Real Firefighter Debunks Conspiracies, ‘Lie-shames’ Trumpster/Qanon Hoaxters

A firefighter with boots on the ground sets the record straight

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Facebook takes down Antifa wildfire rumors days after they start

[ Editor’s note: Is the Oregon wildfire season falling into a psyop? How hard is it to create doubt in the public’s mind for the advancement of political movements in an election year?

Arson has been a part of western wildfires for decades, as are campfires, downed power lines and nature’s lightning strikes.

Arson. Lightning strikes. Campfires. Power lines. The four horsemen of fires.

Arsonists have been running around since Prometheus shared a light, but now stakeholders have adopted a new narrative that serves their interests. What should a good skeptic think? Well for starters, good skeptics resist the pull of the tide.

This week, what is in the best interest of thousands of evacuees is for their fellow Americans to not make evacuations worse in real time by clogging the phone lines of first responders, police departments and sheriffs.

And, perhaps those who heighten the public’s fears are no better than Orson Welles, the guy who caused panic with his radio spoof, War of the Worlds and sent people out into the street, an early 20th century psyop where Welles claimed his innocence and naïveté and that he meant no harm. But two decades after the Twin Towers psyop, patterns of premeditation and duplicity can be discerned; and Welles’ denial starts to fit snugly into the category of calculated plausible deniability.

No good crisis should ever be wasted. And, do organized conspiracy promoters know that they are taking advantage of a situation? Of course. The manipulators are counting on a certain small percentage of success; end result, to destabilize order. To paint good and evil in a new way. Reduce it to black and white. The theme never ends, as long as it keeps working. Yet it’s strange how an arson attack on a navy ship in harbor is overlooked when it doesn’t fit a convenient narrative. All damped down and hushed up until someone in authority tells us what to think. ‘Nothing to see here; move along.’

The Psyop – Shoot an arrow and draw a new bullseye around where it lands – Move the bullseye to convenient coordinates. And, bring attention to inconclusive data points. Key parts of an Agenda.

Tens of thousands of people are evacuated each fire season, their boots and the trunk of their cars pursued by the flames of raging wildfires across twelve western states of the US. It tests the mental resilience of each and every evacuee, except for the toddlers and infants that are too young to understand. People stay strong for the benefit of those around them.

I know this from personal experience, having had the joy of being evacuated at 1 a.m. on the morning of May 10, 2000, driving slowly in a long line of cars on the last open road out of town.

Companion animals absorb stress from their evacuated caregivers, and when the people move back into their home (if it’s still there), sometimes their pet will show that they are stressed.

A neighbor’s youthful pet dropped dead on their bed a week after it was all over, and the newspaper wrote about it in their survivor series. Readers chimed in about their animals showing emotional strain. The companion animal is responding to the scent of fear and the expressions on people’s faces, perhaps combined with a drastic change in location and routine.

Our animals can be like a litmus test for our own stress level. When people are evacuated, their entire life that day or month is upended. There is much uncertainty. Wild rumors routinely get started and make the rounds, and although they can be titillating gossip, they do not help the situation one iota.

Godspeed the evacuees in rebuilding their communities and in some cases burying their lost ones… Editor4 ]

Facebook took down the posts Sept. 12, after they had already gone viral and caused headaches for law enforcement officials and 911 dispatchers.

First published 12 September 2020 on KGW8 News

Author: Mila Mimica

PORTLAND, Ore. — Facebook announced Saturday it is removing false claims that antifascists were responsible for setting fires in Oregon throughout the week amid a historic wildfire event that has burned a million acres and left hundreds of Oregonians without homes.

The rumors of “antifa” setting fires throughout the state began Sept. 8, and quickly spread beyond just social media. Law enforcement agencies — both local and national — have dispelled the rumors. Despite that, the false information continued spreading for days as firefighters battled more than 35 wildfires around the state.

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Reports: Arson suspected in Bonhomme Richard fire; sailor questioned

The July 12 fire that burned aboard the USS Bonhomme Richard for four days may have been an intentional act of arson, according to an unnamed defense official who spoke with the Associated Press and the New York Times.

Both the AP and the New York Times have reported, based on an unnamed official’s comments, that the fire that burned on the U.S. Navy’s amphibious assault ship is being investigated as an intentional act. Both outlets also reported a Navy sailor has been questioned by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

Bonhomme Richard possible arson fire

ABC10 also reported unnamed sources said investigators have served multiple search warrants at a sailor’s home and property. The sailor has not been detained and his name and rank have not been disclosed. No motive has been identified for the alleged arson.

In a public comment provided to various media sources, Navy spokesman Lt. Tim Pietrack said, “The Navy will not comment on an ongoing investigation to protect the integrity of the investigative process and all those involved. We have nothing to announce at this time.”

About 160 sailors and officers were on board the Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6) when the fires broke out. The fire on the ship reportedly spread quickly and at least two explosions were reported as the fire spread up the ship’s elevator shaft and exhaust stacks. At least 59 people, including 36 Navy personnel and 23 civilians, were injured as the fire spread aboard the ship and in subsequent efforts to control the blaze. Most of the injuries were minor, and many consisted of heat exhaustion and smoke inhalation.

