Rebuttal: Why Dr. Suzanne Humphries May Kill Your Baby

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 Editor’s note:  VT fights phony gas attacks in Syria, the Israel lie machine in Washington and still, from time to time, the “anti-vacc” fraudsters sneak in.
Simply put, the anti-vacc movement is a pure fraud, built on lies and deception and “manned” by the same kind of scum we find in Washington, London and Tel Aviv.
Polio, measles and tetanus are deadly and the quacks who peddle homeopathic medicine are, for the most part, either totally nuts or totally nuts.
A recent piece on a “Dr” Suzanne Humphries, is an odd one.  I have read what she has to say and with my comic book education in human medicine, she seems to be making it all up.
I am not  the only one that picked that up.  There is a reason why 99.99% of licensed pediatricians don’t agree with her.
I spent years making sure children in the “shithole” countries were vaccinated for measles, polio and other diseases.  My own puny efforts saved thousands of lives.  Today, simply put, anti-vacc fraudsters are killing kids.  I consider them terrorists.g

Why Dr Suzanne Humphries, an anti-vaccine activist, is lying to you about measles

Dr Suzanne Humphries, a nephrologist-turned-homeopath, is a prominent voice in the anti-vaccine movement. Her 2013 book “Dissolving Illustions” was recommended to me by a homeopath when I had a baby and was unsure about the vaccine debate. However, the more I examined Dr Humphries’ claims and consulted the original studies she cited throughout her book, the more disappointed I became. Her claims are often misleading and at times outright deceptive. This post outlines the types of questionable tactics she uses to support her claims by examining the measles chapter of her book.

Claim #1: Measles deaths are negligible

To start, Dr Humphries belabors the fact that measles deaths declined prior the introduction of the measles vaccine and implies that the vaccine was therefore unnecessary. While measles case-fatality rates were indeed falling in high income countries like the US and UK from the 1900s until the 1960s due to improvements in living conditions and medical care, the disease incidenceremained virtually unchanged until the introduction of the vaccine. In fact, almost everyone caught measles before the age of 15 at the time. The vaccine brought about a more than 90% reduction in disease incidence in a matter of a few years:

Measles Cases in the United States (Data Source)
Measles Notifications in England and Wales (Data Source)

Looking at rates of disease incidence — rather than mortality, as Dr Humphries does in her book — is important due to possible long term complications in survivors. Before the introduction of the measles vaccine in the US in the 1960s, for example, there were 4 000 cases of measles encephalitis a year (many of which led to irreversible neurological complications such as blindness, deafness and mental disability), 150 000 cases of respiratory complications a year, and 48 000 measles-related hospitalizations per year (which placed huge financial and emotional burdens on families).

If we consider that nutrition and living conditions were not very terribly different in the 1960s compared to today, and take an average of 500 measles deaths a year from that period, the measles vaccine possibly prevented up to 23 500 measles deaths from 1968 until 2014 in the US alone.

Furthermore, it is pity that Dr Humphries does not discuss at all the dramatic role the measles vaccine played in reducing infant mortality and blindness in developing nations in Africa and Asia.


Claim #2: Measles is a mild disease

Next, Dr Humphries claims that measles is at best a mild disease and nothing to fear. This may be true in many cases. However, as a homeopath, Dr Humphries may not be professionally inclined to see serious measles cases. As soon as measles complications do arise (eg such as coma or encephalitis) a sensible parent would rush their child off to hospital for treatment (which may involve antibiotics, an IV drip and a range of medical interventions to try and save the child’s life). If the child dies or develops complications in hospital such a hearing impairment or brain damage it is easy for the homeopath to retrospectively lay the blame for death or disability on “medical interventions”.

Since homeopaths are by default not equipped to see life-threatening cases it is unfortunate when some presumptuously conclude that 1) measles is always a mild disease and that 2) when death or complications do occur, medical interventions are to “blame”. We should call this the “naturopaths-do-n0t-treat-serious-cases” fallacy:

Ask any physician who treated measles cases in the 1960s and they may paint a very different picture of the disease.

The Netherlands provides fascinating case studies on measles as it is a country with one of the highest living standards in the world, yet it has a “Bible Belt” that does not vaccinate. During a 2004/2005 measles outbreak with 3292 reported cases (94% of which were unvaccinated), 3 children died, 157 had to be hospitalized and 519 had complications (5 of which involved encephalitis). The study pointed out that “even in a wealthy country, measles is not just a mild childhood disease but can cause severe complications and even death.” The outbreak was unable to spread to areas with high vaccination coverage, indicating that these deaths and complications may have been avoided with sufficient vaccination coverage.


Claim #3: The measles vaccine causes illness

Next, Dr Humphries asserts,

A study from 1967 revealed that the vaccine could cause pneumonia as well as encephalopathy (p 347).

However, the 1967 study in question reviewed the inactivated measles vaccine (used on roughly 900,000 persons from 1963 until 1967) which was found to be ineffective and was replaced by the live measles vaccine from 1968 onward. The study has no bearing on the present-day immunization schedule. Numerous ramblings throughout this chapter on immune systems “wrongly programmed” by vaccines and committing “original antigenic sin” only relate to the inactivated (now defunct) measles vaccine.

Dr Humphries then claims that the live measles vaccine (introduced in 1968) was also ineffective and produced a rash in about half of those injected, but links to an archived source with the complete opposite title (which I was unable to locate), “Measles Vaccine Effective in Test — Injections with Live Virus Protect 100 Per Cent of Children in Epidemics,” New York Times, September 14, 1961.”

It is well known that the live measles vaccine can lead to a mild rash and fever a few weeks after immunization, as the body reacts to the live attenuated (weakened) virus. This does not, however, mean that the measles vaccine “failed” — as Dr Humphries seems to imply above — but rather that the body is forming an appropriate and successful immune response to the attenuated virus.


Bizarrely, she alleges that this post-vaccine measles rash should in fact be counted as genuine measles to boost the number of annual notifications and prove that the vaccine is ineffective:

Given that at least 5–10% of measles vaccine result in fever and rash, then there are approx. 650–000–1,300,000 case of measles in the US per year (p 372).

What follows is a lengthy discussion on how “incomplete clearance of measles virus and deranged immune responses have a known association with chronic clinical and subclinical infection” (p 350).

This is based on the mistaken belief (possibly drawing conclusions from the 1963 inactivated measles vaccine) that the measles virus elicits an antibody-only immune response. The reality, however, is that the live measles vaccine elicits both an antibody mediated and cell-mediated immune response. This is discussed in more detail below with citations.

