molten metal of the core columns long enough to let them melt completely and then run out at the very bottom, 6 floors under ground level.

Some of the metal would spill out of course, where beams were attached to columns and -along with melted hat truss material- most of the top section molten metal would end up on the first juncture of the building -the utility/repair floor, also called “technical services,” which was just below the top Skylobby- somewhere around the 78th floor I believe, if I remember correctly. This is also the floor that helicopters were reporting to be entirely on fire, warning everyone to get out IMMEDIATELY. This was where the elevators for the top section STOPPED and there was nowhere for spilling molten iron to go, except onto that floor.


There’s no plausible explanation for a floor to be totally engulfed in “fire” -one floor BELOW the bottom of the plane strike- when there was no fire showing anywhere in the plane strike region itself … unless it was molten iron which was pooled at the technical services floor.

So … when we witnessed the “spire” still standing after the north tower had come down, it’s possible that all we saw was the drywall shell/casings of the core columns with just enough iron left inside of them to give them enough support to last for another 10 seconds or so … and then they collapsed into a cloud of dust and a hearty hi-ho silver, away. Just too weird how they just seemed to sink away.

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Now, Dennis Comino was absolutely right when he commented on the HOLE in the north tower being utterly incongruent with the initial pictures of the plane strike showing the “cutout” of the wings, the angles and all of that. Those pictures were fabricated, I’m sure. The on-going video footage showed a ROUND hole in the wall and not the outline of a plane having entered through the wall.

And as for the south tower “cutout” which Jim Fetzer talks about from time to time … I’m convinced that THAT ALSO was fabricated video footage.

Think about it …

ALL of the official video of both towers burning and collapsing was shot from somewhere in upper Manhatten … quite far north of the towers. That’s where there were tall building from which to capture an almost “parallel” view of the tops of the towers.

On the south side, there are no high buildings and very little land space.

C:DOCUME~1OwnerLOCALS~1Tempnsmail6CAnyone taking video from the south side would have had to aim up very steeply and wouldn’t be able to see any hole pattern in the wall. They had that problem worked out pretty good, it seems.~

So it’s highly probable that ANY video showing a plane striking the south tower -from the south side- is faked video.

WERE there planes involved? Probably, yes but only as decoys. They had the capability at that time already, to mask cars with a camera and LED lights … to make it look as if a car had disappeared on the street and so … they could have used the same technology to have large planes disappear from the sky at a last moment, before triggering explosives inside of the towers. I don’t think they even used missiles because they would have wanted absolute, TIGHT control over everything, time-wise. They may have EJECTED something from the south tower to coincide with an apparent plane strike, to make it look like plane parts flying out of the north wall … but it’s highly unlikely that a missile would have created a huge orange fireball while passing through the entire building, including going through part of the core structure.

ALL of the plane strike video -I’m now convinced- was artificially created and planted on youtubes. Not the actual tower burning and collapsing footage, mind you … just the plane strikes.

As Dennis mentioned too … the official footage shows the plane coming in from 2 entirely different angles!  The most familiar one has the plane coming in almost level from the west side and then in behind. Another video though … has the plane coming DOWN at a steep angle, coming almost directly due north!! There is just NO WAY I can reconcile both of those videos, no matter how hard I try.

There’s also a SHADOW problem which I haven’t quite been able to figure out yet …

By September 11, the sun should already be shining on the SOUTH side of the towers, fully illuminating the south faces of both towers. Yet, in most of the footage, the south side of the towers appears to be as much in shade as the north side. Was the official footage possibly shot in the middle of June?


Now, you’all were talking about the top sections of the buildings just sort of tipping and/but then sort of “straightening out” as they proceeded to fall and even … disappearing into a kind of “dust” in mid air.

I agree … the LOOK of it is rather deceptive.

I think what happened is that, as soon as the core section of the top structure let go from the hat trusses and dropped … the floors in the upper section were “lightly” exploded. The upper sections on both towers were thus … essentially disintegrate internally before they fell.

Even though the top (of the south tower) seemed to tip over toward the east … OTHER video (from Bill Biggart and Rick Siegal) show a huge section of the south tower top dropping down to the west side … and landing on top of the Marriot hotel (WTC 3). The top therefore, didn’t actually tip over; it SPLIT and dropped in at least two directions. (The top of the N. tower may also have split and dropped largely on building 6 to cause the big hole in it?)


So the top sections of both towers were apparently being blown apart in mid air, as they were falling.

