…by Jonas E. Alexis
David Irving continues to be vindicated. The Daily Mail has recently published an article saying that “2,400 tons of high explosives and 1,500 tons of incendiary bombs were dropped” on a city that was largely known for its civilian population. “An unknown number of people, somewhere between 22,700 and 25,000, were dead.”
British rifleman Victor Gregg was an eyewitness during those events, and his account is simply devastating, particularly for those who thought that David Irving has absolutely nothing to contribute to this historical puzzle. Gregg recounted:
“Dresden’s old timber-framed houses were, one by one, succumbing to the fire, and most of the wreckage was landing on top of the cellars that people were using as shelters. Trapped in what were effectively ovens, they slowly roasted to death.”
“Some of the other prisoners had also made it out of the building. We were all in shock, with some screaming from the pain of their injuries. Only about a dozen of us were fit enough to walk.”
The situation was so horrible that at some point “men and women were trapped in water that slowly rose to a boiling point. We stumbled along the remains of a wide avenue, surrounded by fires and mountains of red-hot wreckage. What saved me were the clogs I’d been given me to wade through snow to the soap factory. The soles were so thick that I managed to walk unharmed through red-hot cinders and burning rubble.”
At another point, “the whole city had become a gigantic torch…the heavens were suddenly full of airplanes, their outlines reflected in the glow of the flames. The bombs they dropped this time were so big that we could see them falling through the air, then demolishing whole blocks of buildings in one explosion.”
Gregg felt that he and his comrades were marching toward an inferno:
“Everything that could burn was alight — even the roads were burning rivers of bubbling and hissing tar. Huge fragments of material were flying through the air…We could also hear the agonized screams of victims as they were roasted alive. Coming towards us, a small group of survivors tried to cross what had once been a road, only to get stuck in molten tar.
“One by one, these unfortunates sank to the ground and died in a pyre of smoke and flame. Even the railway line was a mass of twisted steel. As more buildings collapsed, we were enveloped by a new, huge blast of heat, and the air became so hot it was painful to inhale. The city was now a mass of flame rising into the night.”
“There is no excuse for the men who ordered this terrible event to be carried out. From the moment they bombed Hamburg they collected plenty of evidence as to what would happen to the civilians who were to bear the brunt of the raids. By the time of the bombing of Dresden the formula for the mass murder of civilians had been bought to a fine art.
“The commanders had developed a technique: first of all fires are started; then canyons of devastated buildings are created to draw the air to feed the inferno thus creating the winds and the firestorm; finally come the blockbusters that demolish everything and trap the helpless victims inside shelters that turn into ovens from which there is no escape.”
What we are seeing here is that David Irving was closer to the truth than distractors like Richard J. Evans of Cambridge, the man who was paid thousands upon thousands of dollars by the Deborah Lipstadt team to destroy Irving. During the trial, Evans unequivocally wrote:
“Not one of [Irving’s] books, speeches or articles, not one paragraph, not one sentence in any of them, can be taken on trust as an accurate representation of its historical subject. All of them are completely worthless as history because Irving cannot be trusted anywhere, in any of them, to give a reliable account of what he is talking or writing about.”
This was and still is demonstrably false. The destruction of Dresden, if we are going to be historically and intellectually honest, was a Holocaust. And if the Holocaust establishment cannot admit that, then why are they screwing people up with their ideology?
-  “Into the inferno: Families boiled alive as they hid in water tanks and fleeing survivors trapped in molten tarmac… 75 years on, the most horrifically vivid account you’ll ever read of the Allied bombing of Dresden – by a British PoW who saw it all,” Daily Mail, February 18, 2020.
-  Ibid.
-  Victor Gregg, Dresden: A Survivor’s Story (New York: Bloomsbury, 2013), kindle edition.
Jonas E. Alexis has degrees in mathematics and philosophy. He studied education at the graduate level. His main interests include U.S. foreign policy, the history of the Israel/Palestine conflict, and the history of ideas. He is the author of the book, Kevin MacDonald’s Metaphysical Failure: A Philosophical, Historical, and Moral Critique of Evolutionary Psychology, Sociobiology, and Identity Politics. He teaches mathematics in South Korea.
