Germany says TTIP talks with US failed

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… from  Press TV,  Tehran

What has folks so riled up?

What has folks so riled up?

[ Editor’s Note: Germany’s Economic Minister made a flank move on the dead-in-the-water TTIP trade talks to get word of the zero progress after 14 sessions out to the US and EU publics. Thank you Mr. Gabriel.

The public’s attitude, those I converse with, shows a growing suspicion and antipathy toward trade treaties, as future generations have no say so afterwards.

They also do not trust far away dispute resolution mechanisms, where we have a history of powerful interests being able to influence events at the public’s expense. After all, that’s what their game is.

I remember my surprise when hearing Putin blurt out during one of his long press conferences, the kind that no one in the so-called free world ever has, that Russia had to negotiate for 15 years to get into the World Trade Organization (WTO), and yet the West just used other avenues to sanction Moscow when it chose.

That the negotiations are done in secret is enough to send all my bells and whistles ringing. Gosh, …it seems they don’t feel the public would like seeing the proposals put on the table, so as to give their negotiation teams some informed consent.

Do they think we are too stupid to be brought into the process? Do they think we have forgotten what a hustle NAFTA was for Americans, despite its being sold as the best thing since sliced bread?

If anyone has seen any leaks as to what the big hangups have been on TTIP, please pass them on to us in the commentsJim W. Dean ]


– First published  …  August 28, 2016


German Economic Minister Sigmar Gabriel

Germany says negotiations between the European Union and the United States over a free trade agreement have failed.

Germany’s Economy Minister Sigmar Gabriel told reporters that the talks had failed to make progress on any of the major sections of the long-running negotiations over the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, or TTIP.

Gabriel accused the US of being “angry” about the deal that the EU struck with Canada, known as CETA.  He said US officials believe that CETA contains elements that Washington does not want to see in the TTIP, AP reported.

“We mustn’t submit to the American proposals,” said Gabriel, who is also Germany’s Vice Chancellor and the head of the country’s center-left Social Democratic Party. 

“In my opinion, the negotiations with the United States have de facto failed, even though nobody is really admitting it,” he said.

The official further emphasized that in 14 rounds of talks, the two sides have failed to agree on a single common item out of 27 chapters being discussed.

Gabriel’s ministry is not directly involved in talks with the US over the TTIP because trade agreements are negotiated at the EU level, AP added. Nevertheless, such a damning verdict from a leading official in Europe’s biggest economy is likely to make further talks between the EU executive and the Obama administration harder, the report emphasized.

Gabriel’s comments contrast with those of Chancellor Angela Merkel, who said last month that TTIP was “absolutely in Europe’s interest.”

Popular opposition to a free trade agreement with the United States is strong in Germany, AP added. Campaigners have called for nationwide protests against the talks on 17 September 2016 — about year before Germany’s next general election.


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6 Responses to "Germany says TTIP talks with US failed"

  1. Carnaptious  August 29, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    TTIP and TTP are corporate power grabs, essentially giving the power to overturn any government legislation that impacts profits. One of the more pernicious provisions, as I understand it, is that corporations can sue governments for loss of “expected profits.” It won’t be long before corporations realize they can “expect” 100% gains over last year, and sue taxpayers for the “loss.” Jobs created by TTIP/TTP? Well, if that were so, Congress would not have sought $700 million to retrain the US workers expected lose their jobs due to these trade bills.

    As Mr. Dean wrote above: “Do they think we are too stupid to be brought into the process? Do they think we have forgotten what a hustle NAFTA was for Americans, despite its being sold as the best thing since sliced bread?” No, many people are not that stupid, and no one I know wants to see this power grab pass through Congress in fast track mode (only a yea or nay vote, no amendments or revisions allowed). It should die NOW, before our bribed or blackmailed legislators have an opportunity to throw trillions more US taxpayer dollars into the insatiably greedy maws of multinational corporations and congressional cronies (and no doubt fattening the value of their own portfolios). The people are sick and tired of this crap. We are many, they are vanishingly few.

  2. Trakkath  August 29, 2016 at 7:34 am

    It is nothing more than to hand over your soul and the weapons to kill you if you don´t obey to their wishes. They spare this way any war and military budget to bow us all down to their masters wishes.

  3. Peter Johnson  August 29, 2016 at 5:20 am

    As I understand it, the treaty would give multinationals the right to sue European states to remove “nuisance legislation” that impedes their profits — requiring the retesting of auto parts to EC standards when they are already approved to DOT standards or vice versa, for example.

    The fear is that the target is the sort of “nuisance legislation” that keeps the NHS as a govt. service, or keeps GMO’s and hormone-laced beef out of our food chain.

    The EU is worried that giving corporations the right to force changes in legislation will transfer their sovereignty to the corporations — You don’t need two brains to understand that this would definitely happen.

  4. captain obvious  August 29, 2016 at 1:30 am

    economic sabotage is treason, no matter what country it is done to.
    nafta-gatt etc was exactly that to the USA, and the criminals still walk free.
    there is no need of “permanent contracts” for trade, or “guaranteed profits” to corporate entities who’s products are destructive, IS part of what they are demanding, and ridiculous!

  5. Preston James, Ph.D  August 28, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    Terrific article that suggest the Germans have been shocked into reality and now understand the true dangers of Globalism and the destruction of their borders, language and culture!

    • volker-dee  August 29, 2016 at 3:37 am

      Sad enough to suppose that a party would act to follow the will of the people JUST to get more votes. I do NOT believe, that the results of German elections mirror the will of the Germans in ANY shape or form. They allways try to sell us the story of the dumb neighbour. People who wouldn´t be able to find their nose. I do NOT believe in this crap.
      We had several hundred thousand people on the streets in Berlin – expressing their discontent with TTIP AND CETA. My mother – aged 83 and not interested in politics – said these days that if they are negotiating in secret, they´ve got to hide something evil.
      Thats not “rocket science” people.
      All political things hidden from the public eye are destructive. There are rules like the freedom of information act – somehow I seem to be not alone in demanding disclosure of political decisions and processes.

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