Possibly, substantial explosive charges were placed into the core area at each technical service level -where the structures were most heavily reinforced for rigidity- to make SURE the core would come apart … but not in the top section of either building. We DID see the explosive area grow substantially, the lower down it went.

-Vince Giesbrecht






  1. I’m glad to see that Kevin is starting to entertain the Nuclear Demolition Theory of 9/11. However Vince is just completely out to lunch here. Filling the hat truss with thermite? That’s ridiculous. The Towers exploded and thermite is NOT an explosive.

    The destruction of the WTC buildings on 9/11 was a nuclear event. Let’s assume that the perps knew what method they used to destroy the Towers. They started a full radiological cleanup on the afternoon of 9/11. They had 120 dump trucks full of resin on the scene post haste. Khalezov has written extensively about this.

    Vince doesn’t address the USGS dust samples at all. Let’s look at just ONE of the many suspicious elements found in the dust thorium. Thorium should not be present in the dust of a collapsed office building.

    Thorium is formed from Uranium by alpha decay. An alpha particle is the same as a Helium nucleus, so this means we have one of the favored fission pathways Uranium fissioning into a Noble Gas and the balancing elements, in this case Helium and Thorium with subsequent decay of the Helium into Lithium.

    Yes Helium decays (beta minus) into Lithium. In beta minus decay, a neutron decays into a proton, an electron, and an anti-neutrino n Æ p + e – +.

  2. I don’t think any single theory fits all the facts. Some cops survived in a stairwell, so that rules out nukes. The central columns disintegrated, so that rules out thermite. That leaves the greatest source of energy as the kinetic energy of hundreds of thousands of tons of material falling from (an average height of) 600 feet, but I don’t see how that could have destroyed the massive central columns. To me the mysteries are the disappearance of the central columns of WTC 1&2 and the total collapse of WTC7.

    Apart from the collapse mechanism there too many strange facts about 911. Too many coincidences, most of them involving Jews. That’s not racist anti-semitism, it is just fact. The great shame nowadays is that we are not allowed to state facts, much less opinions.

  3. Congrats to dr.Barrett, I am sure presenting this issue to “intelligent” US community sometimes feels like Quijote galloping on Rosinante charging at windmills. The truth will prevail!

  4. The Crisis du Jour
    The Force du Jour

    The City-Culture in History
    City-State to Megalopolis to Parasitopolis to Necropolis

    Thirteen years on the Who, What, Where, How, and Why of 9/11 continues to define itself as a virtual Black Hole that keeps sucking mental and emotional energies into a devouring hyper-dimensional vortex.

    The ongoing cryptic deciphering of the engines of fire used in 9/11 feeds the Trans-American chicanery of national, international, and transnational interests.

    The Great Pyramid and related colossal structures of the ancient world continue to mysteriously captivate the human mind with the marvels of imagination and with the mysterious concerns of Who, What, Where, How, and Why.

    Archaeological mysteries of Ziggurat construction never seem to end. Hidden pyramids are still being uncovered around the world. The logistics involve economic transactions, eminent domain and speculative belief.

    The Tower Complex reaching to the Sky Gods may well be a dismal architectural-engineering and social failure from the beginning. The Step-Pyramid, the Altar of Sacrifice, re-presents Cannibalism; i.e., Human Extact; Soylent Green.

    The immediate removal and transport of scrap material from 9/11 for resale and recycle in foreign countries speaks to The Mega-Machine of a governmental pyramids of power.

    Babel; Tower-Babel; Psycho-Babel; Techno-Babel
    Naming and Defining implies Control Over

  5. LC— Here is the Link to the Interview!!! Pretty sure it was 3 years ago.

    http //www.veteranstoday.com/2011/02/21/dimitri-khalezov-gordon-duff-and-kevin-barrett-nuclear-terrorism/

  6. Of course…But really, we have to screen out these thermite sniffers…they’ve been proven wrong and still they go on….it’s like their calendar is stuck on 2005…

  7. Simpleton– I say Wrong!!! You say ” leaves only one power source – mini-nukes.”.
    What makes You so knowledgeable??
    Read Dimitri and see the Whole picture! 2013 New book. http //www.911-truth.net/9-11thology-third_truth_v4_full.zip

    • You’re not supplying a viable alternative to the mini-nuke hypothesis ( that’s already been proven anyway )….you’re just throwing your hands in the air and saying, “OMG, I didn’t see any Hiroshima “….You’re living back in 1945 in terms of nuclear technology and 2005 with all this thermite crap…Thermite didn’t do all that and that’s obvious to everyone..

