What should anti-fascists and Nazis do?
Rostislav Ishchenko – 09.03.2022, Exclusive https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20220309/1033469118.html
Editor’s Note: We are trying to put some time into finding articles on Ukraine from those closer to the conflict, as they will often have viewpoints we have not seen mentioned in the West.
Ishchenko has an insight below, about how it is better to have living heroes than all dead ones, as then the pool of good political talent is not all in the cemeteries.
Another is his mentioning that the hard core Ukie nationalists counterintel people know who all the pro Moscow leaning people are, and have being knocking them off in the cities so they cannot work against the hard core Ukies if the Russians take cities and then want to cleanse them of subversive elements. They will not have informed local people to assist them.
This situation is going to get worse before it gets better. Even if the scales tip to the Russian incursion, regarding who is winning the attrition campaign, that could trigger mass killings in retribution, which of course will all be laid at the feet of the Russians in the West. We have yet to see Western media denouncing the Nationalist battalions.
Rostislav Ishchenko is President of the Center for Systematic Analysis and Forecasting, Ukraine. Born 29 December, 1965 ( 57 years old) in Kiev, USSR, Occupation: political scientist, diplomat, publicist, editor. Not much else online about him in English… Jim W. Dean ]
Published on VT March 10, 2022
What must happen is bound to happen someday. In 2014, I wrote to the remaining anti-fascists in Ukraine, urging them to leave the country as soon as possible.
I motivated this by the fact that sooner or later the Nazis would begin a complete sweep of the remnants of the pro-Russian activists.
There were not many options:
- Ukrainian provocations reach the point where Moscow can no longer ignore them and begins an anti-Nazi operation. Before the Russian tanks reach the big cities, the Nazis had to massacre the pro-Russian activists there (so that Russia would have no one to lean on).
- The U.S. is setting Ukraine on fire from within or smashing it into Russia to create as much trouble for Moscow as possible. For the above reason, before Russian tanks could reach the major cities, the Nazis would massacre the pro-Russian activists there.
- No one touches Ukraine. It is decaying on its own and beginning to collapse at an accelerated rate. As a result of internal contradictions (Nazi and oligarchic gangs fighting over the remainder of the fodder base), a civil war breaks out on the remaining Ukrainian territory, in which the opposing sides accuse each other of “working for the Kremlin” and, to solve their problems, slaughter not only assets, but all those even remotely suspected of sympathizing with Moscow. Before Russia has time to stop the outrage (and no one will care about that except Russia), the carnage will be at its peak, and its ferocity will be explained by “Russian aggression.
In 2014, it so happened that Russia did not have enough forces to conduct an effective operation in Ukraine, and the U.S. decided to try to create a stable anti-Russian regime in Kiev. The Americans realized their mistake by 2016, but Obama did not have time to change his strategy, and Trump was prevented from doing so by Democrats who accused him of “working for the Kremlin.
By the end of 2020, Russia was generally ready to resolve the Ukrainian crisis by force. The main military, economic, financial, and other problems had been resolved, and political and diplomatic means of influencing the situation had been exhausted in relations not only with Ukraine, but also with the West.
In the U.S., Trump had lost power, and there was nothing to stop Biden from throwing Ukraine off the balance sheet. But at the time, the Coronavirus Crisis was already raging, putting a brake on the global political crisis and giving the Kiev regime an extra year of life.
But no matter how tightly the rope is coiled, it will come to an end. Avoiding due to coincidence in 2014 accelerated development of events on one of the three options, by 2022 Ukraine, as a mockery of fate, has received all three in the bouquet.
The internal rot has reached the point of direct confrontation between the Zelensky team and the old oligarchic teams for the remainder of the fodder base. And both sides initially began to use unconstitutional methods to fight each other (repression “by decision of the National Security and Defense Council” and the threat of a coup d’etat in response).
Intra-Ukrainian contradictions threatened to explode the situation at any moment. The U.S. had neither the strength nor the desire to finance the stabilization of the situation in Ukraine; on the contrary, it was cheerfully preparing to throw Kyiv off the balance, while trying to hurt Russia as much as possible.
Moscow had accumulated enough power to launch an operation to pacify the Nazis before Washington gave the go-ahead for the already prepared bloody provocation that Russia had been accused of in advance, while ignoring the opinion of the West.
