Las Vegas Massacre Analysis

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I am of the opinion that we will never know the real details of the Las Vegas Massacre, that we will never know how many shooters were involved, what weapons they used, where they were located, etc etc.

Why? For the simple reason that the FBI has not and will not conduct a proper investigation, furthermore, they will obstruct and derail any legitimate investigations the LVMPD will attempt.

The morning after the shooting, the bodies of the victims have been removed but the sheer amount of detritus left behind is plain to see, and all of this stuff is evidence, all of it should be photographed in situ then tagged, bagged and collected for later forensic analysis.

The infamous image posted on Liveleak showing the aftermath of the shooting, complete with corpses. It is plain to see that this is a huge crime scene with a colossal amount of evidence to be collected, studied and analysed.

An example of a fired bullet recovered from a crime scene in order to be forensically analysed. There must have been hundreds of bullets to be recovered in Las Vegas, but why have we not been shown a single one?

FBI agents strolling round the crime scene in Las Vegas, this hardly looks like a thorough forensic crime scene analysis.

So in the absence of a proper investigation, just what do we have to guide us towards forming at least a viable hypothesis of the real events in Las Vegas?

Precious little, but one piece of analysis work we do have to work with is an excellent piece of Forensic Audio Analysis that I previously wrote about:

Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas Massacre

The map diagram below is based on this Forensic Audio Analysis, possible locations for shooters have been marked in yellow:

Here I have marked on the map the three most likely positions for a shooter to have fired from and designated them A, B and C:

I discounted the positions south of the venue as they do not offer a clear field of fire, being blocked by the stage. I also discounted the fuel tanks due east as they offer only a restricted field of fire.

The fuel tanks at McCarran after the shooting, closed off as a crime scene because they were allegedly hit by bullets fired from the Mandalay Bay.

Looking north from the front of the stage, the three positions are clearly visible:

Position A – Corner of Hotel

An example of a proper crime scene after forensic analysis – every piece of evidence has been marked with a yellow marker, this is what should have been done at the Route 91 Festival grounds.

There are a couple of reasons why, after further thought, I don’t think this was one of the gun positions. Firstly, that obelisk is in the way, and secondly, when Jason Aldean and his band ran off stage, they ran to the left of the stage, which would be towards the Mandalay Bay and Luxor; I doubt anyone would run towards the sound of gunfire, far more likely they ran in the opposite direction from where they heard the gunfire coming from. If someone did fire from this location, that obelisk would be pockmarked with bullet strikes from stray rounds, perhaps someone who happens to be passing by the Strip in the near future can take a look at the upper half of the obelisk on the side facing the Luxor and see if there are bullet holes in it.

This is as close to the corner of the hotel as I could get in Google Earth and there is not getting around it – that obelisk is right in the middle of the target, a shooter in this position could only hit a small part of the crowd, as illustrated by the arc of fire I have drawn on the image.

Position B – Elevated Billboard

This position is due north of the concert venue and offers a clear, unobstructed field of fire from an elevation of roughly 30 feet. The platform of the elevated billboard offers a suitable location to place a bipod mounted machine gun with the shooter lying prone on the platform.

This is the view from the front of the stage looking north, the billboard is clearly visible.

Zoomed in as much as Google Earth will allow, the clear, unobstructed field of fire is obvious:

The billboard is next to both an ARCO filling station and an AMPM convenience store, both of which are open 24/7 according to the online info. This means that customers at either would have been within feet of the shooter on the billboard platform. Therefore one has to wonder if the store and the filling station were closed at the time of the shooting. If this was the case, then it strongly suggests the billboard was indeed a shooting position and the businesses were closed in order to keep people away who would have witnessed clearly the gunfire coming from that position.