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Thank you for remembering Dresden. As a german Citizen i dug deep in to the past. Dresden was at that time a refugee city with many people unaccounted for. the unofficial death toll is well above 100.000. a terrible crime.
Considering Dresden as non-military but cultural city. There were no military factories. However, it was a dire henocide. Nazi brought terrible demolitions and murders to USSR, but Soviet soldiers always tried to save civilians, gave them food and medicaid. The Statue of Soviet Soldier the liberator, with a little German girl in his hands in Treptoff Park is the evidence and not a propaganda. As for the Britain, traditionally they didn’t care about nations: India, China, isles, etc. They have robbed all world. Dresden was a warning, not only for Germany, but for the USSR too. To demonstrate air armada.
Actually, Dresden did have some industry that was vital to the German war effort as it was a centre of optics production, the largest Carl Zeiss plant was in Dresden and was destroyed in the bombing. The products produced there that were vital to the war effort were things like periscopes for submarines, sights for artillery and anti-tank guns, rangefinders, binoculars etc. The remains of the Zeiss works – the surviving machinery, tools, blueprints, along with surviving workers, were all carted off to Mother Russia by the Soviets and was setup in a new factory in Kiev where they put into production several Zeiss designs, which is why Russia produced millions of Kiev branded copies of the famous Zeiss Contax rangefinder camera, the range of superb Zeiss Sonnar lenses were also produced in huge numbers under the Jupiter brand. Dresden was also a major rail hub, one of the most important for supplying the German armies fighting in the East, destroying this transport nexus would have severe impact on the German’s ability to maintain supplies to their forces trying to hold back the Red Army. It is conjecture that the US & Britain wanted to demonstrate to the Soviets the power of their strategic bombing, but it is conjecture I suspect is based in truth and the west wanted to show Stalin what their heavy bombers could do.
Ian, thank you! Sharp info. I didn’t know about optics in Dresden. I thought there was nothing essential. Appreciate your comment.
Mr. Alexis, as a German I want to thank you very deeply for your article. All the best for you.
Morgenthau Plan > exterminate 10 million post war Germans > a million POWs each by Eisenhower (US), Montgomery (UK), and Tassigny (Fr) and 6 million by General Khukov in Russian sector. Mission accomplished.
Not true at all. The British did not kill their prisoners, neither did the Russians or the French. Eisenhower was responsible for the deaths of more than a million surrendered German soldiers in the Rhine camps – see Bacque’s work on this, but it was not part of any grand plan, just simple mistreatment and failure to provide necessary conditions – no different to many other POW camps in other wars, such as the infamous Andersonville of the US Civil War. The Russians returned the great majority of their POWs, although they kept many of them well into the 1950s as they were used as labour to rebuild the shattered country. Harsh treatment yes, mass murder, no. There were a lot of German deaths post 1945, but they were not POWs, they were civilians. Prior to WW2 there had been a large German minority population in Eastern Europe, largely concentrated into cities and large towns. When the war ended, these Eastern Germans found themselves in a very bad situation and most of them upped sticks and headed for the borders of the new Germany, lining the roads as refugees. Many of them never made it, killed by vengeful locals. Again, there was no grand plan at work, it was just the inevitable settling of scores within an overall climate of chaos and confusion. No-one has any idea how many died, probably several million. Some have claimed figures as high as 12-15 million dead German civilians in the aftermath of 1945 but such numbers are gross exaggerations based on bad scholarship and outright lies. Yes, the Eastern German population disappeared post-1945, but to suggest they all died is ludicrous. Many emigrated, many made it to the new Germany, the majority simply changed their family names and became Poles or Czechs of Hungarians or Ukrainians etc. There are no records to study, Central and Eastern Europe was a shattered, chaotic mess for a decade after 1945, there were displaced persons by the millions, it was all a giant mess and no-one will ever be able to put any sensible figures on the situation, which doesn’t stop many revisionists from trying.
Thank you for reporting this very real holacaust.
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