  8. “They had the capability at that time already, to mask cars with a camera and LED lights … to make it look as if a car had disappeared on the street…”

    Wasn’t there a James Bond movie showing this?

  9. For a long time I have had an interest in the “deception” and many lies that are part of the standard curriculum of recent history. Stuff people call conspiracy theory.. We all know them, JFK, RFK, Tonkin, Lusitania, O Palme, USSLiberty, 9/11, 7/7, MC370 to name a few random high and low events where we are robbed on our history and robbed of the correct context to make decisions for the future.
    Anyway, when sometimes discussing with fiends, these 100rds of events and 1000nds of theories, only one theory results in instantaneous spontaneous laughter, of the LOL type, the 9/11 nuke theory…
    There is something people immediately find absurd in it. Something Monthy Pythonesque over it…
    As a current believer in the theory I need tons of careful pedagogy just to bring them back to senses…
    I’m not 100% sure why this is, but for this theory it is a factor that needs to be handled…

    • it is what we may call GZS (Ground Zero Syndrome). sufferers fall victim to a deranged chain of unconscious reasoning which goes something like “if it were really nukes they used, they would have called the site anything other than Ground Zero”. of course this would not fool those with a developed sense of chutzpah, but most of such brethren see other reasons for obfuscation. the sheeple, as usual, are dragooned by their atavistic longing to be led by their noses by leaders with atavistically long noses. Like Jack and Mrs Spratt the two groups are perfectly matched opposites. as it says in the Talmud, “everyone’s a winner. except the goyim, whom we may leave out of the reckoning”

    • When people have not read, but think they know everything— get some new friends!
      When You BELIEVE in a Theory, do you know what you are talking about?????
      Can you defend your Theory? Bringing someone to their senses requires you to show them some logical proof of why you Believe. Can you do that???
      Get them all to read Dimitri’s Book and Then you might get some intelligent discussion.

  10. Sir,

    Dr Barrett’s “witness” Mr. W. Giesbrecht, avid Truth Jihad Radio listener, is no doubt sincere in his opinions. this reader would have appreciated a little more about his background and the nature of his interest in these matters. if that information had been forthcoming i might have been happy to devote an hour of my time looking at his diagrams etc.

    in Steven Jones’ 2007 letter (http //www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf) cited by Dr Barrett, the incidence of tritium is mentioned. Jones refers to the following (2002) paper https //e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf

    the paper sports a “disclaimer” noting that This document was prepared as an account of work sponsored by an agency of the United States Government

    not sure what’s going on here. short of taking this article to be a symptom of stress-induced mental instability i’d guess that either Kevin has been affected by some hypnagogic craftily slipped into his tea by VT’s canny double-agent Michael Shrimpton, or possibly he is being set up with a plausible cover story before being sent into the field to do a little legwork in the AETruth community…

    • (ctd)

      i personally think that those of the Mormon faith should postpone involvement in complex issues concerning truth of testimonies until they have satisfactorily resolved the mystery of the metal plates used by The Angel Moroni to communicate “the Book of Mormon”) to their prophet Joseph Smith (u.w.n.b.p.). at this distance in time, the signatures of eight respectable citizens who claim to have been shown the plates simply do not suffice to perform the evidential task demanded of them. it is quite likely that the whole Utah experiment was constructed on the basis of an elaborate hoax, like 911, but without the need for detonation of thermonuclear devices.

      in any case such devices would have been difficult to obtain in early 19th-century America, even for well-connected members of the freemasonic fraternity.

      yours sincerely,

      etc., etc.

    • Oh yeah, it’s a phoney anti-Catholic, masonic, Jew-serving religion created to facilitate the acquisition of teenage girls…but that’s beside the point…Talmudia mini-nuked the Towers on 9-11..

  11. to LC— Thank You for the good interview with Steve Johnson!
    In that interview a Very Good website was shown that EVERYONE interested in 911 should see
    Instead of silly analysis from this guy Vince, one can easily get educated in Nuclear Demolition–
    which got it’s roots in the 1950s. The common sense and easy to read information will put one way
    up the ladder of understanding.