The rest of this section contains the following supporting citations:

a) A paper by the discredited Dr Wakefield which has been thoroughly debunked elsewhere
b) The famous Lancet paper by Dr Wakefield which was retracted due to concerns about fraud and falsification
c) A paper on delayed reflexes in newborn primates who received the thimerosal-containing Hep B vaccine, a questionable study funded by anti-vaccine activists which too has been debunked
d) Papers by Dr Stephen Walker that supposedly support Dr Wakefield’s autism claims.

However, this is what Dr Stephen Walker has repeatedly said of his own studies:

Some observers have said that the presence of the measles virus indicates a strong possibility that the measles vaccine, a possible source of the virus, could have caused the children’s autism. […] Walker says the new research does not support the connection, and he notes that the results have not even been published in a peer-reviewed journal. “Even if we showed association (between measles virus and bowel disease) and we published it in a peer-reviewed journal, the conclusion will be simply that there is measles virus in the gut of a large number of children who have regressive autism and bowel disease. End of story.

We haven’t done anything to demonstrate that the measles virus is causingautism or even causing bowel disease.


Claim #4: The measles vaccine can be crippling or deadly

Dr Humphries then reveals that “the vaccine has essentially induced cases of measles that were either benign, crippling or deadly” (p. 354) but fails to provide the context for these claims.

For the word “crippling” she cites a study that examined encephalopathy as an incredibly rare complication of the vaccine — 48 temporally related cases out of 75 million children. In fact, the study outlines various caveats and emphasises the rarity of the phenomenon:

From 1970 to 1993 in the United States, approximately 75 000 000 children received measles vaccine by age 4 years based on 83 000 000 births and an immunization rate of 90%. The 48 cases of encephalopathy probably represent underreporting to this passive system, which does not require individuals to file for compensation and requires medical documentation. However, given the generous compensation offered in this program, it is reasonable to conclude that most serious cases temporally related to a vaccination have been captured. In the absence of a specific test to determine vaccine causation, these 48 cases may include some nonvaccine cases representing background rates. Nevertheless, with a denominator of 75 000 000 vaccinees throughout 23 years, the incidence of acute encephalopathy caused by measles vaccine in this cohort can reasonably be decreased as very low.

In short, even if all cases were indeed proven to be causally linked to the vaccine, the risk of developing encephalopathy from the vaccine would amount to 48/75 000 000 or 0.00006%, and is typically related to underlying immune related disorders. Dr Humphries does not mention these figures and fails to discuss the risks of developing encephalopathy from the wild form of measles, which remains 1 out of 1000 cases or 0.1% in developed countries (higher in developing nations) and presents in otherwise healthy individuals.

For the word “deadly” she cites a study that examined the unfortunate case of a boy who died 8.5 months after the MMR vaccine. However, the study revealed severe immunodeficiency in the patient which would normally be diagnosed before 9 months of age and lead to medical exemption from vaccines with live viruses. His case was therefore extremely unusual and unfortunate:

We believe that the present report is the first to clearly demonstrate that severe neurological disease can be caused by the vaccine strain of measles virus. The risk of such a serious adverse event must be balanced by the rarity of such an event and the overwhelming evidence supporting the efficacy of the vaccine in reducing the morbidity and mortality associated with measles. It is significant that our patient was found to suffer from a profound deficiency of CD8 cells as well as dysgammaglobulinemia, which were not suspected clinically at the time of vaccination.

Most significant primary immunodeficiency states in children will be detected before the age of MMR vaccination, and for such children live virus vaccines should be avoided.

Clearly, a serious outcome such as occurred for this patient is an exceedingly rare event, and this report should not lead to changes in current immunization practices.

Parents need to make an informed risk / benefit analysis

Since the wild form of measles leads to much higher complication and death rates even in high income nations, it is unclear exactly what Dr Humphries is suggesting as the alternative here. Unless a parent can successfully “hide in the herd” and guarantee that one’s child will never be exposed to measles during the entire course of his or her life, the risks of death and encephalopathy from the wild form of measles are statistically thousands of times greater than that of the vaccine.

Claim 5#: Measles vaccination does not protect against all strains

On page 355 Dr Humpries claims:

Thirteen million doses of measles vaccine are injected each year. Those live viruses are attenuated, and the strains will vary from time to time in the manufacturing process, which means that immunity to one strain does not necessarily confer immunity to wild virus or to future virus.

This is incorrect. While there are 19 genotypes of measles, there is only one serotype. In other words, antibodies against one genotype will protect against all other genotypes, which is why measles immunity is typically considered lifelong. The following explanatory graph was kindly put together by an immunologist at Vaccine Nation:

Image source: Vaccine Nation

Claim #6: Antibodies are useless

Next, Dr Humphries launches into a discussion on the questionable role that antibodies play in the body’s immune response, implying that vaccines (which stimulate antibody production) are in fact useless:

Scientists were surprised when they learned that individuals with a deficit in antibody production recovered from measles just as well as normal antibody producers. […] Therefore the antibody part of immunity is not at all necessary for the natural recovery from measles (p 364).

And:

People without antibodies can be completely protected from clinical illness by cellular immunity. Therefore antibody is a mere surrogate that has questionable significance (p 389).

While it is true that other immune mechanisms kick into place when an individual suffers from compromised antibody production, this does not mean that antibodies are useless in otherwise healthy individuals. The study she cites in fact concludes:

Although our findings support a limited role for humoral immunity in the control of replicating virus in measles virus-naive hosts, antibody can certainly mediate protection against measles virus infection.

Furthermore, since the measles vaccine contains a live (albeit weakened) virus, it elicits a full adaptive immune response, including the complex interactions between antibody-mediated (humoral) and cell-mediated (cellular) immunity. Simply because physicians typically use antibody count as a measure of immunity does not mean that vaccine responses are limited to antibody production only. The role of cell-mediated immunity in immune responses to the measles vaccine has been extensively measured in studies like this one. See section #9 below for a more detailed discussion on this matter.


Claim #7: Antibodies are harmful

Next, Dr Humphries goes on to say that antibodies are not only useless, but in fact harmful:

It is a little-known fact that any antibody, even a vaccine-induced one, can render a person more vulnerable to disease (p 366).

And:

Some antibodies increase the ability of viruses to infect their target cells. This phenomenon is called antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) of infection (p 367).

This may sound alarming but she fails to mention that the “ADE phenomenon” described above is incredibly rare and has only been observed in relation to the particular characteristics of the dengue fever virus and HIV virus. It is not a phenomenon that relates to the viruses we currently vaccinate against — measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, rotavirus and influenza.


Claim #8: The measles vaccine was not responsible for the dramatic decline in measles cases

The data clearly shows that the introduction of the measles vaccine brought with it a tremendous (98%) drop in measles cases in the United States over the course of a few years.

