Vladimir Putin and Oliver Stone: The Neocons Are Dangerous to the United States

Neocon Michael Ledeen: “Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our own society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema to politics and the law.”

Oliver Stone: “I fear that the Neoconservative element as being so hungry to make their point [and] to win their case that it’s dangerous.”

…by Jonas E. Alexis

 

Oliver Stone’s twenty-hour interview with Vladimir Putin will indeed open your eyes. First of all, one we must congratulate Stone for this timely dialogue important discussion. Stone, as you can recall from the 1990s, used to be a staunch radical. In fact, Stone wanted total revolution in movies back then. He said:

“I think America has to bleed. I think the corpses have to pile up. I think American boys have to die again. Let the mothers weep and mourn.”[1]

Stone also said:

“I believe in [Jim] Morrison’s incantations. Break on through. Kill the pigs. Destroy. Loot. Fuck your mother. All that shit. Anything goes. Anything.”[2]

Natural Born Killers, which came out in 1994, was essentially a classic representation of that statement. But Stone seemed to have had a change of heart over the years—at least when it comes to foreign policy. If he is worrying that a nuclear war with Russia isn’t good, then “anything goes” isn’t good anymore.

We certainly welcome anyone who rejects what Nietzsche would have called a Dionysian impulse and embraces docility and reason. Stone has been doing some good over the past two years, and we hope that he keeps his worldview within the bound of reason.

During his recent interview with Putin, he agrees that the Neoconservatives in America are dangerous. “I fear that the Neoconservative element as being so hungry to make their point [and] to win their case that it’s dangerous,” he said. To which Putin replied, “I fear them too.”

This is a historical point, for we know that the Neoconservatives are always thirsty for fresh blood around the world. They are always looking for innocent men, women and children to kill at the altar of “democracy” and “freedom.” Don’t believe me? Take it from Jewish Neocon Michael Ledeen:

“Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our own society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema to politics and the law.”[3]

The “old order” in that sense means the moral and political order. From Socrates and all the way to Immanuel Kant, the universe has always been viewed as logo-centric. As we shall see at the end this season, Darwin changed that “logo-centricity” and turned the moral universe into “survival of the fittest,” which is incompatible with the moral order.

Darwin’s project inexorably showed that one cannot abandon or dismiss the moral order or practical reason and remain rational. The Neoconservatives in particularl have deliberately rejected practical reason in their worldview. As E. Michael Jones has shown quite convincingly, they have inevitably become revolutionaries.[4]

This is one reason why they have resolutely refused to submit their appetite to docility and morality. And this is one reason why they have been looking for blood everywhere. Jewish Neocon Jonah Goldberg essentially confirms this point. He said:

“Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.”[5]

Well, the United States did exactly that in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Chile, Honduras, El Salvador, Japan, Yemen, Guatemala, Iran, Niger, etc., etc.[6] Many of these covert and diabolical activities in those countries were spearheaded by the Neoconservatives, who think that perpetual wars are good for America. For example, there is no doubt that the war in Iraq was a Neocon coup. As Flaming Jewish Zionist Thomas Friedman of the New York Times acknowledged back in 2003, the plan for war in Iraq

“was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Elliott Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history.

“They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion of morality and force, human rights and grit. The philosophical underpinnings of the Washington neoconservatives are the writings of Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke.”[7]

So, both Putin and Stone have good reasons to keep an eye on the Neocons, whose grandparents were none other than Trotskyites and Leninists. Neoconservative luminary Francis Fukuyama of Stanford (formerly of Johns Hopkins) himself compares the Neoconservative movement to Leninism. Neoconservatism, according to Fukuyama, is the reincarnation to some extent of both Leninism and Bolshevism.[8]

Fukuyama’s observation makes sense when even Irving Kristol proudly admitted that the “honor I most prized was the fact that I was a member in good standing of the [Trotskyist] Young People’s Socialist League (Fourth International).”[9]

Those Trotskyists and Neo-Bolsheviks are desperately attempting to annihilate much of the Middle East, including in Syria at this present moment. This is one reason why these people have been in cahoots with terrorist cells in the region. Russia, of course, is not letting them have their cake and eat it too. Russia is forcing them to taste their own bitter medicine, and they are realizing that it ain’t that tasty. This is one reason why they hate Vladimir Putin.