  12. LC– Thank you for that short interview by Steve Johnson! A really good website was shown in
    that interview http://www.nuclear-demolition.com
    Instead of reading the silly analysis by this guy Vince and “promoted” by Kevin Barrett,
    read how the Towers were destroyed and why mini-nukes weren’t possible!!
    This site has the Basic Nuclear Education that most people haven’t learned and so they come up with
    ridiculous conclusions and hyperbole based on their own weak ideas.

  13. Stop spreading false-facts! It was nanothermate explosives! Nanothermate particles were found in all 3 sites! Nuclear would give off radiation a dead give away that the collapse was not due to fire! Nuclear would have been too easy to detect. The nanothermate took HIGH science and serious physics to find on a nanoscale. Read Steven E. Jones report whose information was supported by top scientists in Europe because the cowards here would too scared to do anything.

  14. Not “nuclear devices” nanothermate explosives; nano particles of thermite were found in all 3 sites dust. Nuclear explosive would have radiation which would have been easily detected, a dead give away it ain’t no plans nor fire had destroyed the Towers. Nanothermate particles took serious science to discover, look up Steven E. Jones, physicist report on this matter. Don’t spread false-truths! Nuclear with its radiation would be a dead give away–this is prima facie fact and common sense why it was not nuclear!

    The WTC were completely shut down on weekends for several months–Bush’s other brother was head of security!! Dah! People in the area witnessed trucks and trucks–“a convoy of trucks were constantly going to and fro the WTC” in that period. The explosive were brought in during the shut down time and rigged. NYC police arrested the “dancing Jews” filming and jumping up and down all happy when the plane hit but were ‘ordered’ to be let go! Netanyahu said, “911 was good for ISrael” in a televised U.S. visit comment to some press. You can find it in utube. So some of your information are not correct BUT your heart and true American spirit is in the right place. We need to force Congress to open their independent investigation and we need to vote out anyone not supporting such a bill! We need to vote everyone in Congress out, especially those who suck up to the ISraeli lobbyists! They work for US, not ISisrael!

    • Nanothermite doesn’t even exist…Your “super thermite” couldn’t have done what we saw that day…doesn’t account for the sea of boiling steel that was there mos. afterward, the multiple myeloma cancers that are off the charts…the pulverization of so much bldg. into dust….etc…Stop sniffing nanothermite…who makes it btw? Mini-nukes have been proven and some of us are still living back in 2007…What gives?

    • You haven’t a clue. There was a clear nuclear isotope fingerprint traceable to nukes sold by Bush1 to the Israelis (350 W-54 pitts). Thermite or thermate can cut steel but is too low velocity to serve as a high explosive. That is a well established fact. We have leaked Russian and French intel docs, firsthand reports from the IEAE, Sandia Labs personnel who know, and a redacted copy of the Sandia Labs investigation of 911 which clearly states it was a nuclear event.

    • “…nukes sold by Bush1 to the Israelis…”

      The word sold is interesting. What was the price, and who got paid (presumably kickbacks to the Bush Crime Family, and not to the USG)?

      Follow the money – someone needs to lean on the Swiss and other nations who assist in money laundering through private, numbered bank accounts.

  15. HEY VT, you need to put the VT comments above the social media comments! This is your site, your VT comments written by people who do not want to encourage nor be trapped by the social-media-working-for-
    unConstitutional gov’t should take first billing–NOT Facebook comments. Come on all VT log-in posters support this reasoning. I am suspicious when Facebook, a known operative of the NSA, CIA, etc., takes first billing above VT comments!

    Here’s some very good questions I’ve seen
    “How could three of the world’s strongest buildings all total collapsed under 11 seconds?”
    “If 911 was a surprise, why was Building 7 rigged with explosives for Silverstein to give the “pull” order to detonate?”
    “Why did Silverstein buy two identical anti-air-plane-attacks insurance for 1 and 2 week before the attack?”
    “Why did the Port Authority refund Silverstein his original lease purchase amount and recently wanted to give him billions in loans because people are not renting office in that “Freedom to be Murder” Tower? Why is the Port Authority so gun-hoho in given Silverstein everything he wants? Could it be Silverstein would start talking if they don’t buy him out?–Just like his loose lips on the PBS interview where he said he gave the order to “pull” Building 7!
    “Why did Netanyahu say ‘911 was good for ISrael’?”

  16. I take Gordon, you have a specific or had a specific idea about the laying out of this data.

    We have 40years of government ops and false flags and covering the trail. There has never been an operation where there were not several ‘ringers’ in each group to sabotage and disrupt. This one is no different.

