Trump’s “isolationism” vs. Deep State



Basirat News, Tehran – interview with Kevin Barrett,

I doubt that Trump’s isolationist instincts will prevail over the imperialism of the Deep State.

Kevin Barrett is a scholar of literature and Islamic Studies, but he has been doing political analysis and commentary since 2006, when he was forced out of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and the American academy, for researching and writing about the September 11th, 2001 attacks and supporting the idea that this event was a neoconservative coup or “inside job.” 

Following is the full text of Basirat’s interview with Kevin Barrett.

Q : Do the American people have tendency towards conservatives or Donald Trump’s popularity was the result of his political slogans?

A : The American people are basically conservative, like many other peoples. But Donald Trump’s support stems not from his conservatism, but rather his anti-elitist and anti-foreigner rhetoric. Trump has attacked the media, the political parties, immigrants, Muslims, and various foreign countries including China (which he claims is profiting from trade deals), Iran (which he says threatens Israel and is profiting of nuclear deal), and Europe and Japan (which he says are not paying enough for the US occupation of their countries.) Many working-class Americans have seen that during the past two decades, their standard of living has deteriorated, and they are looking for someone to blame. Trump has skillfully offered a long list of scapegoats. But we should keep in mind that Trump is actually not very popular. He does have his core supporters, but he also has the highest negative rating of any new president in US history. So he will preside over a deeply divided America.

Q : Should we expect Donald Trump applying his promises about immigrants and Muslims or he would be a different person after being elected?

A : Trump will not be able to keep his campaign promise to deport more than 10 million illegal immigrants. The logistics would be too expensive, and the backlash would also be intense – especially from the big corporations that are dependent on illegal immigrants as cheap labor. But in the event of another big false flag attack, he may be able to ratchet up Islamophobia to new heights, and persecute Muslims far beyond the level they are being persecuted now, which is considerable. The failure of American Muslims to actively resist the propaganda version of 9/11/2001 and the so-called “war on terror” has left them deeply vulnerable.

Q : What would be his foreign policy strategy?

A : I don’t think Trump himself  has a strategy, because he doesn’t have a broad or deep understanding of the world. He has instincts, prejudices, and emotional reactions, but no real analysis or policy prescription. The good news is that his instincts are isolationist, meaning that he is not interested in policing the world for the US Empire; he would rather try to rebuild America at home. The bad news is that he will be surrounded by neoconservatives who are experts in deceiving Americans to gain support for neocon wars. I would not be surprised if the neoconservatives stage another big false flag event like 9/11/2001 or bigger, to force Trump into the wars they want, and give him the police state tools to resist the protests that threaten to hobble his presidency. The result might look a bit like 2001, when George W. Bush was inaugurated with low popularity ratings in the wake of a contested election, but then managed to achieve near-unanimous support, even from those who had been his enemies, due to the false flag event on September 11th.

Q : What would be his attitude towards the Iran and p5+1 deal?

A : He says he will scrap it, though now he has changed that to “renegotiate” it. I can’t imagine how he could possibly renegotiate it in a way that would be acceptable both to Iran and to the neoconservatives allied with Netanyahu. So he will likely scrap the agreement. What this means for US-Iran relations isn’t clear, but obviously Iran needs to be extremely wary and well-prepared for all contingencies.

Q : It was said that the US would be isolated under Trump administration. What do you think?

A : I doubt that Trump’s isolationist instincts will prevail over the imperialism of the Deep State. Already Trump is appointing neoconservatives and establishment insiders for key positions. Although it is possible that the US will reach an entente with Russia over Syria and the Ukraine, in all other areas we should expect a more aggressive US policy under Trump, not a more isolationist one. The only way the US will retreat from its empire is if it is forced to, and that will only happen in the event of a huge economic crisis together with widespread social unrest. Such a scenario could materialize during Trump’s presidency, but it is not guaranteed by any means. The self-appointed guardians of empire will do everything they can to prevent it.

Q : How intense would you describe the public unrest after elections and what will be its effects?

A : There have been ongoing demonstrations all over the US protesting Trump’s election. Never in US history has a newly-elected president would met with such a strong opposition. I expect the unrest to continue, with ongoing protests from the Black Lives Matter movement and the Hispanic community and lots of their supporters. Trump is a narcissist, so he will deeply resent the protests and wish that he had a way to crush them. Another big neocon false flag could give him the police state tools to do that. In the worst case scenario, we could  witness the end of the American Republic and the rise of an openly fascist dictatorship.

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  1. If Trump unilateraly scraps the Iran deal then he will end up as top nemesis for French and German export industry and then the US exercising corporate discipline over EU will be in big trouble, as it already is for hunchy random sanctions. He should take the harder road of negotiating with Iran, through other Iran’s allies. But probably he won’t do it. It really seems that some crazy people in Israel think that scraping the Iran deal might be beneficial to them, but that is out of touch with reality. Such mayhem would surely, unlike Isil, spill over the Israel’s territorial fragility, the holy cow of their US based alliance.

    • Historically, JFK was the only one in limiting Jewish handling of American lives so, he was bullet-replaced by Johnson, who abolished JFK measures and policies. It was Spyro Agnew dumped for anti-Jewish remarks, so was Nixon also, for exposing them, for challenging Jewsih MSM control, Watergate was a poor excuse, but not playing with the idea of a National Party proposing to sell the Arabs a nuclear reactor, to be “duly” replaced with a solid 33degree masonic oath and in total compliance with the establishment Gerald Ford (Warren Commission). The designation of Mike Pence as VP was undoubtedly, the powers that be garantee that, in case Donald Trump cuddles the idea of honoring campaign promises and doesn’t follow NWO plans, impeachment is around the corner,. that’s the price to be paid for Republican Party support and Plan “B”. Also in the Works, cooling down approaches to Putin already countered by announcements of 12 carriers and 350 ships for the USN, keeping forces in Afghanistan and silence on NATO advances to Russian borders. Neocon plans don’t change, Hillary and Donald are just entertainment in seducing at campaign time, and pushing Americans into Palestinian condition.

  2. Kevin: Please comment on this point. In a separate article today Ian listed a number of people involved with Trump. One was Lewis Eisenberg. Here is a quote:
    “Eisenberg grew up in New Jersey, the Forward reported, and he has been floated as a possible pick for commerce secretary in the Trump administration. He was the chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey at the time of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center.

    Eisenberg told JTA that he was “extremely enthusiastic” about a Trump presidency, calling him “a strong advocate for Israel, a strong advocate for justice and order.”” If Eisenberg was chairman of the Port Authority at 9/11, was he also chairman when Lucky Larry and his group bought the towers earlier in the alleged “corrupt” transaction? Doesn’t he likely know many details about it and doesn’t Trump also likely know them? Please comment on all this. It doesn’t look good for any new disclosures does it?

    • One of the videos of Trump at the site of 9/11, the one where he talks about how strong the steel structures was, etc., he states he knew Lucky Larry (He’s a good guy). Also Trump has spent his life in NY. He also likely knows or knows of the Judge who blocked all challenges to the official lies of 9/11. Isn’t it likely Trump knows many inside details of 9/11 but has clammed up and will likely continue to clam up even more as we move forward now? Didn’t he carefully avoid talking about what he might do, if anything, regarding 9/11 during the campaign? My guess he will bury this issue.

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