Time to Get US Forces Out of Europe Before They Can Start WW3.

They’ve been over here for 70 years, but the ‘opaque’ presence of our US allies worries many critics.

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[Editors note: I’ll let our US readers in on a little secret – over here in Britain, we really don’t like you and what’s more, we never really have. It’s a most understandable dislike because Yanks that come here have had a nasty habit of the sort of arrogance and disdain for the natives that does not sit well at all with the British. This is something that goes back to WW2, when we were invaded by hordes of Yanks who had too much money, too much arrogance and too few manners, your average Yank simply could not resist complaining about how everything was bigger and better back home and how dismal Britain was. Then there was the rampant racism, the US Army still being a segregated force at that time. 

Black US servicemen found that they were far more welcome than their white counterparts as they behaved far better and didn’t emulate the over the top arrogance of their white colleagues. Infact, legion are the tales of groups of white US servicemen getting the holy living snot beaten out of them by British servicemen because the Brits took exception to their blatant racism. It usually went like this: a bunch of white GIs would find their way into a British pub and discover there were already several black GIs there, enjoying the local hospitality. All it then took was one white GI to mutter something about ‘shouldn’t have to drink with niggers’ and it was time for the violence to ensue.

By 1945, Britain had been playing host to these unwanted annoying Yanks for almost three years and we couldn’t wait for them to leave, sadly, they never did, or rather, large numbers remained, US bases were kept open and Britain became a key part of the new US military policy of placing substantial forces in Europe, especially aircraft, including nuclear bombers. Then the US went and stabbed Britain in the back by abruptly terminating the Lend-Lease Agreement and forcing us to sign up for crippling loans that took until 2006 to pay off.

With allies like the US, who needs enemies? The US knew Britain was bankrupt and utterly worn out after fighting so long and so hard, but they still stabbed us in the back, doing all they could to devalue the British currency and cripple Britain’s hopes of post-war rebuilding with the result that it took decades for Britain to recover from the post-war US treachery.

Although Britain has, in the wake of the Cold War, managed to get the US to remove it’s nukes from Britain, we are still host to many US bases and tens of thousands of personnel. The US early warning system is reliant on RAF Menwith Hill and the US needs British airbases for operations in Europe. All of which sits very uneasily with the British people – we want the yanks gone, and gone for good, the ‘special relationship’ never existed outside of the soundbites of politicos and we still don’t like Yanks much at all.

So how do you think Britons feel when we see on TV this bloated orange monstrosity of a man pretending to be US president and doing all he can to destabilise the world and push us ever closer to WW3? I can tell you how we feel – an intense loathing and extreme distaste, we see right through Trump and simply cannot fathom why so may in the US fail to do so too. I guess that stereotype of most Yanks being hopelessly dumb holds a fair bit of water.

Very few in Britain think that remaining in an alliance with the US Evil Empire is desirable, we still collectively remember what it is like to be bombed and to lose large numbers of our young men in futile wars, something the US has yet to experience in anything approaching the same magnitude – perhaps the US needs to see it’s cities burning and it’s young boys thrown into pits, too many to bury properly; to experience the same destruction and warfare that Europe has, then you might wake up and finally do something to get rid of Trump before he starts WW3.

We Europeans will not be holding our breath however…. Ian]

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The Independent, January 2014
Unknown territory: America’s secret archipelago of UK bases

When Charles de Gaulle wrote to his American counterpart in 1966 ordering that all US troops be removed from French soil within 12 months, President Lyndon Johnson responded by enquiring as to whether the edict included the removal of the contents of his country’s war cemeteries.


The answer was no, but the subsequent removal of 70,000 personnel and 80,000 tonnes of materiel reinforced what has remained a cornerstone of US foreign policy – the use of the UK as Washington’s overseas military and intelligence bolthole of choice.

In response to De Gaulle’s “non” to Nato, Britain delivered one of a long series of post-war “come on over chaps” answers to the US Air Force and other arms of the US military, welcoming a further 225 fighter planes and the main European supply base for the US Army.

The result is some 70 years of co-habitation that has led to an abiding kinship – forged as Americans flooded into Britain for D-Day –and queasiness at incidents such as the use of East Anglian air bases to bomb Muammar Gaddafi in 1986, and the siting of US nuclear weapons here until 2008.

Such ambivalence was underlined following revelations in The Independent last year that a US-manned air base in Northamptonshire serves as a relay base for a global network of listening posts in US embassies implicated in the eavesdropping on German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Foreign Secretary William Hague has been asked to look into whether activities at RAF Croughton, which also acts as a CIA communications hub and provides a data link to a US drone base in Djibouti, conform with UK law and are subject to sufficient scrutiny.

The row goes to the core of a debate raging ever since Britain became one of America’s Cold War “unsinkable aircraft carriers”: what purpose is served by handing over 10 square miles of sovereign turf to a foreign power, and what control does the UK have over what happens on it?