    At demonstrations, they are always the loudest, and the most aggressive looking for confrontation where none need be. They also often seemed the most dedicated. Some would try to use control , they were the most obvious, others distraction, others, their verbosity. MK ultra techniques are not used by truthful folks who want something done. They will be use by the operatives . Some one so entrenched they have made a career out an event -big red flag! Then look at specialists who know a certain part about structures ,but they have never built any. . . or destroyed them.. . .

    Man walks up to you with a 50 caliber on the range. . . .my bet is you know whether he knows what he is doing before he gets to the rest.

    I say this because the above looks just like this too me.

  17. It’s important to know exactly how the Twin Towers were brought down because we want to prosecute each and every person who had anything to do with the destruction of the WTC and the cold blooded murder of over 3000 American citizens and that number grows higher everyday with the deaths of first responders. And the people who have died in the so called War on Terror. These people must be brought to justice through a fair jury trial and if found guilty, hung on the White House lawn live on National TV for the whole world to see. But the only way that will happen is with a complete and total REVOLUTION. Would we win? I doubt it, but at least we could poke a finger in their eye and maybe spit in their face, hey at least that’s something… Otherwise we’re just whistling Dixie.

  18. Vince Giesbrecht writes

    “As Dennis mentioned too … the official footage shows the plane coming in from 2 entirely different angles! . . . There is just NO WAY I can reconcile both of those videos, no matter how hard I try.”

    I’ll agree that the planes look like they fly in from different angles on different videos; for a while I entertained the idea that the planes were complete CGI fabrications. However, I saw a video in which each video was overlaid a matching 3D model of the buildings and lower Manhattan; the videos matched the 3D model of the city and the approach of the plane — so even if our eyes are telling us it’s not the same video, the different perspectives do indeed match up correctly.

    Skip to 12 00 in the following YT video to see what I mean youtube.com/watch?v=9-cRJTkMPNA

    FWIW, I’m not suggesting that planes did indeed hit the WTC. All I’ll note now, is that this is one of the stickiest problems of 9/11 — were planes used, were they CGI, holograms, etc. Interestingly, this question has not yet proved to be as divisive as, say, nukes vs. thermite.

  19. Just as we are fascinated by the history of Rome 100BC-100AD, future generations will be fascinated by the history of the USA 1900-2100. We still don’t know everything about some major events but I am sure future historians will get to the truth.

    The term “Cui Bono” was used by the Romans, and it still stands today.

    • Exactly John. Thank you. I’ll repeat it.

      Who did it is infinitely more important than exactly how. VT knows both answers anyway. Israeli dual citizens, Neoconartists. Google Israel did 911 guys.

  20. As with the JFK assassination, “who did it and how” has become a parlor game—in the words of Donald Sutherland’s character in the film, “JFK.” The game never ends, because the high US Government officials who know the answers, both to JFK’s murder and to 9/11, are never asked; and thus no one is ever made to account. The presumption of innocence, incidentally, protects Lee Harvey Oswald and his memory—one of the inconveniences of killing him. Government crime is a constitutional problem, which has nearly proved the country’s undoing. Will the American people still be arguing about 9/11 long after the nation itself is gone, and questions about 9/11 are of purely historical interest? Why did Rome fall? I favor the theory that it simply ran out of gas.

    • Precisely Bruce. The real evidence is in, we know what happened and what did not.

      On a minor note, in The Money Masters documentary Bill Still documents that Rome fell when it’s inexpensive and effective brass and copper money supply was converted to gold, which allowed monopoly and caused poverty.

  21. I’m no scientist or pretend to be. Could be mini-nukes or mini-nukes + explosives. But I would be willing to bet mini-nukes were at least part of it, because as Bernie says on FB above, “that picture of the massive hole in the granite bedrock underneath where once stood the buildings is worth a thousand words.”

  22. USA does not only have big heart it also has big Ass. So called Israel can push a pencil though it or a nuke it can take it.

  23. Ok Fair enough what happen to Bld 6 , the building was incinerated all that was left was the out side skeleton – so what did that king Kong Farting maybe it was cases of MOET Champane in the basement, the HULK did it,hhhuuuuummmm , Stan Lee did it !

    Incredible see inside of building 6 http //youtu.be/a4FkO5ry1uo

    Links are under the video for inside pictures of World Trade Center 6 , the interior is missing ,its not crushed or explosives go to the link and see for yourself .

