Hardly A Debate – Gilad Atzmon vs. Geoffrey Alderman

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Discussing Bibi, Tzipi and Yair

By Gilad Atzmon

Yesterday I was invited by Press TV to participate in their daily program, ‘The Debate.’ In the last few years I have occasionally participated on the show. Usually I am confronted with banal Hasbara mouthpieces.  I tend to demolish their arguments within the first round of questions.

Yesterday, I was asked to debate professor Geoffrey Alderman – an avid Zionist academic. To my great surprise Alderman and I agreed on pretty much everything:  we had similar views on Israeli politics, the nature of the Jewish State, Netanyahu’s Politics, Netanyahu’s engineered crisis, Jewish Lobby Domination in the West and other topics. Fascinating exchange but hardly a debate.

 


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For the last decade I have been chased by Jewish ‘anti’ Zionists who wrote Jewish petitions against me and tried every Talmudic trick to silence my criticism of Jewish power and Jewish ID politics.  I have also been harassed by some Trotskyites and even a list of 20 Palestinians who called for my ‘disavowal.’  These attempts to stop me achieved the opposite – if anything, they proved my point regarding Jewish dissent being a corrosive controlled opposition apparatus.

In all this time, not a single one of my Jewish anti Zionist or Trotskyite detractors have had the guts to debate me. But somehow, rabid Zionists and hard-core Hasbara agents are made from different materials. They must have have a modicum of dignity and confidence in their system.

 My conclusion may upset some. As a thinker and an artist stimulated by challenge and titillated by intellectual provocation, I prefer to deal with hard core Zionists and Israeli Right wing ideologues rather than with the so-called ‘anti’ and their culture of deceit.  At least with Zionists, I know exactly what I am up against.

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Gilad Atzmon

Gilad Atzmon is an Israeli-born British jazz saxophonist, novelist, political activist and writer.

Atzmon's album Exile was BBC jazz album of the year in 2003. Playing over 100 dates a year,[4] he has been called "surely the hardest-gigging man in British jazz." His albums, of which he has recorded nine to date, often explore the music of the Middle East and political themes. He has described himself as a "devoted political artist." He supports the Palestinian right of return and the one-state solution in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

His criticisms of Zionism, Jewish identity, and Judaism, as well as his controversial views on The Holocaust and Jewish history have led to allegations of antisemitism from both Zionists and anti-Zionists. A profile in The Guardian in 2009 which described Atzmon as "one of London's finest saxophonists" stated: "It is Atzmon's blunt anti-Zionism rather than his music that has given him an international profile, particularly in the Arab world, where his essays are widely read."

His new book The Wandering Who? is now availble at Amazon.com

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  1. ” But somehow, rabid Zionists and hard-core Hasbara agents are made from different materials. They must have have a modicum of dignity and confidence in their system.”

    With all due respect Mr Atzmon, if they didn’t have the confidence to stand behind their beliefs they would be suicidal. The logic? Removing people from existence based on their inferiority, or intentionally manipulating them using tricks of the trade displays a lack of conscious. The void is filled with intention. I think the anti-zionists lack skill and may understand that the zionist is trained, or just out to lunch. My impression is that you have to go to school to learn how to behave as a successful reprobate. The uneducated variety are just lunatics without a dime or a prayer.

    • Almost forgot the point. I think most anti-zionits don’t like debating the issue of zionism because its difficult to discuss actions and methodologies knowing that their actions are legalized but still immoral. Thats a tough one to get around.

    • I am not sure,,, The Jewish anti Zionists ,, are primarily Jewish and devoted to jewish tribal interests. For years they restricted the debate to ‘colonialism’ and ‘apartheid’ in an attempt to conceal the vile nature of Jewish nationalism and Jewish secular culture,,, But this project collapsed now,, in fact it has never been successful ,,, as we know ,, Judeo Bolshevism and ID politics never made it into popular movement …

    • Ok. I see it, maybe. I don’t see an issue with nationalism or passion for a religious/political ideology in any environment that restricts physical violence and respects outsiders as equals. To each his own as long as we can all get along in public. A book or publication that points out more about these specific anti-zionists would be appreciated.
      At first I was thinking the anti Zionist was a generic term.

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