NEO – Washington turns its back on Poroshenko

Poroshenko now has virtually no power over the course of events in Ukraine

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… by  Konrad Stachnio,    … with New Eastern Outlook, Moscow

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[ Editor’s noteKonrad gives us a different viewpoint on the Ukraine crisis from his position of being nearby in Poland, and also in opposition to the ruling party’s “Let’s get dem Russians before Julia Tymoshenko nukes them all”.

We have been editorializing about most of our sources in Ukraine viewing Poroshenko as a dead man walking. But after their humiliating military defeat, Western Ukraine is more divided than ever, and this usually serves the interest of domestic criminals and outside influences.

The trump card will be who will have control over the billions — which could add up to $50B before it is all over — that the West is pulling together… more loans to bury Ukraine in debt. Will this be handed to the nationalist crowd to loot on a silver platter? I don’t think so.

With the economy on life support, the money power is supreme, with the military less important. But the West has a huge black eye in Ukraine, even being judged as looters, since their stupid strategy of seeking a military victory over the Donbas region has impoverished the value of their prize.

Another way to look at it is that the fire sale prices will be that much lower. Who would be looking at Ukraine as a place to invest money when the current leadership has offered it as a WW3 battleground? You just can’t make this stuff up… Jim W. Dean ]

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–  First published  …  February 19, 2015  –

 

You could have said "no", Petr

You could have said “no”, Petr

It seems that Poroshenko now has virtually no power over the course of events in Ukraine and he’s almost finished. According to what the leader of Novorossiya, Oleg Tsarov says – he will be overthrown soon.

Second, he does not represent any army because currently he is even unable to perform the successful mobilization, since the majority of Ukrainians do not want to fight after all. And third, the real power is the Right Sector, with Yarosh and Kolomoisky. As long as they have the money and weapons, there will be no ceasefire. Why is that?

It is for the simple fact that their only interest is power for its own sake and they do not intend to protect the people of Ukraine. It may come sooner than later that either do to corruption/indolence or NATO subversion that all volunteer forces and nationalist partisans from all factions will be branded as criminals or bandits etc…. Quote from facebook of Misanthropic Division.

The boys mean what they say and try really hard to produce their own weapons in workshops. There is even a video on this issue showing how to do produce an Ukrainian Bullpup.

Another negotiationstook place in Minsk for settlement of the military situation in Donbass, Ukrainian government continues to ignore calls of volunteer battalions about necessity of arming for volunteers. But it’s impossible to win a war without weapons. Therefore DUC battalion did it yourself, basing on the fact that we have what we have.

Misanthrope

Misanthrope

But it seems that the US will be supplying Ukrainian nationalists with “lethal defensive weapons” all the same, despite all controversy this step may cause, in order to prolong the war in Ukraine.

The leader of the “Right Sector” Dmytro Yarosh has already announced that an alternative General Staff was established, to which the so-called volunteer corps fighting against the uprising in Donbass will be subordinate.

Besides the UKO, about seventeen different volunteer battalions, both divisions subordinated to the Interior Ministry as well as the Ministry of Defence intend to join this initiative – said Yarosh.

Defense Minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic Vladimir Kononov said,

“I have data that 17 territorial battalions withdrew from subordination to UAF and came under the jurisdiction of Yarosh.” This is the “Right Sector”.

And, of course, only by mere coincidence, these 17 battalions are controlled by Kolomoisky, who according to the information provided by Oleg Tsarov, wants to overthrow the president by means of these battalions. Poroshenko is an unnecessary figure now who cannot control anything.

At this point the U.S. turns its back on him because the Donbass pacification plan is not working as it was supposed to. Ordinary Ukrainians turn him away as well fleeing to avoid mobilization and finally his real power that is mean volunteer battalions are now in opposition to Poroshenko.

Accused Israeli - Cypriot Terrorist Leader Kolomoisky

Accused Israeli-Cypriot Terrorist Leader and Ukrainian-Swiss Oligarch, Ihor Kolomoisky

The peace in Ukraine may prevail when the main sponsor that is the U.S. is ousted from power in Kiev. If Poroshenko fails, he will be replaced by someone else — possibly Kolomoisky, Yatsenyuk or some psychopaths from the Right Sector whose main dream is to fight to the last drop of blood and die on the battlefield.

