… from Russia Today, Moscow
[ Editor’s Note: This is a risky operation, sending in a Syrian commando team to sift through the wreckage of the SU-25 lost yesterday by a manpad of unknown origin.
The HTS jihadis would put everything they could into killing or capturing this team. Sure, the team would have a lot of air support; but the best kind, with combat helicopters, would add another layer of risk for getting caught in manpad ambushes themselves.
It seems that being able to prove where the manpad came from has been voted a top Syrian-Russian priority that would justify risking the commando team.
While the US can claim it has not supplied manpads to Syrian proxies, the dodge there is they could easily have come from Saudi Arabia or any of the Gulf State allies, and of course Turkey.
Russia sees the introduction of these into the Idlib battle space, which has made a mockery of being a ceasefire zone, a red line, but needs to know exactly where they came from to make a major incident over it.
Turkey has guaranteed nothing in Idlib other than to not impede the jihadi supply lines. With “allies” like this, who needs enemies?
What good does it do to point that out, when both Russia and Iran are turning a blind eye, as they have overlapping “other issues” with Turkey that they do not want upset. That gives cover for the US and the Gulf States for doing the same… Jim W. Dean ]
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– First published … February 04, 2018 –
The Russian warplane was downed by a shoulder-fired anti-aircraft rocket, according to the Russian defense ministry. Moscow is very interested in establishing how exactly the weapon system got into the hands of the militant group responsible for attack, Russian MP Vikotor Volodarsky told RIA Novosti.
The group that had the MANPAD has been destroyed by the Russian Air Force. Now the Syrian commandos are working on the ground. If they find elements of that launcher, we could trace its serial number and establish its origin to the factory in a few days, find out how it got there,” the Russian MP said. He added Russian planes are providing air support to the Syrian troops.
Earlier the US asserted that it did not provide the MANPAD to the group which shot down the Russian plane.
“The United States have not provided any of its allied forces in Syria with anti-aircraft weapons,” Pentagon spokesman Maj. Adrian J.T. Rankine-Galloway told TASS.
The incident happened in a part of Idlib governorate controlled by the jihadist group previously known as Al-Nusra Front, according to the Russian military.
Here are the last moments of the ground fight. The pilot fount a good fighting position with some large boulders but when taking fire from 360 degrees, you are toast. He had one empty, and two half full clips in the jihadi photo of the gun.
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Russia should STEAL (in other words buy) US equipment and have some “actors” down Israeli or US planes. That is called Pay Back.
““The United States have not provided any of its allied forces in Syria with anti-aircraft weapons,” Pentagon spokesman Maj. Adrian J.T. Rankine-Galloway told TASS.”
A translation is in order – “US provided anti-aircraft weapons to Ali the Camel Driver who happened to be passing through Idlib. Business is Business.”
last seconds of life of our pilot….
Sorry for the lose of your countryman. I did not look at the video of his death out of respect for his family.
He made the best of a bad situation. Getting caught by these guys is never an option.
Harry – on this video there’s no blood or corpses. The video was made by a terrorist when they tried to seize the pilot. Shouts, gun-shots and 2 grenade blows, that used the pilot.
Thanks for condolences.
In Afghanistan the US formed Al Queada and gave it and the Taliban man pads which upped the numbers of lost Russian aircraft leading to Russia’s departure. This is serious stuff.
The responce to the downing of the SU-25 was swift and decisive. Mess with the Bull and you get the horns axiom also applies to Bears and their claws.
This is excellent work but frankly they should bull doze every gram of the debris into a container and ship it pronto back to Russia for forensic examination. It is very difficult to do this on the ground under possible fire and the effects of the elements.
What if Putin can prove the U.S. was responsible for this? Will that be the straw which broke the camel’s back? Putin has demonstrated enormous patience with the international criminal outlaws of the U.S. which are in Syria totally illegally with zero permission from Assad. Russia is there totally legally with permission of Assad. How about WWIII over this incident?
Observe the outlaw government of the U.S. can’t even run a railroad without having about an accident every week killing innocent passengers. How do you think they will fare in WW III? Remember the collision of a civilian freighter with a U.S. Navy ship likely due to the crew watching porn on deck but covered up in any official reports. How can the U.S. go down the drain in so many ways but still be top dog in a nuclear war? How about the fake nuclear attack alarm from Hawaii because the Governor couldn’t remember the password! By the way it was reported the second railroad accident was due to AmTrac being on the WRONG track! Obviously something is very wrong in Dodge isn’t it? Most Americans can’t be bothered with any of this; all they care about is watching a sham football business enterprise in Minnesota which outcome is fixed by gambling interests. It has nothing to do with so called “sports”.
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