This data does not sit well with Dr Humphries. She argues that, since vaccination coverage was only 50–60% in 1968, the year the live measles vaccine was introduced, the measles vaccine could not have had any effect. While it is true that an 80–90% immunization level is needed to maintain the phenomenon of “herd immunity”, it is obvious that even a moderate vaccination uptake would have made a significant dent in the disease’s incidence and transmission rates.

Dr Humphries then offers these alternative theories for the dramatic decline in measles notifications in the 1960s:

a) Doctors changed their diagnostic criteria. In other words, Dr Humphries complains that “there are at least 10 other infections that clinically resemble measles”. Her assertions implies that 1) physicians in the 1960s who were intimately familiar with measles suddenly became incompetent at diagnosing it from one year to the next, and / or 2) all healthcare workers were wrapped up in a global conspiracy to “hide” disease notifications and give the vaccine a semblance of effectiveness where there was none. This theory requires the suspension of disbelief. Since measles is highly contagious, it is unfathomable that all physicians would be careless enough to dismiss genuine measles as “some other rash” merely on the basis of population-wide vaccination rates.

b) Use of gamma globulin (passive antibody) as a treatment for measles to eliminate rashes. This, however, is no longer in use since 1968.

c) The incidence was already on a decline. Like smallpox, she claims, the disease was “slowly burning out”.

I don’t know about you, but this curve definitely does not look like a disease slowing burning out. It looks like a massive landslide:

Measles cases in the United States (Source)

See more graphs on disease incidence and vaccine dates here.


Claim #9: Rashless measles leads to degenerative disease

Next, Dr Humphries speculates that measles antibodies (derived from vaccines) interfere with a cell-mediated immune responses to the wild virus, leading to chronic measles infection and eventually immune related disorders later on in life:

Acute natural infection and presumably even vaccination during a time when measles-specific antibody is present may induce a longterm suppressive effect on measles immune response. The presence of such antibodies at the time of infection interferes with the cellular immunological response to measles virus, especially with the development of specific cell-mediated immunity […] Intracellular measles virus may then survive the acute infection and later cause diseases which develop in adulthood.(p 383).

Her proof rests on a 1985 Lancer paper entitled “Measles Virus Infection without Rash in Childhood is Related to Disease in Adult Life”. This is a frequently misquoted paper because it is access restricted and has an obscure sounding abstract. After paying the $ 35.00 to access the full report, I realized that it did not study the effects of measles vaccination at all. It was a historical study done on individuals born in Copenhagen and Gentofte in the pre-vaccination era — specifically 1941 and 1947 onwards. It found that individuals who had contracted the wild form of measles (measured via antibody levels later on in life), without manifesting a rash (roughly 9% of the population), had a higher incidence of degenerative diseases later on in life.

The study speculates that a reason for the absence of rash may have been treatment of measles with immune serum globulin (which is essentially an injection of passive measles antibodies). The author hypothesizes that an injection of passive antibodies at the time of measles infection may interfere with the body’s full immune response to the virus, leading to latent health problems.

In the end, the study recommends aborting immune serum globulin as a form of measles treatment (which is no longer in use today) and using well-timed measles vaccination to reduce the incidence of degenerative disease:

Measles can be controlled by large-scale vaccination, and where this is employed successfully the frequency of non-measles associated disease should be considerably reduced.

Dr Humphries completely misrepresents the study. She concludes somewhat simplistically that an “absence of rash” after measles vaccination signifies an “absence of cellular immune responses” to the virus which in turn leads to degenerative disease later on in life. However, contrary to the 1980s, we do not need to speculate about whether the measles vaccine stimulates cellular immunity or not — we can measure it. The measles vaccine stimulates a full adaptive immune response, involving both antibody mediated and cell-mediated immunity:

Even decades after measles immunization, both the CD4+ and CD8+ T-cell pools contain high levels of measles virus-specific memory T cells. This indicates that measles vaccination induces a long-lived T-cell memory response. (Source)

In fact, cellular immunity from the measles vaccine may even outlast antibody mediated immunity leading to long term protection:

These data suggest that cellular responses to measles virus may be better sustained than antibody titers after vaccination and revaccination in some subjects. (Source)

“Rashlessness” after measles vaccination is not related to lack of cellular immunity. It is more likely related to the decreased virulence of the virus in the measles vaccine, giving the body an easier time to fight off the pathogen.

The effects of maternal antibodies on vaccine responses

There is another aspect to the 1985 Lancet paper above, and that is the possible effect of passively acquired maternal antibodies on the body’s ability to respond to the measles virus. It is interesting to note that babies receive most maternal antibodies before birth via an active transport system in the placenta. These antibodies protect the baby for several months but fade around the 6–8 month mark, depending on the amount of transplacental antibodies received. Babies are unable to absorb maternal antibodies via breast milk or colostrum into their blood stream, except in very minute amounts. Maternal antibodies in breast milk primarily protect against gastrointestinal infections and diarrheal disease, locally, in the gut. This article describes current research in the field with links to studies and sources.

Current research indicates that babies receive most of their initial antibodies via the placenta before birth

To prevent interference from latent transplacental antibodies, the measles vaccine is only given from 9 months onward. Passive antibodies decline before that age so that babies can form a successful immune response to the virus. Any hypothetical risk factors outlined in the 1985 study above are thus nullified.

Rather than leading to “deranged immune systems”, as Dr Humphries claims, present day studies repeatedly hint at beneficial immuno-stimulating properties of the live measles vaccine above and beyond protection against measles infections:

The measles vaccine activates the immune system in a non-specific way providing protection against other infections. (Source)

And:

Contrary to current assumptions, children who survive the acute phase of measles infection may have a survival advantage compared with unimmunized, uninfected children. Hence, both disease and immunization may be associated with non-specific beneficial effects, presumably due to some form of immunostimulation. (Source)


Claim #10: Breast milk offers superior protection against measles compared to the vaccine

Next, after having argued extensively that antibodies are useless (claim # 6), harmful (claim # 7), and play a role in degenerative disease (claim # 9), Dr Humphries does a full 180 and posits that the antibodies received via breast milk offer superior protection against measles infection compared to the vaccine:

Medical literature suggests that the lower risk of contracting clinical measles after being breastfed can last up to 10 years.

When Silfverdale evaluated thousands of vaccinated and unvaccinated breastfed and non-breastfed children looking at the risk of measles, breastfeeding had a far larger impact on measles risk than vaccinating. (p 389)

As discussed in the previous claim, antibodies received via breast milk typically only play a role in protecting against local gut infections. In fact, the study she cites as “proof” of her claim did not compare vaccinated versus unvaccinated children, did not claim that breastfeeding protection lasted up to 10 years and in fact concluded that breast feeding played a very minor role in protecting against measles infection compared to the vaccine:

We used logistic regression with data for 10 207 individuals from the 1970 British Cohort study. Breast-feeding data were collected at five years of age, and information on clinical measles infection, as well as socio-economic measures was collected at the age of ten years.