    There is no parts of the towers inside , the basement is intact , the walls are intact . Its like something sucked all the office furniture , computers, walls ,doors ,floors , desks filing cabinets , beams , structure , everything is missing ?

    This means some kind of very exotic secret technology was used

    https //www.youtube.com/watch?v=509xQgcoMN8

    • There are really several classes of evidence. One class has occupied AE911&Truth; another has busied Dr. Wood; another VT; and so on. This suggests several modes of destruction were used. The amount of evidence is truly overwhelming. Not all the effects are exotic but some certainly are. The World Trade Center was a great opportunity to destroy more or less defunct buildings for tests; to create a false flag; to destroy evidence held in the buildings and eliminate certain people. And to make some money! It was quite rich in potentials and very tempting. Just consider how many individuals and groups stood to benefit. It was a bonanza for bad guys.

  24. I think we can all see the limitations of nano thermite. I have spent a lot of time analyzing 9/11 from the very first day. The complexities are vast. Trying to solve the riddle by reason alone might take centuries. Presently while impressed by VT’s mini nuke hypothesis I find it does not save all the appearance. I am not convinced for example that the quasi and partially burnt autos can be accounted for by nukes. And there are other exotice consequences that seem to defy either nano thermite or mini nukes. Perhaps a variety of things were done to keep people busy and also in contention with each other over which hypothesis is best. While some have locked on to a particular idea of what happened I prefer to study and float or hover over the various ones seeing value to some extent in each. In the meantime the perpetrators are aging and as with Kennedy assassination headed beyond worldly justice. The worst possibility with a new investigation would be the deaths that would in all likelidhood take place as troublesome witnesses were silenced forever.

    • William– Try an Encyclopedia of Knowledge put together over many years by Dimitri Khalezov.
      Only released late August 2013. The book should answer almost any question you might have!!
      This link is an easy one http //www.911-truth.net/9-11thology-third_truth_v4_full.zip

      A lot of people are dedicated to us not finding the Truths– get some more ammo for yourself!

    • disobey4sure–Thanks. Still even with encylopedic knowledge of nuclear phenomenon can he produce explanations for the autos? And the strange holes in glass. The peculiar absence of heat? Etc. What I already know suggests, no. Anyway a large part of my response is aimed at the fact that even knowing exactly what happened we are no closer to the arrest of those responsible. Their power insures permanent immunity.

    • William St. George– I’ll repeat what I said above–“The book should answer almost any question you might have!!” You really need to have the Complete information– I’ve read and studied since Day One and have seen No better analysis– Took him 10 years to complete the Book.
      Cliff Notes don’t help, even a Summary can’t do justice. Unless you are a pretty good reader and
      researcher, it might take a few weeks to read completely. It’s written almost like a mystery novel and should be read front to back– or you might not get the complete picture–skipping around
      will not reveal the culprits– like in a good novel. Up to you to learn!!

  25. USA does not only have big hear it also has big Ass. So called Israel can push a pencil though it or a nuke it can take it.

  26. Nice point Simp. I always point out the “pyroclastic” convrete and the something like 2000 degree underground temp in the caverns
    created by their demo MONTHS afterwards, satellite confirmed.
    Israel, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Loeb, Seif, Mellon,

  27. Duff’s descriptions of how nukes simplified the process (compared to conventional explosives) did explain how the nukes would be contained sufficiently as to not be obvious nuclear detonations. This article doesn’t clearly refute Duff’s – it just denies it. It also seems to me that where this article talks about really massive amounts of thermite etc. being “poured in” — that would have to leave a huge forensic trail – outside of the complex even, and I’m not sure that’s the case.

  28. khaled hussien is full of it, or an obvious disinfo artist. “al qaeda did it?” how? with hijacked planes that were in control of NORAD?
    FauxScienceSlayer, I have thought that the outer sections were 14″ box girders, not 24.” It really does not matter, except that I have written a short book of my own -no one wants to read it!- and I like for the details to add up. Maybe I got that from one of John Lear’s interviews.
    Lots of interesting info here, Kevin. gracias.