Position C – Tropicaire Apartments

Tropicaire Apartments
93 E Reno Ave, Las Vegas, NV 89119

https://www.apartments.com/tropicaire-apartments-las-vegas-nv/etcx5vn/

This is a low-rent pretty seamy looking set of small apartments. The property changed hands in July, 2016 for 1.25 million USD, according to this site:

https://www.redfin.com/NV/Las-Vegas/93-E-Reno-Ave-89119/home/29516162

Google Streetview does not allow you to navigate to the exact corner of the building we are interested in, but I have marked it on the closest view available:

Looking at the apartment building from above, we see it is symmetrical:

This view from E.Reno Ave is sadly obscured by trees, but I have drawn on a green box that shows the front of the building facing the Route 91 festival.

This view shows that there would be a clear field of fire as there is nothing in the way other than flat, open parking lots:

This map view shows the field of fire:

View from point X back along the line of sight to the Tropicaire:

The second image above is an enlarged, zoomed-in view and as you can see, there are two red painted doors right at the corner of the building where we suspect a shooter may have been located.

If a proper forensic investigation was carried out, with every bullet strike located, marked and noted, then the oval pattern of the ‘beaten zone’ of fire from each gun would be clearly seen and the location it fired from pinpointed.

I strongly suspect that the shooters used belt-fed machine guns, such as these:

M240/FN MAG in 7.62×51 NATO, with it’s smaller M249/Minimi sibling in 5.56×45 behind it:

The M240 can also be mounted on a tripod:

 

Russian PKM equivalent in 7.62x54R, also can be mounted on a tripod:

One little clue that might indicate a tripod mounted machine gun was fired from inside a room at the Tropicaire apartments is that fact that one of the guns heard firing on the audio recordings has a distinct echo – is this echo caused by the fact the gun was inside an apartment, firign through a window or doorway?

This brief analysis is not intended as anything other than a speculative look at a possible scenario and as I stated at the beginning, we will probably never know the real events as there is no proper investigation nor analysis being done. The evidence we need to be more certain about what happened is simply not forthcoming and almost certainly never will be.

View the full Las Vegas Massacre Gallery of Images Here

 

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Ian Greenhalgh

Ian Greenhalgh is a photographer and historian with a particular interest in military history and the real causes of conflicts.

His studies in history and background in the media industry have given him a keen insight into the use of mass media as a creator of conflict in the modern world.

His favored areas of study include state sponsored terrorism, media manufactured reality and the role of intelligence services in manipulation of populations and the perception of events.

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  1. According to a video uploaded on youtube, there seemed to be a helicopter involved in the shooting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xfrxoGvWRU I can’t seem to find evidence of a logical reason why Stephen Paddock should suddenly want to kill people visiting a concert. His profile doesn’t seem to fit the crime. Sheriff Lombardo admitted that they lied about the check-in date. He actually checked in on the 25th September! If the “investigators” find it necessary to even lie about the day he checked in, at least in the beginning, then what else are they lying about? Another problem is that there weren’t enough bullet shells in Paddock’s hotel room, so he couldn’t have fired all the shots.

  2. We, the US population, are so brain dead from this repetitous pattern. We do not expect any arrests, nor do we care. It’s business as usual.
    “Hey buddy”. Yeah? “What’s todays special”? Fear. We got the best fear in town. “That’s great. I’ll have two fears to go”. OK mister, 2 to go. You want gravy on your fears?
    How much money does something like this generate?

  3. Hello Ian,

    You’re doing a great job with this LV subject. What’ll preoccupy you next is the direct energy weapons used in the California fires and their Agenda 21 connection.

    DJ C

  4. Hello Ian,

    You doing a great job with this LV subject. What’ll preoccupy you next is the direct energy weapons used in the California fires and their Agenda 21 connection.

    DJC

  5. Ian,
    I’m afraid you pegged this one correctly in your original VT post hours after the “event” where you stated no one died.