Even if the ceasefire comes into force, what will happen then with the bloodthirsty battalions which consider Poroshenko a traitor? Do you think that everything will return to normal?

People will go to work, they will start paying taxes and spending time with their neighbors? But the guys from the Misanthropic Division said clearly that taxes and neighbors ‘are not interesting’ and they prefer feel the adrenaline rush on the battlefield.

The peace talks could work if the real power: the United States, volunteer battalions and Ukrainian oligarchs sponsoring them decided on signing a peace agreement with the New Russia. But that will not happen because the volunteer battalions regard New Russians as subhuman terrorists that must be eradicated as weeds. While The USA want to go to war, weaken and separate Russia from Europe and establish TTIP Instead.

Peace is possible only if the private battalions don’t receive arms. This can occur either through lack of funding from the oligarchs, or by the fact that the army of New Russia would simply wipe them out, before the US ships its “means of supporting Ukrainian democracy”. There’s no changing the view of those only interested in slaughtering their Russian-speaking neighbours.

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Some Ukrainians now seek the Adrenaline high of the Battlefield

Quote from the site of the Misanthropic Division:

Death is inevitable. But only those who will fall with honor as true warriors taste of eternal peace in the chambers of Valhalla. We will win this war or we will die, but we will try to bring with us the largest number of enemies. 

Let’s make it clear – these people want to die on the battlefield for the white race, national socialism and Bandera ideas etc. To eliminate them you need to conquer them militarily or cease financing them. Currently the homemade weapon produced by them is not enough to wage a full scale war, but things may change due to Washington.

Should they be deprived of funding and arms shipments, they can do Maidan again in Kiev, or become completely independent guerrilla looting towns and villages, also producing their own weapons. Any similarities with the UPA-era World War 2? It’s quite a realistic scenario that should be taken into account as now they shoot at Ukrainians who dare to give up fighting on the frontline.

But let me say something to my favourite Yuri Michalczyszyn – the chief of propaganda and analysis of the Security Service of the SBU. Some time ago he gave a lecture called “Guerrilla war in the city”.

Wonderful and intolerant Palestinian people blow up the invaders, leading a guerrilla war in the city. In Gaza, appeared a new type of resistance fighters in urban conditions. Hamas leaders have developed extraordinary personal humility. A total of 1,500 Israelis were killed, who have been victims of Palestinian resistance fighters.

There was a phenomenal phenomenon militants donate their lives and receiving (simultaneously) the lives of several occupiers … We see the effectiveness of guerrilla warfare involving ideologically committed fighters. Palestinians give us positive role models.

This is only an example of what volunteer battalions can do when they are deprived of funding from Kolomoisky, acting entirely on being banished by the new government – what as you can see from the above statements they realize and what is more they are even prepared for this.

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Prognosis

Donetsk and Novo Russia

Donetsk and Novo Russia

A good sign is that the army of New Russia is becoming more and more skillful, and I think that soon it will be able to master the whole frontline.

It is also quite promising that the recent peace talks in Minsk were unattended by the USA which due to the fact that Washington is increasingly marginalized and weakened.

Another example is the fact that a few days ago the European Parliament adopted a resolution demanding to bring to court those responsible for the illegal detention of prisoners by the CIA.

MEPs expressed their opposition to the “horrific interrogation methods used in the CIA’s secret prisons”. The Resolution also calls for the United States to initiate appropriate investigations and punishment of the perpetrators responsible for torturing people detained in secret CIA facilities.

However, the provisions of the Minsk constantly seem to be a joke at a time when people who actually govern in Ukraine do not take part in them, and certainly it is not Poroshenko. According to a report from the BBC, President Obama has made it clear that the United States is on a war footing with Russia and they are now exploring all available options to deal with Putin should things in the Ukraine sour.

US President Barack Obama says yes to diplomacy, but then adds: “Now, it is true that if, in fact, diplomacy fails, what I’ve asked my team to do is to look at all options. What other means can we put in place to change Mr Putin’s calculus? And the possibility of lethal defensive weapons is one of those options that’s being examined.”

An example could be the announcement of the U.S. military training in Ukraine, which is planned to start in March. The U.S. soldiers will train battalions in performing security tasks, protecting from rebel artillery and etc.