Numerous local and federal firefighting resources worked the ship fire from the ground, firefighting boats and aerial water drops. The ship began to list to one side as a result of the weight of water settling in the ship after days of water drops over the ship.

The Bonhomme Richard, a Wasp-Class amphibious assault ship, was designed to act as a carrier for helicopters and landing craft, to support amphibious landing missions. According to Defense News, the Bonhomme Richard was being upgraded to accommodate F-35B Lightning II joint strike fighter jets, as part of the Navy’s “lightning carrier” concept.

The “lightning carrier” concept entails converting amphibious assault ships, like the Bonhomme Richard, into a light carrier that can fit up to 20 F-35Bs, which are the short take-off and vertical-landing (STOVL) variant of the F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter. The July fire happened as the ship was nearing the end of an estimated $250 million two-year upgrade process to convert the assault ship into such a “lightning carrier.”

Defense analysts told the AP that if the ship cannot be repaired, it could cost the Navy up to $4 billion to replace.

After the fires were extinguished, Rear Adm. Philip Sobeck, the commander of the Navy’s Expeditionary Strike Group 3, expressed optimism that the ship may still be salvaged. 

“The survivability of the ship is there — it’s survivable,” Sobeck said. “It’s in stable condition all the way through.”

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11 COMMENTS

  1. As an Australian I know full well the tragedy of bush fires. I was saddened to see the images from the bush fires in the US. It broke my heart. All those peoples homes burnt to the ground. Hundreds of homes, thousands maybe. Such a tragic event. BUT let me enlighten some of you. Whilst some bush fires are started by natural events such as lightning or powerlines coming down from high winds, some are still started by arsonists. In Australia over the years many people have been charged and prosecuted for deliberately starting bush fires, some were even firefighters themselves that would light them so they could fight them. It is very plausible, credible that some of these fires were deliberately lit.

  2. Let’s see if I understand you. You would like me to “believe” that the violent events of the summer of 2020 were accurately reported by the mainstream media? That would be doubtful.
    You haven’t been following VT’s articles on the deep state and its coordinated activities, apparently.
    I can’t fix your lack of awareness. No offense, but it seems to be self imposed, or, apparently you are in league with them. And, if you’ve already chosen your team and t-shirt color – there’s not much more to say.

    No idea what a red sea pedestrian is. But, I do notice that a certain type of blogger can’t help but fall back on name calling and attempted put downs. That’s all you got. … Desperation, it seems.

  3. Second man arrested for intentionally setting brush fire in Washington’s Pierce County, reported on KIRO Ch 7.
    A man armed with a machete is accused of setting six wild fires also for marketplace fire in Chico.
    A woman in Oregon pulls gun on ANTIFA POS with matches for attempting to start fire.
    ABC Ch 10 in California has reported that Placer County sheriffs has arrested a man for allegedly starting a fire in the woods near Tahoe City. The fire was started Aug.8 near the 1800 Block of North Lake Tahoe Blvd.
    With the help of witnesses, the police were led to the suspect, 37 year old kevin Carle of Olympic Valley. They also found in his possession four lighters. Carle also has three outstanding warrants for his arrest in Inyo County.

    • While firefighters have one of the most dangerous jobs on the planet, they don’t always know what’s going down. Their job is to control and eventually knock fires down. They are not involved in investigations. That is the job for others.
      Firefighters have a hard enough job as it is and the conditions present in California have made it all that much worse. With the winds shifting, the fires have slowed but due to temperature inversions , the smoke layer has not been allowed to dissipate as of last Saturday, preventing aerial tankers from flying,
      as the visibility has shrunk down to three miles.
      For more , better information check out Juan Brown’s Blancolirio Youtube Ch.

    • And I always ask, how is it, that the person was identified as Antifa ? This label is being over used for many months now, and usage needs to come with more than casual assertions.

  4. We know the rumor mill has reached a point of being damaging, when several police and fire chiefs have to speak out or even respond at all.
    But , it has gone beyond that as the people are clogging the phone lines at the departments. Last year during the PG&E fires caused by high winds and power lines the DEW rumors were robust and this year, they have increased in step with the severity of the fires.
    Authorities should reach out to churches and websites like Dutchsinse to tell them to rein it in. The group of posters are vastly uninformed and fearful.

  5. Hardly ! this mob of Bolsheviks “are a lil short” on/4; a charismatic marshmellow running into the woods w a Bic Lighter..

    the properties are old (circa 1950’s) sitting in 70-100 yrs of timber – dri strikes burn from the top down N a firestorm…

    • We could do without the asinine name calling, but if you can’t state your case more clearly, then I’ll have to delete your rambling post. Also, internet pidgin grammar is not used on this site. Only spammers use it.

      In canyon country or hill country, fires can burn vertically, like a chimney effect.

      Try again. I’m listening.

    • Fires can also skip over canyons and rise up on the opposite side as it did just before burning Paradise, Ca. That fire was the result of mechanical failure of PG&E power line in Pulga that spread quickly.
      This fire was not considered a crown fire. It was fed almost entirely from the huge amount of dry fuel that was left on the ground.
      Incidentally, 87 people died from that fire.

    • Hilarious! All Australians have more sense than you, so I doubt that you are there. Plus they understand the menace of wildfire.

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