  29. This is highly technical, and because it is all “could have” I don’t know if it would hold up in court – one of the objectives you stated in the beginning. As I follow it, W. Giesbrecht is saying that there was an opportunity for a heavy explosive in the middle of the collapse when everything spreads out. I would agree. Then there is the initial explosion in the basement timed for the airplane hit – that might also have been a tactical nuke. I always thought the the continuing heat underneath the towers was caused by the continuing reaction of thermite, which burns incompletely because of the oxides on the aluminum – but would continue to react for a long time. I think the area under the towers was hot for weeks which would be consistent with what W. Giesbrecht says. So it could have been both – but the technical complications would make everything more difficult in court.

    • Reply Part 2
      But aren’t we complicating things more than necessary. Most of the beams were cut by cutter charges as in most controlled demolitions, and we can see them work down the building. We also see diagonally cut columns in the remains. This, plus the video of the explosions going down the building with the fireman describing the explosions with “pow, pow, pow” would be all you would need to make the case for the A&E911Truth folks, which I support.

      Also, we are forgetting entirely Building 7 which is obviously a controlled demolition, and would have taken weeks to set up. This would also hold up in court.

  30. Mr Giesbrecht did not do his homework. The exterior columns were 24″ outside dimension, constant ground to roof section with additional plates added inside to allow for increasing loads from top to bottom. These are known as Vierendeel Trusses, with 59 columns per side, 18″ window gap between each column. Local newsreel footage shows the three story sections, built at a Hudson river shipyard being hoisted from barges as “waffle sections” and field wielded. These box columns were 6″ wall at base, 1/2″ wall thickness at roof and easily accessible by removing a sheet metal roof flashing. The interior columns were standard Wide Flange section, and all were accessible from core elevators and stairs. There is inadequate volume in underfloor electrical duct for the explosive material required. From the time of occupancy, the interior columns were under constant temperature, so NO thermal expansion summer to winter.

    I attended the A & E Truth DVD premiers in Austin, May 2009 and Houston, Aug 2011. I reviewed all the material at the Dr Judy Woods site. The VT mini-nuke hypothesis is the most likely.

    • I have to agree. I’ve read so much on this event that I feel I already have a degree in structural engineering, Seeing pictures of the World Trade Center does not do it justice, you’d have had to have been there to know and see the sheer enormity and strength of those buildings to understand in a nano-second that planes were not used to bring this behemoth down. I knew IMMEDIATELY when watching these buildings fall that this was a con. Absolutely nothing makes more sense than mini nukes. And these’s only one tribe of people who had the means, motive, finance and opportunity to do this. End of story.

    • Only the ignorant would continue to mindlessly parrot the term “Nazi” in any context, let-alone those subjects related to Larry Silverstein Properties, etc

      The slur .nazi’ was an insult first coined by a jew named Konrad Heiden during the early years the NSDAP. Heiden was a journalist member of the opposition Social Democratic Party (SDP). He deployed a DEROGATORY AND OPPOSING VARIANT of a term used for identifying the Marxist SDP “Sozi” (short for Sozialisten). ‘Nazi’ was a slur term derived from the Bavarian street-talk for “simpleton.” Heiden combined the sounds with the common name Ignatz (such as “John Smith” in English circles) Ignatz-sozi. The phoneme ‘nazi’ is a combination by the jew Heiden when degrading members of the NSDAP as “nutsy”. The term you use was regarded as derogatory by the National Socialists and they would NEVER use it to describe their persons.

      In your case, like many others that seek to be trendy/popular (I guess), when you spew the misnomer ‘nazi,’ you are doing the work of the very Talmudic-Judaic-Marxist-Bolshevik-Sayanim filth that perpetrated 9/11. What next, Germans had something to do with 9/11?

      In the future you might use the term Bush Bolsheviks (as just one example); that would be FAR more accurate/proper. This is not meant to be a slam. But you’re your use of the phrase “bush Nazis” is counterproductive and just literally ignorant.

    • @mikeWARD991, @Kalin, @matthewmccauley

      Please see and share

      http //vimeo.com/paulvsheridan/videos/sort alphabetical/format thumbnail

    • “The VT mini-nuke hypothesis is the most likely.”

      A hybrid event is the most likely – limited use of conventional explosives to make the appearance of an aircraft hit, start the fires, sever connections to the electrical and communications grid, and cutting the “hat truss” discussed in this article so the initial collapse was vertical instead of toppling; followed by nuclear demolitions that turned the majority of the structures into pyroclastic flow. Nuclear explosions would not have been suitable to carry out the first actions (and remember all the accounts of hearing explosions well before the final collapse), while conventional explosives would not have created many of the secondary effects observed, and truly massive quantities would have been required.

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