Breast-feeding for more than three months was negatively associated with a diagnosis of clinical measles infection after adjustment for crowding, social class, measles vaccination, parity and sex with an odds ratio (95% confidence interval) of 0.69 (0.60–0.81) compared with those who never breast-fed. Measles vaccination was highly associated with low risk for measles with: 0.14 (0.13–0.16). Breast-feeding did not notably alter measles immunization efficacy.

Immunization against measles provides effective protection against the disease. A more modest reduction in the risk of a measles diagnosis is associated with breast-feeding.

Dr Humphries then laments the fact that mothers who were vaccinated against measles transfer smaller amounts of measles antibody in their breast milk compared to mothers who were infected with the wild form of measles as a child. However, she fails to address the role the measles vaccine has played in reducing the overall circulation of the disease — from roughly 3–4 million cases a year to a present-day average of less than 100 annual cases. Thus, infants are very unlikely to come in contact with the wild form of measles in the first place. In fact, the only recent incidences of measles in the United States have been imported cases, usually by unvaccinated individuals.


Claim #11: Vitamins are all you need!

Lastly, Dr Humphries launches into a long-winded discussion on vitamin A as a miracle cure for measles:

It made no more sense to vaccinate against measles in 1963 than it does to put an infected child in a dark room instead of just giving vitamin A, which protects the retinas and the uninfected cells. (p 391)

While vitamin A has proven clinical benefits in the treatment of measles, it is far from the wonder drug that Dr Humphries claims it to be. Unfortunately, deaths and complications still occur despite widespread protocols on vitamin A therapy.

Cochrane review of various studies in the field of vitamin A therapy for measles summaries the matter thus:

Eight studies involving 2574 participants were included in this review and we found that there was no significant reduction in mortality in children receiving vitamin A. However, vitamin A megadoses (200,000 international units (IUs) on each day for two days) lowered the number of deaths from measles in hospitalized children under the age of two years.

The authors conclude that vitamin A megadoses appear effective in reducing mortality from measles in children under two years old and have few associated adverse events. There is insufficient evidence to draw conclusions regarding effectiveness in preventing pneumonia or other complications in children.

Dr Humphries then claims that the measles vaccine similarly depletes vitamin A levels in children and leads to illness, stating:

Measles vaccine has been associated with other unexpected adverse findings in long-term studies. In developing countries, the use of high-titre vaccine at 4–6 months of age was associated with an unexpectedly high mortality in girls by the age of 2 years from infectious childhood illness. (p 395)

However, this statement is completely untrue. The study in question actually compared the effectiveness of the high-titre versus standard-titre measles vaccine, using mortality rates as the comparative metric. It found that the standard-titre vaccine was simply more effective in reducing mortality rates, especially in girls:

The results from Guinea-Bissau, Senegal and Haiti, all with high background child mortality, showed an association between high dose measles vaccines and decreased survival, especially among females, while studies from The Gambia and Mexico, where there was low background infant mortality, displayed no difference in mortality. This suggests that the medium and high titre vaccines do not cause excess mortality by themselves, and have been interpreted as evidence that any high dose vaccine attributable effect on mortality is multiplicative rather than additive.

It has also been suggested that the impact of the vaccine may correspond to the delayed excess mortality reported after measles infection. However, even in areas with high mortality, medium and high titre vaccines were not associated with increased mortality between 5 and 10 months of age, when the standard group were still not immunized against measles. Since the difference is only found after the standard group have received SWS and in areas with high background mortality, the observed mortality differences may be attributable to beneficial effects of SWS vaccines, particularly for girls, which are not reproduced by the high titre vaccines.

In this context it is notable that studies in Bissau, Senegal and Haiti, have shown greater reductions in all cause mortality among recipients of standard measles vaccines, than could be explained by the prevention of acute measles deaths alone. In conclusion, there is no conclusive evidence that high titre vaccines are deleterious and it remains possible that they are just less beneficial than standard titre vaccines.

In short, Dr Humphries has resorted to the helmet-wearing-causes-paralysis fallacy again.


Conclusion

The problem is that Dr Humphries is so fervent in her belief that vaccines are evil that it ultimately “blinds” her, and leads her to become clumsy in her interpretation of studies, which in turn hurts her credibility. The more you delve into her work and consult her sources, the more you will find her guilty of:

  • Cherry-picking isolated statements from a range of studies that support her views but completely ignoring qualifying statements made by those authors and overall conclusions drawn in those studies.
  • Aiming to confuse readers by quoting 30-year-old studies on the failures of the 1963 inactivated measles vaccine (and serum gamma globulin as a form of treatment) numerous times throughout the chapter, even though both are no longer in use.
  • Ignoring data on counter studies and third world countries that are inconvenient to her claims.
  • Stripping numerous quotes off their context as an intentional means to mislead and deceive.

Vaccinate or don’t vaccinate. But please don’t base your decision on the writings of this extremist.

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48 COMMENTS

  1. You have got to be kidding !!!! I’m sorry, but this is appalling !!! I could fill 10 pages of links to hundreds of studies that would make you look like a complete imbecile. WTF is wrong with you ? THIS ARTICLE HAS ME SO ANGRY THAT I AM SHAKING AND SWEATING WITH LABORED BREATHING RIGHT NOW…I CAN”T EVEN SEE STRAIGHT……PLEASE RESIGN, RETIRE and crawl back under your mushroom. Here is just one link: https://vaxxter.com/university-of-california-admits-polio-vaccine-causes-most-polio-cases/ ……. YOU ARE DISGUSTING !!!!!!

    • The plan is to over vaccinate the population by Hook by Crook so that immune systems are become very very weak or non existant.
      When they release a man made virus upon the population then their immune system will not be able to cope and death will occur. Why do you think “Kill Bill” Gates is constantly reminding us about a massive flu pandemic that will happen.
      These feckers are engineering that pandemic…

  2. Curious why VT would dredge up an article from nearly 4 years ago which was a hit piece against a physician who dared question some of the shibboleths of the vaccine orthodoxy. This is way out of your wheelhouse, Gordon. Some quid pro quo prompt this post? The subject of this attack, Dr. Suzanne Humphries, refuted the piece and the links to both can be found in another comment above. As bad as the decision to post this piece was, your resorting to unnecessary asinine assertions in the intro makes it much worse. Perhaps wait until you’ve put a few thousand hours of research into the topic, then, out of embarrassment and a sense of honor that I still believe you have, please post a retraction.