The consistent refusal of the U.S. to compromise and the inability of European partners to influence their “big brother” left Russia no chance to wait for the natural end of Ukrainian statehood.
The Ukrainian regime is doomed precisely because no one wants it alive. Neither the U.S. nor Europe wants to continue paying for the banquet of Nazi fringe elements, but they do not want to admit their failure either, trying to present it as only “Russian aggression” interrupted the “flowering” of the “young democracy”.
As I said above, Moscow has exhausted its diplomatic maneuvering options. The only (though not guaranteed) way to try to prevent the U.S. from starting a European (with the threat of escalating into a world war) war with Ukraine was a quick and effective military operation to liquidate the Ukrainian Nazi regime.
The liquidation of the Nazi regime and the elimination of the potential opportunity to threaten Russia’s security from Ukrainian territory, rather than the transformation of the Ukrainian territory martyred by the Nazis into a blooming garden, was the goal of the operation. About the rest, as Scarlett O’Hara said, we will think about tomorrow. After all, tomorrow will be another day.
What we should think about today is the Nazi terror against the remnants of Ukrainian anti-fascists (anti-fascists, because not all of them are Russophiles). In full accordance with historical predetermination, the inevitable liquidation of the Ukrainian Nazi (by the way, this is practically synonymous) state made the outburst of Nazi terror inevitable. Unfortunately, the people remaining in Ukraine were not prepared for this.
The brief fright of the spring of 2014 was replaced by the habit that if you don’t break the rules of the regime too much, nothing terrible will happen. It is only necessary not to utter certain forbidden formulas and not to perform certain forbidden actions, and it will be possible to live in moderate security, and some even continue political activity.
Unfortunately, I failed to convince them that the danger is still there, lurking just around the corner, ready to pop out at any moment with a serrated knife in one hand and a rope in the other. The anti-fascists who stayed in Ukraine (let me stress that not all of them were Russophiles) justified their decision by an utterly infantile argument: everyone should not leave, leaving the country to the Nazis. Someone has to fight for their country.
I can understand those politicians who wanted to be in legal opposition to the Nazi regime – it is their livelihood (and a very good one). I don’t feel sorry for them. They knew what they were doing.
But the political scientists, journalists, and social activists who have been deceived by these politicians and have decided that it makes sense to fight the Nazi regime from within, that it is not so carnivorous (you may see, in time it will settle down), that the election of a clown instead of a confectioner opens before them peaceful prospects of pacifying the regime, who do not understand that all their “freedoms” are nothing more than a game of a confident cat with a stupid mouse, they must all be saved. While our options are limited and the Nazi murderers have already begun to act.
Staged videos of Vasily Volga, Yuri Dudkin, and Dmitri Dzhangirov have already been released, and control over their social media accounts has been seized. We would love to be wrong, but if we see any of them alive, it will be a miracle. They are no longer needed by the scumbags who kidnapped them, who obviously don’t want to waste their time and energy feeding and guarding their captives.
Their task is to capture the next victim and make them condemn “Russian aggression” on camera. Those whom they have already captured and broken are not just spent material, but unwanted witnesses, capable of telling the world community a lot of interesting things about the Nazi methods of working with the opposition in Ukraine.
There is another problem. The SBU (and the cleansing is being carried out under its aegis) is not just destroying conditional pro-Russian activists (that is, those who are capable of building a normal new life in Ukraine in cooperation with Russia).
It clears a place for its cadres, selected from the Maidan activists not too tainted by cooperation with the Nazi regime, who can “wake up” and go to work in the newly created authorities in small and inconspicuous positions, allowing them to support the Bandera underground informatively and administratively, to sabotage the denazification work, if possible, removing the Bandera activists from the blow and framing pro-Russian or simply anti-Nazi activists.
The fewer more or less adequate citizens remain in Ukraine, the easier it will be for the pro-Banderer activists to penetrate the new government, preparing the revival of Banderaism.
That is why the SBU and its fighters are mopping up potential rivals without pity.
It is clear that only the arrival of the Russian army can finally remove the surviving anti-fascists from the attack. But the army cannot hasten the operation for the sake of a few dozen or even hundreds of individuals who were unlucky enough to find themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. So they must be able to wait for the army to arrive.