Since the highwater mark of the 1990s, when the number of US-manned military facilities in Britain reached 100 or so, the US presence has fallen to 13, ranging from RAF Lakenheath in Suffolk – one of the largest air bases outside the US – to a joint GCHQ and National Security Agency satellite station at Morwenstow in Cornwall. The result is nonetheless a significant US military presence on British soil, consisting of 24,000 personnel, civilian staff and family members.

After nearly 50 years in which priority was given to meeting the Warsaw Pact threat with fleets of bombers and fighter aircraft, the US presence has shifted in recent years towards the emerging threat of cyber warfare and industrial-scale eavesdropping of the type exposed by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.

Either way, for the British and the US governments, the siting of Washington’s hardware – from F-15 fighters at Lakenheath to “golf ball” radomes squatting in the Yorkshire Dales at the NSA’s RAF Menwith Hill station – is mutually advantageous.

Under the UKUSA Agreement, the foundation for Anglo-American intelligence sharing signed in 1943 and considered so sensitive that it was not disclosed to the public until 2005, experts judge that the two countries have shared more secrets than any two sovereign powers in history.

It is part of a mosaic of US facilities, from air bases to listening stations in locations from North Yorkshire to Turkey, which, in the words of one US document, “delivers full-spectrum options to combatant commanders, leads and supports joint … warfighting headquarters operations, promoting regional stability”.

As well as enhancing British security, the bases pour money into local economies. Figures produced on behalf of US Air Forces in Europe claim America’s UK bases are worth $1.3bn (£812m) a year to local communities in spending on supplies, services, rent and food.

The MoD insists that there is full oversight of the “RAF” bases, including a British commander who scrutinises all actions to ensure they comply with British law, and legislation holding all foreign service personnel to UK legislation.

But critics insist such assertions are a poor exchange for a grim reality of opacity over US activities and what they say is a legal no-man’s-land resulting in British impotence when it comes to holding the UK’s first ally to account.

Lindis Percy, a veteran peace activist who has protested outside US bases since 1979, said: “The thread … through everything to do with these facilities is an almost total lack of accountability. Even now, new by-laws are being introduced to deter people from going near bases already protected by draconian legislation.

“And they are particularly twitchy about bases linked to intelligence … It is the radomes and not the runways which are the new front line.”

Action stations: US-linked camps

RAF Fylingdales (N Yorks)

Set amid the bleak beauty of the North York Moors, this base is primarily there to give early warning of a ballistic-missile attack. It has been earmarked as a key installation for America’s interceptor-defence system.

RAF Menwith Hill (N Yorks)

The jewel in the crown of the NSA’s interception abilities in Europe. Its golf-ball-like radomes are capable of downloading at least two million conversations an hour. The base is expanding, too, with some 2,500 staff due on site by 2015. At least 400 will be personnel from GCHQ.

RAF Feltwell (Norfolk)

Once a US nuclear base, Feltwell is now used as a space- and satellite-monitoring station for the US military. The Government has denied that it forms part of Washington’s proposed anti-ballistic-missile network.

RAF Lakenheath (Suffolk)

The largest US Air Force (USAF) base in the UK, with some 4,600 personnel. Covering 2.8 square miles, it is larger in acreage and personnel than Britain’s own largest base, at RAF Brize Norton.

RAF Mildenhall (Suffolk)

Not far from RAF Lakenheath, Mildenhall is a key USAF installation, providing air transport, aerial refuelling, and support for special-services missions.

RAF Alconbury (Cambs)

Once a major USAF bomber and spy-plane base, this outpost of US power in the Cambridgeshire Fens is now home to an intelligence-analysis centre (along with nearby RAF Molesworth).

RAF Upwood (Cambs)

Provides accommodation and support services for personnel based at RAF Alconbury and RAF Molesworth. Until last year was home to a major US medical centre.

RAF Croughton (Northants)

Part of Washington’s global military command and control system, Croughton was originally set up to co-ordinate an attack by US nuclear bombers. It has since evolved into a state-of-the-art relay hub for some of Washington’s most sensitive material, including CIA agent communications.

RAF Barford St John (Oxon)

A satellite outpost for Croughton. Hosts aerials and transmitters for military communications.

RAF Fairford (Glos)

Was home to B-52 bombers and other aircraft used to bombard the former Yugoslavia and Iraq. One of three airbases outside the US designated to host long-range B-2 nuclear stealth bombers.

RAF Welford (Berks)

Linked to Fairford and once the owner of its very own M4 access road. Now serves primarily as a munitions store, reputedly one of the largest for heavy weapons in Europe.