  3. =>David Odell April 23, 2018 at 7:14 pm
    “I would say, comparatively, vaccines are not in the top 10 priorities of folks who want to make life safer and better.”

    Where did you get that numbers from?

    “Also, I would say, that the overwhelming majority of any group protesting medicinal methodology are are christians. I would also say, that it is certainly highly visible, that companies who actively pollute with chemicals and de-unionize labor forces have an very good friend with Christianity. If I had never heard of christianity and they came to my village and showed me their icon tortured on a cross, I would certainly send a warning to the village. millions did this in every continent of the world and the war continues despite the warnings. If the true concern is safety and good health, why not focus on the top contributors to sickness ?”

    Religion is not related to this topic, as for the question if vaccines are harmful or not and the idea of erasing first christianity to cope with the same problem is, tactically, not very helpful.

    “If you say vaccines are in the top ten reasons for premature death, then fine, yes I would like to see that evidence, because I have not.”

    Premature death is not the main issue regarding vaccines and their action on human health.

    “Pollution and war still occupy the top 2 I believe. neither of these are christian causes for outrage.

    You’re wrong.
    First cause of death in the US are prescription drugs: 1’000’000 deaths/year.
    It surpases the number of US victims of all the wars added together.
    Second cause of death are heart attacs and third, cancer.

    http://www.medicinekillsmillions.com/articles/death-by-medicine-is-leading-cause-of-death.html

    You don’t need guessing anymore. Here you have all the needed information.

  4. @David Odell

    If you’re not defending vaccines, well, let me tell you it looks much like as you would do. Setting vaccination as a secondary issue in everyday life, which is not. And centering the question on religion, which is not an immediate issue regarding the fact that one single shot of a vaccine marks your children for life as sick human beings.
    Maybe you’re aren’t aware of what we’re talking about here or, you are afraid to be.

    • I would say, comparatively, vaccines are not in the top 10 priorities of folks who want to make life safer and better. Also, I would say, that the overwhelming majority of any group protesting medicinal methodology are are christians. I would also say, that it is certainly highly visible, that companies who actively pollute with chemicals and de-unionize labor forces have an very good friend with Christianity. If I had never heard of christianity and they came to my village and showed me their icon tortured on a cross, I would certainly send a warning to the village. millions did this in every continent of the world and the war continues despite the warnings. If the true concern is safety and good health, why not focus on the top contributors to sickness ?
      If you say vaccines are in the top ten reasons for premature death, then fine, yes I would like to see that evidence, because I have not. Pollution and war still occupy the top 2 I believe. neither of these are christian causes for outrage.

  5. 3 Places christians were herded with incredible accuracy. Anti-unions, (which makes no sense for workers), pro-pollution, (which makes no sense for spiritual health,), and pro-war.
    Pharma is one leg of the centipede religion has been used to support. Else how would I know, that anytime I find a group of anti-vaccine protestors, the religion is identified. Meanwhile, take us to a anti-war march, and the number of christians is very very low. Even lower for anti-pollution which is definitely affecting your health way more than vaccines,…. so, I see some predictable choices considering I know which group is being herded, and here you are. Isn’t that weird ?

    • What is weird, is you saying to the nearest meaning is that their are more important issues that we should concentrate on and we should stop waisting our time on posting responses/relevant info on the issue.
      Yet you have written the most and longest replies on this thread?

  6. This should be of interest to VT readers especially the veterans.

    Leaked Anthrax Vaccine Memo Likely Authentic
    The validity of a leaked memo about bad anthrax vaccine batches was confirmed as likely valid following analysis by a leading attorney in the field despite bureaucratic assertions saying the document was a “fake” and a “scam.”

    By Benjamin Krause – April 17, 2018
    A new PDF memo purportedly from the Department of the Army concerning bad batches of the questionable Anthrax vaccine has been confirmed as originating from DOD despite claims from Massachusetts Department of Veterans’ Services secretary Francisco Urena that it was “fake” and a “scam.”

    https://www.disabledveterans.org/2018/04/17/leaked-anthrax-vaccine-memo-likely-authentic/

  7. I would like to know who VT got to write this jeremiad of hard edged disagreement against the viewpoints of Dr Humphries. I would caution people to realize that critiquing a particular viewpoint is not as easy as going to the literature and employing cherrypicking of articles and viewpoints to bolster one’s feelings toward a particular subject. I critique articles in areas of my competence but realize that papers are coming out rapidly that throw doubts into current therapy paradigms. If you think that one of the goals of biomedical research is to control costs for end users, guess again. There are therapies that cost a million dollars or more for a round of treatment! Big Pharma occupies many of the top rungs of the Fortune 500 and that’s no accident. Conspiracy you say? That said, I’d like to know the capabilities of those who wrote this article as well as their connection to the health/vaccine industry.

    • There is no doubt, Pharma is a boogie man, and genetic manipulation for the wealthy is here. I am not defending vaccines. I am pointing out, that psyops loves the way folks spend their time on this, instead of cutting the head off the snake, they are chasing the tail. Religion gets people into identifiable pools of select view points. from there, they are herded with accuracy beyond imagination. The purpose they created religion for, was expansion of territory and wealth. It is a sure fire way to maintain loyalty to whatever cause.
      Notice how nothing changes in the vaccine world. And notice how extreme wealth gains more and more power by having it’s own cheerleading squad that simultaneously provides targeted opposition. Example : 2 commenters on the pro-Humphries article, and 39 comments here.
      If you put as much energy into pollution and honestly investigate the source of the Bible, you would find you are fighting the same folks you support on Sunday. Fighting vaccines, is shooting blindly into the jungle to hit a gnat. Target pollution , capitalism and war, then Pharma loses it’s base. If you don’t want Pharma to make your laws, then stop letting Bezos and Gates hoard half the wealth of our labor.

  8. =>David Odell April 22, 2018 at 11:23 pm
    “Something you can do. And it will verify, is go out and find the Polio victims in wheelchairs and count them. Get back to me with the number and reason why you couldn’t find any. Only count the ones you find. That would be research.”

    No Dave. It would be “search” not “research”.
    And if we don’t find any, then what? You’ll feel free to invent the cause of it?
    The right way to do the count as “research” is to follow the history of urbanization, public and private hygiene, nutrition etc. and see how the outbreak of infectious diseases recedes constantly. Long before anyone got vaccinated.