[1] Quoted in Michael Medved, Hollywood vs. America (New York: HarperCollins, 1992), 217.

[2] Ibid., 313.

[3] Quoted in John Laughland, “Flirting with Fascism,” American Conservative, June 30, 2003.

[4] E. Michael Jones, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and Its Impact on World History (South Bend: Fidelity Press, 2008).

[5] Conor Friedersdorf, “The Real Radicals of the Iraq War: Its Proponents,” Atlantic, March 6, 2013.

[6] See for example Stephen Kinzer, Overthrow: America’s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq (New York: Times Books, 2006); All the Shah’s Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror (Hoboken, NJ: John Wiley & Sons, 2003 and 2008). The Iraq war alone, as we have shown elsewhere, will cost the United States at least six trillion dollars.

[7] Ari Shavit, “White Man’s Burden,” Haaretz, April 5, 2003.

[8] Francis Fukuyama, “After Neoconservatism,” NY Times, February 19, 2006.

[9] Stephen Halper and Jonathan Clarke, America Alone: The Neo-Conservatives and the Global Order (New York: Cambridge University Press, 2004), 43.

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6 Responses to "Vladimir Putin and Oliver Stone: The Neocons Are Dangerous to the United States"

  1. largraf  June 23, 2017 at 1:45 am

    And just above the Neocons are the Elite Ruling Cabal, the world’s richest families and bankers and power mongers. But you won’t hear about them in the News.

  2. Chris Paul  June 22, 2017 at 12:08 am

    Jonas Alexis is on a roll. Scholarly, annotated and clear in outline. This stuff is irrefutable.

  3. Eduardo  June 21, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    America’s envy and longing for a decent statesman like Putin shows the true state of the American mind: Helpless and afraid – of their own future and the last judgement they preach – while pretending to have religious Patriotic Statesmen filling their Zionist pits.

  4. ayelyahbenjamin  June 21, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    timing….The Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty signed 1972 ……in force until June 2002 , 8 months after 9/11 the United States withdrew from the treaty…..running to a set timeline

  5. Garry Compton  June 21, 2017 at 8:52 am

    What the Americans fail to understand is that President Putin – IS the best George Washington – a new country could ever wish for in these times – the Russian Federation. My current friends and wife were eating dog food in the 90s with No jobs and only themselves to rely on while the Russian and western Oligarchs raped the country – literally. If the CCCP did one thing – it was to teach dependency for one another and the camaraderie is unsurpassed even today. Stones’ { our generation} generation has respect for a craftsman, statesman, patriots, elders and many other moral/normal institutions and he/we call it like we see it. – OK – you can delete my post now – I feel better !

    • Eduardo  June 21, 2017 at 5:44 pm

      Gary, what Americans also fail to understand is that the swamp stench has numbed Washington , DC, America and the whole world. The majority Americans still fail to understand to be part of a world community and always have been dwelling in superiority. They are not the leader of nations in the world. Never were. They became the tyrant fighting truth and humanity itself – long ago. USA a numbed down tool of false glory, false Gods and treachery to its own people and others far away. A country, since generations run by war international criminals under the cloak of American freedom and democracy. This is the ugly truth America does not see, does not want to see.
      What WE Gary fail to understand is that the truth is out there now for all to see, experience and act accordingly but we still seem to look the other way or argue our lives away with our brothers of the sane mind. Apathy kills not only others. Eventually it will creep up on us.
      Hate your neighbour more then yourself might overcome ones own depression but will not bring peace. Not to Washington, DC and American society or the world.

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