Morwenstow (Cornwall)

Otherwise known as GCHQ Bude, Morwenstow is nominally a British satellite-receiving station. Its more clandestine work occurs underground, where, according to the Edward Snowden leaks, it forms a key part of the “Tempora” network, capable of storing and monitoring internet cables. The NSA paid £15.5m towards upgrading the station for this purpose.

The bases’ legal status

Status of Forces Act

Drawn up in 1951 and then set in legislation as the Visiting Forces Act, this is the legal framework for what foreign military personnel can – and cannot – do in the UK.

It reserves jurisdiction over United States personnel to the US (as applies to British personnel in Nato countries). Minor offences such as driving infringements are nonetheless settled in the British courts. But concern is growing that the legislation has been overtaken by technology, and that new safeguards are needed to maintain the UK veto over what activities are permitted.

Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (Ripa) Despite this being the benchmark for what secret surveillance and investigation can be carried out by public bodies, there is no requirement to monitor compliance to Ripa by US military personnel in Britain. Peers and MPs are concerned that Anglo-American eavesdropping is not being monitored.

Military by-laws Under an overhaul of by-laws, the MoD is tightening the rules surrounding US bases, including RAF Croughton. Under the new rules infringements, from failing to collect dog waste to taking photographs, would be arrestable offences.


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13 COMMENTS

  1. It was interesting to read reports from Norway. The locals say that NATO soldiers during the drills harm the farmer’s fields by war vehicles and literally turned all places into the toilets. The Norwegians call the soldiers as “cattles” for their nasty behaviour. And it is not the first time NATO troops behave like this at the places they are based or have military drills. “High culture”…..

  2. Ian I’m sure you are right, rude American GI’s full of hubris and shit, their all over the world. But it wasn’t my father, or my uncles who took Britain to the doors of bankruptcy. It was the Bganksters of Wall Street with their relatives in the City of London. The same vampires who now, are leading America to financial ruin. It’s a tribal thing.
    Now I will finish reading.

  3. Hardly believable. That’s not how the AZE (AngloZionist Empire) operates. If this evil entity declares that it has 13 bases, it means that the USSA has 40 or more, plus several DUMBs, plus several bases run by Khazarians only. Normally, the purpose of the remaining “secret” bases is:
    1. A torture & detention site
    2. A prison for trafficked children who will be used as sexual slaves or for satanic ritual abuse or to be assassinated and then cannibalized and/or harvested
    3. A stash
    4. A hideout
    5. A relay or distribution site for so-called “illegal” drugs. Now drones are the favorite means of transport
    6. A center for communications and espionage
    7. A place for secret meetings
    8. What else?……

  4. Ian: Did not England had a great deal to do with why the U.S. entered the fray in WWII? Have you read “War is a Racket” by two time medal of honor recipient General Smedley Butler? He gave speeches and did his best in towns all over America during the period 1930′.s against going to war in Europe. But I never heard about him in any lying history books. Most Americans didn’t want to go to war either having just fought in another failed war WWI about 20 years earlier. General Butler died in 1940 but he was the real hero of that era although he failed to convince his comrades like the criminal Franklin Roosevelt not to fool America into another war basically for Isarel. What a total disgrace America has become. Also read the abridged protocols of Zion by Henry Ford published by his newspaper the Dearborn Independent about 1921. Let’s shut down all bases and England immediately.

  5. Sincere apology for Trump Ian! And the rest of the D.C. Cabal as well, but it seems the American people have as much control, or say so, as we all had on 9/11, and everything that followed. We’re all in it together! Zionists obviously not included!

  6. Much worse than UK it’s Italy, they are a complete vassals without no one sovereignty. Now in Niscemi, Sicicly is the host of US one of four Mobile User Objective System world bases, developed by Lockheed Martin for the U.S. Navy , a few miles is the Joint Tactical Ground Station, a ground station part of US anti-misssile shield, this is one of five US world bases with the others in Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia and the US. Also they have his B-61 nukes deployed in Aviano and Ghedi air bases used by USAF. Also the biggest arsenal outside US is in Camp Darby between Pisa and Livorno and so on….

  7. I think an argument can be made that FDR supplied Britain in 1940-41 with war materiel (in direct violation of no less than four U.S. laws) in hopes that the empire, grievously weakened by the Great War and now in the debt of U.S. bankers, would self-destruct fighting yet another unwinnable European ground war. Then the United States could finally fulfill the national destiny envisioned by the Founders, to replace the mother country as the world’s sole great power.

    Meanwhile in 1939-41 Stalin supplied the Wehrmacht with much of its supplies and weaponry in a similar hope, that Germany would exhaust its defensive capability neutralizing the powerful British and French empires, after which his vastly expanded Red Army –larger than all the other armies of the world combined- would roll in virtually unopposed, and all of Europe and England would fall into his totalitarian realm.

  8. Now Now Iain most grey people in the UK are naturally racist and don’t need the Yanks to teach them this skill set.

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