  9. Interview with Dr phen who escaped as a refugee when he was a child from Vietnam were he talkes about why he gave up vaccinating.
    He also talks about how autsim was none existent in Vietnam in the past but that changed when they signed into the IMF followed by “Kill” Bill Gates Foundation vaccination programme which brought around a 300% rise in autism in the country.
    https://youtu.be/-3eQMI3cDKM

  10. It is anomalous that VT editors can see the truth in world affairs but cannot see the propaganda behind big pharma, especially when it comes to vaccines! I admire Dr. Humphries for not regurgitating what she was taught in school. Instead, she states her opinion based on facts, and not on big pharma marketing points as VT editors spewed out in this article. We invade countries to spread democracy, likewise, we force vaccinate our children to keep them healthy! Why can’t VT editors see the analogous intention!? Dr. Humphries does not deserve this cruel headline and the editors should debate the issue without resorting to hysterics. Freedom of choice is always a better option.

  11. First up, this is not an article written by the senior editors of Veterans Today.

    All they have done is reprint a rip off versin of “Isabella B” (phama shill) which was published on December 22, 2014 on Medium here https://medium.com/@visualvaccines/why-dr-suzanne-humphries-an-anti-vaccine-activist-is-lying-to-you-about-measles-ce446d0a7e0f

    Dr Humphries did an extensive rebuttal of this senseless twaddle on her website here:

    http://drsuzanne.net/2015/10/why-dr-suzanne-humphries-an-anti-vaccine-activist-is-lying-to-you-about-measles/

    • If I claim that the Gout is caused by subterranean seismic activity you cannot prove me wrong. Therefore I am right. The mandala effect, flat earth, and a host of other controversies keep the sheeple busy, while real issues take a back seat. Excuse me for being a broken record, but religion is the numero uno way to install lots and lots of barriers to investigations of significance. Medicine is chief among them. The churches take the tax break and invest in African gemstones while you paddle away with trading links. That is not research, it is opinion based on others research which you mostly have no way to verify. Like Lion repellent in NYC works every single time. My dogs arthritis is caused by the suns radiation filtered through the plasma field installed by aliens. Prove me wrong !!!!

    • Something you can do. And it will verify, is go out and find the Polio victims in wheel chairs and count them. Get back to me with the number and reason why you couldn’t find any. Only count the ones you find. That would be research.

  12. I think people are skeptical of the “extra ingredients” in vaccines, and how many are given so closely together.

    Distrust in Authority Figures is on the rise.

    In the last 50 years, people have NOT gotten healthier, they may live longer, but are just patched together with surgery and drugs, resembling the walking dead.

    However, doctors and the entire medical industry have grown FANTASTICALLY WEALTHY.

    Isn’t that what really counts?

  13. From:thecommonsenseshow.com,” Fortunately for the Amish, they’re also opting out of three of the most controversial vaccines on the market today: hepatitis B, HPV (human papillomavirus) and of course, the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella combo) that was implicated in the CDC vaccine-autism-link and biggest medical cover-up in history, ever. Conflicting with CDC claims, the multi-dose version of hepatitis B still contains thimerosal (50% mercury). The immature central nervous systems and the liver of Amish newborns are spared this volatile toxin thanks to their parent’s religious beliefs. Amish children experience hardly any learning disabilities at all, in fact. Nor are the Amish experiencing typical US diseases like cancer, heart disease and diabetes. This could all be because they don’t eat GMO, take chemical pharmaceuticals, or vaccines. Surely, no government run regulatory agency will ever run this comparison of Amish health vs. non-Amish health, but the reality speaks for itself.

    Still, the CDC refuses to regulate the vaccine industry and instead literally promotes toxic chemicals, dangerous heavy metal toxins, carcinogens and lethal “preservatives” like mercury. It’s all about lifestyle and natural health these days, if you really want immunity that doesn’t come with a boatload of permanent and debilitating “side effects,” like autism spectrum disorder, Asperger’s syndrome or liver cancer.”

    • The biggest treat I could get when growing up was an Amish donut. The things were huge, about 7 or 8 inches in diameter, a meal unto itself. I used to marvel about them and wonder where they came from. Till the day I saw the donut mix being offloaded from the truck. The glazing on those and everything else they made and sold by the road was lathered stuffed and filled with white cane sugar, no pure ingredients of any kind. This was the hard core Amish. I never saw anyone above 80, but we did have some neighbors who took in all the children who had birth defects from the inbreeding problems, and that was a house of misery and woe. The last of the pagan leaning Amish left the world in the 70’s, and back then they had beautiful mandala’s on the barns and things were different. I have ton’s of stories regarding their health and privacy when it comes to burials, but I’m sure you wouldn’t want to hear them. religious dogma, has never been a choice for health, but of isolation from impending “insert favorite doom here “.

  14. When globalist psycopaths are involved in a scheme to send people around the world to “protect” the poor people in shitholes by vaccinating them, can they be trusted?
    Gates has announced that he plans to vaccinate every child in the third world with multiple vaccines, which could result in a dramatic population reduction of 10-15%. Do you realize the enormous profits that can be realized by vaccinating every child in the third world? If we apply Gates’ penchant for investing in causes which produce a hefty “return on investment” (ROI) then one could reasonably suspect that Gates is positioning himself to profit on the $50 million he has invested in the Ebola cause which conveniently includes the CDC, the holder of the patent for Ebola.
    The Bill Gates Agenda.
    https://youtu.be/q9aGdFRzsDc

  15. As soon as babies stop dying by the thousands after being vaccinated, THEN I will believe this garbage article. As soon as children stop being seriously injured for life, after being vaccinated, I will believe this article. Does VT agree with Madeline Albrights comment that 1/2 a million Iraqi children deaths was “worth it”? Does VT have any idea how many children are killed by vaccines that they never needed in the first place. Has VT read the health reports comparing vaxxed and non vaxxed children, because I have?

    Can you tell me why a newborn, 4 hours old, needs a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease or why they need booster after booster after booster? Or why boys are given Guardasil? Vaccines destroy the immune system, cause grievous harm and kill people. Anyone who doesn’t see that is blind as a bat and anyone who professes the safely and efficacy of vaccines is in BigPharma’s pocket.

  16. You guys have gone full retard. This is crazy and ignorant. I can understand that you still don’t understand the mechanics of the realm you live in, but damn. Any idiot can figure out there are evil people pushing fear and vaccination with the tools you share here on VT! Without any science, and actually there is still no credible source available to the public on vaccination, you could decide that getting vaccinated is a bad idea. You are so wrong about vaccination it’s amazing to me to see you double down. The correlation between vaccines and autism, allergies, increased childhood sickness, and SIDS is what you call direct. There is next to zero deviation. The other correlated possibility is EMF radiation, but other countries giving dozens fewer doses of vaccines but similar EMF coverage don’t have correlated instances to sickness. Wellness is not complicated, ask the Queen of England she knows about plant minerals. And how the hell do you figure that the medical industry in a democratic capitalist country, might as well say communist, somehow is the only government run industry that is to be trusted. You guys just haven’t come to your realization yet. It’s coming. VT should just stick to military intelligence. You literally have nothing else. All other attempts at journalism you have is the blind leading the blind.