Konrad Stachnio is an independent Poland based journalist who has hosted a number of radio and TV programs for the Polish edition of PrisonPlanet; exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

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9 Responses to "NEO – Washington turns its back on Poroshenko"

  1. Keyser Soze  March 1, 2015 at 11:45 pm

    I think that Poroshenko could end up like Gaddafi and Mussolini in the long run.
    It appears that his troops have been poorly treated and have lost respect for him .
    Once the Ukrainian people turn on him which seems to be gathering momentum, his days will be over.
    Whatever happens, it,s not over yet.
    The next few months will be very interesting indeed.

  2. judgment  February 28, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    How idiotic to still promote the canard that Bibi is coming to show how Iran would destroy Israel. The sole purpose of Bibi is to humiliate Obama and demonstrate his power over the USA. I fully remember the time he came and our Congress made a fool of itself with a practical coronation. Bibi has been riding that power horse from day one. I also remember Israeli people quoting Bibi “If they don’t give me what I want I will pull up that treaty” and the sing along chattering ” wait till you see what Bibi will do to that Obama, he will show him who is in charge.” And finally, even before Obama, when Clinton worked with Rabin for a Peace Agreement, a Reporter faced Bibi in Tel Aviv and asked Bibi why he was pushing those settlement when he knew Congress and the administration was against it ? ANSWER, his words ” I am not concerned with the Administration, Congress will come around, I know”. So what do you thing is the real reason for Bibi Congressional grand standing? . The real question is,” how did Bibi know he has Congress in his packet?” when he said:” NOT WORRIED, CONGRESS WILL COME AROUND” .
    And it did last time. I posed that question to Congress back then.

  3. mike orin  February 28, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    Jim Willie is reporting that Germany will back the BRICS. Others say that France, too, will join in. Obama follows his orders and keeps hostility with Russia front and center, marginalizing the US. Who’s to say that the script isn’t to make the US a patsy for nuclear defeat?

  4. Amarka  February 28, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    “The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism.” (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 143-144).

    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn,
    “You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They Hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse…More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their blood- stained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of its perpetrators.”

    • moneytalks  February 28, 2015 at 6:42 pm

      “” The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of its perpetrators.””

      Unfortunately it is worse than that . The [ global mind ] is in their hands ( albeit perhaps loosely in their grip ) .

  5. Tiu  February 27, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Whodda thunk it? An African becoming the President of Jewmerica, backing white supremacist Nazi’s in the Ukraine, and then dragging the world into WW3… or will it be WW4 for the future’s historians?
    Man this century started off wrong with the Y2K bug followed by 9/11 and all the sh*t that threw up, and it doesn’t look like it’s going to get better any time soon.
    My sympathies go to the victims in the Ukraine.

  6. Denyse Pez  February 27, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    This is my opinion on this its all bullshit with each player

    Why is it I’m unable to respond?

  7. Eduard  February 27, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    “Russian ag[g]ression”?

    Surely, you are kidding.

    I’d take a break from watching Fox News and all of the Zio-controlled MSM for a while and read first hand what the US and European military top brass and CIA have admitted regarding the “Russian ag[g]ression. They state there is NO EVIDENCE, none, zilch. If anything, the Russians may be supplying Novorussia arms and weapons. But, even this allegation has not been proven. Contrarily, there is evidence of the US supplying Kiev with weapons. It is the chronically-lying Kiev government and the neocons that make unsubstantiatial allegations of “Russian Ag[g]ression”.

  8. robert  February 26, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    Does anyone else get the feeling that the Obama administration is ahead of the game and is fumbling the ball, and allowing the many costly wars funded by Zionist interests, to drain their coffers dry? The source of their income is drying up with the impact from the GFC, attack on the corrupt banking organisations and drop in oil revenue. It is all playing into the hands of those opposed to the Zionist and friends corruption.

    It would not surprise me if Putin had done a deal for Crimea and East Ukraine with the knowledge of the US

    Likewise, the media is slowly starting to turn against the Zionist infestation of the West. I wrote some years back that Obama was not able to stand up to Zionist power without the support of the general public which could only come when there was an awakening and shift of sentiment. It is almost here. It would have been unthinkable that a U.S. President would snub an Israeli Prime Minister without howls of indignation and repercussions. The end is nigh.

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