Tillerson goes cold Turkey with Erdogan on Gulen

You can't see him, but Gulen is in the middle
You can’t see him, but Gulen is in the middle

…from ¬†Sputnik News, ¬†Moscow

The mysterious Mr. Gulen

[ Editor’s Note: The cat is out of the bag on this story, the mention of Gulen being a major US Intelligence asset, and that being just a bit of a hurdle for turning him over to Turkey, particularly when all published reports on the material Turkey has submitted for his extradition focused on his being a political opponent of Erdogan’s.

But not covered below in the Sputnik piece below is the bigger story. The Gulen organization is world wide, and if it is a spy network, why would it limit itself to just one client, when it could have more cards to play with in the big game, so as to be able to play one off against another.

VT has long had information of people being moved in and out of the US for Gulen “school positions” with very questionable qualifications, all signs of the usual front organization being run right out in the open. But this is something that cannot be done without the host country allowing it, which means it¬†is getting something in return.

By putting the story out now, Russia is putting the Gulen-US relationship “in play”, just when the news of the Putin-Trump planned visit being in the news. It is looking to be quite a busy Spring for us this year… JD ]

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We might want to go back and take a look at who might have been behind the Turkish coup

– First published ¬†… ¬†April 01, ¬†2017

With high hopes in place ahead of Rex Tillerson’s visit to Turkey, the reality proved less optimistic because the US Secretary of State failed to reach a consensus with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on all pressing bilateral issues, according to Russian political analyst Gevorg Mirzayan.

In an opinion piece for RIA Novosti, political analyst Gevorg Mirzayan of¬†the Russian Government’s Finance Institute specifically focused on¬†US Secretary of¬†State Rex Tillerson’s visit to¬†Turkey late last month, which he said failed to¬†meet US expectations.

During the March 30 visit, Tillerson had to get acquainted with the Turkish leadership and attempt to defuse bilateral tensions which Mirzayan said could end in a severance of US-Turkish relations.

“After all, Turkey, which independently resolves issues of¬†cooperation with¬†Russia and Iran, creates problems for¬†Americans. Especially given that it is still a NATO member and any problems pertaining to¬†Turkey immediately become NATO problems,” Mirzayan said.

Although Tillerson was able to¬†meet with¬†Turkey’s leader, he was unable to¬†meet his key objective of¬†dispelling key tensions between¬†the countries, Mirzayan added, referring to¬†Tillerson’s unwillingness to¬†reach a compromise with¬†Ankara on¬†Gulen’s alleged role in¬†Turkey’s coup and the Kurdish problem.

The Gulen Issue

Gulen, an Islamic cleric who lives in Pennsylvania, remains one of the most serious opponents of Erdogan and remains a thorn in his side despite his exile.

The cleric allegedly controls a whole network of¬†supporters in¬†Turkey and is working to¬†prevent Erdogan from¬†building the sultanate. Mirzayan recalled that Gulen’s extradition could prompt Erdogan to¬†make considerable concessions to¬†Washington.

“However, Tillerson and Erdogan failed to¬†agree on¬†the extradition because actually, President Trump cannot extradite Gulen, who allegedly cooperates with¬†US intelligence. According to¬†some sources, US intelligence often uses Gyulen’s network structures to¬†realize their goals,” Mirzayan said.

Considering the already-complicated relations between Trump and the CIA, the US President is unlikely to spoil them even further, he added, not ruling out that Gulen could become a lever for the White House to put pressure on the CIA.

The Kurdish Problem

Mirzayan recalled that President Erdogan demands that the US stop supporting the Syrian Kurds.

He quoted Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu as¬†saying that “the United States recognizes the Kurdish People’s Self-Defense Forces and the Democratic Union Party as¬†terrorist organizations but¬†despite this, America continues to¬†help them, and this affects our bilateral relations.”

“For Washington, the choice is, in¬†fact, obvious. They are not going to¬†abandon the Kurds, because it is the Kurdish forces who are advancing on¬†Raqqa, Daesh’s self-proclaimed capital in¬†Syria. Also, it is the Kurds who do not set any specific conditions for¬†the Americans, who need the Kurds much more than¬†Erdogan,” Mirzayan said.

In addition, he added, the Turks themselves say that they will not participate in¬†the liberation of¬†Raqqa, with¬†Erdogan insisting that to¬†fight terrorism, the US should rely on “legitimate” partners.

What’s more, Turkey currently urges both the White House an¬† Tillerson to¬†make a choice between “Turkish allies” and “Kurdish terrorists.”

Meanwhile, Tillerson has pledged that US President Donald Trump’s administration will continue to¬†build ties with¬†its long-standing NATO partner Turkey in¬†the years to¬†come.

“In the US, the people of¬†Turkey have a trusted ally and a partner who is committed to¬†its safety and security and advancing economic opportunity. ‚Ķ The Trump administration will continue to¬†build ties with¬†the long-standing ally and our friend,” Tillerson said at¬†a press briefing in¬†Ankara.

Turkey and the United States will stay together as part of the US-led coalition seeking to defeat Daesh, he added.



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