    • ” Without any science, and actually there is still no credible source available to the public on vaccination, you could decide that getting vaccinated is a bad idea.”

      Still no credible source ? If all the universities and medical centers are wrong, you should be in the streets protesting the compulsory education system, not vaccination. Attacking vaccination is like blaming a flea on the back of a dog. What about kidney transplants, are they ok ? The mechanics of the realm, is that if search hard enough you will find, there is no savior and everything is made up in every department of human existence.

  17. I think a very graph to see would be the number of anti-vaccine activists who belong to religions that are opposed to certain types of medicinal treatments. I don’t need to see it because the answers are overwhelmingly obvious, but folks who refuse or work against blood transfers or organ donation, or abortion, or stem cell research, or even going back to when nobody was allowed to see the insides of bodies, are the same groups who feel that somehow, in the midst of a population explosion, and simultaneous rise in life expectancy, that there is a plan being implemented to kill everyone. I grew up in Amish country and they were great neighbors for the most part, but at one point, 13 children died of whooping cough because God didn’t want them to go to hospitals. This is the same thing, and religions fund this rhetoric consistently.
    I think micro-biologists and people who specialize, would be better suited than a nephrologist. So, if you are looking for a conspiracy, the funding of anti-science is done primarily by religions based on superstition. Just another reason why I am highly in favor of taxing churches and all their income, because this is where they spend the huge tax breaks they get. Not on charity.

    • I would also say, as a veteran, that if you are going to study a group for vaccine side effects, that would be the one. We are injected with everything, even if you have had it or don’t need it. Pin cushions, I believe is a term used often in the lines. People do over vaccinate, but to argue that it has not helped is ridiculous. Where’s the outrage against pollution which is far more demonstrable as a public health concern / See, religions do not fund anti pollution or anti-war activism, because their leaders and politicians are the primary perps. because God doesn’t care about the earth, just the special people. And life is only precious before it is born, but as soon as 18 comes, it is cannon fodder for God. Scott Pruitt and his religious rape the earth policy is just the latest example.

    • Marukee, um no they weren’t . Faith is the opposite of exploration and if by Faith you mean christian then definitely no. They may have had to say it, though. Dogma rules many academic institutions, because the christians come out of the woodwork over any issue with medicine. Walking on eggshells has been the norm for most of recent history.

    • David Odell – your lack of understanding of true Christianity is amazing! As a Christian, my distrust of vaccines has ZERO to do with my beliefs but has everything to do with research! Coming out of the woodwork? That is total garbage!! Many Christians do research and base their opinions on what they have learned – not on their beliefs!

    • martsiva, I suffer from the lack of knowledge in many areas, but christianity is not one of them. there is no true christianity, and no christian thinks any other christians are true christians. Your research is not trial and error and testing and observation, it is reading the internet and more precisely targeted sources who repeatedly take advantage of your innocence and support. That is not research. Boots on the ground is necessary for research. If a belief is formed and solidified, and held dear, it precludes any findings to the contrary, and so that is how the machine stays oiled. It is my finding by research that religion prevents investigative abilities because it installs preconceived limitations to acceptable findings. The christians that I have found to be good investigators, left the religion when they found it was all made up, and there are many.
      Sorry, most people do not care enough to even mention it.

    • I didn’t say what religion those scientists were. Back in the dark ages the suppression by the church took place but that was not only in Science and Medicine but that is not to say that there was no Christian Scientists or Doctors. And I agree with what Martsiva said about her faith having nothing to do with her distrust of vaccines.

  18. I have been reading as\bout vaccines and their safety for over 10 years from multiple authors too numerous to count. VT’s effort here is pure buffoonery and makes me now wonder how reliable you are in general. Stupid and dangerous and sad that you ventured into this area, where you are incompetent.

    • I am exactly on the same page romagnol, it’s been 10 years of researching vaccines and the allopathic industry in general. The scams proliferated, especially the out-n-out lies about bogus flu vaccines, loaded with mercury and aluminum that all seniors say “yes” to, and shortly thereafter, turn into demented vegetables.
      Alzheimers, autism rampant in this country. What’s the common thread? There is only one. Take away the vaccines and you have a healthy person. It escapes me how VT could have ventured into the health racket having not the slightest idea what they are talking about. I am stunned. And disappointed.

  19. I am suprised by the very strong term used for someone who is “Anti Vax.”
    I thought VT was about people being able to put their view point forward or being able to respond to articles? Or is that only if you go along with the opinion the author has written or said.
    I thought that someone had taken the time out to write the refutation of Dr S Humphries but then realised that it was a cut and paste job of some parts taken from a poorly written blog from someone who made glaring errors or deliberately misled the reader.
    It is only fair that Dr S Humphries gets the chance to respond to the accusations made in the article. I will let you make your own mind up wether the article was written in error or is misleading

    http://drsuzanne.net/2015/10/why-dr-suzanne-humphries-an-anti-vaccine-activist-is-lying-to-you-about-measles/

    • Sure, because veterans who are trying to spread the truth about war, are actually in favor of torturing children,.. sure , I can see where you got that,… it’s called analreticulitous. This condition causes a synaptic imbalance between your vision and your anus, resulting in a shitty outlook. Unfortunately, there is no cure or vaccine for that. But reduction in the oral intake of fecal matter has been shown to reduce the symptoms.

    • Hey Dave, the article was about vaccinations, not spreading the truth about war. Try to keep up…

  20. I am a medical doctor with two specializations. The issue with Vaccination is more complex and complicated. It is not such black and white as it presented by VT. Please VT! Do not involve your self in issues which you have not knowledge. This issue is not a military or intelligence one, so do not mix everything here in VT.
    Do not publish anything on vaccination unless you read Dr. Mayer Eisenstein book or testimonies of Dr. William Thompson one of the highest authorities on vaccination issue.
    VT time after time publishing also articles calling Taliban “freedom fighters”. While in reality Taliban is a extremist tribal death cult. TV slowly slowly losing its reputation and credibility.

  21. Since when has Veterans Today been infiltrated by the JewWorldOrder big pharma henchman? Dr. Suzanne Humphries is an excellent medical doctor with a moral conscience. Vaccines have been proven dangerous and ineffective. PERIOD!!! Whoever wrote this piece of disinfo is the extremist!