    Notice the trend of FBI taking jurisdiction and NOT investigating this latest craze of Falsies? Just as the others, Vegas too was a drill where not a soul died. Nada, zilch, zero. It was staged most likely using a blend of crisis actors mixed with real concert goers for affect — loads of vids show people (actors) staging and starting to run in panic PRIOR to the first gunshots ringing. The FBI apparently didn’t wipe ALL smartphone vids lol. Also, NO death certs, proof of bodies/funerals, ambulances with victims, blood-soaked grounds, footage of bullets blasting people OR walls/ground/concrete, and not a single “victim” died from wounds while in the hospital. Deaths stood at 58 from the get-go though many supposedly wounded by heavy fire yet ALL survived, limbs in tact?? And the censorship is ramped up on virtually anything deviating from the narrative. Boom.

    Waddles & quacks like a duck…feathers & all.
    Ahhh…If only sheep ate duck 😉

    • Yeh , I was thinking the actor insiders who are lying dead , my have been given heavy sedative / pills to take at the end of event so they can appear to be stone dead then are taken away to wakeup in a bed somewhere the next morning for party drinks etc . Anythings possible after Sandyhook .

  6. (pasting error after too long a comment , sorry )
    Just a few thoughts . Like JFK , 9/11 the MSM circus goes on , nothing can really be understood by the layman without the historical philosophical context that gives meaning and direction to these events ; meaning which DC is symbolically embedded with .

  7. Thats apart from that the usual MSM chaos agitprop gun control etc . Never a blackmen doing the shooting (which we would be natural from MSM agitprop ) as this would fit with the white supremacist narrative of evil Trump and love MC . And when I think about it doing one of these FF also prevents a genuine (un-staged) one taking place as those with this on their minds get catharsis , whilst others thinking in this direction feel some shame .
    Just a few thoughts . Like JFK , 9/11 the MSM circus goes on , nothing can really be understood

  8. Thanks for this tedious essential work Mr Greenhalgh to frame the context of event .
    Personally I am surprised to see an obelisk right next to the event . Can this be a mere coincidence ?
    And what is the offical meaning of the gigantic obelisk in Washington ? To me this is the Illuminati making a big statement : this is what we worship , phallic = fertility = nature = “good” & “bad” = all human behaviours = Illuminati = God we will control all , good and bad . The Illuminati is the top of the pyramid that set policy for the Masonic order . Every tier only gets the information they need to know , not the strategy .

    Perhaps this event real or staged is also a little warning to the creatures in Congress . Perhaps they got a personal not under the door , So thankful not your daughter/son (with name ) . All notes a little different so they can gossip and tremble amongst . Or would they leave evidence ? Anyway the message is clear : Toe the Line .

    • The obelisk outside the Luxor might be significant or it might not, I have wondered about it. As you say, obelisks are symbols and date right back to the ancient Egyptian mystery schools where the freemasons also originate.

  9. The MSM is quick to counter the obvious talking points of this False Flag. Highly imaginative and amusing. As with Boston, 9/11, Oklahoma, Sandy Hookl the narrative falls apart as facts are documented. Real people are being murdered to keep the lies valid. Navy Seals, Police, Fire-fighters, law abiding citizens; all are silenced to protect the lies and misinformation.

  10. Ian… you have done a great deal of work. Now it is time to combine it all. Google Maps, interpolated victim locations to plot the Beaten Zone(s) and pull everything into a 3D model. This model can be ehnanced by annimation and sound tracks from the thousands of videos to synchronize the parts into a whole. The tools are available to everyone. However, the synergy of combining them is not apparent to most. If you would like to know my suggestions please email me.

    • Some observations:
      -Pos. A: While the field of fire from the corner of the hotel is not only limited by the needle, there is no place for a tripod and a shooter. However, if you look at the bottom of the photo you will see a red stair that could be providing access to the corner of the higher roof. A portable ladder could provide access. This position opens the field of fire and provides room for a tripod and a shooter in the prone position.
      – Pos. B: The billboard is an excellent sniper perch providing a quick getaway down the ladder. However, the report of the weapon will be detected. Is it possible for a suppressor to hold up for 50-60 rounds?
      – Pos. C: The field of fire from the appartments is limited by the spectator bleachers.
      However, if you overlay field of visions B & C and add to the first two layers the modified field of vision from the hotel roof corner next to the red stairs, you will realize that all 3 positions cover almost all of the music venue’s grounds. Witnesses said there was more than one shooter.
      Hope this helps.

