Daily Beast: “You say at the very end of the book that the president and Attorney General William Barr ousted the U.S. Attorney of New York and tried to install, effectively, the president’s golfing buddy as the new U.S.
Attorney there because the president, in your view, wanted to arrange for himself to be indicted while he’s still in office because that would give him the opportunity to pardon himself after he lost the election,” she said.
“Well, my theory is that if he loses, there’s still the time between the election and the time that the next president would take office,” Cohen elaborated. “And during that time, my suspicion is that he will resign as president, he will allow Mike Pence to take over, and he will then go ahead and have Mike Pence pardon him.”
“And it’s a very, let’s just say it’s a very Nixon-type of event and it was probably discussed between Roger Stone and President Trump at some point,” he continued. “That this is certainly one way to avoid any potential prison time.”
Maddow, meanwhile, observed that this would be somewhat similar to the “prospective pardon” President Gerald Ford gave Richard Nixon following Nixon’s resignation as president, which prevented Nixon from Watergate-related indictments after he left office.
In an earlier interview with NBC News, anchor Lester Holt asked Cohen what he would say to Trump if he could have another conversation with him, prompting the disbarred attorney to say he’d tell Trump to “resign now” and “let Mike Pence pardon you from any and all potential crimes.”