  22. http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html

    “Magnesium is nothing short of a miracle mineral in its healing effect on a wide range of diseases as well as in its ability to rejuvenate the aging body. We know that it is essential for many enzyme reactions, especially in regard to cellular energy production, for the health of the brain and nervous system and also for healthy teeth and bones. However, it may come as a surprise that in the form of magnesium chloride it is also an impressive infection fighter.
    The first prominent researcher to investigate and promote the antibiotic effects of magnesium was a French surgeon, Prof. Pierre Delbet MD. In 1915 he was looking for a solution to cleanse wounds of soldiers, because he found that traditionally used antiseptics actually damaged tissues and encouraged infections instead of preventing them. In all his tests magnesium chloride solution was by far the best. Not only was it harmless for tissues, but it also greatly increased leucocyte activity and phagocytosis, the destruction of microbes.
    Later Prof. Delbet also performed experiments with the internal applications of magnesium chloride and found it to be a powerful immune-stimulant. In his experiments phagocytosis increased by up to 333%. This means after magnesium chloride intake the same number of white blood cells destroyed up to three times more microbes than beforehand.
    Gradually Prof. Delbet found magnesium chloride to be beneficial in a wide range of diseases. These included diseases of the digestive tract such as colitis and gall bladder problems, Parkinson’s disease, tremors and muscle cramps; acne, eczema, psoriasis, warts and itching skin; impotence, prostatic hypertrophy, cerebral and circulatory problems; asthma, hay fever, urticaria and anaphylactic reactions. Hair and nails became stronger and healthier and patients had more energy.
    Prof. Delbet also found a very good preventative effect on cancer and cured precancerous conditions such as leukoplasia, hyperkeratosis and chronic mastitis. Epidemiological studies confirmed that regions with magnesium-rich soil had less cancer than those with low magnesium levels.
    Another French doctor, A. Neveu, cured several diphtheria patients with magnesium chloride within two days. He also published 15 cases of poliomyelitis that were cured within days if treatment was started immediately, or within months if paralysis had already progressed. Neveu also found magnesium chloride effective with asthma, bronchitis, pneumonia and emphysema; pharyngitis, tonsillitis, hoarseness, common cold, influenza, whooping cough, measles, rubella, mumps, scarlet fever; poisoning, gastro-enteritis, boils, abscesses, whitlow, infected wounds and osteomyelitis.”

  23. The combination of valid distrust in institutions in general, and profiteering in Pharma, lead to invalid skepticism a great deal of the time. Often, these fears of the unknown result in a huge amount of attention on things that are fine, while attention to things way higher up the priority list are ignored.
    Also, this activity provides data to those who would manipulate the gullible into whatever scheme.
    The most interesting thing to me about the graphs is the huge disparity in the highs and lows of the measles outbreaks revealing a cycle. It appears the disparity reaches 500,000 or more between cycles. The internet will help us sharpen the cause of cyclical disparity by differentiating between actual cases and years where people are simply less likely to report. The main concern with medicine continues to be shared data. Not vaccines. We would benefit hugely if the data was open source. That should be the fight , if folks care about lives.

  24. The Editor’s note is quite heavy …homeopathic peddlers, fraudsters and, why not, Terrorists.

    Well. Let’s see the rationale of what the editor defends, related to the practice of vaccination:

    Vaccination is based solely on two assumptions.
    That injecting the pathogens into the body, which is an unnatural way of infection, will solely immunize the body against a certain disease.
    And, that the pathogens are the “cause” of disease.

    The first assumption is not yet proven.
    The problem with statistics is that for every diagram proving the effect of vaccination there as much diagrams or more, disproving it. And those diagrams are not made by some freaks but by medical doctors having the same, if not a better education than the supporters of vaccination.
    The historical records stating the outbreak of infectious diseases right after a vaccination campaign are there as well, but they will be carefully ignored.
    But, beyond the statistical evidence, we can very well analyze what we really do by injecting a pathogen into the body in an unnatural way.
    Well, we are infecting the body in the wrong way. This is evident.
    We are setting free a basically unknown life form, in an also unknown environment which could trigger up unknown mutations of the pathogen. Thus, endangering the life of the host in the long or in the short run. Who could find out?
    This would be the core of the possible consequences of the first assumption.

    The second one, that the pathogens are the cause of disease is of course deadly wrong.
    If they were the cause of disease there would have been no life development on Earh !
    Pathogens are just a part of the disease and this part has been put forward to justify the use of vaccines.

    So. Have been helped those kids in those so-called Shitholes ?
    Who knows.

    Real help would have been to run a program for the administration of Magnesium Chloride, for everyone there.
    MgCl being cheapest and well known for his capability of curing and preventing all kinds of infectious diseases. Known for a century now and having been communicated to the French Academy of medicine a century ago, but ignored for the sake of the beginning business with vaccines.

    I understand very well this inner compulsion to help the needy, but, at least, one has to know what he is doing.
    Who could be able to relate future degenerative diseases or any malignant development in those kids with the wrong application of a pathogen in their childhood?
    Most possible those who do not have a direct access to these children.

    • Science by it’s nature is very slow to advance. It’s the best we have and it is not perfect. If we want it better, chasing theories on topics we are not trained in , is not efficient. If we want better medicine, we need to start at the institutions that train doctors, and listen to their needs. Also, we need open source. That one out ten thousand independent researchers, might be onto something, but the data is unavailable. Trying to read any decent papers will cost a fortune, as it is pay to read each one. So, why can’t research performed in institutions that receive public funding, be open source ? That is our target. And that public funding should include any corporate tax breaks as well. Everything should be open source when it comes to medicinal research by mandate.

  25. As a dental practitioner for many years, had I come out against the use of the neurotoxin called fluoride as per the diktat of those behind this scam, I would have had my license to practice taken away. Fluoride was the magic bullet, it was heaven on earth, it was the ultimate.
    This might explain why 99.99% of pediatricians are “pro-vaccine”. AS in if you want to keep your license to practice, ya better tow the mark and espouse vaccines or else…..

    • In 1986, the US Congress established the National Vaccine Childhood Injury Act (NVCIA), because the vaccine manufacturers had come to them and said we have so many lawsuits we’re going to go out of business, because we cannot afford to pay for vaccine related injuries for which we’re being sued. So they passed the National Childhood Injury Act, and in it they created the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Compensation program, and they also created the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has, as of March 1st, paid out $3.6 billion for vaccine related injuries, since 1986. 2016 was the year in which they reported the most injuries and the most vaccine compensations. In 2016 alone, $250 million was paid out to 800 individuals, which works out to be around $300,000 per case.

      Full testimony from Dr. Alvin H. Moss, M.D. at the West Virginia Senate Education Committee on Saturday, March 18, 2017. Dr. Moss is a physician and professor in the Center for Health Ethics & Law department at West Virginia University​.
      https://youtu.be/gDhv-MzHlHo

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