    • I wondered about the issues with that rooftop, but I concluded a step ladder or similar would solve the problem.

      The bleachers shown in Google weren’t there on the night of the shooting, I checked that but forgot to mention it.

      A suppressor will hold out for a few hundred rounds, but will then require new baffles.

    • Yep, those SAME rock-hard “obelisks” are long-hung-firmly “erect” in Vatican City, (Spiritual hub), City of London (Financial hub), and D.C. (military hub) completing their dark Pyramid of Power. Dr James has doc’d this many a time here on VT, as have countless other’s outside of mainstream BS.

      These proudly sported obelisks are so IN-OUR-FACE they’d make a nun blush… and Lucifer shine in all his glory….so to speak 😉

  11. Psychic Agents of IDF , the FBI is on the Paylist of Mossad and pax americana is controled by pax jewdeica and so you can spinning around the witnesses and facts, non will help . FBI is there to cover the criminal cabals as long as there is even one free thinking american the FBI will help spreading fear !

  12. first of all, Mike Adams’ “Forensic acoustic proof of SECOND shooter in the Las Vegas massacre” hardly resembles anything that could be called “scientific” or “forensic” in my opinion – what kind of scientific forensic study requires only 3 hours of ones time during a single afternoon?

    “[…] that we will never know how many shooters were involved, what weapons they used, where they were located, etc etc.”

    why not? all one needs to do, as Mike said (but failed to do himself before trumpeting his “proof” of a second shooter all over the web), is plot the points of the witness videos on a map and calculate distances and delay times between bullet impacts and muzzle reports … and here’s one result where i did exactly that…

    Las Vegas Shooting 1-Oct-2017: An acoustic analysis and possibly some answers for the victims
    https://12bytes.org/investigations/las-vegas-shooting-1-oct-2017-an-acoustic-analysis-and-possibly-some-answers-for-the-victims

  13. The picture of the killing ground includes what looks like corpses, but not a single EMT or cop in sight, and not even one emergency vehicle. There is one good thing about the LV event. There are so many holes in the official story that even dumbed down, complacent, apathetic, insouciant Americans can see things don’t add up. Not that that makes much difference to TPTB. They will get the “quantum surveillance state” they want out of this even if the public howls in protest. I recall that some 95% of the public disapproved of bank bailouts in 2008/2009. But the banks got a $16 Trillion bailout, and the bankers refused to say who got what. https://www.forbes.com/sites/traceygreenstein/2011/09/20/the-feds-16-trillion-bailouts-under-reported/#6e59c1726b00

  14. Well done, Ian. The “91” Cover-Up Perps are almost as good if not better than the 9/11 Cover-Up Perps. “91” witnesses are already dying and/or being murdered — after the event (similar to the JFK event in 1963).

    For example, a 28YO Las Vegas “91” event witness, Kymberley Suchomel, a survivor of the Las Vegas shooting (who was NOT wounded or otherwise injured and who claimed there were multiple gunmen involved in the shooting) was found dead in her home under suspicious circumstances. Her death is still under investigation.

    If or Since the “91” event was/is a False Flag, we can expect that the Cover-Up Perps have done a ‘good’ job — with an orgy of evidence and many red herrings. Beware…

  15. The answers is really easy to find. You take a little stick and place it where the hundreds of rounds supposedly landed. It will tell you in minutes where the shooter/es was/were.

    • H77: As Ian says, FBI & LVPD are NOT making any attempt at a good forensic investigation. FBI & LVPD are following virtually NONE of the usual forensic protocols. Sad. 😉

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