So I will repeat what I once said to the late Oles Buzina and wrote a couple of times in my articles. We don’t need dead heroes, we need living collaborators. We don’t need to be shy about hiding, we don’t need to be reflexive about having to not write anything on social media for a couple of weeks.
Not writing your opinion one more time will not change anything: the operation will be carried through to the end, and Russian society’s support of it will not diminish. Your audience will calmly wait for your return to public life and will be only happy to see you alive and well.
You can and should rush with a grenade under a tank when Moscow is behind you, and you are defending the last defensive line. But if our troops are finishing off the enemy in the streets of Berlin, saving the lives of future builders of the postwar world is much more important than speeding up the process of destruction of the last strongholds of the enemy. It is better to wait for the artillery to arrive than to be a pointless hero.
If you assume that they may come after you, then change your place of residence, hide for a while with reliable people, where no one will think to look for you. Hide in a safe place relatives, which you can be blackmailed – these things will stop at nothing.
If you do fall into their hands, say on camera what they want. No one will believe that you’ve changed your position anyway, especially after their cruel blunders with Volga, Dudkin, and Dzhangirov, whom they almost taped on one and the same couch. Don’t risk your relatives if they end up in the hands of the Nazis.
Even if you have been taken alone and are confident that you can endure all the torture and not break, it is better not to experiment. In fact, almost anyone can be broken, especially if the executioners are resourceful and have plenty of time.
And judging by how little attention they pay to the minimal plausibility of their videos, their main goal is not to use you for propaganda, but to break you and show the world broken, satisfying the animal instinct of the Maidan party, which began by bringing their political opponents to their knees and ended by brutally killing them.
Just do whatever you have to do to survive and try not to fall into the hands of these monsters.
But to the Nazis I would like to say: run away. Don’t think you can all get away in time. Only the ones in a hurry will make it. Hurry up, don’t waste time on pointless revenge. Your main chance to escape, whoever takes it first, may soon become an expensive museum rarity, because after the end of the completed operation to see a living Ukrainian Nazi will not be easier than to meet a Bigfoot. Remember that by wasting your precious time searching for, torturing and killing our comrades, you are putting your worthless lives at risk.
Under no circumstances stop in Western Ukraine – run further. Because of your stupidity and greed, you have made such a mess that you are bound to be found. You, trying to warm your hands on donations of people in support of Dzhangirov’s channel, have entered the data of a card of your accomplice Sergey Pritula. Do you think he won’t turn you all in?
Let’s say you can kill Pritula – it’s not a pity. You think no one saw the license plates and your faces when you organized the kidnappings. Do you think your colleagues from the neighboring units of the SBU don’t know what you were doing and won’t turn you in to testify to their loyalty to the new government? Think about it, if you can.
They are like you and you would sell your mother for a penny, trying to deserve every authority. Your last chance is a quick escape. Go to Europe and teach the Germans, the French, the Poles and the other Swedes to love Ukraine. They deserve it. Hurry up, in no time Europeans will realize that you are a plague worse than the Asian-African militants of the failed “caliphate” and close the border.
For those who are trying to hide behind human shields in besieged cities, I advise them to surrender. The army simply surrender, and the various “guards” and “territorial defenses” surrender collectively. That way you avoid the danger of being shot in the back by your own “brothers”, outraged that you were ahead of them in the process of saving their own carcasses.
Besides, the Nazis surrendering by battalions, regiments, brigades and entire “territorial defenses” have far from zero chances of living to denazification, and some of them even in 15-20 years to be released.
And the “cyborgs” at Donetsk airport did not listen to reasonable advice, did not surrender collectively, and then, in the course of the battle, it somehow did not work out individually – you know, it is difficult to distinguish who surrenders there and who still shoots. So raise your white flags and march in formation to the nearest position of Russian troops. You will live almost all.
I understand that some people will judge me for the content of this appeal to ours and not ours. But I repeat: we have no sad need for dead heroes today, and there are already dead heroes. It is better that more heroes remain alive, even if they cannot perform their heroic deeds because of this. Because good people should live as long as possible.
As for our enemies, the more readily they surrender and the faster they flee, the faster we will complete the operation and the fewer of our soldiers and our comrades who were fighting in the occupied territory will die. We don’t have any surplus men – the surplus ones are fleeing to the West.