Trump on Guns Gone Crazy?

1. Btw, I understand that the kid in Dayton had been given drugs for ADHD since he started school. So if he was indeed “off”. who created that problem? Legally prescribed drugs were given to a small child, with no regard for the long-term effects. Big Pharma wins big with Red Flag laws, and so does the Police State. The police themselves do not win, as they are just low-paid serfs, and they know it. That’s why their suicide numbers are so high.

   • Ritalin and Adderall have the long term consequence of shielding the self, until it explodes.

2. The guy is funny, but it’s not funny. I heard the President’s remarks, and saw his tweet about “these guys” being “mentally ill” and “we are working on a bipartisan solution”. Red flag laws would be the worst tyranny yet. We do NOT have a mental health problem in this country, period. What we do have is a Medical Mafia, and the Mental Health pros are the worst of the worst. By the way, here in eastern MO, the hospital systems use foreign psychiatrists (there is a red flag!) who label everyone they see as mentally ill, and then funnel those patients to their own very lucrative practices. They all make obscene amts. of money. Oh, and once a person is labeled mentally ill, they can also sexually abuse the patient, because they can get away with it. Who is gonna believe someone who is mentally ill? It is the rare person whose family helps them fight back, which means civil lawsuits that they win, but sadly there is usually an NDA involved, so the corrupt system goes on. We need criminal cases brought!

3. I think the the 2nd amandment of the US constitution is somewhat taken out of context. Back then 1776, war on Imperial Powers, starvation and immigrants from Europe who didn’t all speak the same language, did they all trust on each others, my guess is no, but they did trust the Constitution and the right to protect their family.

   Today I think Americans have somewhat similar family based thinking, that every family builds her own luck in medicare and education, which tempts the maximum amount of maximum profit parasites like insurance companies and law companies around. This has nothing to do with guns, but all to do to denigrate the only social nationalist candidate Bernie S.

   • That is correct. After and during the Revolution it was quite clear, that lots of people did not sign up or want the revolution in the first place. But after they realized it was an all hands on deck situation, the civilian populace was essential to the “winning”. Therefore to not include the concept and protections would have been insane.

     Today there is religious factions with dreams of christian utopia at the end of the gun. The bibles always come with those. To even imply Sharia law is being installed, no matter how falsely, brings double the traffic and money to gun manufacturers. But burning witches and owning the wife is ok. It’s fanaticism.

   • The right to self defense is an inherent right and has nothing to do with politics which is why the Second Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights.

     If the American Indian was unarmed they would have been forced into the same situation as the Palestinians where the Israel government is stealing their land unchecked.

   • Gall, The Indigenous people of the US have exactly been in the situation of the Palestinians for over 400 years.
     The comparison is made constantly. It is the example. The similarities are stark.

4. If we did a reboot, and tomorrow every town has it’s own town council and town police and is responsible for and mandated to, maintain a well regulated militia. Nobody in their right mind would say, hey just let everyone have as many guns as they want. Nobody. That has about as much chance passing in a town hall on the topic as adopting astrology as the career selection tool at the guidance counselors office at schools.
   Certain people would have stocks, and they would be locked up to be available. Young people can sign up and learn real training and every town already has a range. But, Tommy is a bit off, and we don’t just hand him a semi-auto with banana clips. Police barracks and military account for every weapon they have. Well regulated militias would do the same. Create the real militias and make sure they are well regulated. Period. Simple.
   The divisive factor in all this, is churches split the towns and everyone forms groups, ending the concept of a unified militia. It’s factions. Dispersion.

   • The “wellness” part is the issue. Well regulated means proper regulations. That kid in Dayton and the idiot in El Paso, would not have a firearm. They don’t need one, shouldn’t have one, and no well regulated outfit would have given them one. Certainly not the ones they had.
     The proper militias should have national affiliations, and regulatory bodies. They should be separate from but work with County Sheriffs and other bodies like SAR. SAR is dying for something to do, and it is a bipartisan secular outfit. Give them federal funding and inspection capabilities. This would satisfy the foreign issue.
     On top of that, outlaw private security for religious outfits, and tax the properties to pay for the “regulation” of the militias. Surely they wouldn’t mind contributing a fair share.

   • A miltia is formed by armed citizens not the other way around. Owning a weapon is an individual right which is why it is part of the BILL OF RIGHTS. You seem to ignore the last half that says the “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED(emphasis mine)”

     “In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that the “Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.”

     https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/second_amendment

     However I do agree that training in the use of fire arms should be part of owning a gun. Thus instead of Legislation there should be education instead.

   • A home is very easy to protect without weapons. In fact, expecting a weapon to do it, is not a good idea. Plus, if you get one everyone gets one. The idea of the civilians keeping arms, was to form “well regulated militias”.
     This what we got , is neither well formed, regulated, or anything of benefit for anyone. That should be overwhelmingly obvious.
     The product of the policy is front and center, and it is crystal clear. And people can keep a handgun for personal protection, as long as they have a permit and have been vetted. Anything less is insane. It ain’t that hard.

   • “Vetted”? By whom? By some sleazy bureaucrat and a shrink? I doubt if that what the authors intended. Also I see you totally evaded the fact that the Second Amendment says what it says. Actually handguns are perfect for home defense you’d know this if you knew anything about weapons which obviously you don’t.

     Ignorance of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and weapons in general seems to define most gun control advocates.

   • I have always owned guns, a trained veteran, and have a concealed carry permit and also am a residential contractor. It is far easier to make the home safe, than to rely on a weapon, especially if you have children in the house. Most of the time, the guns have trigger locks , are in a safe, or not easily reached. If a person is so paranoid that they need a nightly routine of unlocking a gun safe, loading the weapon and bringing to the bedside, then I would say, dude, just make the house secure and sleep nice. Stolen guns are as easy to get as weed. Those are the ones left by the bedside. First place to look.
     The locals should be in charge of vetting, and held responsible for mistakes. Any gun for any person is not responsible. Nobody would advocate for that.

   • Actually a better place is under your pillow. Just kidding 🙂 You make some a good points though I must say that the only reason that “our” Government hasn’t totally wiped out the Bill of Rights or totally abrogated Treaties is because of they are faced with an armed citizenry.

5. Concord and Lexington redux.

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